Che Predicts....
Che Guava
Essential disclaimers:
1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
want one.
2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
The easy ones first...
One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
- bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
- Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
The fatal outcome..
Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
Victoria,
but not enough in NSW to win government.
Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
GST on food blocked in the senate.
TELSTRA sale ditto.
Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
probably
put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
Che
----------------------
GST: if you lose your income..you still get to pay tax.
Antony C
and fucking it up for the other's who voted for the Government.
Remember what the Senates REAL job is??????????????
Go do your home work...
Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
>Che Predicts....
>
>Essential disclaimers:
>1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
>want one.
>
>2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
>
>
>The easy ones first...
>
>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
>
>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
>
No One Nation will soon, Democrates are just a bunch of sell outs to the
ALP.
Just look at C...
>
>
>The fatal outcome..
>
>Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
No Crime there the ALP takes preferences from extream Left groups like the
Greens etc
Nothing wrong with the Left groups sticking together & Right one's doing the
same....
Hipocracy from the Left... <g>
>Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
>Victoria,
>but not enough in NSW to win government.
>Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
>GST on food blocked in the senate.
Double dissolusion...
THERE IS TAX ON FOOD NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY SCRAP IT?????????????????????
>TELSTRA sale ditto.
>Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
>Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
More a reason to vote the Liberals back in, we won't join the Socialist NWO
then....
If we do we won't sign our soul away...
>
>I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
>probably
>put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
Guess you voted for the last mob who sent Victoria broke and are not
thankfull Jeff fixed the econemy up.
Only if we had Jeff in NSW, Carr sucks donkey balls and has ruined this
state... ask anyone here they all hate him........
Guess he has the qualifications to run for Federal Politics, all the failed
ALP state leaders end up down there :)
rexist
Democreeps to hold balance of power! hello GST!
i hope NOT if so i'm leaving for New Zealand
New prediction Democreeps to lose all their seats,
will the democreeps gain a seat in the federal parliment this time, never.
Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
>Che Predicts....
>
>Essential disclaimers:
>1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
>want one.
>
>2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
>
>
>The easy ones first...
>
>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
>
>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
>
>
>
>The fatal outcome...
Russell Dovey
20:24:35 +1000, "Antony C" <mino...@zip.com.au> threw paint at a
canvas, and came up with:
>Sorry a Mandate isn't getting a 3% Vote from the People
>and fucking it up for the other's who voted for the Government.
>
>Remember what the Senates REAL job is??????????????
>Go do your home work...
>
>Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
>>Che Predicts....
>>
>>Essential disclaimers:
>>1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
>> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
>>want one.
>>
>>2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
>>
>>
>>The easy ones first...
>>
>>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
>>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
>> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
>> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
>>
>>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
>>
>No One Nation will soon,
No, the polls are teliing us another story. Pauline has almost no hope
of polling the 40 to 50% she needs to win Blair, and ON is polling 8%
nationally. For a senate seat, you need 14%. Nuff said.
> Democrates are just a bunch of sell outs to the
>ALP.
The Democrats support a GST. Labor has based their whole campaign on
fighting the GST.
>Just look at C...
>
>>
>>
>>The fatal outcome..
>>
>>Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
>
>
>No Crime there the ALP takes preferences from extream Left groups like the
>Greens etc
Which I have no problem with.
>
>Nothing wrong with the Left groups sticking together & Right one's doing the
>same....
>Hipocracy from the Left... <g>
Short-sightedness and idiocy from the loony right...
>
>>Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
>>Victoria,
>>but not enough in NSW to win government.
>>Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
>>GST on food blocked in the senate.
>
>Double dissolusion...
Yeah right. If Howard was that stupid, Beazley would be our next Prime
Minister.
>
>THERE IS TAX ON FOOD NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not essential food.
>WHY SCRAP IT?????????????????????
>
>>TELSTRA sale ditto.
>>Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
>>Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
>
>More a reason to vote the Liberals back in, we won't join the Socialist NWO
>then....
Well, what he's saying is that unemployment will hit double figures
under the Coalition.
>If we do we won't sign our soul away...
>
>>
>>I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
>>probably
>>put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
>
>
>Guess you voted for the last mob who sent Victoria broke and are not
>thankfull Jeff fixed the econemy up.
Yeah, I'm sure the people in hospitals all over Victoria are going
"Thanks Jeff"
>Only if we had Jeff in NSW, Carr sucks donkey balls and has ruined this
>state... ask anyone here they all hate him........
>
>Guess he has the qualifications to run for Federal Politics, all the failed
>ALP state leaders end up down there :)
>
>>
>>
>>Che
>>----------------------
>>GST: if you lose your income..you still get to pay tax.
>
>
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Fight for what you believe in!
"The most beautiful experience we can have is the
mysterious." - Albert Einstein.
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"Uh, I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get all
those computers to fail all at the same time?"
Russell "Not Just For Lepers Any More" Dovey, Australia.
ICQ:11780873 mailto:st...@dynamite.com.au
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Tony Hancock
Dovey) wrote:
>On the auspicious and highly spiritual date of Thu, 1 Oct 1998
>20:24:35 +1000, "Antony C" <mino...@zip.com.au> threw paint at a
>canvas, and came up with:
[snip]
>>Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
>>>Che Predicts....
[snip]
>>>The easy ones first...
>>>
>>>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
>>>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
>>> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
>>> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
>>>
>>>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
>>>
>>No One Nation will soon,
>
>No, the polls are teliing us another story. Pauline has almost no hope
>of polling the 40 to 50% she needs to win Blair, and ON is polling 8%
>nationally. For a senate seat, you need 14%. Nuff said.
Don't rely too much on polls Russ. The polls before the QLD election
were way off. Given the intimidation directed at ON supporters don't
be surprised if the pre-election polls underestimate the true level of
support.
.
Tomorrows poll is the only poll that counts.
Cheers
Tony Hancock
Matt McLeod
>Sorry a Mandate isn't getting a 3% Vote from the People
>and fucking it up for the other's who voted for the Government.
It is when you consider that the 3% (or whatever they end up getting)
is useless on it's own. It has to be co-ordinated with around
47% to be of any use.
So, while the Democrats couldn't argue "We have a mandate!", they
can certainly argue "The Senate has a mandate, and a majority of
the Senate is against the GST". Assuming for a moment that a
majority of the Senate is against, of course.
>Remember what the Senates REAL job is??????????????
>Go do your home work...
To represent the States. But then the REAL job of the Reps
is to represent the electorate, and they haven't been doing
much of that for years. We all know that both Senators and
MHR's represent their Party, not their electorate.
On to the predictions...
>Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
>>Che Predicts....
>>
>>Essential disclaimers:
>>1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
>> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
>>want one.
>>
>>2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
>>
>>
>>The easy ones first...
>>
>>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
>>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
>> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
>> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
>>
>>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
>>
>No One Nation will soon, Democrates are just a bunch of sell outs to the
>ALP.
>Just look at C...
I'm guessing that ON will pick up a Senate spot or two, but nothing
in the Reps - scoring seats in the Reps requires either a really big
national support level (plus a large flow of preferences), or high
levels of localized support (probably with preferences again).
I'm not convinced that ON has either (their localized support
is split with the Nationals).
That will most likely leave the Democrats with the balance of
power mid next year.
>>The fatal outcome..
>>
>>Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
>
>No Crime there the ALP takes preferences from extream Left groups like the
>Greens etc
Well... You can't really control who gives you preferences, and only
a lunatic would try. :-)
>Nothing wrong with the Left groups sticking together & Right one's doing the
>same....
>Hipocracy from the Left... <g>
>
>>Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
>>Victoria,
>>but not enough in NSW to win government.
>>Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
>>GST on food blocked in the senate.
>
>Double dissolusion...
>
>THERE IS TAX ON FOOD NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>WHY SCRAP IT?????????????????????
There's some tax on some food, yes. The point at which it is levied
is the important bit IMO (WST is levied on the wholesale price,
GST on the retail price - so it is perfectly possible for the WST
on an item, while being at a higher %age rate, to have a lower
dollar value than GST on the same item - depends a lot on how high
the WST rate on that item is, and how big a difference there is
between the wholesale and retail prices).
IMO it is much more likely that the Liberals will do a deal with
the Democrats, and get the GST through sans basic food.
As to the ALP and NSW - Bob Carr is Kim Beazley's biggest
liability IMO. Gareth is merely amusing, Carr outright
pisses off a lot of people.
(Can anyone tell that I'd vote for One Nation if I thought
it'd help finish off Carr?)
>>TELSTRA sale ditto.
>>Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
>>Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
>
>More a reason to vote the Liberals back in, we won't join the Socialist NWO
>then....
>If we do we won't sign our soul away...
>
>>
>>I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
>>probably
>>put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
>
>
>Guess you voted for the last mob who sent Victoria broke and are not
>thankfull Jeff fixed the econemy up.
>Only if we had Jeff in NSW, Carr sucks donkey balls and has ruined this
>state... ask anyone here they all hate him........
The problem with Carr is that he's so two-faced. He pretends to
be a leftie, but he's really more like Kennet. I may not like everything
Kennet has done, but at least he isn't pretending to be someone else.
>Guess he has the qualifications to run for Federal Politics, all the failed
>ALP state leaders end up down there :)
As do Liberal ones. Or have you forgotten about Jumpin' John Fahey?
--
Matt McLeod "A baseball cap and a love of rap
A BOFH for all seasons might need sympathy but still
<m...@natasha.apana.org.au> possibly a homeboy could be
http://203.56.191.14/~mjm/ a dickhead pure and simple?"
TISM
Che Guava
but I would save your energy.
My post was meant to be a stick-your-neck-out prediction,
most of the media pundits had been reluctant to have a go..
You would have to be a humourless prick like "Minotaur" to treat
it as an argument and pick a fight.
I'm suffering from pre-election ennui, someone has to take the long
view.
I have this sense of foreboding, but the dye is pretty much cast.
I don't think we are going to be as relaxed and comfortable for the next
three years as we have been for the last three ;-)
Che
--------------------
Glass-half-full observations:
One Nation has flushed all the snakes...now we know who they are.
Better to have Racism in the open. Like ON itself, when people see it in
all its
pustulence, they will turn away.
I have never seen such enthusiasm for politics among young people as the
anti-iracism
movement.
As with environmental issues, the demographics for progressive reform
movements is positive.
But where do all the decent ON supporters, the ones who hate economic
rationalism, the GST,
the gutting of rural Australia, selling TELSTRA, etc ...turn to now?
They hated the coalition for whats been done to them, but look like
re-electing them anyway.
funny world eh?
Russell Dovey wrote:
>
> On the auspicious and highly spiritual date of Thu, 1 Oct 1998
> 20:24:35 +1000, "Antony C" <mino...@zip.com.au> threw paint at a
> canvas, and came up with:
>
> >Sorry a Mandate isn't getting a 3% Vote from the People
> >and fucking it up for the other's who voted for the Government.
> >
> >Remember what the Senates REAL job is??????????????
> >Go do your home work...
> >
> >Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
> >>Che Predicts....
> >>
> >>Essential disclaimers:
> >>1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
> >> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
> >>want one.
> >>
> >>2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>The easy ones first...
> >>
> >>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
> >>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
> >> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
> >> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
> >>
> >>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
> >>
> >No One Nation will soon,
>
> No, the polls are teliing us another story. Pauline has almost no hope
> of polling the 40 to 50% she needs to win Blair, and ON is polling 8%
> nationally. For a senate seat, you need 14%. Nuff said.
>
> > Democrates are just a bunch of sell outs to the
> >ALP.
>
> The Democrats support a GST. Labor has based their whole campaign on
> fighting the GST.
>
> >Just look at C...
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>The fatal outcome..
> >>
> >>Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
> >
> >
> >No Crime there the ALP takes preferences from extream Left groups like the
> >Greens etc
>
> Which I have no problem with.
>
> >
> >Nothing wrong with the Left groups sticking together & Right one's doing the
> >same....
> >Hipocracy from the Left... <g>
>
> Short-sightedness and idiocy from the loony right...
>
> >
> >>Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
> >>Victoria,
> >>but not enough in NSW to win government.
> >>Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
> >>GST on food blocked in the senate.
> >
> >Double dissolusion...
>
> Yeah right. If Howard was that stupid, Beazley would be our next Prime
> Minister.
>
> >
> >THERE IS TAX ON FOOD NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Not essential food.
>
> >WHY SCRAP IT?????????????????????
> >
> >>TELSTRA sale ditto.
> >>Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
> >>Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
> >
> >More a reason to vote the Liberals back in, we won't join the Socialist NWO
> >then....
>
> Well, what he's saying is that unemployment will hit double figures
> under the Coalition.
>
> >If we do we won't sign our soul away...
> >
> >>
> >>I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
> >>probably
> >>put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
> >
> >
> >Guess you voted for the last mob who sent Victoria broke and are not
> >thankfull Jeff fixed the econemy up.
>
> Yeah, I'm sure the people in hospitals all over Victoria are going
> "Thanks Jeff"
>
> >Only if we had Jeff in NSW, Carr sucks donkey balls and has ruined this
> >state... ask anyone here they all hate him........
> >
> >Guess he has the qualifications to run for Federal Politics, all the failed
> >ALP state leaders end up down there :)
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Che
> >>----------------------
> >>GST: if you lose your income..you still get to pay tax.
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Fight for what you believe in!
>
> "The most beautiful experience we can have is the
> mysterious." - Albert Einstein.
>
> "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
> "Uh, I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get all
> those computers to fail all at the same time?"
>
> Russell "Not Just For Lepers Any More" Dovey, Australia.
> ICQ:11780873 mailto:st...@dynamite.com.au
> --------------------------------------------------------
--
"Where there is no vision, the people perish." - Proverbs 29:18
che_...@my-dejanews.com
You seem to have me confused with someone else,
You are not the first to make this mistake..in the past I have been
mistaken for an incredibly handsome, dashing ladies man who helped
free opressed people from Latin American dictatorships, until hunted
down and shot by agents of american imperialism.
But that is not me, as anyone who has mastered spelling can tell you.
>
> Democreeps to hold balance of power! hello GST!
> i hope NOT if so i'm leaving for New Zealand
Would you like a ride to the airport? ;-)
> New prediction Democreeps to lose all their seats,
As your leaving, care to bet your house?
Che GUAVA (you would think a fruit-cake could read that)
> will the democreeps gain a seat in the federal parliment this time, never.
> Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
> >Che Predicts....
> >
> >Essential disclaimers:
> >1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
> > eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
> >want one.
> >
> >2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
> >
> >
> >The easy ones first...
> >
> >One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
> >Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
> > - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
> > - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
> >
> >Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
> >
> >
> >
> >The fatal outcome...
>
>
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Matt McLeod <m...@natasha.apana.org.au> wrote in article
<6v1ubm$emq$1...@attila.apana.org.au>...
> That will most likely leave the Democrats with the balance of
> power mid next year.
Perhaps even earlier Matt. Due to a vagary in our electoral system,
senators from the Territories take their seats in the first session of
Parliament after the election, not in July like the rest. So, if Rick
Farley (the Democrat candidate) wins (meaning Margaret Reid loses her
Liberal spot), the Democrats will have the balance of power right away.
Jack
Kym HORSELL
>Sorry a Mandate isn't getting a 3% Vote from the People
>and fucking it up for the other's who voted for the Government.
>Remember what the Senates REAL job is??????????????
Refusing supply?
>Go do your home work...
...
--
R. Kym Horsell
KHor...@EE.LaTrobe.EDU.AU K...@CS.Binghamton.EDU
http://www.ee.latrobe.edu.au/~khorsell http://cs.binghamton.edu/~kym
rexist
pick me up at 8:00pm my plane leaves at 9:00 and i don't want to miss it or
those pesky american agents might be mad.
Matt McLeod
Jack Green <jack_...@start.com.au> wrote:
>Matt McLeod <m...@natasha.apana.org.au> wrote in article
><6v1ubm$emq$1...@attila.apana.org.au>...
>
>> power mid next year.
>
>senators from the Territories take their seats in the first session of
>Parliament after the election, not in July like the rest. So, if Rick
>Farley (the Democrat candidate) wins (meaning Margaret Reid loses her
>Liberal spot), the Democrats will have the balance of power right away.
Yes, I'm aware of this, but it's still a bit of a long shot. If
it works, then Howard is not going to be a happy camper, but despite
all the "if we win by 1 seat in the Reps, the Senate oughta do
whatever we tell them" rubbish, he'll probably end up doing a deal
with the Dems and getting the GST through.
Hm. Perhaps the refusal to consider exempt food from the GST is
part of an ambit claim? Makes a certain amount of sense, actually.
--
Matt McLeod "Moving to Montana soon
A BOFH for all seasons Gonna be a dental floss tycoon"
<m...@natasha.apana.org.au> FZ
http://203.56.191.14/~mjm/
Bannor
Antony C wrote in message <36135...@139.134.5.33>...
>Sorry a Mandate isn't getting a 3% Vote from the People
>and fucking it up for the other's who voted for the Government.
>
>Remember what the Senates REAL job is??????????????
Actually people who have done thier homework know better than u what the
senate is all abought.
>Che Guava wrote in message <3612D5...@yahoo.com>...
>>Che Predicts....
>>
>>Essential disclaimers:
>>1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
>> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
>>want one.
>>
>>2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
>>
>>
>>The easy ones first...
>>
>>One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
>>Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
>> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
>> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
>>
>>Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
>>
I agree che 9 or 10 seats maybe maybe 11 but odds against.
>No One Nation will soon, Democrates are just a bunch of sell outs to the
>ALP.
>Just look at C...
>
>>
>>
>>The fatal outcome..
>>
>>Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
the right honerable right and far right !!
>
>
>No Crime there the ALP takes preferences from extream Left groups like the
>Greens etc
hahahah another political ignorant 8)
>Nothing wrong with the Left groups sticking together & Right one's doing
the
>same....
>Hipocracy from the Left... <g>
you have only just come to that conclusion?
>
>>Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
>>Victoria,
>>but not enough in NSW to win government.
>>Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
>>GST on food blocked in the senate.
agreed unless they get a Firming of the labor vote in NSW, if they win
5 seats in NSW
they have won the election - maybe.
>
>Double dissolusion...
>
Yes and the Liberal gov will find the mandate of the people on a GST is
NO FOOD
>THERE IS TAX ON FOOD NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>WHY SCRAP IT?????????????????????
>
>>TELSTRA sale ditto.
>>Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
>>Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
>
sounds like 1979 all over again
>More a reason to vote the Liberals back in, we won't join the Socialist NWO
>then....
>If we do we won't sign our soul away...
dont worry abought your soul , worry abought your brain
>>
>>I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
>>probably
>>put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
>
>
>Guess you voted for the last mob who sent Victoria broke and are not
>thankfull Jeff fixed the econemy up.
>Only if we had Jeff in NSW, Carr sucks donkey balls and has ruined this
>state... ask anyone here they all hate him........
JEFF FOR PM!!
>
>Guess he has the qualifications to run for Federal Politics, all the failed
>ALP state leaders end up down there :)
always room at the top for people who have experience 8). the libs dont
want thiers,, they allready have thier full quota of failed lawyers .
che_...@my-dejanews.com
molo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Che Predicts....
The story so far:
>
> Essential disclaimers:
> 1. A hunch is not an endorsement,
> eg: I may suspect a global economic meltdown is imminent, I don't
> want one.
>
> 2. Its just a punt, no one can second guess The People ;-)
>
> The easy ones first...
>
> One Nation fails nationally. No federal seats.
Ding Dong...its not Avon calling :-)
> Pauline Hanson exits parliament.
I have a bankrupt chippery in Victoria going cheap.
Nah..she has a better offer from a Bankok whorehouse ;-)
> - bitter infighting and recrimination rends the remnants.
watch this space
> - Nationals reclaim the void (their natural constituency).
I even surprised myself with this one
(Hey rural constituency, we thought you were serious about not wanting
economic rationalism, hope you enjoy the unrestrained globalisation of
the farming sector, loss of rural services, record youth unemployment,
and more expensive, private, telecommunications )
>
> Democrats to hold the balance of power (and mandate :-) in the senate.
The people, united, will never be defeated...
>
> The fatal outcome..
>
> Coalition returned with a slim majority, on preferences from One Nation.
> Beazley gains an additional (oh lets say) 24 seats; in Tasmania,
> Victoria,
> but not enough in NSW to win government.
On the money...the media says a 6-12 majority(they have the benefit of
hindsight)
The bit I really missed was that the ALP could win the majority of the
people but lose the election. But big boys don't sook..the Democrats and
ALP can use their Senate mandate to implement the will of the people. ;-)
Further counting required:
> Rick Farley takes vital Canberra Senate seat.
> GST on food blocked in the senate.
> TELSTRA sale ditto.
> Howard replaced by Costello as leader when the global recession bites.
> Unemployment hits double figures during 1999.
>
> I could be wrong, it happens; if the future was predictable i would
> probably
> put my head in the oven...then again...I live in Victoria }B-[
>
> Che
> ----------------------
> GST: if you lose your income..you still get to pay tax.
>
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Jack Green
> In article <01bdede5$e9f3bac0$ca4866cb@frank>,
> Jack Green <jack_...@start.com.au> wrote:
> >Matt McLeod <m...@natasha.apana.org.au> wrote in article
> ><6v1ubm$emq$1...@attila.apana.org.au>...
> >
> >> power mid next year.
> >
> >senators from the Territories take their seats in the first session of
> >Parliament after the election, not in July like the rest. So, if Rick
> >Farley (the Democrat candidate) wins (meaning Margaret Reid loses her
> >Liberal spot), the Democrats will have the balance of power right away.
>
> Yes, I'm aware of this, but it's still a bit of a long shot. If
> it works, then Howard is not going to be a happy camper, but despite
> all the "if we win by 1 seat in the Reps, the Senate oughta do
> whatever we tell them" rubbish, he'll probably end up doing a deal
> with the Dems and getting the GST through.
>
> Hm. Perhaps the refusal to consider exempt food from the GST is
> part of an ambit claim? Makes a certain amount of sense, actually.
I guess if we are going to have to have this execrable tax, I for one would
love to see food (and maybe a few other items) exempt. Even that hard as
nails bitch Maggie Thatcher didn't slug the poor in Britain with that.
Jack
Matt McLeod
>> Hm. Perhaps the refusal to consider exempt food from the GST is
>> part of an ambit claim? Makes a certain amount of sense, actually.
>
>I guess if we are going to have to have this execrable tax, I for one would
>love to see food (and maybe a few other items) exempt. Even that hard as
>nails bitch Maggie Thatcher didn't slug the poor in Britain with that.
Naturally. She opted for a poll tax instead. :-)
--
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Franc Zabkar
composed:
>Democreeps to hold balance of power! hello GST!
>i hope NOT if so i'm leaving for New Zealand
Out of the GST frying pan into the GST fire?
-- Franc Zabkar
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Matt McLeod
>On 4 Oct 1998 04:52:04 GMT, Matt McLeod <mrm...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>In article <01bdee59$02a4d9a0$LocalHost@frank>,
>>Jack Green <jack_...@start.com.au> wrote:
>>>Matt McLeod <m...@natasha.apana.org.au> wrote in article
>>><6v2fgc$kd$1...@attila.apana.org.au>...
>>>> Hm. Perhaps the refusal to consider exempt food from the GST is
>>>> part of an ambit claim? Makes a certain amount of sense, actually.
>>>
>>>I guess if we are going to have to have this execrable tax, I for one would
>>>love to see food (and maybe a few other items) exempt. Even that hard as
>>>nails bitch Maggie Thatcher didn't slug the poor in Britain with that.
>>
>>Naturally. She opted for a poll tax instead. :-)
>
>
>Next you'll be telling him that the main reason the UK have problems
>with their VAT is that food is not included.
Sounds rather unlikely to me. Their main problem with their VAT
(as will most likely be the case with our GST) is that an awful
lot of people will do whatever they can to dodge it. It is,
after all, something of a national pastime - I wonder if we can
get it included in the Olympics?
--
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A BOFH for all seasons You're only as good as your fans."
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ralph buttigieg
Matt McLeod wrote in message <6v883f$r...@enews3.newsguy.com>...
>In article <361753c4.34005723@news-server>, Geoff <lo...@my.sig> wrote:
>>On 4 Oct 1998 04:52:04 GMT, Matt McLeod <mrm...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>In article <01bdee59$02a4d9a0$LocalHost@frank>,
>>>Jack Green <jack_...@start.com.au> wrote:
>>>>Matt McLeod <m...@natasha.apana.org.au> wrote in article
>>>><6v2fgc$kd$1...@attila.apana.org.au>...
>>>>> Hm. Perhaps the refusal to consider exempt food from the GST is
>>>>> part of an ambit claim? Makes a certain amount of sense, actually.
>>>>
>>>>I guess if we are going to have to have this execrable tax, I for one
would
>>>>love to see food (and maybe a few other items) exempt. Even that hard as
>>>>nails bitch Maggie Thatcher didn't slug the poor in Britain with that.
>>>
>>>Naturally. She opted for a poll tax instead. :-)
>>
>>Stop it, Matt! You'll upset Jack's fantasies.
>>
>>Next you'll be telling him that the main reason the UK have problems
>>with their VAT is that food is not included.
>
>Sounds rather unlikely to me. Their main problem with their VAT
>(as will most likely be the case with our GST) is that an awful
>lot of people will do whatever they can to dodge it. It is,
>after all, something of a national pastime - I wonder if we can
>get it included in the Olympics?
>
When it comes to VAT, food and Europe remember Europe already has a defacto
tax on food called the Common Agricultural Policy. This makes food more
expensive. It would be a bit much even for the European welfare state to
impose another tax on food.
ta
Ralph