The USAF on the Real Reason for Terrorism : Why the US is Target One
Faust
"The Real Reason for Terrorism
Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF
"Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth about why we
are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the target because we
stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the world.
The truth is very different.
We are the target of terrorists because we stand for dictatorship, bondage, and
human exploitation in the world. We are the target of terrorists because we
are hated.
And we are hated because our government has done hateful things.
In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and
replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell out
their own people to American multinational corporations?
We did it in Iran when we deposed Mossadegh because he wanted to
nationalize the oil industry. We replaced him with the Shah, and trained,
armed, and paid his hated Savak national guard, which enslaved and
brutalized the people of Iran. All to protect the financial interests of our
oil companies. Is it any wonder there are people in Iran who hate us?
We did it in Chile when we deposed Allende, democratically elected by the
people to introduce socialism. We replaced him with the brutal right-wing
military dictator, General Pinochet. Chile has still not recovered.
We did it in Vietnam when we thwarted democratic elections in the South
which would have united the country under Ho Chi Minh. We replaced him with
a series of ineffectual puppet crooks who invited us to come in and
slaughter their people - and we did. I flew 101 combat missions in that war.
We did it in Iraq, where we killed a quarter of a million civilians in a
failed attempt to topple Saddam Hussein, and where we have killed a million
since then with our sanctions. About half of these innocent victims have
been children under the age of five.
And, of course, how many times have we done it in Nicaragua and all the
other banana republics of Latin America? Time after time we have ousted
popular leaders who wanted the riches of the land to be shared by the people
who worked it. We replaced them with murderous tyrants who would sell out
and control their own people so that the wealth of the land could be taken
out by Domino Sugar, the United Fruit Company, Folgers, and Chiquita Banana.
In country after country, our government has thwarted democracy, stifled
freedom, and trampled human rights. That's why we are hated around the
world. And that's why we are the target of terrorists.
We are not hated because we practice democracy, freedom, and human rights.
We are hated because our government denies these things to people in third
world countries whose resources are coveted by our multinational
corporations. And that hatred we have sown has come back to haunt us in the
form of terrorism - and in the future, nuclear terrorism.
Instead of sending our sons and daughters around the world to kill Arabs so
the oil companies can sell the oil under their sand, we must send them to
rebuild their infrastructure, supply clean water, and feed starving
children.
Instead of continuing to kill thousands of Iraqi children every day with
ur sanctions, we must help them rebuild their electric powerplants, their
water treatment facilities, their hospitals - all the things we destroyed in
our war against them and prevented them from rebuilding with our sanctions.
People in Canada enjoy better democracy, more freedom, and greater human
rights than we do. So do the people of Norway and Sweden. Have you heard of
Canadian embassies being bombed? Or Norwegian embassies? Or Swedish
embassies. No.
We must do good instead of evil. We must become the good guys, for once .
That is the truth, Mr. President. Stop the killing of non-Americans.
The threat of terrorism would then vanish. "
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There are many similarities between Osama - bin - Laden , Hasan - bin -
Sabah , Charles Manson , and Joseph Smith . Charles Manson believed that the
blacks , or very dark brown Africans , were the sons of Ham , one of Noah's
sons , whom Noah cursed to be the ancestor of slaves [ Genesis 9 : 18 - 29 ]
. Manson was even arrogant enough to call the children of part dark brown
African or Negro and Caucasoid ancestry " a black and white minstel show ."
No where in Genesis 9 : 18 - 29 is skin colour mentioned , and in the Acts
of the Apostles , chapter 8 : 26 - 39 , it is said that St. Philip the
Evangelist converted to Christianity the treasurer of the Queen of the
Ethiopians , Candace . Charles Manson was also a statutory
"polygamist"/concubinist/rapist , as some post - 1890 Mormon splinter groups
still are to this day. A statutory "polygamist"/concubinist/rapist is
someone who marries or has as a concubine more than one female under the age
of 16 at the same time . " The Family " that Charles Manson gave members of
his cult might have been an allusion on Manson's part to Ephesians 3 : 14 -
15 , where the Apostle St. Paul says : " For this reason I bow my knees to
the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , from whom the whole family in heaven
and earth is named ..." The Prophet Muhammad , the founder of Islam ,
allowed the Muslims to own slaves and to have a maximum of four wives at the
same time . To this day , many southern Sudanese Christians and polytheists
are sold into slavery to Saudi Arabian sheiks by the northern Sudanese
Muslims . Hasan - bin - Sabah was the leader of a Muslim terrorist group
called the " Assassins ," or " hashashins ," Persian or Iranian for " hemp -
eaters . " These Assassins belonged to the Ismaili denomination of the
Shiite division of Islam . These Muslim terrorists killed their enemies
while under the influence of hashish , a drug made from the hemp plant .
Hasan - bin - Sabah was alleged by both his Muslim and Christian Crusader
enemies to use hashish and belly - dancing concubines and wives from his
harem who performed sexual favours in order to gain recruits for his
terrorist organization . Hasan - bin - Sabah was called " The Old Man of the
Mountain " because he had as his base a mountain castle - fortress called "
Alamut ," meaning " eagle's nest ," located in what is today the nation -
state of Iran .
The reason why the mainstream Mormon Church , officially known as The Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter - Day Saints , abolished polygamy in 1890 , was
because that was one of the requirements that had to be met in order to
allow Utah to gain the status of a state , even though freedom of religious
expression is protected by the U.S. Constitution . Joseph Smith , the
founder of the Mormon church , based his favourable views on polygamy on the
fact that many famous Jews mentioned in the Old Testament practiced polygamy
and concubinage [ see 1 Kings 11 : 1 - 13 , Galatians chapter 4 ] . Joseph
Smith also claimed that Jesus Christ had three wives at the same time , and
that they were Mary of Bethany , Martha , and Mary Magdalene , also known as
Mary of Magdala . Susan Atkins , one of Charles Manson's concubines ,
sometimes might have thought that she was Mary Magdalene , a former
prostitute according to several Christian denominations , including the
Roman Catholic one , who was forgiven by Jesus Christ after she decided to
change her ways . Joseph Smith believed that only members of the Mormon
church were true Jews , and that the non - Mormon Jews , the non - Mormon
Christians , and the Muslims , pagans or polytheists , agnostics , and
atheists were all " Gentiles ." There have been several Christian groups and
cults throughout history who have claimed that sexual intercourse is some
kind of mystical , religious , and emotionally as well as physically
ecstatic experience . They have included the Puritan sects and cults called
the Ranters and Antinomians [ "antinomos," Greek for "anti - law." ] . The
1600's English Puritan Ranter sect and cult leaders Laurence Clarkson or
Laurence Claxton and Abiezer Coppe might have sometimes thought that they
were the two witnesses of God mentioned in Revelation ch.11 , and the leader
of the 1600's English Puritan sect called the Antinomians was a certain Anne
Marbury Hutchinson [ 1591 - 1643 ] , who settled with her family in the
Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1634 . In 1643 , Anne and several other members
of the Hutchinson family were murdered in the then Dutch colony of the state
of New York by native American Indians . I personally do not believe that
the Apostle St. Paul's teaching in Romans 10 : 13 , " that whomsoever calls
on the name of the LORD will be saved ," is a justification to shout the
word " God " when having a sexual orgasm , and then claim that it is an
action done in the faith . I also do not believe that the Apostle St. Paul's
teaching in Romans 4 : 15 , " that where there is no law , there is no sin ,
" is a justification to walk around nakedly because Adam and Eve once did so
unashamedly before Satan , the fallen angel , disguised as a snake [
Revelation 12 : 7 - 9 ] , tricked them into eating the fruit of forbidden
knowledge , thereby causing Adam and Eve to lose their innocence and
immortality [ Romans chapter 7 , and Song of Songs ] . I also do not believe
that because God the Father is physically speaking neither a man nor a woman
it is morally justifiable to engage in bisexual , homosexual , and lesbian
sexual intercourse . The evolutionary purpose of sexual intercourse for
humans is to produce offspring . However , a literal , fundamentalist
interpretation of the Bible can sometimes lead to sin , as those Christians
who engage in incest might argue that the children of Adam and Eve and the
grandchildren of Noah had to have had sexual intercourse with each other in
order to have offspring .
Charles Manson , who sometimes believed that he was the Son of Man , the
Second Coming of Jesus Christ opening the seven seals mentioned in the New
Testament book of Revelation , the Parousia , was also a strong admirer of
Adolf Hitler , and one of the possible reasons why Charles Manson carved a
swastika in his forehead , was because he was angry with those Jews who
refused to believe that he was the Second Coming of Jesus Christ . Jesus
Christ told His disciples in Matthew 10 : 1 - 15 to first preach the Gospel
of Christianity to the Jews of Israel , and later Jesus told His disciples
to preach the Christian Gospel to all the nations of the world in Matthew 28
: 18 - 20 . However , Jesus Christ would not have sanctioned the use of
force and violence in converting people to Christianity , as He had taught
His disciples in Matthew 7 : 12 and Luke 6 : 31 to do towards others as we
would want them to do to us . Charles Manson was of Scotch - Irish Baptist
ancestry . Charles Manson was a Nazi who decided to use the Hippies because
they were so easy to mislead , being for the most part usually unwise and
easily bought with drugs and sexual favours .The real reason why Charles
Manson was angry with the police was because they refused to make him the
Chief of the Gestapo , with the power to send to the gas chambers those Jews
who refused to believe that he was the Second Coming of Jesus Christ . Jesus
Christ said in Matthew 23 : 37 - 39 the following : " O Jerusalem ,
Jerusalem , the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to
her ! How often I wanted to gather your children together , as a hen gathers
her chicks under her wings , but you were not willing ! " See ! Your house
is left to you desolate ; " For I say to you , you shall see Me no more till
you say , ' Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD ! ' " For
Charles Manson , the true "pigs" were any one who opposed his views ,
especially the politically correct , although to some extent Manson was
justified in his hostility towards the politically correct . Charles Manson
was also a believer in reincarnation . According to Luke 1 : 11 - 19 and
Matthew 17 : 1 - 13 , St. John the Baptist was the Prophet Elijah returned
to Earth to prepare people for the first coming of the prophesied Messiah of
the Old Testament . Manson might have believed on occasions that he was
another John the Baptist , sent to prepare the way for the Second Coming of
Jesus Christ . John the Baptist said in Matthew 3 : 7 to the ancient Israeli
Jewish sects called the Pharisees and Sadducees this , " Brood of vipers !
Who told you to flee from the wrath to come ? " Manson also on occasions
believed that he was either Nathan Bedford Forrest , the southern U.S.
Confederate cavalry general of the U.S. Civil War [ 1861 - 1865 ] who was
also a war criminal and a founder of the original 1866 Ku Klux Klan , or
John Wilkes Booth , the Shakespearen actor who assassinated Abraham Linclon
, reincarnated . The major enemies for the Ku Klux Klan are Afro - Americans
, Jews , members of the Roman Catholic denomination of Christianity , the
Free Masons , liberal Democrats as opposed to southern U.S. Conservative
Democrats , and the Communists . My personal theory on the issue of
reincarnation and regression to past lives under hypnosis is that possibly
memories of one soul that has departed from a dead body are transferred to
another soul in a living body , and not necessarily that of near or distant
relatives , although all people are distant relatives of each other by means
of evolution over many generations. The Sikhs are Indian Muslims who believe
in the Hindu and Buddhist doctrine of karma and reincarnation .
During the Second World War , many Iraqi military officers were pro - Axis
[ Germany , Italy , and Japan ] in their sympathies , and the British Army
in 1941 overthrew the pro - Hitler Iraqi military dictatorship . Many Muslim
Arab Palestinians were also understandably pro - Hitler during the Second
World War , opposed to the large - scale Jewish immigration to Palestine
that had been going on during the British League of Nations mandate of
Palestine from 1918 - 1948 , since many Zionist Jews wished to reestablish
the ancient nation of Israel , which had declined after the then pagan or
polytheist Romans destroyed the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem in A.D. 70, a
revolt that had largely been begun by those Jews who refused to convert to
Christianity , or to Greco - Roman paganism . After Reza Shah Pahlavi of
Iran refused in 1941 to allow the British to use the Trans - Iranian Railway
to bring supplies to their war - time ally , the Soviet Union , the British
and Soviets sent their military to occupy Iran for the remainder of the war
until . Reza Shah Pahlavi was forced to abdicate in favour of his son Shah
Mohammed Reza Pahlavi , who signed a war - time treaty with the British and
Soviets . Mohammed Reza Pahlavi was the last Shah of Iran , overthrown in
1979 by the fundamentalist , fanatical Islamist revolution led by the
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini . The presence of these troops in Iran during
the Second World War heightened strongly nationalistic and pro - Axis
sympathy among many Iranians , made worse by the fact that both Russia and
Britain had long held colonial ambitions towards Iran . Ironically enough ,
the Cold War superpower rivals , the U.S.A. and the U.S.S.R. , both backed
Iraq in its war against Iran from 1980 - 1988 .
The great split within the Muslim world is between the Sunni and Shiite and
divisions of Islam . The Sunnis are the " Protestant " equivalent of Islam ,
as they believe that any suitably qualified Muslim adult male can succeed
the Prophet Muhammad as Qaliph or supreme spiritual leader of the Islamic
world , whereas the Shiites believe that only the direct descendants of
Muhammad can qualify for this role . Most Muslims are Sunnis , including
Osama - bin - Laden , his Arabian peninsula Al - Qaida or Al - Qaeda
supporters , and their Afghan Taliban protectors . The Shiites form the
majority of the Muslim population in Iran , Iraq , and a large minority of
the population in Lebanon . However , only in Iran are the Shiites in
control of the government . In Iraq , a Sunni Arab Muslim minority , located
mainly in central Iraq around and within Baghdad , controls the Iraqi
government . The wealthy Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein , with his many
palaces , is a Sunni Arab Muslim . The Shiite Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq
and the Sunni Kurdish [ Kurdish is an Iranian dialect with many Arab and
Turkish loan words ] of northern Iraq are bitterly opposed to the rule of
Saddam Hussein and the ruling clique of the Sunni Muslim Arab Iraqis based
in Baghdad . During the Iraq - Iran War of 1980 - 1988 , most Shiite Marsh
Arabs of Iraq stayed relatively loyal to Saddam Hussein , but the Sunni
Kurds of Iraq allied themselves with the Shiite Iranians , leading to the
terrible reprisal by the Iraqi central government with chemical weapons .
Personally , I believe that neither the Iraqis or the Iranians can be
trusted with nuclear , chemical , and biological weapons , which , if they
were ever allowed to develop , they would probably use against Israel ,
which itself has a large nuclear arsenal , thereby leading to a Middle
Eastern nuclear war that would pollute the oil wells of the Middle East ,
and the result would be serious world inflation that would hit the poor
nations of the world especially hard . Should a nuclear armed missile hit an
oil well , clouds of radioactive contaminated black smoke from that oil well
would travel far into the atmosphere , and would return to earth as
radioactive contaminated acid rain .
However , the Islamic world does not have a monopoly on ultimately
religiously inspired anti - Jewish sentiment , even though the Prophet
Muhammad turned against the Jews after his hopes for their conversion to
Islam on a large scale failed to eventuate . The Prophet Muhammad also had
the same hopes towards the Christians . Martin Luther the German published
in 1543 an essay called " On the Jews and Their Lies ," in which Luther
urged that Jewish synagogues be burnt , because most of the Jews refused to
convert to Christianity on a large scale , which Martin Luther hoped would
be a sign of the return of Jesus Christ in the near future . In 1938 , in
Nazi Germany , on Kristallnacht [ Crystalnight , or The Night of Broken
Glass ] , many Jewish synagogues were burnt , as Martin Luther had urged in
his often reprinted and preached 1543 essay called " On the Jews and Their
Lies ," as this essay was often preached by most German Lutheran pastors ,
with a few exceptions , until 1945 . After the German federal election of
the 5th of March , 1933 , Alfred von Hugenberg , the leader of the mainly
Lutheran laypersons' [ non - pastors ] " German National Peoples' Party ,"
along with Baron Franz von Papen , leader of the mainly Catholic laypersons'
" Center Party ," formed a coalition with the Nazis , in order to outvote
the Communists and Social Democrats . The Nazis gained about 44% of the
seats in the lower house of the German federal parliament , the Reichstag ,
in the German federal election of the 5th of March , 1933 . On the 14th of
July , 1933 , all political parties except the Nazi party were prohibited in
Nazi Germany . From 1929 - 1933 , the Nazis gained the largest votes in
German state elections where the Lutherans formed the majority of the
states' population . Between 1929 - 1933 , these following German states ,
all of them with a mainly Lutheran population , had state governments where
the Nazis were either coalition leaders or partners : Braunschweig [
Brunswick in English ] , Mecklenburg , Mecklenburg - Strelitz , Lubeck ,
Thuringia , Saxony - Anhalt , Harzburg , Oldenburg , and Lippe . Only the
German state of Schleswig - Holstein , another mainly Lutheran state , had a
state legislature between 1929 - 1933 , where the Nazis had a majority of
the seats between 1929 - 1933 . Schleswig - Holstein had been taken from
Denmark by Germany in a war that had broken out in 1864 , and in 1920 , the
northern third of Schleswig was returned to Denmark after a referendum had
been held on the issue .One of the reasons why Germany , out of all other
nations , had the Nazis come to power , was because Germany lacked a strong
democratic tradition . Between 1850 - 1919 , the German state of
Brandenburg - Prussia had a three class electoral law , although the state
of Bavaria had introduced universal adult male suffrage in 1904 , followed
by Baden - Wurttemberg [ formerly Swabia ] , in 1906 .The German state
governments nominated the members of the German federal upper house , the
Bundesrat , which , along with the German Chancellor and Kaiser had final
veto powers over the German federal lower house , the Bundestag . The German
Catholics are found mostly in the southern , south-eastern , and western
parts of Germany , and in March 1938 German - speaking Austria was forcibly
annexed by Nazi Germany . Benito Mussolini , the founder of 20th Century
Italian Fascism , was a former anarcho - syndicalist socialist , as
Napoleone Buonaparte of Corsica had once been a former Jacobin . Corsica
until 1768 was part of the Italian state of Genoa - Liguria , and the native
language of Corsica is an Italian dialect . Like Adolf Hitler was to do
after him in 1941 , Napoleone Buonaparte launched a disastrous invasion of
Russia in 1812 , and by 1815 the remnants of Napoleone's imperial armies
were defeated at the Battle of Waterloo by the combined allied armies of
Wellington's British red coats and of Blucher's Prussian - German dark blue
coats .
Most of the Japanese are Mahayana Buddhists and Shintoists at the same time
. The Mahayana Buddhists are the Protestants of Buddhism , as opposed to the
Theravada Buddhists , who are the Catholics of Buddhism . The Mahayana
Buddhists believe that members of the Buddhist laity , as well as members of
the Buddhist monkhood , can achieve nirvana more quickly . The Mahayana
Buddhists also tend to place greater emphasis on the sincerity of a
believer's faith , the relationship between motives and methods , and the
role of divine grace , then Theravada Buddhists do . In 1925 universal adult
male suffrage or voting rights was introduced for national elections for the
first time in the history of Japan , although by 1941 Japan had become a
one - party state military dictatorship . Since 1909 , the martial art of
judo , which traces its ancestry to the samurai martial art of jujitsu , has
been a compulsory subject in Japanese schools , although it was banned as a
compulsory subject in Japanese schools from 1945 - 1950 . After 1945 , the
requirement of all able - bodied Japanese males over the age of 21 to do
three years of compulsory military service , was abolished , although the
martial arts still figure prominently in the training of the members of
Japan's voluntary Self - Defense Forces and police force to this day . The
three techniques of judo are nagewaza [ throwing ] , katamewaza [
wrestling ] , and atemiwaza [ punching and kicking ] . Atemiwaza may only be
taught to judokas above the rank of white belt , and may only be used by
them in training and self - defense , but never in judo sporting contests .
During the Second World War , when low on bullets and food , the Japanese
soldiers would often launch a banzai bayonet charge and judo - atemiwaza
attack , preferring a heroic death to humiliating surrender .
Heinrich Himmler , the leader of the Gestapo , once ridiculously tried to
prove that the Japanese are undercover Aryans , since the Japanese racially
mixed with the indigenous peoples of the Japanese Home Islands , the Ainu ,
who once had some Caucasian - like physical features . Today , there are few
or no Ainu without some Japanese ancestry . The Japanese themselves are a
mixture of Altaic people [ speakers of the closely related Korean , Manchuri
an , Tungus , Inner Mongolian [ Chinese province ] , and Outer Mongolian [
Russian occupied from 1916 - 1991 ] languages , and the Malay people ,
including the Indonesians and Filipinos . The southern Chinese , Taiwanese
Chinese , and Vietnamese , Laotian , Cambodian and Thai languages show a
heavy Malay substratum , a result of racial mixing between indigenous or
earlier arrived people and foreign invaders . Premier Hideki Tojo of Japan
can be considered not only as a 20th Century Japanese Shogun , but also as
20th Century Temujin or Genghis Khan of Asia . Since albinos are the only
true whites , ultra - nationalist Japanese political and religious groups ,
especially those that try to combine Buddhist and Shintoist teachings with
Christianity , should try to hire genetic engineers to invent albino skinned
Ainus who are immune to sunburn , because of the Transfiguration of Jesus
Christ , when " His clothes turned became as white as the light ," [ Matthew
17 : 2 ] , and with slanted eye folds retained , because of the miracle of
the eye of the needle mentioned in Mark 10 : 25 - 27. I am being sarcastic
here . Shoko Asahara and the Aum Shinrikyo or Aum Supreme Truth sect comes
to mind . Maybe the martial art of judo should also be genetically encoded
into the Japanese by means of genetic engineering , because of David and
Goliath , to be sarcastic again . The Ainu have abundant facial hair , as
does also Charles Manson .
As much as I hate Nazism , I also hate Communism . Proverbs 4 : 27 in the
Old Testament says that we should not turn to the right or the left , but
that we should remove our feet from evil . Proverbs 19 : 10 in the Old
Testament says that it is not fitting for a fool to enjoy luxury , much less
for a servant to rule over princes . With the long - term economic legacy of
Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot , I can see why . Jesus Christ said in Mark 10 :
17 - 27 that nothing is impossible with God , and that God can save a rich
person who follows the Ten Commandments . Although one of the Ten
Commandments forbids Jews , Christians , and Muslims to worship " graven
images , " for example a pagan idol such as a golden statue of a cow , Moses
was commanded by God to order the construction of statues of two cherubim
angels on the lid of the Ark of the Covenant , called the " mercy seat ."
The Ark of the Covenant contained the two stone tablets with the Ten
Commandments written on them . According to Proverbs 30 : 8 - 9 , it is
morally safest to be neither rich nor poor , because the rich might be
tempted to deny God and the poor might be tempted to steal . An excess of
material possessions can lead to spiritual and moral complacency , and
hunger can lead to theft . Usury is the sin of lending money on interest to
the poor according to Proverbs 22 : 7 and Proverbs 22 : 26 - 27 , but what
about lending money on interest to the middle class and the rich for
business expansion purposes ? According to 2 Timothy 3 : 16 - 17 , all of
the Bible is inspired by God [ see also Ephesians 2 : 8 - 10 , 1 Timothy 2 :
1 - 4 , 2 Peter 3 : 9 , John 5 : 24 , John 3 : 16 , Mark 9 : 23 - 24 ,
Romans 10 : 9 , Luke chapter 15 , Luke 19 : 1 - 10 , Proverbs 13 : 13 ,
Proverbs 14 : 26 - 27 , Proverbs 19 : 23 , 1 Corinthians 12 : 3 , and the
Acts of the Apostles 9 : 1 - 18 ] . Although free will exists according to 1
Timothy 2 : 1 - 4 and 2 Peter 3 : 9 , since these two references from the
New Testament says that God wants everyone to be saved , God , who is
eternal , with no beginning and no end , and who is all knowing , knows what
choices people will make in the future [ see the Acts of the Apostles 15 :
18 ] .
In the U.S.A. , the adult male citizen voters , who have the constitutional
authority to elect their politicians , also have the constitutional
authority under the Second Bill of Rights to bear arms as members of a well
regulated state militia , for example , the U.S. National Guard , which the
U.S. Supreme Court interpreted as being a safeguard intended by the American
law makers of the 1780's to protect the states from any likelihood that the
U.S. federal government would become dictatorial , although the state ,
county , and municipal governments are just as likely to become dictatorial
, as the southern U.S. states often treated their black minorities in a
dictatorial manner . The U.S. National Guard and the posse comitatus of the
U.S. Sheriff traces its historical origins to the county or shire and
municipal or borough Trained Band army reserve and volunteer mounted yeoman
constabulary of the old English miltia system , along with the liverymen ,
coachmen , footmen , doormen of the English aristocracy and guild masters ,
and the comparatively light cavalry armed retainers or bodyguards of ancient
English warrior - aristocrats or warlord chieftains . St . Paul the Apostle
wrote in his epistle to the Romans , chapter 13 : 1 - 7 that all authorities
who wield the sword are appointed by God to enforce the law . The word
"authorities" is a plural word . However , I still believe that rioters
should be dispersed by firing rubber coated metal bullets into their legs ,
stomachs , and chests , with the use of scopes for accurate aiming and
semi - automatic rifles to control the rate of fire . The safety of the riot
police comes before the safety of rioters , because peaceful and legal
protesters lose many civil rights when they decide to become violent rioters
and cowardly mob tyrants .
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Sapper
crap.
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> natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
> summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
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> Summer grasses,
> All that remains
> Of soldier's dreams
> (Basho trans. Stryk)
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Sapper
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> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:45:29 GMT, "Sapper" <ce...@cox.net> Gave us:
>
> >This is BS. Consider the source. Please give the source of this
made-up
> >crap.
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> bombing campaign run details.
An air force light colonel on active status would never make these comments
nor be allowed to make these comments. I did not see USAF (ret.), which
makes me further question the authenticity. Also, I don't know ANY military
officers, particularly LTC's with such a naive world-view.
Faust
> This is BS. Consider the source. Please give the source of this made-up
> crap.
Dont like the truth ?
Sapper
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Sapper
Here's some other "insights from "The Reverend Colonel Bowman":
"And if a true progressive such as Dennis Kucinich or Marcy Kaptur runs, I
will enthusiastically give my support." -- Yes, that's the same Marcy
Kaptur who equates Bin Laden with George Washington.
"If we abolished our armed forces and used our resources to feed the hungry,
cure the sick, and care for the needy - both at home and around the world -
who would try to stop us? Who would hate us? Who would want to bomb us?" --
Peace through weakness....worth a try. NOT!
Why don't you go join this kook's church yourself. This guy hasn't been in
the military in years and has long-since gone off the deep end, apparently.
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"I lost 45lbs on the XXX diet"
About as convincing as the statement below.
-Rich
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 12:01:24 +1100, Faust <urf...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
Holly
>
> "The Real Reason for Terrorism
> Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF
>
>
> "Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth about why
we
> are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the target because we
> stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the world.
A more lovely day, it could not have been. With the sun on my face and the
intoxicating fragrances of Spring in the air, I head off to a small town on
the coast of the Chesapeake Bay at lands end. Although out in the country
the trees have not awakened yet from their winter sleep, flashes of color
were winging back and forth across the road as the birds could be heard
chirping away. Won't be long now before the sights, sounds and fragrances
of the crickets, honeysuckle, blackberries, fireflies, ladybugs, and
dragonflies join the emergence of Spring and provide for our evenings
entertainment as we sit on our porches chatting with our friends with beer
and pretzels.
My thoughts are disrupted because I have reached my destination. I am
greeted by the husband and wife owners of the auto shop. Immediately,
hearing this loud cheeping noise I ask, what is that sound? The woman looks
back into the marshy wood behind their small house which is next to their
place of business and says, "why those are the frogs. You're in the country
now." I give a smile and go on about my work with a bit of envy as I notice
the small boat they have stored in their shop. After I finish what I went
there to do, I request an over-due safety inspection of my car and they are
more than happy to assist and both get to work. The man's a bit grumpy, me
being city folk and all and yells at me to speak up because he cannot hear
out of his left ear, but after a time he realizes I might not be so bad
after all so he warms up and the three of us start to chat. I ask Dickie if
he would happen to have new blades for my windshield wipers. He explains the
complete working of the rubber on the windshield wipers and why they are
making that god awful noise. He said the blades are fine and they will just
start making the noise again in six month if he replaces them, but he will
if I want him to. I say I do so he goes to search for the part. Nope. He has
the thick blade and not the thin ones and I should have a seat while he runs
to the parts store, post office, and hardware store and said he'd be right
back. So I stroll into their little office and the wife says, have a seat
and enjoy the country for a while. A neighbor had stopped in and joined us
as well.
As we are chatting away Helen tells me about the area declining over the
years, the young ones are moving to the city and all. But retiring people
are moving into the area for the peace and quiet. One house had been re-sold
3 times in one year. I ask if they become disillusioned thinking the town is
not heaven and move out. "No!" she says, "it is heaven!" I didn't pursue it.
The subject is changed to the life of the fishermen in the area. It seems
fishing regulation have taken their toll on the fisherman. The time for
crabbing has been reduced to 100 days a year and dredging is not allowed.
You see the crabs do not migrate south as I thought. They hibernate for the
winter by digging themselves into the mud at the bottom of the bay. The
female crab mates only when they have a soft shell and does so 3 times a
year. The most fruitful of the matings is in the fall right before
hibernation. So dredging would disturb and diminish this process.
Preservation of the Chesapeake Bay wildlife and marine life is quite the
priority these days.
Anyway, Helen starts to tell me how life on the water is not easy and
sometimes quite dangerous for the fisherman. They go out all year round even
in the icy winter time fishing for one thing or another to make ends meet;
oysters, crabs, fish, mussels.... Seems that a few years back Bobby told he
wife he wanted to put the Christmas tree up early this year and they
scheduled the event for Sunday. Bobby went out the next day to do some
crabbing. When he did not come back that evening the men went looking for
him. Crabbing boats are anchored and the boats circle around and around with
the nets out to catch the crabs, or maybe they are dropping pots. That point
was not clear. However, when the men got to Bobby's boat it was going around
and around with no response from Bobby. The boat ran out of gas. Bobby was
not there. Three months later Bobby was found on a beach quite aways off.
Hard life.
Well Dickie comes back in no time as he promised. He stopped in on Sam to
pay Sam the $1.00 he cheated himself out of the last time Dickie was there.
Dickie says, "Sam may be a millionaire and all but I owe him a dollar and he
got it. I'm too honest for my own good." He looks out the window and sees a
big dump truck speeding down the street. It isn't one of the local boys.
Dickie says, "now I'm not going to do it but some will call the sheriff to
set up a trap and stop these speeders. They're a menace. These contractors
building in the area need to keep their drivers in line." Dickie put the
blades on my wipers. I pay up and thank them for a pleasant time and tell
them I will be back. They get back to their work. Helen will be helping
Dickie weld a new exhaust system onto a neighbors car. Heading south, my
next stop a young man with a small woodworking shop and a right hand that
doesn't work so well which doesn't seem to slow him down too much.
Holly (American)
Holly
"Sajo Markecz" <zilm...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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Twice in my life I have been honored with the siting of the true and
brilliant bluebird, once in the Rocky Mountains and then again in the Blue
Ridge. There is no mistaking it. You know it when you see it. Nature must
sit back and have a good a laugh at the human comedies and dramas for we
tend to make the world such a complicated place.
http://wildlife.visitmt.com/SongBirds/mountain_bluebird.htm
Turlough
"Séimí mac Liam" wrote:
> > Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF
> >
>
> http://www.rmbowman.com/
These are Fundamentalist Christians. They are far more dangerous than
the Bush administration...
Turlough
peter terry
"Turlough" <turlo...@excite.com> wrote in message
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thrown in for good measure.
PeterT
> Turlough
Clough
>This is BS. Consider the source. Please give the source of this made-up
>crap.
It was a very intelligent and perceptive article that told it how it
is. You Yankees are so stupid. No wonder the world hates you and your
halfwit president.
Clough
Mitchell Holman
news:Z3Caa.133128$XB3....@news1.west.cox.net:
> This guy hasn't
> been in the military in years
When was the last time Bush was in the
military? Cheney? Rush? Reagan?
Ah, the horrors of the Peace-thru-Strength
crowd when one of their own disagrees with
them.
Post replies to Vietnam Veterans Against
The War (http://www.vvaw.org/) and Veterans
Against the War (www.vaiw.org/)
Mitchell Holman
news:27vl6v44bc2a0n26v...@4ax.com:
> "John Smith" from Sunnydale CA says"
> "I lost 45lbs on the XXX diet"
> About as convincing as the statement below.
> -Rich
>
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 12:01:24 +1100, Faust <urf...@optushome.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"The Real Reason for Terrorism
>>Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF
>>
>>
>>"Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth about
>>why we are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the target
>>because we stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the
>>world.
>>
>>The truth is very different.
>>
>>We are the target of terrorists because we stand for dictatorship,
>>bondage, and human exploitation in the world. We are the target of
>>terrorists because we are hated.
>>
That much is true.
>>And we are hated because our government has done hateful things.
>>In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and
>>replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell
>>out their own people to American multinational corporations?
>>
This is true as well.
>>We did it in Iran when we deposed Mossadegh because he wanted to
>>nationalize the oil industry. We replaced him with the Shah, and
>>trained, armed, and paid his hated Savak national guard, which
>>enslaved and brutalized the people of Iran. All to protect the
>>financial interests of our oil companies. Is it any wonder there are
>>people in Iran who hate us?
>>
This correct.
>>We did it in Chile when we deposed Allende, democratically elected by
>>the people to introduce socialism. We replaced him with the brutal
>>right-wing military dictator, General Pinochet. Chile has still not
>>recovered.
>>
Correct as well.
>>We did it in Vietnam when we thwarted democratic elections in the
>>South which would have united the country under Ho Chi Minh. We
>>replaced him with a series of ineffectual puppet crooks who invited us
>>to come in and slaughter their people - and we did.
History has proven this right.
>
>>We did it in Iraq, where we killed a quarter of a million civilians in
>>a failed attempt to topple Saddam Hussein, and where we have killed a
>>million since then with our sanctions. About half of these innocent
>>victims have been children under the age of five.
>>
Don't know about this.
>>And, of course, how many times have we done it in Nicaragua and all
>>the other banana republics of Latin America? Time after time we have
>>ousted popular leaders who wanted the riches of the land to be shared
>>by the people who worked it. We replaced them with murderous tyrants
>>who would sell out and control their own people so that the wealth of
>>the land could be taken out by Domino Sugar, the United Fruit Company,
>>Folgers, and Chiquita Banana.
>>
This is correct
>>In country after country, our government has thwarted democracy,
>>stifled freedom, and trampled human rights. That's why we are hated
>>around the world. And that's why we are the target of terrorists.
>>
Bingo.
>>We are not hated because we practice democracy, freedom, and human
>>rights. We are hated because our government denies these things to
>>people in third world countries whose resources are coveted by our
>>multinational corporations. And that hatred we have sown has come back
>>to haunt us in the form of terrorism - and in the future, nuclear
>>terrorism.
>>
Such is the case.
>>Instead of sending our sons and daughters around the world to kill
>>Arabs so the oil companies can sell the oil under their sand, we must
>>send them to rebuild their infrastructure, supply clean water, and
>>feed starving children.
>>
>>Instead of continuing to kill thousands of Iraqi children every day
>>with ur sanctions, we must help them rebuild their electric
>>powerplants, their water treatment facilities, their hospitals - all
>>the things we destroyed in our war against them and prevented them
>>from rebuilding with our sanctions.
>>
>>People in Canada enjoy better democracy, more freedom, and greater
>>human rights than we do. So do the people of Norway and Sweden. Have
>>you heard of Canadian embassies being bombed? Or Norwegian embassies?
>>Or Swedish embassies. No.
The question conservatives are always afraid
to ask, much less answer. WHY the US is so hated,
so targeted for terrorism.
Washington had it right. Avoid foreign entanglements.
Stay out of other country's politics. Stop propping up
dictators and tyrants. Stop letting corporations craft
foreign policy decisions.
Mitchell Holman
In "Right from the Beginning", Pat Buchanan refers to Spanish
dictator Francisco Franco as a "Catholic savior." He called Franco,
along with Chile's Gen. Pinochet, "soldier-patriots."
(syndicated column 9/17/89)
Both men overthrew democracy in their countries.
Dana Dare
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 16:26:37 GMT, Mitchell Holman <ta2...@attbi.com>
> Gave us:
>
>
>> When was the last time Bush was in the
>>military? Cheney? Rush? Reagan?
>
>
>
>
> Rush is a twerp.
George II was in the Texas Air National Guard for a somewhat-disputed
length of time during the Vietnam War -- Cheney was never in the
military, opting, as Ashcroft, Rove, and Wolfowitz, for deferments to
pursue other life-goals... while "supporting the war" (Vietnam) stateside.
You're right about Rush, who was never in the military and is *indeed* a
twerp -- and too, Ronald Reagan was never in the military.
For more info:
http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks.html
--
Usenet: a nice place to visit -- but I wouldn't want to live there.
Dana Dare
Chip C
@news1.west.cox.net>, Sapper allegedly wrote...
> Source it, then, please. I suspect bullshit.
>
You suspect bullshit but can't do a simple Google search?
http://www.mediamonitors.net/robertmbowman1.html
http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman2000/
--
Chip C
Personal site: http://www.chipcom.net/
Christmas Stories: http://www.christmas-stories.com/
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
-- Emiliano Zapata
SteveL
Naive? There's Newspeak for you. You call cynical naive?
It's certainly less naive than the "We are always good. They are
always Evil" propaganda crap that you've been brainwashed with since
your first Pledge of Allegience.
Sapper
"SteveL" <stev...@nospamntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 05:48:48 GMT, "Sapper" <ce...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"DarkMatter" <DarkM...@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in
message
> >news:i5kl6v8bqnehsme0u...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:45:29 GMT, "Sapper" <ce...@cox.net> Gave us:
> >>
> >> >This is BS. Consider the source. Please give the source of this
> >made-up
> >> >crap.
> >>
> >>
> >> If anything, an Air Force Light colonel is more interested in
> >> bombing campaign run details.
> >
> >An air force light colonel on active status would never make these
comments
> >nor be allowed to make these comments. I did not see USAF (ret.), which
> >makes me further question the authenticity. Also, I don't know ANY
military
> >officers, particularly LTC's with such a naive world-view.
> >
>
> Naive? There's Newspeak for you. You call cynical naive?
Cynical about his own government, naive about the rest of the world. He
proposes unilateral disarmament as a means to peace. That is naive. I
meant what I said.
Next!
>
> It's certainly less naive than the "We are always good. They are
> always Evil" propaganda crap that you've been brainwashed with since
> your first Pledge of Allegience.
>
Yes naive notions like, "With Liberty and Justice for all". How trite!
Sapper
"Chip C" <ch...@chipcom.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 07:05:24 GMT, In article <UIBaa.132936$XB3.77347
> @news1.west.cox.net>, Sapper allegedly wrote...
>
> > Source it, then, please. I suspect bullshit.
> >
>
> You suspect bullshit but can't do a simple Google search?
>
> http://www.mediamonitors.net/robertmbowman1.html
> http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman2000/
>
Yes its bullshit insofar as the original post just listed him as a LtCol and
nothing else, implying he's some sort of military expert or current or
recent officer. He didn't give his pertinent credentials, just the
misleading one. He's actually a kook Vietnam vet (not implying Vietnam vets
are kooks, just dating his service) running for "President" in some fringe
party who runs his own fringe church and supports ultra-leftist politicians
who in some cases feel Osama bin Laden are on a par with our founding
fathers.
Google-search that!
Sapper
"Clough" <in...@canoemail.com> wrote in message
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I'm not a Yankee. I grew up south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Chip C
@news1.west.cox.net>, Sapper allegedly wrote...
>
> "Chip C" <ch...@chipcom.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.18d56e43b...@news-server.neo.rr.com...
> > On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 07:05:24 GMT, In article <UIBaa.132936$XB3.77347
> > @news1.west.cox.net>, Sapper allegedly wrote...
> >
> > > Source it, then, please. I suspect bullshit.
> > >
> >
> > You suspect bullshit but can't do a simple Google search?
> >
> > http://www.mediamonitors.net/robertmbowman1.html
> > http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman2000/
> >
>
> Yes its bullshit insofar as the original post just listed him as a LtCol and
> nothing else, implying he's some sort of military expert or current or
> recent officer. He didn't give his pertinent credentials, just the
> misleading one. He's actually a kook Vietnam vet (not implying Vietnam vets
> are kooks, just dating his service) running for "President" in some fringe
> party who runs his own fringe church and supports ultra-leftist politicians
> who in some cases feel Osama bin Laden are on a par with our founding
> fathers.
>
Didn't Ronald Reagan once compare the Muhajedeen to our founding
fathers? One of the regs in here has the quote in his/her sig if I
remember right.
Brash
Fucktard.
--
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>
Peter Plaumann
Brash schrieb:
> You're full of shit. ...
A crosspost of your remarkable statement has arrived in
de.soc.politik.misc. German have many faults, but the usage of words
like shit or fuck plays a different role from the English speaking
world.
> ... This is one man's views. Not those of the USAF.
I was aware of this. Too bad.
> Fucktard.
Is this your name?
Brash
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No.
RON
> "Peter Plaumann" <peter.p...@mi.uni-erlangen.de> wrote in message
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> > Hey man!
> >
> > Brash schrieb:
> >
> > > You're full of shit. ...
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Listen you pathetic little man...I make no secret of my name, address,
domestic information etc. Why don't you drop by for a visit?? I
promise, on my honour, to only torture you for 45 minutes until I pop
out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you to death.
Ryan Air has cheap flights and Sweden has tight gun laws...not that
all respect them, but you are welcome to try.
Scott Millington
DemSoc
Michael O'Neill
Where's the original URL?
I want it!
The First American to admit the past.
That's something to have.
He still missed the fact the the USG sets its own troops and citizens up
for the "kill" every time it wants na excuse go to war.
The Maine, Pearl, Tonkin, 9-11. All atrocities used window-dressing to
motivate the American public to support War Crimes abroad.
Still, there's hope this water will penetrate eventually.
M.
hans habiger
We are accused of terrorism:
if we defended rose and woman
and the mighty verse ...
and the blueness of sky ...
A dominion .. nothing left therein...
No water, no air ..
No tent, no camel,
and not even dark Arabica coffee!!
We are accused of terrorism:
if we defended with guts
the hair of Balqis
and the lips of Maysun
if we defended Hind, and Da`d
Lubna and Rabab ..
and the stream of Kohl
coming down from their lashes like the verses of revelation.
You will not find with me
a secret poem
or a secret logos
or books I put behind doors.
I do not even have one poem
walking down the street, wearing veil.
We are accused of terrorism:
if we wrote about the ruins of a homeland
torn, weak ...
a homeland with no address
and an nation with no names
***
I seek the remnants of a homeland
none of its grand poems is left
except the bemoans of Khansa.
***
I seek a dominion in whose horizons
no freedom can be found
red .. blue or yellow.
***
A homeland forbidding us from bying a newspaper
or listening to the news.
A dominion wherein birds are forbidden
from chirping.
A homeland wherein, out of terror [ru`b],
its writers got accustomed to write about
nothing.
A homeland, in the likeness of poetry in our lands:
It is vain talk,
no rhythm,
imported
Ajam, with a crooked face and tongue:
No beginning
No end
No relation with people's worry
mother earth
and the crisis of man.
***
A dominion ...
going to peace talks
with no honor
no shoe.
***
A homeland,
men peed in their pans ..
women are those left to defend honor.
***
Salt in our eyes
Salt in our lips
Salt in our words
Can the self carry such dryness?
An inheritance we got from the barren Qahtan?
In our nation, no Mu`awiya, and no Abu Sufiyan
No one is left to say "NO"
and face the quitters
they gave up our houses, our bread and our [olive] oil.
They transformed our bright history into a mediocre store.
***
In our lives, no poem is left,
since we lost our chastity in the bed of the Sultan.
***
They got accustomed to us, the humbled.
What is left to man
when all that remains
is disgrace.
***
I seek in the books of history
Ussamah ibn al-Munqith
Uqba ibn Nafi`
Omar, and Hamzah
and Khalid, driving his flocks conquering the Shem.
I seek a Mu`tasim Billah
Saving women from the cruelty of rape
and the fire.
***
I seek latter days men
All I can see is frightened cats
Scared for their own souls, from
the sultanship of mice.
***
Is this an overwhelming national blindness?
Are we blind to colors?
We are accused of terrorism
If we refuse to die
with Israel's bulldozers
tearing our land
tearing our history
tearing our Evangelium
tearing our Koran
tearing the graves of our prophets
If this was our sin,
then, lo, how beautiful terrorism is?
***
We are accused of terrorism
if we refused to be effaced
by the hands of the Mogul, Jews and Barbarians
if we throw a stone
at the glass of the the Security Council
after the Ceasar of Ceasars got a hold of it.
We are accused of terrorism
if we refuse to negociate with the wolf
and shake the hand with a whore
***
America
Against the cultures of the peoples
with no culture
Against the civilizations of the civilized
with no civilization
America
a mighty edifice
with no walls!
***
We are accused of terrorism:
if we refused an era
America became
the foolish, the rich, the mighty
translated, sworn
in Hebrew.
***
We are accused of terrorism:
if we throw a rose
to Jerusalem
to al-Khalil
to Ghazza
to an-Nasirah
if we took bread and water
to beleaguered Troy.
***
We are accused of terrorism:
if we raised our voices against
the regionalists of our leaders.
All changed their rides:
from Unionists
to Brokers.
***
If we committed the heinous crime of culture
if we revolted against the orders of the grand caliph
and the seat of the caliphate
If we read jurisprudence or politics
If we recalled God
and read verse al-Fat-h
[that Chapter of Conquest].
If we listened to the Friday sermon
then we are well-established in the art of terrorism
***
We are accused of terrorism
if we defended land
and the honor of dust
if we revolted against the rape of people
and our rape
if we defended the last palm trees in our desert
the last stars in our sky
the last syllabi of our names
the last milk in our mothers' bosoms
if this was our sin
how beautiful is terrorism.
I am with terrorism
if it is able to save me
from the immigrants from Russia
Romania, Hungaria, and Poland
***
They settled in Palestine
set foot on our shoulders
to steal the minarets of al-Quds
and the door of Aqsa
to steal the arabesques
and the domes.
***
I am with terrorism
if it will free the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth,
and the virgin, Meriam Betula
and the holy city
from the ambassadors of death and desolation
***
Yesteryear
The nationalist street was fervent
like a wild horse.
The rivers were abundant with the spirit of youth.
***
But after Olso,
we no longer had teeth:
we are now a blind and lost people.
***
We are accused of terrorism:
if we defended with full-force
our poetic heritage
our national wall
our rosy civilization
the culture of flutes in our mountains
and the mirrors displaying blackened eyes.
***
We are accused of terrorism:
if we defended what we wrote
El azure of our sea
and the aroma of ink
if we defended the freedom of the word
and the holiness of books
***
I am with terrorism
if it is able to free a people
from tyrants and tyranny
if it is able to save man from the cruelty of man
to return lemon, olive tree, and bird to the South of Lebanon
and the smile back to Golan
***
I am with terrorism
if it will save me
from the Caesar of Yehuda
and the Caesar of Rome
***
I am with terrorism
as long as this new world order
is shared
between America and Israel
half-half
***
I am with terrorism
with all my poetry
with all my words
and all my teeth
as long as this new world
is in the hands of a butcher.
***
I am with terrorism
if the U.S. Senate
enacts judgment
decrees reward and punishment
***
I am with Irhab [terrorism]
as long this new world order
hates the smell of A`rab.
***
I am with terrorism
as long as the new world order
wants to slaughter my off-spring.
and send them to dogs.
For all this
I raise my voice high:
I am with terrorism
I am with terrorism
I am with terrorism ...
Nizar Qabbani
London, 15 April 1997.
Michael O'Neill
> I am with terrorism
[unfocussed revenge poetry]
Look. Could we get this straight.
Most Americans I know are decent people. Some overweight.
They pay for the wars with their taxes. A balanced slate.
They pay for the wars with their children's lives and their own lives and
shattered families. They learn to hate.
Their crime is that they support the international corporations and the
military complexes that give them jobs.
They really cannot accept that successive American governments have
dragged them into wars to create enormous private profits at the expense
of them and theirs.
They haven't the foggiest iota that the swelling feeling of aggression
after 9-11;
was directed against Afghanistan WITH NO PROOF,
was directed against Iraq WITH NO PROOF
and will be directed against Syria and North Korea WITH NO PROOF.
Some are not fully sentient any more.
They are in massive denial. About the massacre of the Indians, the
slaves, their brothers in the Civil War, the Filipinos, the Vietnamese,
the East Timorese, the Argentineans, the Cubans, the Panamanians...
You name it, they cannot face it. Not facing it, they are diminished.
Yet the killing of these idiot/innocents by Terrorism will not hold back
the night.
Atrocity breeds atrocity. Might is right.
The only way to break the cycle is to reduce the violence, because
violence projects the wrong people into power. Always.
Peaceful Democracies. A Net of Democracy. Social Democracy.
Inclusiveness. Diversity embraced. No Periphery. No Core. Let
Globalization happen. It can only bring us all closer.
And when we turn to face the ones who caused the carnage on the way
there, and they say, standing on their piles of money, "See, didn't it
all work out well in the end?"
Then, and only then, choose your victims.
But don't, please kill them. Don't honour them with a martyr's death.
Martyrdom's for Saints, not Sinners.
Learn instead the elegance of ridicule, the power of pomposity's bubble
burst. The asylum of the deviant élite.
For we all face death, and a natural death is what they are least
prepared to face.
We are all human, and that is our only damning fault, our only saving
grace.
Expose their deviance and their acts against us all, their race.
Then let their empires fall, and their crimes leave, in time, their
trace.
FWIW
M.
Tom H
wrote:
And there he almost put his finger on it.
"The problem is not 'America'. The problem is the people who run
America, and they are not 'Americans' as such. These are those who
have put down roots here for their own commercial and racial ends,
which are very different from simply living and helping others.
We are talking about those who help themselves and their own to
the exclusion of all others.
They dominate the world of finance, and through it acquire all the
industries, including all the trash food and drink industries by which
to glut us all to death. They have the armaments industries, and they
dominate the political machinery worldwide by which to manipulate
our countries to wars, in which they arm both sides to kill each
other. They pay all our presidents and bribe them for their interests
to take total control of all our nations, of which they then rob us of
our natural resources.
They do this worldwide, as you could see if you would only look.
But then they also dominate all our media, including the educational
material of our children, by which they deliberately stupefy us so
that we cannot see and cannot recognize.
They are a blight on our species and on the planet, and by one means
or another must be annulled."
- E.J.Leitner
Michael O'Neill
<snip>
Never mind. Here it is, one one like it:
http://www.mediamonitors.net/robertmbowman1.html
M.
DemSoc
I bet not.
Bet you never read Robert Macnamra's book on vietnam.
"Michael O'Neill" <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message
news:4097CE67...@indigo.ie...
DemSoc
America is not like islam.
Islam has the doctrine of imperialism and arab monoculture.
"Michael O'Neill" <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message
news:4098036E...@indigo.ie...
Michael O'Neill
> Well stop labeling americans for what a few do.
Would that be why I posted. these lines?
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They pay for the wars with their taxes. A balanced slate.
They pay for the wars with their children's lives and their own lives and
shattered families. They learn to hate.
Their crime is that they support the international corporations and the
military complexes that give them jobs.
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Why so it was. Were you so badly educated you couldn't read those lines
and understand their meaning? Is there some untruth written there?
No, there is not.
Now get off your arse and stop them doing it or you'll deserve every
lable that gets pasted on you.
> America is not like islam.
Thank goodness for that.
> Islam has the doctrine of imperialism and arab monoculture.
BLAM!
That was my Irony Detector! It just blew out the south wall! I have to go
repair it before your next post! 'Bye!
M.
greg
>
> And there he almost put his finger on it.
>
> "The problem is not 'America'. The problem is the people who run
> America, and they are not 'Americans' as such. These are those who
> have put down roots here for their own commercial and racial ends,
> which are very different from simply living and helping others.
>
> We are talking about those who help themselves and their own to
> the exclusion of all others.
>
> They dominate the world of finance, and through it acquire all the
> industries, including all the trash food and drink industries by which
> to glut us all to death. They have the armaments industries, and they
> dominate the political machinery worldwide by which to manipulate
> our countries to wars, in which they arm both sides to kill each
> other. They pay all our presidents and bribe them for their interests
> to take total control of all our nations, of which they then rob us of
> our natural resources.
>
> They do this worldwide, as you could see if you would only look.
> But then they also dominate all our media, including the educational
> material of our children, by which they deliberately stupefy us so
> that we cannot see and cannot recognize.
>
> They are a blight on our species and on the planet, and by one means
> or another must be annulled."
The true enemy within.
>
> - E.J.Leitner
>
>
>