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Ozix
Jun 2, 2022, 6:38:17 AM6/2/22
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But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was obvious
that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay warm
while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay warm
while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
Daniel65
Jun 2, 2022, 8:08:22 AM6/2/22
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Ozix wrote on 2/6/22 8:38 pm:
While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You see
pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them, heading off
from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having paid just cents
per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic, N.S.W., S.A. Govt.
lease one of these ships to bring some gas over here??
It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
--
Daniel
pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them, heading off
from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having paid just cents
per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic, N.S.W., S.A. Govt.
lease one of these ships to bring some gas over here??
It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
--
Daniel
Rod Speed
Jun 2, 2022, 3:01:28 PM6/2/22
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Ozix <ozix...@yahoo.com> wrote
> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was obvious
> that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
Russian gas has not been blacklisted.
> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was obvious
> that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
Rod Speed
Jun 2, 2022, 3:03:44 PM6/2/22
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Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Ozix wrote
>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
> While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You see
> pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them, heading off
> from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having paid just cents
> per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic, N.S.W., S.A. Govt.
> lease one of these ships to bring some gas over here??
They don't get to grab any gas they want.
> It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
Unlikely given that those who have the gas are selling it at world prices.
> Ozix wrote
>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
> While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You see
> pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them, heading off
> from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having paid just cents
> per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic, N.S.W., S.A. Govt.
> lease one of these ships to bring some gas over here??
> It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
Trevor Wilson
Jun 2, 2022, 4:52:08 PM6/2/22
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people don't use MUCH more efficient reverse cycle heat pumps for
heating and cooling is a complete mystery to me.
Rod Speed
Jun 2, 2022, 7:41:14 PM6/2/22
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Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Why people don't use MUCH more efficient reverse cycle heatpumps for
ongoing maintenance costs are much higher.
> Ozix wrote
>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
> The writing has been on the wall for a long time for fossil fuels.
That isn't the reason for the current hikes.
> Why people don't use MUCH more efficient reverse cycle heatpumps for
> heating and cooling is a complete mystery to me.
Because the capital cost is much higher and the
ongoing maintenance costs are much higher.
Trevor Wilson
Jun 2, 2022, 8:33:32 PM6/2/22
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On 3/06/2022 9:41 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Ozix wrote
>
>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>
>> The writing has been on the wall for a long time for fossil fuels.
>
> That isn't the reason for the current hikes.
**It's a small part of the reason. Fossil fuels will, eventually, be
> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Ozix wrote
>
>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>
>> The writing has been on the wall for a long time for fossil fuels.
>
> That isn't the reason for the current hikes.
legislated out of existence. Much smarter to begin alternative
arrangements now.
>
>> Why people don't use MUCH more efficient reverse cycle heatpumps for
>> heating and cooling is a complete mystery to me.
>
> Because the capital cost is much higher and the
> ongoing maintenance costs are much higher.
I paid $2,500.00 for my 7kW, inverter air con (Installed) 15 years ago.
COP and EER are approximately 4:1. It heats and cools my entire home
easily. After an initial hit for 30 mins at high power, it drops down to
around 750 ~ 800Watts of power consumption. VERY efficient. Maintenance
has been the odd cleaning of twigs from the outdoor unit and cleaning
the filters on the indoor one. Cost = $0.00. Running costs are
considerably lower than gas heating and VASTLY lower than resistive
heating. AND I get cooling in the Summer. Try that with gas. Bet you can't.
AND, since there is no town gas in my area, I would have to go with LPG.
Gas is for dummies.
Rod Speed
Jun 2, 2022, 10:11:24 PM6/2/22
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Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Fossil fuels will, eventually, be legislated out of existence.
Bullshit.
> Much smarter to begin alternative arrangements now.
Bullshit.
>>> Why people don't use MUCH more efficient reverse cycle heatpumps for
>>> heating and cooling is a complete mystery to me.
>> Because the capital cost is much higher and the
>> ongoing maintenance costs are much higher.
> Capital costs higher?
Fraid so.
> Lemme see:
> I paid $2,500.00 for my 7kW, inverter air con (Installed) 15 years ago.
Pity that fan heaters cost a hell of a lot less than that.
> COP and EER are approximately 4:1. It heats and cools my entire home
> easily.
Not true for most houses.
> After an initial hit for 30 mins at high power, it dropsdown to around
> VERY efficient. Maintenance has been the odd cleaning of twigs from the
> outdoor unit and cleaning the filters on the indoor one. Cost = $0.00.
The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'
> Running costs are considerably lower than gas heating and VASTLY lower
> than resistive heating. AND I get cooling in the Summer. Try that with
> gas. Bet you can't.
But many of us can use evaporative coolers which chost fuck all to run.
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>> The writing has been on the wall for a long time for fossil fuels.
>> That isn't the reason for the current hikes.
>> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>> The writing has been on the wall for a long time for fossil fuels.
>> That isn't the reason for the current hikes.
> It's a small part of the reason.
Bullshit.
> Fossil fuels will, eventually, be legislated out of existence.
> Much smarter to begin alternative arrangements now.
>>> Why people don't use MUCH more efficient reverse cycle heatpumps for
>>> heating and cooling is a complete mystery to me.
>> Because the capital cost is much higher and the
>> ongoing maintenance costs are much higher.
Fraid so.
> Lemme see:
> I paid $2,500.00 for my 7kW, inverter air con (Installed) 15 years ago.
> COP and EER are approximately 4:1. It heats and cools my entire home
> easily.
> After an initial hit for 30 mins at high power, it dropsdown to around
> 750 ~ 800Watts of power consumption.
Not true for most houses.
> VERY efficient. Maintenance has been the odd cleaning of twigs from the
> outdoor unit and cleaning the filters on the indoor one. Cost = $0.00.
> Running costs are considerably lower than gas heating and VASTLY lower
> than resistive heating. AND I get cooling in the Summer. Try that with
> gas. Bet you can't.
Daniel65
Jun 3, 2022, 8:31:21 AM6/3/22
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Rod Speed wrote on 3/6/22 5:03 am:
probably be cheaper than what we're paying at the moment.
--
Daniel
> Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote
>> Ozix wrote
>
>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>
>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will
>>> stay warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>
>> While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You
>> see pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them,
>> heading off from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having
>> paid just cents per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic,
>> N.S.W., S.A. Govt. lease one of these ships to bring some gas over
>> here??
>
> They don't get to grab any gas they want.
Correct .... but nothing stopping them be purchasers!!
>> Ozix wrote
>
>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>
>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will
>>> stay warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>
>> While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You
>> see pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them,
>> heading off from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having
>> paid just cents per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic,
>> N.S.W., S.A. Govt. lease one of these ships to bring some gas over
>> here??
>
> They don't get to grab any gas they want.
>
>> It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
>
> Unlikely given that those who have the gas are selling it at world
> prices.
Correct .... but, even allowing for the shipping costs, it would still
>> It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
>
> Unlikely given that those who have the gas are selling it at world
> prices.
probably be cheaper than what we're paying at the moment.
--
Daniel
Rod Speed
Jun 3, 2022, 12:34:14 PM6/3/22
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Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
And they would obviously have to pay current very high prices for that gas
too.
>>> It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
>> Unlikely given that those who have the gas are selling it at world
>> prices.
> Correct .... but, even allowing for the shipping costs, it would still
> probably be cheaper than what we're paying at the moment.
Wrong, as always. If that was true, we'd be doing that, stupid.
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will
>>>> stay warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>
>>> While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You
>>> see pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them,
>>> heading off from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having
>>> paid just cents per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic,
>>> N.S.W., S.A. Govt. lease one of these ships to bring some gas over
>>> here??
>> They don't get to grab any gas they want.
> Correct .... but nothing stopping them be purchasers!!
That's less clear given the current contracts!!
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will
>>>> stay warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>
>>> While watching the T.V. news on this, it occurred to me .... You
>>> see pictures of those ships with the HUGE ball tanks on them,
>>> heading off from the North West Cape to Japan, or wherever, having
>>> paid just cents per Gigalitre or some such. .... Why don't the Vic,
>>> N.S.W., S.A. Govt. lease one of these ships to bring some gas over
>>> here??
>> They don't get to grab any gas they want.
> Correct .... but nothing stopping them be purchasers!!
And they would obviously have to pay current very high prices for that gas
too.
>>> It would probably work out cheaper at the moment!!
>> Unlikely given that those who have the gas are selling it at world
>> prices.
> Correct .... but, even allowing for the shipping costs, it would still
> probably be cheaper than what we're paying at the moment.
McCoy
Jun 5, 2022, 6:23:02 AM6/5/22
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What an economic anomaly !!!!! Someone is ripping off the Australian consumers!!!
Whatever the "valid reasons" or excuses these businessmen have cooked up for the anomaly,
it's time Labor look into this and legislate to ensure these excuses they have cooked up or devised become illegal !!!
br
Jun 22, 2022, 9:14:16 PM6/22/22
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be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
nose for the little that we choose to export.
Rod Speed
Jun 22, 2022, 10:06:23 PM6/22/22
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br <automa...@gmail.com> wrote
And the bulk of the exporting is being done by Chevron, yanks.
Fuckem.
Fuckem.
Petzl
Jun 23, 2022, 1:31:26 AM6/23/22
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with Israel.
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Petzl
If voting made any difference,
They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain
Trevor Wilson
Jun 23, 2022, 4:35:19 PM6/23/22
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cunt.
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Ördög
Jun 23, 2022, 7:24:19 PM6/23/22
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br wrote:
/snip/
> The majority of Australian gas should
> be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
> nose for the little that we choose to export.
That boat has sailed long ago.
Such thing is only possibly if all resources and related industries
remain in public hands. ... Or at least under some sort of rational
government control.
Under neo-liberals and conservative capitalist libertarians run
governments this current outcome is unavoidably what you get.
Viva la limitless unbridled capitalist robber-baron economy!
At least you could sleep well knowing that those multinational
corporations and their billionaire owners in this sector would have no
problems financing their lovely collections of private jets and
super-luxury yachts within the foreseeable future. Nothing is more
important than that.
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/snip/
> The majority of Australian gas should
> be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
> nose for the little that we choose to export.
Such thing is only possibly if all resources and related industries
remain in public hands. ... Or at least under some sort of rational
government control.
Under neo-liberals and conservative capitalist libertarians run
governments this current outcome is unavoidably what you get.
Viva la limitless unbridled capitalist robber-baron economy!
At least you could sleep well knowing that those multinational
corporations and their billionaire owners in this sector would have no
problems financing their lovely collections of private jets and
super-luxury yachts within the foreseeable future. Nothing is more
important than that.
--
Your ever vigilant newsgroup devil
Rod Speed
Jun 23, 2022, 7:26:11 PM6/23/22
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Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Howard is a cunt.
You are a pig ignorant fuckwit.
> Rod Speed wrote
>> br <automa...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>> He has got to be right about that. The majority of Australian gas
>>> should be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay
>>> through the nose for the little that we choose to export.
>> And the bulk of the exporting is being done by Chevron, yanks.
>> Fuckem.
>> br <automa...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>> He has got to be right about that. The majority of Australian gas
>>> should be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay
>>> through the nose for the little that we choose to export.
>> And the bulk of the exporting is being done by Chevron, yanks.
>> Fuckem.
> No. Fuck Howard for signing up to a deal to screw Aussies.
Howard did nothing of the sort.
> Howard is a cunt.
You are a pig ignorant fuckwit.
Ördög
Jun 23, 2022, 7:29:00 PM6/23/22
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Petz
/snip/
You, Petz dear, still remain the unchallenged village idiot of this
newsgroup.
--
YAWN!
/snip/
> Looks like Iran will be shut down shortly as Iran prepares for war
> with Israel.
Irrelevant side-stepping non-sequitur bullshit as per usual.
> with Israel.
You, Petz dear, still remain the unchallenged village idiot of this
newsgroup.
--
YAWN!
Rod Speed
Jun 23, 2022, 7:32:20 PM6/23/22
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 09:24:15 +1000, Ördög
<newsgro...@hell.incorporated.biz> wrote:
> br wrote:
> /snip/
>
>> The majority of Australian gas should be reserved for Australian use
>> only. Foreigners should pay through the nose for the little that we
>> choose to export.
> That boat has sailed long ago.
Nope.
<newsgro...@hell.incorporated.biz> wrote:
> br wrote:
> /snip/
>
>> The majority of Australian gas should be reserved for Australian use
>> only. Foreigners should pay through the nose for the little that we
>> choose to export.
> That boat has sailed long ago.
> Such thing is only possibly if all resources and related industries
> remain in public hands. ... Or at least under some sort of rational
> government control.
invoke that yet.
We also once had it with iron ore when we didnt
realise how much of it we had in northern WA.
> Under neo-liberals and conservative capitalist libertarians run
> governments this current outcome is unavoidably what you get.
for consumption within the country and told Chevron that they got
to like that or lump it. Chevron initially tried to monster the WA govt
by saying that they wouldn't develop the gas field if the govt insisted
on that and then caved when they realised that the govt was serious.
WA has not seen the price of locally used gas hike.
<reams of your even sillier pig ignorant shit flushed where it belongs>
Ördög
Jun 23, 2022, 7:40:07 PM6/23/22
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Rod Speed, the Alzheimer ridden angry old fart:
> a pig ignorant fuckwit.
Nice sig!
--
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> a pig ignorant fuckwit.
Nice sig!
--
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Ördög
Jun 23, 2022, 7:45:43 PM6/23/22
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Rod Speed, the Alzheimer ridden angry old fart:
/snip/
> pig ignorant shit
Agreed!
Nice self assessment of your average newsgroup output.
Not surprising at all, since you only reply to those voices in your
misfiring brain and never to what was actually posted in the thread.
Petzl
Jun 23, 2022, 8:09:31 PM6/23/22
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 09:28:56 +1000, Ördög
<newsgro...@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:
>Petz
>
>/snip/
>> Looks like Iran will be shut down shortly as Iran prepares for war
>> with Israel.
>
>Irrelevant side-stepping non-sequitur bullshit
>
<newsgro...@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:
>Petz
>
>/snip/
>> Looks like Iran will be shut down shortly as Iran prepares for war
>> with Israel.
>
>Irrelevant side-stepping non-sequitur bullshit
>
<reams of your even sillier pig ignorant shit flushed where it
belongs>
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belongs>
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money. #Sir Ronald Millar
All governments lie about some things, but Biden's totalitarian run
government lie's about everything.
On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died
There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher
Petzl
Jun 23, 2022, 8:19:51 PM6/23/22
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 09:24:15 +1000, Ördög
<newsgro...@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:
>br wrote:
>/snip/
>
>> The majority of Australian gas should
>> be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
>> nose for the little that we choose to export.
>
>That boat has sailed long ago.
>
<newsgro...@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:
>br wrote:
>/snip/
>
>> The majority of Australian gas should
>> be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
>> nose for the little that we choose to export.
>
>That boat has sailed long ago.
>
<reams of your even sillier pig ignorant shit flushed where it
belongs>
Speaking of boats Albanese is off to France to kiss Frence arse about
belongs>
them! Wonder if he will bring back some Keating clocks?
<https://www.9news.com.au/national/anthony-albanese-to-visit-france-rebuild-relationship-after-aukus/468521eb-1f88-48e3-8f72-159e7129046e>
https://tinyurl.com/2a6lf5y4
He said his administration had brought that cost down to $3.4 billion
through the cooperation of Macron and the French government.
"It is important that that reset occur. France, of course, is central
to power in Europe. But it's also a key power in the Pacific, in our
own region as well," Albanese said.
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different
"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.
Trevor Wilson
Jun 24, 2022, 6:13:48 PM6/24/22
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https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
Ördög
Jun 24, 2022, 6:42:28 PM6/24/22
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Petz, the parrot!
> Ördög
>> Petz
>>
>> /snip/
>>> Looks like Iran will be shut down shortly as Iran prepares for war
>>> with Israel.
>>
>> Irrelevant side-stepping non-sequitur bullshit
>>
> <reams of your even sillier pig ignorant shit flushed where it
> belongs>
>
Hilarious calling my single line reply "reams".
But it's nice to see you finally completely abandoning any attempt at
providing any original rebuff, be they those totally insane ones you
used to cobble together with so much hard personal effort.
Now you have become nothing but a brain dead troll parroting the very
same shit your favorite newsgroup boyfriend dumps into this remote
corner of cyberspace.
Well done Petz dear! ... NOT!
Anyhow, you have failed to justify your piss-poor attempt at changing
the subject of this thread to your favourite hate rants made up of
retarded Islamophobia, antisemitism and alt-right wanking.
BTW you can save yourself the trouble of re posting your insanity sigs
as at the moment I have better things to do with my private life than
wasting time on trashing the ludicrous bullshit.
--
The ever present, ever vigilant newsgroup devil
> Ördög
>> Petz
>>
>> /snip/
>>> Looks like Iran will be shut down shortly as Iran prepares for war
>>> with Israel.
>>
>> Irrelevant side-stepping non-sequitur bullshit
>>
> <reams of your even sillier pig ignorant shit flushed where it
> belongs>
>
But it's nice to see you finally completely abandoning any attempt at
providing any original rebuff, be they those totally insane ones you
used to cobble together with so much hard personal effort.
Now you have become nothing but a brain dead troll parroting the very
same shit your favorite newsgroup boyfriend dumps into this remote
corner of cyberspace.
Well done Petz dear! ... NOT!
Anyhow, you have failed to justify your piss-poor attempt at changing
the subject of this thread to your favourite hate rants made up of
retarded Islamophobia, antisemitism and alt-right wanking.
BTW you can save yourself the trouble of re posting your insanity sigs
as at the moment I have better things to do with my private life than
wasting time on trashing the ludicrous bullshit.
--
The ever present, ever vigilant newsgroup devil
Ördög
Jun 24, 2022, 6:57:17 PM6/24/22
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Petz, the official newsgroup boyfriend of Rod Speed the Shrek.
> Ördög
Petz, Rod Speed's self nominated parrot has spoken!
>
> Speaking of boats ...
Alas you can address the original subject of discussion in this thread.
Can't say I am surprised.
And NO! I won't let you change the subject!
And rest assured, your pig ignorant "Stalin blah sig" wash flushed where
it belongs.
:P :P :P
> Ördög
>> br wrote:
>> /snip/
>>> The majority of Australian gas should
>>> be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
>>> nose for the little that we choose to export.
>>
>> That boat has sailed long ago.
>> /snip/
>>> The majority of Australian gas should
>>> be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay through the
>>> nose for the little that we choose to export.
>>
>> That boat has sailed long ago.
>> Such thing is only possibly if all resources and related industries
>> remain in public hands. ... Or at least under some sort of rational
>> government control.
>> Under neo-liberals and conservative capitalist libertarians run
>> governments this current outcome is unavoidably what you get.
>> Viva la limitless unbridled capitalist robber-baron economy!
>>
>> At least you could sleep well knowing that those multinational
>> corporations and their billionaire owners in this sector would have
>> no problems financing their lovely collections of private jets and
>> super-luxury yachts within the foreseeable future. Nothing is more
>> important than that.
>
> ...sillier pig ignorant shit ...
>> remain in public hands. ... Or at least under some sort of rational
>> government control.
>> Under neo-liberals and conservative capitalist libertarians run
>> governments this current outcome is unavoidably what you get.
>> Viva la limitless unbridled capitalist robber-baron economy!
>>
>> At least you could sleep well knowing that those multinational
>> corporations and their billionaire owners in this sector would have
>> no problems financing their lovely collections of private jets and
>> super-luxury yachts within the foreseeable future. Nothing is more
>> important than that.
>
Petz, Rod Speed's self nominated parrot has spoken!
>
> Speaking of boats ...
Alas you can address the original subject of discussion in this thread.
Can't say I am surprised.
And NO! I won't let you change the subject!
And rest assured, your pig ignorant "Stalin blah sig" wash flushed where
it belongs.
:P :P :P
Rod Speed
Jun 24, 2022, 8:47:49 PM6/24/22
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Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> br <automa...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>>>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>>>> He has got to be right about that. The majority of Australian gas
>>>>> should be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay
>>>>> through the nose for the little that we choose to export.
>>>> And the bulk of the exporting is being done by Chevron, yanks.
>>>> Fuckem.
>>> No. Fuck Howard for signing up to a deal to screw Aussies.
>> Howard did nothing of the sort.
>>> Howard is a cunt.
>> You are a pig ignorant fuckwit.
> **So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
We'll see...
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> br <automa...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>> But why didn't the coalition do anything for months, when it was
>>>>>> obvious that blacklisting Russian gas would send prices up?
>>>>>> He probably has a wood fireplace in his humble abode, and will stay
>>>>>> warm while the city slickers freeze in the dark.
>>>>> He has got to be right about that. The majority of Australian gas
>>>>> should be reserved for Australian use only. Foreigners should pay
>>>>> through the nose for the little that we choose to export.
>>>> And the bulk of the exporting is being done by Chevron, yanks.
>>>> Fuckem.
>>> No. Fuck Howard for signing up to a deal to screw Aussies.
>> Howard did nothing of the sort.
>>> Howard is a cunt.
>> You are a pig ignorant fuckwit.
> **So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>
> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
There is in fact a mechanism which allows the federal govt to stop
the export of our gas if the govt chooses to do that.
br
Jul 3, 2022, 7:01:22 PM7/3/22
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On 25/6/22 08:13, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> **So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
>
> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>
>
> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
>
That SMH article by Tony Wright on its own is devastating.
> **So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
>
> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>
>
> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
>
Who are these government leaders, a bunch of international crooks or
just complete morons?
The fairest thing one could say is that they truly believed "markets
should rule" rather than having the government acting in the interests
of the country and the people.
Will we ever be rid of neoliberal market economics?
Those contracts should be torn up.
Rod Speed
Jul 3, 2022, 7:17:31 PM7/3/22
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br <automa...@gmail.com> wrote
> Trevor Wilson wrote
>> So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
>>
>> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>>
>> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
> That SMH article by Tony Wright on its own is devastating.
Its just more mindless pig ignorant journo bullshit.
> Who are these government leaders,
No such animal.
> a bunch of international crooks
Nope.
> or just complete morons?
Nope.
> The fairest thing one could say is that theytruly believed "markets
> should rule"
There wouldn't be any govt controls if that was the case, stupid.
> rather than having the government acting inthe interests of the country
> and the people.
The interests of the country and the people depend on having exports,
stupid.
> Will we ever be rid of neoliberal market economics?
We aren't that stupid.
> Those contracts should be torn up.
We aren't that stupid.
> Trevor Wilson wrote
>> So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
>>
>> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>>
>> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
> That SMH article by Tony Wright on its own is devastating.
> Who are these government leaders,
> a bunch of international crooks
> or just complete morons?
Nope.
> The fairest thing one could say is that theytruly believed "markets
> should rule"
> rather than having the government acting inthe interests of the country
> and the people.
The interests of the country and the people depend on having exports,
stupid.
> Will we ever be rid of neoliberal market economics?
> Those contracts should be torn up.
Fran
Jul 3, 2022, 9:26:29 PM7/3/22
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On 4/07/2022 9:01 am, br wrote:
> On 25/6/22 08:13, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>
>> **So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
>>
>> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>>
>>
>> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>>
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
>>
>
> That SMH article by Tony Wright on its own is devastating.
>
> Who are these government leaders, a bunch of international crooks or
> just complete morons?
Some of each. IMO, Howard was a moron for how he went about looking
> On 25/6/22 08:13, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>
>> **So you say, but history proves you wrong (again):
>>
>> https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
>>
>>
>> https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6027806/gas-crisis-is-partly-of-the-coalitions-own-making/
>>
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-10-24/howard-hails-potential-gas-export-deal-with-china/1498650
>>
>
> That SMH article by Tony Wright on its own is devastating.
>
> Who are these government leaders, a bunch of international crooks or
> just complete morons?
after Australian interests but he was absolutely brilliant at political
hoodwinking. He wasted years of good times in our economy and he
encouraged all of the crooks in the LNP that came after him (even though
I don't think he was personally corrupt in any major way [other than
taking up residence in a harbour-side mansion when he should have lived
in Canberra], just not all that competent in any arena other than to be
a brilliant political hoodwinker).
>
> The fairest thing one could say is that they truly believed "markets
> should rule" rather than having the government acting in the interests
> of the country and the people.
>
> Will we ever be rid of neoliberal market economics?
>
> Those contracts should be torn up.
Yep.
> The fairest thing one could say is that they truly believed "markets
> should rule" rather than having the government acting in the interests
> of the country and the people.
>
> Will we ever be rid of neoliberal market economics?
>
> Those contracts should be torn up.
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