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Geoff

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Sep 10, 2008, 8:55:07 AM9/10/08
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Looking for information to modify Codan 9323 HF Radio for use on Amateur
Bands

I need to know the following


1. How to get the radio to LSB, ( I have the LSB code for the radio, but for
whatever reason, I can only go to LSB in Freetune reciever mode or 27Mhz,
I cannot select to LSB
from the face pannel from a stored channel.

I have Codan XP Version
5.00, Options menu, I cannot change the program selection form USB.

2. How to get the radio to FREETUNE TX


thanks in advance

73's
Geoff
VK8FASP


Roj Blake

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Sep 10, 2008, 9:56:59 AM9/10/08
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Step one upgrade your license if you want to use it to T/X

Geoff

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Sep 10, 2008, 10:36:03 AM9/10/08
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Roj,

10/10 Points for a quick assumption, but the 9323 has a switchable PA , 100W
or 10W, ...No different than my kenwood, because I can limit that to10 watts
as well,

But anyway, my foundation lic is almost history, caus I have just finished
the RadioElectronicSchool standard MM Cource, & have just booked my Standard
exam. with the local examinor, so chances are that I will have my AOCP(s)
before I get the 9323 functioning 100% anyway.

At the moment I can use it on 15 Meters ( At 10 Watts :) ), but I can't get
it to go to LSB so that I can use it on 40M or 80M

Geoff

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Roj Blake

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Sep 10, 2008, 11:25:13 AM9/10/08
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Geoff wrote:
> Roj,
>
> 10/10 Points for a quick assumption, but the 9323 has a switchable PA , 100W
> or 10W, ...No different than my kenwood, because I can limit that to10 watts
> as well,
>
> But anyway, my foundation lic is almost history, caus I have just finished
> the RadioElectronicSchool standard MM Cource, & have just booked my Standard
> exam. with the local examinor, so chances are that I will have my AOCP(s)
> before I get the 9323 functioning 100% anyway.
>
> At the moment I can use it on 15 Meters ( At 10 Watts :) ), but I can't get
> it to go to LSB so that I can use it on 40M or 80M
>
> Geoff

Good luck with the course it has a high pass rate.

The power wasn't my point F calls must use commercial
amateur transmitters, modified flying Dr Radios etc can't
be used.

atec77

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Sep 10, 2008, 5:30:39 PM9/10/08
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Perhaps you might remove you foot from mouth ?
google the model

vk3ebn

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Sep 10, 2008, 6:37:24 PM9/10/08
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"atec77" <atec77...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Roj Blake wrote:

Geoff wrote:

> >> Looking for information to modify Codan 9323 HF Radio for use on
Amateur
> >> Bands
> >> I need to know the following
> >>
> >> 1. How to get the radio to LSB, ( I have the LSB code for the radio,
> >> but for whatever reason, I can only go to LSB in Freetune reciever mode
or 27Mhz,
> >> I cannot select to LSB from the face pannel from a stored channel.
> >> I have Codan XP Version 5.00, Options menu, I cannot change the program

selection .
> >> from USB.


> >>
> >> 2. How to get the radio to FREETUNE TX
> >>
> >> thanks in advance
> >>
> >> 73's
> >> Geoff
> >> VK8FASP

> > Step one upgrade your license if you want to use it to T/X

> Perhaps you might remove you foot from mouth ?
> google the model

http://ozradio.wireless.org.au/9323.htm

And?

Laurie


no...@nospam.com

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Sep 11, 2008, 3:18:59 AM9/11/08
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:25:07 +0930, "Geoff" <samt...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Join the group and post your question here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/codan_outback_radio/

Roj Blake

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Sep 11, 2008, 5:11:25 AM9/11/08
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atec77 wrote:
>
>>> I need to know the following
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. How to get the radio to LSB, ( I have the LSB code for the radio,
>>> but for
>>> whatever reason, I can only go to LSB in Freetune reciever mode or
>>> 27Mhz,
>>> I cannot select
>>> to LSB
>>> from the face pannel from a stored channel.
>>>
>>> I have Codan XP
>>> Version
>>> 5.00, Options menu, I cannot change the program selection form USB.
>>>
>>> 2. How to get the radio to FREETUNE TX
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks in advance
>>>
>>> 73's
>>> Geoff
>>> VK8FASP
>>
>>
>> Step one upgrade your license if you want to use it to T/X
>>
> Perhaps you might remove you foot from mouth ?
> google the model

Perhaps you should remove yours.
Its not legal for an F call.

atec77

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Sep 11, 2008, 5:45:37 AM9/11/08
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actually it is into a dummy ( you're familiar with the term) and under
supervision , I still think you fsked up with the conclusion..

Roj Blake

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Sep 11, 2008, 5:48:13 AM9/11/08
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atec77 wrote:


keep digging

VK4TI

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Sep 11, 2008, 6:17:28 AM9/11/08
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I thought the requirement was for commercial equipment - would not a
CODAN fall into this category ? .. can you please enlighten me how the
CODAN is not a peice of commercial equipment - especially with the HAM
BANDS..
VK4TI

atec77

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Sep 11, 2008, 6:57:17 AM9/11/08
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if thats all you have girlie after making a total dick of your self my
work is done

Geoff

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Sep 11, 2008, 7:52:49 AM9/11/08
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Thanks guys for all the such usefull pointers , You guys must be so proud
to be Amateurs, !!


I didn't ask for a debate of what an F call can or can't do, as I posted
earlier.... I have allready applied for my AOCP(S) exam, which I will be
sitting within the next few weeks, & I'm quite happy if need be to wait
until my S Call is issued before anyone in the know tells how.


But just to clarify all the MUD.....

1. I reconize that as a F call can only use Un-Modified Commercial Gear:
and the Codan 9323 does meet this criteria .(See point 4)

2. The PA is switchable between 10 & 100W, so, yes it can be programmed to
use any of the HF amateur bands (at 10W for an F Call)

3. As far as the Codan outback group on yahoo is concerned, the ones that
are in the know are trying to be Super Secret Squirrils & are holding their
cards close to their chest. ( yes I am a member ), & due to lack of help, I
am looking a solution from hopefully a more technical versed group. :((

4. LSB, Amateur, & freetune options do not require a screwdriver, nor a
soldering iron, & therefore are not modifications in their own rite,
these are built in features of the factory radio that are awoken by
entering the password from the Menu42.

But really guys, just about all F Calls that operate on HF are using 100ish
watt transcievers but obversly set at a much lower power setting, like....
Hmm 10W !

5. Havn't quite figured this one out yet, the Codan service dept admit
there is a freetune mode for the 9323, but won't release it ??.... Even for
Amateur use,??
BUT YET, there prepared to sell me a new NGT, with the freetune mode
activated.,

The margin they make when selling a new NGT must be huge as compared making
a pittence in releasing the option for Amateur users.

Spend $4,000 ish & buy a Codan ngt with freetune in the amateur bands
Spend about $2,000.00 or less & buy an Amateur transciever
Spend about $1,000.00 or less & buy a Codan 8528 change the eeprom ( freely
availableon the net, & I have the data file) and you have freetune in the
amateur bands

But if you own a 9323.... Whooooooo, Sorry mate !!!!.... Come off the
grass Codan.


VK4TI

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Sep 11, 2008, 5:28:05 PM9/11/08
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Geoff

good luck on your future studies...don't bother about the lions behind
the keyboard you will find them on air and for that matter at the Footy,
in the pub and any where else you find people..

Trent VK4TI

PS I still would like to see the regs that say the CODAN cant be used -
my understanding is that the equipment cant be home brew EOS..maybe I'm
reading it wrong..

unknown

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Sep 11, 2008, 8:31:11 PM9/11/08
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"Geoff" <samt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Geoff, the Codan 9323 is not amateur gear. It's a professional radio
designed for the land mobile service.
Conditions for that service do NOT include either "freetune" nor do they
include LSB except on rx only on some channels.
Despite amateur gear being "freetune" etc, the regulations for the land
mobile service still stand, and for obvious reasons.

Don't blame the Codan group for not being entirely co operative . That group
includes representatives of Codan, and the ACMA (or whatever they are these
days). Along with reps from a whole host of other organizations and
agencies.
They are not some hacker group who are in the business of pirating software
etc, and I might remind you that many members of this group are also radio
amateurs.

To suggest that this group is more "technical versed " shows a complete lack
of understanding of the members of both groups, and indeed the politics and
limitations of them. For example, how much more technical can you get than
electronics engineers ?

The 9323 was never released with an amateur option, the 9360 export version
was. There was a developers code generator but that never left the factory
AFAIK. Yes there is a work around but that involves replacing components and
expert reprogramming, hardly a quick or inexpensive fix. It is my
understanding that this is available commercially. Yes it's not cheap.

As for these options being available for other models in the Codan range, I
can assure you that they were never released in Australia unless as an
"amateur" option. This does not mean that it doesn't exist, simply that it
shouldn't. For example option E for the 8528 enables freetune, but did not
fall into the hands of most until relatively recently, and the option is
still not officially sanctioned by either Codan nor the Codan group. The 28
did have an amateur version as an "add on", but was restricted to the pre
WARC amateur bands.

I have occasionally seen the havoc caused by such radios in irresponsible
hands, on emergency networks, and it isn't a pretty picture. You could argue
that as a licensed amateur that you would never do that. But what happens
when you dispose of your radio? What happens when you disseminate the
software, eproms or modification details to every Tom, Dick and Harry?
Of course amateur gear is also capable of mis use. But such mis use is rare,
and sanctions are sometimes quite serious, not the least is losing your
license. On the whole, the amateur service is often quite tolerant of
erratic behaviour, and slow to officially complain.

Commercial users are far less tolerant of such behaviour, I can assure you.

In short, if you buy commercial radios then you can expect to accept any
shortcomings of those radios if you try to use them in another service.


Steve

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Sep 12, 2008, 2:02:30 AM9/12/08
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Hi Geoff,

There appear to be some friendly people in this group!

A quick Google for the ACMA licensing conditions for licensing
foundation licence shows the following:

"28 Transmitting equipment restrictions

The licensee must not operate an amateur foundation station using a
transmitter that has not been manufactured commercially."

Pretty straightforward, I would have thought. Nothing about it being
amateur kit or modifications so you appear to be on safe ground.

As for your question, I understand you have to have the LU option
selected for each of the channels in which you want to use LSB.

I don't think there is a free tune transmit mode, it's receive only.

Good luck with the exam.

73 de VK6ABZ

no...@nospam.com

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Sep 13, 2008, 3:31:49 AM9/13/08
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:22:49 +0930, "Geoff" <samt...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
<snip>


>>>
>> Join the group and post your question here:
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/codan_outback_radio/
>
>
>Thanks guys for all the such usefull pointers , You guys must be so proud
>to be Amateurs, !!
>
>

<snip>

The intent of my post was to send you to where many do know the Codan
gear inside and out, and would be more likely to assist than some
here. If I came across as abrupt - sorry - that wasn't my intention.

The 9323 has the known issue of not being able to select LSB when
programming a channel via the software as you say. There may be a hack
for the eprom, I don't know. My unit has one of the freetune eproms
available on ebay, and it does allow toggling through USB>LSB>AM>usb
etc. on any memory channel via the front panel. Yes, you can only
store a freq. in USB or AM, but once selected you can change the
sideband via the front panel. If you can't as you say, there is a
problem somewhere.

Note when I say "store a freq." I mean via the XP software, I don't
know what happens if you store one via the front panel/keypad, because
I've never tried.

Do an ebay seller search for "unkerdunk". He programs eproms for both
the 8528 & 9323.

ellio...@gmail.com

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Oct 1, 2013, 1:49:51 AM10/1/13
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Sounds like you need some software option enabled - keys to enable them is only available from CODAN unless someone has figured out the algorithms for each option.

What CODAN seem to offer for ham use in AUS is an option to permit you to write a tx frequency into a memory channel not a GTX option such as the non military personnel use radio's they sold by the hundred's to the likes of NATO for supply and admin type vehicles .... (I am saying they have the code and it takes less than a minute with your esn number to pop out the code to enable the option.)

On the plus side The receiver can be tuned across whatever frequency you like.

Cannot recall if LSB mode was a software option or not... the memory fades ....

Problem is some naughty folks with full calls a few years ago now used stuff out of band and when they had to pay the price for being caught they blamed the manufacturer. Net result is unless you can get a hold of an "export model" not much chance of success unless a few folks relax their policies about the place.

1994...@gmail.com

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