Re: KRudd wants seat on UN Security Council
Don H
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http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-wants-seat-on-un-security-council/20080330-22es.html
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> Australia will seek to become a temporary member of the United Nations
> Security Council, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says.
>
> Mr Rudd made the bid in a meeting with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-
> Moon in New York on Saturday.
>
> Australia will seek election for the 2013-14 term of the council, the
> UN arm charged with maintaining peace and security around the world.
>
> Mr Rudd said it had been more than 30 years since Australia had held
> the position and "it was a long time between drinks".
>
> Australia should be on the council because membership was necessary to
> help a country be fully engaged in the UN, he said.
>
> "Australia is a strong supporter of the United Nations and while there
> are people who criticise the UN ... I believe it's important to see
> the glass as half-full rather than half-empty," he told reporters.
>
> The council has five permanent members - China, France, the Russian
> Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States - and 10 non-
> permanent members.
>
> Australia was last a member in 1985-86.
>
> New Zealand, which was last a member in the early 90s, has already
> signalled its intention to run for the 2015-16 term.
>
> But that would not necessarily hurt Australia's chances of winning a
> seat in 2013-14, Mr Rudd said.
>
> There was no guarantee of success and there would always be a debate
> about when it was the best time to run, he said.
>
> "My view is pretty simple - you've got to be in it to win it, and have
> a go," he said.
>
> "We're about to have a go. I think 30 years is a fair enough old wait
> between drinks and I think it's time we actually got cracking."
>
> It was in Australia's interest to be on the council and have a say in
> key UN decisions, he said.
>
> "As you would recall, whether it was the debate over the Iraq war,
> whether it's the consideration of particular actions against the
> government of Iran, whether it's other matters, this is the critical
> decision-making body of the United Nations," Mr Rudd said.
>
> "Therefore, if you wish to be an effective member of the United
> Nations organisation, it means that you must express a regular
> interest in being a member of the Security Council.
>
> "All security policy matters of multilateral significance are before
> the council from time to time. Australia has an interest, therefore,
> in being there."
>
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>
> Why doesn't KRudd ask for 1,000 seats? Then he can send over everyone
> from the gabfest.
# Australia will only have a chance at membership if it is not seen as a
mere obedient lackey of the United States.
An independent view might be welcomed, but not otherwise. This need not
be contrary to any Aust-US Alliance necessarily, but the alliance might be
viewed with suspicion and cripple any actual election.
It was the ALP's own Dr. Herbert V. Evatt who was a founding father of
the UN, helping draft many of its basic legal aspects; so that is a plus.
Australia wants more "foreign investment" - to what benefit for
Australia? We are already largely run by Transnational corporations, and
foreign money is only too happy to snap up existing enterprises.
Australia, the world's quarry, has little to boast about in its own
right - except possibly Olympic medals, and some tourism prospects. Even
our farming is on a slide, due to drought and climate change.
Manufacturing? How much of that has been exported to low-wage nations, so
our import bill balloons accordingly?
Still, it is good that an effort is being made to take a stand, and
reassess the whole situation of what Australia is, and what it might have to
offer.
John Phillips
wrote:
> It was the ALP's own Dr. Herbert V. Evatt who was a founding
> father of the UN, helping draft many of its basic legal aspects; so
> that is a plus.
Ah yes "Doc" Evatt. Almost as incompetent as Shitlam, Hawke, Keating,
amd Krudd. That puts him in the top league of losers.
Rod Speed
> Australia will only have a chance at membership if it is
> not seen as a mere obedient lackey of the United States.
Wrong. Have fun explaining how come we got one previously.
> An independent view might be welcomed, but not otherwise.
Wrong. Have fun explaining how come we got one previously.
> This need not be contrary to any Aust-US Alliance necessarily, but the
> alliance might be viewed with suspicion and cripple any actual election.
Wrong. Have fun explaining how come we got one previously.
> It was the ALP's own Dr. Herbert V. Evatt who was a founding father of the UN,
Pigs arse he was.
> helping draft many of its basic legal aspects; so that is a plus.
Not relevant to what is being discussed.
> Australia wants more "foreign investment" - to what benefit for Australia?
Oh, just a few tiny details like the lowest unemployment rate in 35+ years etc.
> We are already largely run by Transnational corporations,
Pigs arse we are.
> and foreign money is only too happy to snap up existing enterprises.
There's plenty that aint anything like that.
> Australia, the world's quarry,
And that provides a lot of our employment and economic benefits.
We are the ONLY modern first world country with a positive
balance of trade in OUR favour with Japan and China, due to that.
You're too stupid to care ? Your problem.
> has little to boast about in its own right - except possibly
> Olympic medals, and some tourism prospects.
Wrong, as always.
We are the ONLY modern first world country with a positive
balance of trade in OUR favour with Japan and China.
> Even our farming is on a slide, due to drought
And droughts dont last forever, stupid.
> and climate change.
Easy to claim thats having any effect on our agriculture. Hell of a lot harder to
actually substantiate that claim. And we can obviously change the way we do
agriculture if it ever does anyway. Just like we have been doing for centurys now.
> Manufacturing?
Manufacturing is only a tiny part of any modern first world economy.
> How much of that has been exported to low-wage
> nations, so our import bill balloons accordingly?
Who cares ? That result is completely inevitable given that we will
never be a low wage country and only a fool would want us to be.
> Still, it is good that an effort is being made to take a stand,
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
> and reassess the whole situation of what Australia is,
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
> and what it might have to offer.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
frilly.lizzy
> http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-wants-seat-on-un-security-council/2008033...
Who'll be operating the rudder of our country if Rudd is sitting at
the UN Security Council?
> Mr Rudd made the bid in a meeting with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-
> Moon in New York on Saturday.
>
>
> Why doesn't KRudd ask for 1,000 seats? Then he can send over everyone
> from the gabfest.
Liz
Sir John Howard
> On Mar 30, 11:00�pm, Sir John Howard <sirjhow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-wants-seat-on-un-security-council/2008033...
>
> Who'll be operating the rudder of our country if Rudd is sitting at
> the UN Security Council?
That's what I was wondering too.
Rod Speed
>> Sir John Howard <sirjhow...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-wants-seat-on-un-security-council/2008033...
>> Who'll be operating the rudder of our country
>> if Rudd is sitting at the UN Security Council?
> That's what I was wondering too.
More fool you. No PM 'sits at' that, fuckwit.
Sir John Howard
Is that right, Rod? So why did KRudd say he wanted a seat? Maybe he
was just tried from standing.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Sir John Howard <sirjh...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> frilly.lizzy wrote
>>>> Sir John Howard <sirjhow...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-wants-seat-on-un-security-council/2008033...
>>>> Who'll be operating the rudder of our country
>>>> if Rudd is sitting at the UN Security Council?
>>> That's what I was wondering too.
>> More fool you. No PM 'sits at' that, fuckwit.
> Is that right, Rod?
Yep.
> So why did KRudd say he wanted a seat?
Even you cant actually be THAT stupid.
> Maybe he was just tried from standing.
No maybe about you being a terminal wog fuckwit.
frilly.lizzy
No wonder! How many years had Kevin stood (with trolley of groceries)
at checkouts in supermarkets?
Who else had shopped because his missus had been chief breadwinner?
Liz
Sir John Howard
I bet Terese makes him do it.
> Who else had shopped because his missus had been chief breadwinner?
Not me!
John Phillips
wrote:
> # Australia will only have a chance at membership if it is not seen
> as a mere obedient lackey of the United States.
Well, based on yesterday's news reports, looks like Krudd is a bigger
lick spittle of the USA than anyone before him.
KRudd = Bush's Poodle!
John Phillips
<sirjh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Who'll be operating the rudder of our country if Rudd is sitting at
> > the UN Security Council?
>
> That's what I was wondering too.
No need to wonder!
Because it ain't Krudd now anyway. He hasn't got a clue what to do;
needs hundreds of committees and gab fests to tell him.
Horry
> "Sir John Howard" <sirjh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-wants-seat-on-un-security-council/20080330-22es.html
>>
>> Australia will seek to become a temporary member of the United Nations
>> Security Council, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says.
<snip>
>> Mr Rudd said it had been more than 30 years since Australia had held
>> the position and "it was a long time between drinks".
<snip>
>> "I believe it's important to see
>> the glass as half-full rather than half-empty," he told reporters.
<snip>
>> "My view is pretty simple - you've got to be in it to win it, and have
>> a go," he said.
<snip>
>> "I think it's time we actually got cracking."
Rudd and his cliches are quickly becoming embarrassing.