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Bob Hawke

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Watchout Arselifters the Israeli Heron is coming to GET YOU compliments Aus.
Army.

Heron Hustles After Predator

January 13, 2010:

The Brazilian Federal Police are buying 14 Israeli Heron UAVs for border
patrol, monitoring the interior for illegal mining and logging, and to keep
an eye on increasingly aggressive drug gangs. Three Herons will arrive this
year, and the rest next year.

Heron has become a popular alternative to the American Predator UAV. Last
year Australian troops in Afghanistan have begun using Israeli Heron UAVs.
Canada received its first Herons in 2008. The most popular model of the
Heron is very similar to the 1.1 ton U.S. Predator. This Heron has a 500
pound payload capacity and can stay in the air for more than 24 hours per
sortie. While Australia and Brazil are buying its Herons, Canada is leasing
them.

Canada has also ordered half a dozen Israeli Heron TP UAVs. Equipped with a
powerful (1,200 horsepower) turbo prop engine, the 4.6 ton aircraft can
operate at 45,000 feet. That is, above commercial air traffic, and all the
air-traffic-control regulations that discourage, and often forbid, UAV use
at the same altitude as commercial aircraft. The Heron TP has a one ton
payload, enabling it to carry sensors that can give a detailed view of
what's on the ground, even from that high up. The endurance of 36 hours
makes the Heron TP a competitor for the U.S. MQ-9 Reaper (or Predator B),
which is the same size as Heron.

The Heron line of UAVs has been around longer than the Predators, and have a
comparable track record. India and European nations are already buying
various models of the Heron. The Heron TP is also suitable for maritime
patrol, and is a low cost competitor to the Global Hawk, which has far more
range than most nations need for their naval reconnaissance aircraft.

Heron is actually getting a lot of sales because the Predator manufacturer
cannot keep up with order. Israeli UAVs have a good reputation, although
many nations avoid buying Israeli weapons because of the potential backlash
from Arab oil suppliers. In Brazil, some leftist politicians are trying to
halt the Brazilian purchase, as a way to show support for Palestinian
terrorists and anti-Semites.


lorad

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On Jan 13, 9:24 pm, "Bob Hawke" <bobha...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Watchout Arselifters the Israeli Heron is coming to GET YOU compliments Aus.
> Army.
>
> Heron Hustles After Predator
>
> January 13, 2010:
>
> The Brazilian Federal Police are buying 14 Israeli Heron UAVs for border
> patrol, monitoring the interior for illegal mining and logging, and to keep
> an eye on increasingly aggressive drug gangs. Three Herons will arrive this
> year, and the rest next year.

It might be difficult to market those knock-offs.. with the UKs
embargo on Israelii stuff and all.

PS: How old are you? 14?

Bob Hawke

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Who gives a fuck what the UK does. If they stop pandering to so called
minorities, they may become a real nation again, instead of an insignificant
over-run, by foreigners, backwater.


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Topaz

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The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?

The Culture War:

Israel Line - Friday, June 10, 2005

Thousands Participate in Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv.

Thousands of people took to the streets of Tel Aviv this
afternoon to participate in the city's annual gay pride parade,
HA'ARETZ reported. The parade set out from Rabin Square and was to end
in Yarkon Park, where musical performances were planned.

MKs Yosef Lapid (Shinui), Eitan Cabel (Labor) and Zehava Gal-On
(Yahad), as well as Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai, were set to speak at
the event.

The chairman of the national Association of Gay Men, Lesbians,
Bisexuals and Transgender in Israel, Mike Hamel, said today the parade
was organized with the "close cooperation" of the Tel Aviv
municipality. "It's great to see it, and great that it's one of the
few places in the world that has the support of a municipal body, a
government body," he said.

Hamel said the event is called a "pride parade," because it has
to do with "being proud of the way we are and the demand to accept
every person as a person, as he is, and not trying to change him."

Full story:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/586950.html

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http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1122-03.htm
Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct
NEW YORK - November 22 -
Iran's execution of two men last week for homosexual conduct
highlights a
pattern of persecution of gay men that stands in stark violation of
the rights
to life and privacy, Human Rights Watch said today. On Sunday,
November 13, the semi-official Tehran daily Kayhan reported that the
Iranian
government publicly hung two men, Mokhtar N. (24 years old) and Ali A.
(25 years old), in the Shahid Bahonar Square of the northern town of
Gorgan. The government reportedly executed the two men for the crime
of "lavat." Iran's shari'a-based penal code defines lavat as
penetrative and non-penetrative sexual acts between men. Iranian law
punishes all penetrative sexual acts between adult men with the death
penalty.
Non-penetrative sexual acts between men are punished with lashes until
the fourth offense, when they are punished with death�

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NEA, Gay Militants: Joined At The Hip
Lee Duigon

If a private citizen tells his neighbor's children that they ought to
try gay sex, he might wind up in a correctional facility. If he talks
that way to your 13-year-old son, you'll want him put away-pronto.

But when this very same behavior, toward the same children, is
displayed by adults who belong to America's biggest teachers' union,
most parents simply let them do it. In fact, they pay them to.

The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality. It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.

Lean this equation, America:

Public schools=The homosexual agenda

If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."

The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."

The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")

Ms. Isaacson, according to the grass-roots Article 8 Alliance, these
days makes it a full-time job lobbying state legislators to keep them
from jumping ship on "gay marriage" and voting for the Bill of Address
which would remove the outlaw Supreme Judicial Court judges who
imposed this oxymoron on the people of Massachusetts. Supported by
taxpayers' money, she makes daily, face-to-face visits to individual
lawmakers. Nice work if you can get it.

Too bad you couldn't make it to the gym teachers' state convention in
New Jersey, in February. It wasn't about volleyball. For public school
gym teachers, Job One--according to the convention's floor displays,
handouts, posters, and workshop topics (all of which I saw
personally)--is getting the kids comfy with homosexuality. To this
end, they handed out a "resource guide"--handsomely produced, slick,
paid for largely by Fleet Bank
Inc.--intended for distribution in all the public schools. (For more
information, see my article, "Now It's the Gym Teachers," in the
February archive of the Chalcedon website, chalcedon.edu.)

You would have seen even more of the same at "Twenty Years of Great
Sex (Ed)" last year, a national conference of "sex educators" hosted
by Rutgers, New Jersey's taxpayer-funded state university. Again,
there was no effort to hide the educators' whole-hearted penchant for
homosexuality...

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org

http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

dolf

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Jan 14, 2010, 8:18:59 PM1/14/10
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And I'm not a democrat who thinks their civil and state autonomic right
is sub-ordinate to Jesus on a stick or masked religious asceticism as
fanaticism.


On 15/01/10 12:07 PM, Topaz wrote:
>
> The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
>
> The Culture War:
>
> Israel Line - Friday, June 10, 2005
>
> Thousands Participate in Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv.
>

[snipped]

Spartan613

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Jan 15, 2010, 12:59:28 AM1/15/10
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"Bob Hawke" <bobh...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Watchout Arselifters the Israeli Heron is coming to GET YOU compliments
> Aus. Army.

Actually, it's courtesy of the RAAF.

--
"There's no shortcut to anywhere worth going".

Rich...@hotmail.com

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Jan 15, 2010, 5:06:35 AM1/15/10
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Will they bomb posters who don;t know how to trim lists of newsgroups?

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:59:28 GMT, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com>
wrote:

Dave Heil

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Jan 15, 2010, 10:57:05 AM1/15/10
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Topaz wrote:
> The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?

I think they'd be surprised that Muslim men didn't just have their
homosexual trysts in private asw they've traditionally done.

Topaz

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Jan 15, 2010, 4:52:18 PM1/15/10
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:18:59 GMT, dolf <dolf...@grapple.id.au> wrote:

>And I'm not a democrat who thinks their civil and state autonomic right
>is sub-ordinate to Jesus on a stick or masked religious asceticism as
>fanaticism.
>

Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.

Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.

Topaz

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Jan 15, 2010, 7:37:24 PM1/15/10
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Jewish Leaders in the Homosexual Movement

Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist
organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis

Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer
Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for
the Gay & LesbianAlliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-
founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against
Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the
largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer
political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San
Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay
activist.

Moises Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now
known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of
the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional
organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the
US. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning
discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning
playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees
group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee
of GLAAD.

Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist
journalist, writer."

Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and
Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate
[1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly
comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."

Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association
[NLGJA] national board member.

Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn
the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an
illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany;
founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific
Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi
Germany.

Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business
Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors.
Mitchell Gold -- HRC Board
Marty Lieberman -- HRC Board
Andy Linsky -- HRC Board
Dana Perlman -- HRC Board
Abby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board
Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board
Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC
Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator
Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West
Sally Green -- HRC Associate Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] -- President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of
Washington, DC.

Barney Frank -- member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-
discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel -- executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task
Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural
Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and
Education Fund -- and -- the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn -- Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance
Against Defamation [GLAAD]
Nancy Alpert [?] -- Treasurer, GLAAD
Judy Gluckstern -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.
Stephen M. Jacoby -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.
Matt Riklin -- Board, GLAAD
Carol Rosenfeld -- Board, GLAAD.
William Weinberger -- Board, GLAAD
Tanya Wexler -- Board, GLAAD.
David Huebner -- GLAAD Counsel.

Richard Goldstein -- Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler -- Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of
Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin -- Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill -- Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein -- Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin -- lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen -- a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund;
former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst -- long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs:
Marty Seldman, president

"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF].
Board co-chairs: ..... Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M
Dave Fleischer -- Director of Training [political training], NGLTF.
Craig Hoffman -- Board of Directors, NGLTF.
Beth Zemsky -- Board, NGLTF.
Marsha C. Botzer -- Treasurer, NGLTF.
Jeff Levi -- first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became
NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights
Project

Martin Duberman -- author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian
and Gay Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk
Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer
studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist
[one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian
rights organization].

Susan Spielman -- principal/head of Common Ground, an education/
consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation
education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations,
helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author
of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.

Gertrude Stein -- wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in
1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff -- founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman -- founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of
PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from
1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial
Network; president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin -- New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick -- GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler -- American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the
first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who
was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington
and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura"
campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and
operates a lesbian travel-tour company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist,
molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the
use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive
director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa
Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] -- co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons -- American professor, journalist, and founder of the
National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams -- American physician, HIV expert, medical
marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) -- [Canadian]; archivist of the International
Jewish GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official;
appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal
Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and
gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the
Reserves
when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian,
and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its
first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic
partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out
Day [October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to
serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS
Policy [ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice
President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that
launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the
Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
[GLAAD].

Surina Kahn -- American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler -- founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action
Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in
New England.

Kathy Levinson -- American investor and philanthropist; serves on the
board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light -- actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner -- gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the
Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of
wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics;
president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage -- American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What
Happened
After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards
Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in
America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager
of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay &
Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] -- founder and coordinator of the
Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York
chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] -- American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian
cable TV network.

Rex Wockner -- longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news
for the gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher -- became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine
[1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender
activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of
Arc to RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American
Man Boy Love Association

dolf

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And the point of the posted list is what exactly?

On 16/01/10 11:37 AM, Topaz wrote:
>
> Jewish Leaders in the Homosexual Movement
>
> Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist
> organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis
>

[snip]

Topaz

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The point is that the subject line is 180 degrees off.

cornholio

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On Jan 16, 9:33 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Who wants to bet that Topaz is a cross-dresser who's in
to S&M and plays the bitch?

Spartan613

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BTW, they aren't armed.

PM

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Rich...@hotmail.com

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And still the Ockers don't know how to trim posts so they only go to
relevant usenet groups . . .

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