Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

groan! I've just returned to Australia

23 views
Skip to first unread message

bringyagrogalong

unread,
Apr 29, 2012, 11:38:27 PM4/29/12
to
Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.

It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.

But perhaps the biggest difference is how gullible and easily
manipulated Australians are, who, despite the Leveson Inquiry, are
still lapping up the bullshit in the Murdoch rags.

It's all rather sad really.

-----------

"You know what Tony Abbott's policy is? If you don't give me the job
I'll wreck the place”.
- Paul Keating

Pelican

unread,
Apr 29, 2012, 11:47:11 PM4/29/12
to


"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:27ef6b54-18a0-4cb3...@in2g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.

You claim to have changed?

> It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.

It's relative. If you had travelled more widely, you would understand that.

> But perhaps the biggest difference is how gullible and easily
> manipulated Australians are, who, despite the Leveson Inquiry, are
> still lapping up the bullshit in the Murdoch rags.

Not everyone reads are cares about the Murdoch rags.

> It's all rather sad really.

You have changed? I doubt it.

Poof

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 1:17:03 AM4/30/12
to
On Apr 30, 1:38 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.

And those you speak so poorly about are ALP voters, and that is why we
have the current ALP Goverment.
>
> It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.

Infastructure is the responsibility of State Governments and during
the time of inaction we have had what? ALP State Governments.
>
> But perhaps the biggest difference is how gullible and easily
> manipulated Australians are, who, despite the Leveson Inquiry, are
> still lapping up the bullshit in the Murdoch rags.

Truth and logic are not in the domain of the ALP, as witnessed by
current events. It wouldn't matter what they read.
> It's all rather sad really.

Never fear - things are about to change for the better.

jg

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 1:42:20 AM4/30/12
to
On 30/04/2012 1:17 PM, Poof wrote:
> On Apr 30, 1:38 pm, bringyagrogalong<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
>> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
>> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> And those you speak so poorly about are ALP voters, and that is why we
> have the current ALP Goverment.
>>
>> It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.
>
> Infastructure is the responsibility of State Governments and during
> the time of inaction we have had what? ALP State Governments.
>>
>> But perhaps the biggest difference is how gullible and easily
>> manipulated Australians are, who, despite the Leveson Inquiry, are
>> still lapping up the bullshit in the Murdoch rags.
>
> Truth and logic are not in the domain of the ALP, as witnessed by
> current events. It wouldn't matter what they read.
>> It's all rather sad really.
>
> Never fear - things are about to change for the better.

How will that cure for bigotry and racism manifest itself - more
immigration, more refugees?


Pelican

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 1:48:07 AM4/30/12
to


"jg" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ozpnr.6350$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
There is no cure, but the initial diagnosis in incorrect. Australians are
not particularly more bigoted and racist than people in most countries, and
are markedly less bigoted and racist than in most countries.

The inaccurate views of an ignorant few about Australian society can be
safely disregarded.

jg

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 2:57:49 AM4/30/12
to
Non- racist people say we are all the same under the skin. That wouldn't
seem to allow for some to be more is less racist or bigoted than
others... unless the accuser was racist.


bringyagrogalong

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 2:35:14 AM4/30/12
to
"Pelican" <water-bi...@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote:
> "jg" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > Poof wrote:
> >> bringyagrogalong<sof...@aapt.net.au>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> >>> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> >>> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> >> And those you speak so poorly about are ALP voters, and that is why we
> >> have the current  ALP Goverment.
>
> >>> It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.
>
> >> Infastructure is the responsibility of State Governments and during
> >> the time of inaction we have had what?  ALP State Governments.
>
> >>> But perhaps the biggest difference is how gullible and easily
> >>> manipulated Australians are, who, despite the Leveson Inquiry, are
> >>> still lapping up the bullshit in the Murdoch rags.
>
> >> Truth and logic are not in the domain of the ALP, as witnessed by
> >> current events.  It wouldn't matter what they read.
> >>
> >>> It's all rather sad really.
>
> >> Never fear - things are about to change for the better.
>
> > How will that cure for bigotry and racism manifest itself - more
> > immigration, more refugees?
>
> There is no cure, but the initial diagnosis in incorrect.  Australians are
> not particularly more bigoted and racist than people in most countries, and
> are markedly less bigoted and racist than in most countries.
>
> The inaccurate views of an ignorant few about Australian society can be
> safely disregarded.

Thank you for being so open and honest in recognising your
shortcomings.

---------

“Prime Minister John Howard has repeatedly proven to be one of the
most sensible leaders in the Western world”.
- Norwegian right-wing mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik

Pelican

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 3:29:01 AM4/30/12
to


"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:9193be9f-e34a-42cc...@jx17g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
> Thank you for being so open and honest in recognising my
> shortcomings.

No problem. I fixed your typo.

HD

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 5:20:02 AM4/30/12
to

"Poof" <jmcc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f2293921-bbc4-4492...@k10g2000pbk.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 30, 1:38 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.

And those you speak so poorly about are ALP voters, and that is why we
have the current ALP Goverment.
>
> It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.

Infastructure is the responsibility of State Governments and during
the time of inaction we have had what? ALP State Governments.


National Highways are the responsibility of the national government.
Our highways are among the worst in the world.

Gillard = Rudd in a frock

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 5:41:00 AM4/30/12
to
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:

>Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
>in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
>minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
>It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.

You are more than welcome to live there, you ignorant wog.

You would lower their IQ, and Australia's would rise at the same time.

BTW, while you were away, did you hear about the Qld election results?

Bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
etc.
>
--

"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a
20-year stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces
every time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no
influence, no friends, no learning. There's not much there."

Bob Ellis (ALP speech writer) on Dullard! http://tinyurl.com/23jklvv

"Gillard is part of a Melbourne-based gang Ellis dubs the "Mouse Pack",
which includes Simon Crean and Martin Ferguson.

"They twitch their whiskers and come out in favour of the Afghan war
without studying the problem or noting that an army intelligence
officer [independent MP Andrew Wilkie] holds the balance of power,"
Ellis says."

More Bob Ellis (ALP Speech writer) on Dullard! http://tinyurl.com/23jklvv

Spartan613

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 6:10:41 AM4/30/12
to
"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:27ef6b54-18a0-4cb3...@in2g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.

*********

Fuck off back to China, or prison, then.

--
"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not
want merely because you think it would be good for him".

Robert A. Heinlein.

Chris Diesel

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 7:09:34 AM4/30/12
to

"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:27ef6b54-18a0-4cb3...@in2g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.

And we all thought you'd necked yourself after the ALP's election disaster
in Qld.


bringyagrogalong

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 7:40:08 AM4/30/12
to
"Chris Diesel" <die...@no.real.address.com.au> wrote:
> "bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>
> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> And we all thought you'd necked yourself after the ALP's election disaster
> in Qld.

Queensland? ROTFL

FFS Those dumbarse geriatric inbred retards voted for Joh for 20
years.

They also voted en-mass for Pauline Hanson.

'nuff said!

You don't get any Australians admitting to being Queenslanders
overseas, it's akin to admitting to being a lobotomised mongoloid.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 7:53:41 AM4/30/12
to

Gillard = Rudd in a frock

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 3:31:20 PM4/30/12
to
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:40:08 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:

>You don't get any Australians admitting to being Queenslanders
>overseas,

That shows how rarely you go overseas!

LOL!

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 8:27:42 PM4/30/12
to
http://www.facebook.com/groups/refugeesupportaustralia/
Kangaroo Courts of Australia go on trial as the Refugee seeks that
the
High Court Australia not incite racial hatred, and defending True
Blue
Aussie values
Dear Victorian Premier,
Attorneys General,
Friends,
1. In M21 of 2012, the Refugee is attempting to uphold True Blue
Aussie values.
2. How will the High Court Australia respond? Will they vindicate the
Kirby J dissent in
Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation V
The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land Trust?
3. The Refugee deserves to be heard and be seen to contribute to
Australian values,
and Way of Life in the Australian Court of Law.
4. There are so many hurdles for the Refugee to jump over but we
finally managed to get the documents filed today.
5. Will our audience pardon our Engrish, but surely the rule of law
does not depend on the language.
6. We shall see, what we shall see
Respectfully,
The Refugee
=====================
IN THE HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA
MELBOURNE
REGISTRY
No. M21 of 2012
BETWEEN:
Le Tuan Pham
Applicant
and
Minh Nguyen
Respondent
APPLICANT’S SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT
Part I:
[A concise statement, in the case of an application for special leave
to appeal, of the special leave questions, said to arise.]
I. There are genuine questions of public
importance arising from this application:
The Refugee is vilified in public, and in this case by public
authorities; the Applicant is a refugee;
Where Racial Hatred has been legislated against directly, as in
Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006,
inter
alia;
The Refugee deserves to be allowed to stand up and make a case for
himself;
And not be vilified on his Engrish or bad English, even though
natural
justice does not rely on any specific language;
II. There seems to be a difference of opinion
between the courts;
III. The interests of justice require
that the Refugee be heard,
And be given proper and clear reasons for his questions;
Where there is clear and direct legislation for protection of basic
human rights;
Where there is clear and direct legislation for the protection of
natural justice in lieu of human rights.
Part II:
[A brief statement of the factual background to the application.]
On 1 March 2011, the Applicant signed a residential lease under the
Residential Tenancies Act 1997 (VIC) with a landlady at unit 2/23
Virginia St, Springvale 3171;
The question then arises whether the “shared room” the garage, was
habitable.
At VCAT on 30th August 2011, there was a consent order made by Member
J Kefford for compensation for the Landlady’s Breaches of Duty, and
the validity of Notice(s) to Vacate.
The Order states that the Applicant must move out by 30th September,
without further cost as to rent, and that the Landlady may apply for
possession AFTER the 30th September.
In addition, the Member struck out one Notice to Vacate and withdrew
another for being incompetent.
Two (2) days later, the respondent breached and showed contempt for
the VCAT order and violated the timetable for vacating the premises,
by filing for possession which was subsequent heard on the 26th
September.
Due to the breaches and violation of that consent order by the
respondent, the Applicant sought to have his moving costs,
inconvenience and other associated costs compensated,
The Applicant then re-issued a Breach of Duty Notice on the
Respondent, and indicated that he would now withdraw his intention to
vacate;
The Applicant argued that there was no valid Notice to Vacate, in
front of Member G Cremean; the member refused to hear on Compensation
for breaches of duty.
The Member failed to provide any order on the day of the hearing and
took some weeks to provide her reasons.
Member Cremean then backdated her orders to the day of the hearing
and
order that the Applicant vacate the premises in two (2) days;
Knowing the bad faith and willful conduct of the landlady and her
real
estate agent, Tony Rachele of McLennan Real Estate, the Applicant
sought review to protect his properties.
At the Supreme Court, the Applicant sought to appeal on the merits of
the decision from VCAT and seek an injunction against the possession
order.
The affidavit and supporting medical report from the Applicant that
went unchallenged was filed to be heard with Cavanough J in the
practice court, and now resubmitted to the High Court.
Cavanough J made the Applicant chase down the Respondent to be
present;
Cavanough J refused to allow an adjournment on medical grounds;
Cavanough J refused to provide written statements of reasons for his
decision, under valid court procedure rules;
In the Court of Appeals, the Respondent failed to turned up
The court of appeals erred by failing to indicate which Notice to
vacate was valid
The Court of Appeals erred by requiring the Applicant to challenge on
a question of fact that the applicant has moved out to the premises.
Part III:
[A brief statement of the applicant’s argument.]
The legal profession has a fifty percent (50%) success rate, meaning
every time a case is brought before the courts, one side would lose
any case. If the Australian Medical Association has a fifty percent
(50%) success rate, they would be labeled charlatan.
The Refugee deserves to be heard and be seen to contribute to
Australian values and Way of Life in the Australian Court of Law.
The Grounds of judicial review are satisfied by the Applicant:
a breach of natural justice;
an error of law; and or
a failure to take into account a relevant consideration.
Section 5 of the Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977
(Cth) ("ADJR Act") lists the grounds of judicial review, which
largely
reflect the common law grounds at both federal and state levels, as
follows:
A person who is aggrieved by a decision to which this Act applies
that
is made after the commencement of this Act may apply to the Federal
Court or the Federal Magistrates Court for an order of review in
respect of the decision on any one or more of the following grounds:
that a breach of the rules of natural justice occurred in connection
with the making of the decision;
that procedures that were required by law to be observed in
connection
with the making of the decision were not observed;
that the decision was not authorized by the enactment in pursuance of
which it was purported to be made;
that the making of the decision was an improper exercise of the power
conferred by the enactment in pursuance of which it was purported to
be made;
that the decision involved an error of law, whether or not the error
appears on the record of the decision;
that the decision was induced or affected by fraud;
that there was no evidence or other material to justify the making of
the decision;
that the decision was otherwise contrary to law.
The reference in paragraph (1)(e) to an improper exercise of a power
shall be construed as including a reference to:
taking an irrelevant consideration into account in the exercise of a
power;
failing to take a relevant consideration into account in the exercise
of a power;
an exercise of a power for a purpose other than a purpose for which
the power is conferred;
an exercise of a discretionary power in bad faith;
an exercise of a personal discretionary power at the direction or
behest of another person;
an exercise of a discretionary power in accordance with a rule or
policy without regard to the merits of the particular case;
an exercise of a power that is so unreasonable that no reasonable
person could have so exercised the power;
an exercise of a power in such a way that the result of the exercise
of the power is uncertain; and
any other exercise of a power in a way that constitutes abuse of the
power.
Review under the Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977
(Cth), especially under section 5, seems to indicate an enactment of
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination,
Inter alia;
Into Australian laws: an exercise of a power that is so unreasonable
that no reasonable person could have so exercised the power;
The other grounds of review pursuant to statute: the Victorian
Charter
of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006.
Section 8. Recognition and equality before the law
Section 13 Privacy and Reputation
Section 24 Fair Hearing
Section 32 Interpretation
Section 38 Conduct of public authorities
Section 39 Legal proceedings
Part IV:
[Reasons why special leave should be granted.]
There are genuine questions of public importance arising from this
application:
The Refugee is vilified in public, and in this case by public
authorities; the Applicant is a refugee;
Where Racial Hatred has been legislated against directly, as in
Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006,
inter
alia;
The Refugee deserves to be allowed to stand up and make a case for
himself;
And not be vilified on his Engrish or bad English, even though
natural
justice does not rely on any specific language;
There seems to be a difference of opinion between the courts: Court
of
Appeal erred by failing to heed proper Authority:
Kostas v HIA Insurance Services Pty Limited [2010] HCA 32
Gurnett v The Macquarie Stevedoring Co Pty Ltd [No 2][126]
The interests of justice require
that the Refugee be heard,
And be given proper and clear reasons for his questions;
Where there is clear and direct legislation for protection of basic
human rights;
Where there is clear and direct legislation for the protection of
natural justice in lieu of human rights.
In M142/2007 Pham vs the Commonwealth, the same Applicant to this
application, asked the court for Writs of Mandamus, the High Court
Australia decides without his consent that the Applicant meant
Certiorari. Surely, the Applicant’s Engrish is not that bad! The
Refugee feels insulted, humiliated and intimidated.
Provisions dealing with racial hatred in 1995, the Racial
Discrimination Act makes it unlawful for
1) The act must be done in public;
2) It must be reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or
intimidate the people against whom it is directed; and
3) It must be done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic
origin of the group against whom it is directed.
The threshold is “the victim's perspective is the measure of whether
an act is likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate”.
The threshold is indirect unlawful discrimination based on race and
or
disability.
In Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation
V The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land
Trust,
the Honorable Justice Michael Kirby suggesting that the Aboriginality
of the applicants influenced the High Court decision.
"If any other Australians, selected by reference to their race,
suffered the imposition on their pre-existing property interests of
non-consensual five-year statutory leases … it is difficult to
believe
that a challenge to such a law would fail as legally unarguable on
the
ground that no 'property' had been 'acquired'," he said.
"The Aboriginal parties are entitled to have their trial and day in
court. We should not slam the doors of the courts in their face. This
is a case in which a transparent, public trial of the proceedings has
its own justification."
Justice Michael Kirby seems to be taking into consideration the 3
provisions of racial hatred in the Race Discrimination Act 1975
(Cth),
namely it was made in public, the victim's perspective in whether an
act is likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate, and that in
all likelihood, natural justice in lieu of human rights, would have
been afforded other Australians in such circumstances.
In this particular case, the applicant submit that property has been
acquired, namely the filing fees for this application,
And that just compensation, must be afforded the Applicant and that
he
be heard and that he be given competent and proper reasons as to why
his questions are not valid;
Justice Michael Kirby seems to be equating natural justice with human
rights, and that protection for natural justice in Administrative
Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977 (Cth), inter alia.
The accompanying VCAT Directions of Senior Member G Nihill
Ref:A41/2012, and at least five (5) other cases coming from VCAT, and
at least three (3) coming from G Nihill, seems to indicate that VCAT
requires the Applicant to test what is proper judicial conduct,
especially in providing improper legal advice and the handling of
evidence, and direct legislation of conduct to be compatible with
natural justice if not human rights, enacted by the Victorian
parliament.
Part V:
An order for costs should not be made in favour of the respondent in
the event that the application is refused because the respondent
showed contempt for the legal process and correspondent laws and
courts, by failing to attend the court hearing.
In a related matter in front of VCAT, the representative of the
respondent, Mr Tony Rachele of McLennan Real Estate indicated to the
effect that “he couldn’t be bothered”.
In the absence of the respondent, the Court of Appeal Victoria in
effect acted for the respondent in a capacity that violates their
independence and neutrality.
Part VI:
[A table of the authorities, legislation or other material on which
the applicant relies, identifying the pages at which the relevant
passages appear.]
Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977 (Cth)
Section 5, inter alia
Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006
Section 8. Recognition and equality before the law
Section 13 Privacy and Reputation
Section 24 Fair Hearing
Section 32 Interpretation
Section 38 Conduct of public authorities
Section 39 Legal proceedings
Inter alia
Racial Discrimination Act 1975, 1995 (Cth) and its state counterpart
Including the racial hatred provisions
Disability Discrimination Act 1992 (Cth) and its state counterpart
the Judiciary Act
section 39B
Inter alia
Authority
Kostas v HIA Insurance Services Pty Limited [2010] HCA 32
Gurnett v The Macquarie Stevedoring Co Pty Ltd [No 2][126]
Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation
V
The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land Trust
Enclosed Documents
Medical report from Dr Chi Lye Tang of Springvale South Medical
Centre
dated 04 April 2012
Centrelink Medical Certicate
dated 04 April 2012
Confirmation of Health Care Card
dated 04 April 2012
VCAT Directions of Senior Member G Nihill
Ref:A41/2012
dated 02 April 2012
Part VII:
The applicant seeks to supplement this summary with oral argument.
Dated Thursday, April 19, 2012
................
(signed)....................
[Name of applicant / applicant’s solicitor]
2 attachments — Download all attachments
Form-18_pham vs nguyen_6.pdf32K View
Download Form-24_pham vs
nguyen_6.pdf10K View Download

90001

bringyagrogalong

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 9:43:56 PM4/30/12
to
Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> > in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> > minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> > It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.
>
> You are more than welcome to live there, you ignorant wog.

I wouldn't mind.

China was a real eye-opener, very progressive and modern with many of
its cities being indistinguishable from cities in Europe.

In fact Shanghai makes Sydney look like a bit of a dump.


Pelican

unread,
Apr 30, 2012, 11:56:27 PM4/30/12
to


"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:e0803175-d8a0-4a29...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
What an idiot. If Sydney looks like a bit of a dump, many (if not most
first-world cities) would look far worse.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 1, 2012, 3:39:07 AM5/1/12
to
On May 1, 10:27 am, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> application, asked the court for Writs ...
>
> read more »

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 1, 2012, 4:00:05 AM5/1/12
to
"Pelican" <water-bi...@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote:
> "bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> > Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> >> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> > Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> >> > in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> >> > minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> >> > It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.
>
> >> You are more than welcome to live there, you ignorant wog.
>
> > I wouldn't mind.
>
> > China was a real eye-opener, very progressive and modern with many of
> > its cities being indistinguishable from cities in Europe.
>
> > In fact Shanghai makes Sydney look like a bit of a dump.
>
> What an idiot.  If Sydney looks like a bit of a dump, many (if not most
> first-world cities) would look far worse.

Rubbish!

Sydney's got a great harbour and most of the foreshore but the city
itself is a dump.

The first thing they should do is give Circular Quay station, the
ferry terminals and the area from the rocks to the Opera House an
urgent makeover. What a depressing shithole it is.

The trouble with you and many Australians is that they believe their
own bullshit about themselves.

You obviously haven't travelled out of the country.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 1, 2012, 7:36:56 AM5/1/12
to
On May 1, 5:39 pm, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
> ...
>
> read more »

m

Spartan613

unread,
May 1, 2012, 8:10:08 AM5/1/12
to
"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:776d828f-25c4-44c7...@h4g2000pbe.googlegroups.com...
> "Chris Diesel" <die...@no.real.address.com.au> wrote:
>> "bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>>
>> Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
>> in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
>> minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>>
>> And we all thought you'd necked yourself after the ALP's election
>> disaster
>> in Qld.
>
> Queensland? ROTFL
>
> FFS Those dumbarse geriatric inbred retards

So what were they when Anna Bligh, and her predecessors, were fucking the
place up?

Fuck you're a loser.

Spartan613

unread,
May 1, 2012, 8:10:43 AM5/1/12
to
"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:e0803175-d8a0-4a29...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
Fuck off then.

What's keeping you?

Spartan613

unread,
May 1, 2012, 8:32:31 AM5/1/12
to
"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:75b451ff-46c5-41a7...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
*********

Obviously you don't identify as an Australia. (No surprises there).

So, wog, why are you in my country? Sponging off my tax dollars through
Centrelink?

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 1, 2012, 8:27:46 AM5/1/12
to
On May 1, 9:36 pm, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
> ...
>
> read more »

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 1, 2012, 8:40:39 AM5/1/12
to
"Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
> "bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> > Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> >> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> > Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three weeks
> >> > in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist, small-
> >> > minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> >> > It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.
>
> >> You are more than welcome to live there, you ignorant wog.
>
> > I wouldn't mind.
>
> > China was a real eye-opener, very progressive and modern with many of
> > its cities being indistinguishable from cities in Europe.
>
> > In fact Shanghai makes Sydney look like a bit of a dump.
>
> Fuck off then.
>
> What's keeping you?

LOL Spartan's response is fairly typical amongst the uneducated.

They're so insecure and childlike that they can't take any criticism
without taking it personally.

Here's some more enlightenment for you....

When you worry about what the rest of the world thinks about us,
don't, because the rest of the world doesn't!

They view us much like we would view, say, Togo.

You need to leave the 20 kilometre circumference from the shithole you
were born into and get out into the real world.


Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 1, 2012, 9:25:54 AM5/1/12
to
On May 1, 10:27 pm, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
> ...
>
> read more »

Spartan613

unread,
May 2, 2012, 6:40:22 AM5/2/12
to
"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:adaa0bf6-a4b9-4371...@n5g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
Fuckwit, I've lived and worked in every State of this country and lived and
worked in SE-Asia, Europe, USA, NZ, and a few places in the Middle East.

I notice you're pretending not have seen my question re Queenslanders who
voted for Labor in the past. You're a cockhead of the first order.

farkya hzalle

unread,
May 2, 2012, 7:36:48 AM5/2/12
to
Don't feed the trolls, and that goes treble for senile paedophile
alcoholic eurotrash maggots like sergay. The old maggot has been on
the inside again after being caught yet again committing minor acts of
criminal thievery. Obviously the senile turd found a travel magazine
featuring China. He hasn't been to China, he will never go to China.
Stupid, idiot statements from the rock spider like "everybody has i-
phones" is clearly bullshit. Apple hasn't made quite that many i-
phones yet. Ignore the old kiddie diddler. Responding to his senile
rants only encourages the commo prick to waste electrons on more
insane ravings. I'm still waiting for prove of his claim that he lives
in a mansion. Inner city vermin infested boarding house room for down
and out losers, ex-crims, paedophiles and senile alcoholics would be
closer to the truth.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 2, 2012, 5:14:19 PM5/2/12
to
On May 1, 11:25 pm, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
> ...
>
> read more »

09

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 3, 2012, 2:34:56 AM5/3/12
to
"Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
> "bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> > "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
> >> "bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> >> > Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> >> >> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Having spent close to a couple of months in Asia including three
> >> >> > weeks in China one realises what an ill-informed, bigoted, racist,
> >> >> > small-minded bunch of no-accounts we Australians are.
>
> >> >> > It also shows how backward our technology and infrastructure is.
>
> >> >> You are more than welcome to live there, you ignorant wog.
>
> >> > I wouldn't mind.
>
> >> > China was a real eye-opener, very progressive and modern with many of
> >> > its cities being indistinguishable from cities in Europe.
>
> >> > In fact Shanghai makes Sydney look like a bit of a dump.
>
> >> Fuck off then.
>
> >> What's keeping you?
>
> > LOL Spartan's response is fairly typical amongst the uneducated.
>
> > They're so insecure and childlike that they can't take any criticism
> > without taking it personally.
>
> > Here's some more enlightenment for you....
>
> > When you worry about what the rest of the world thinks about us,
> > don't, because the rest of the world doesn't!
>
> > They view us much like we would view, say, Togo.
>
> > You need to leave the 20 kilometre circumference from the shithole you
> > were born into and get out into the real world.
>
> Fuckwit, I've lived and worked in every State of this country and lived and
> worked in SE-Asia, Europe, USA, NZ, and a few places in the Middle East.

Bullshit!

Travel broadens the mind and it's clear from your narrow-minded views
that you have never travelled out of the country.

You're a typical brainless bogan who gets his information from the
shockjocks and Murdoch rags.

It's time to think for yourself Jethro.

------------

"I didn't visit our troops in Afghanistan because I didn’t want to get
to London in a jetlagged condition”.
- Tony Abbott

"It's all about him, isn't it? He's prepared to put our boy's life on
the line but not his own”.

- Jennifer Ward, whose son was killed in Afghanistan.

"Is he fit to be Prime Minister? Not if he finds lame excuses like
this for not doing the right thing."

- Felix Sher, whose son was killed in Afghanistan.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 3, 2012, 3:16:03 AM5/3/12
to
On May 3, 7:14 am, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
> ...
>
> read more »

,.

Spartan613

unread,
May 3, 2012, 8:31:04 AM5/3/12
to
"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:b1aab836-34cc-49a0...@kw17g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
*Bullshit!

You're full of it.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 3, 2012, 11:25:26 AM5/3/12
to
an exercise of a power in such a way that the result of the exercise
of the power is uncertain; and
any other exercise of a power in a way that constitutes abuse of the
power.
Review under the Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977
(Cth), especially under section 5, seems to indicate an enactment of
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination,
Inter alia;
Into Australian laws: an exercise of a power that is so unreasonable
that no reasonable person could have so exercised the power;
The other grounds of review pursuant to statute: the Victorian
Charter
of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006.
Section 8. Recognition and equality before the law
Section 13 Privacy and Reputation
Section 24 Fair Hearing
Section 32 Interpretation
Section 38 Conduct of public authorities
Section 39 Legal proceedings
Part IV:
[Reasons why special leave should be granted.]
There are genuine questions of public importance arising from this
application:
The Refugee is vilified in public, and in this case by public
authorities; the Applicant is a refugee;
Where Racial Hatred has been legislated against directly, as in
Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006,
inter
alia;
The Refugee deserves to be allowed to stand up and make a case for
himself;
And not be vilified on his Engrish or bad English, even though
natural
justice does not rely on any specific language;
There seems to be a difference of opinion between the courts: Court
of
Appeal erred by failing to heed proper Authority:
Kostas v HIA Insurance Services Pty Limited [2010] HCA 32
Gurnett v The Macquarie Stevedoring Co Pty Ltd [No 2][126]
The interests of justice require
that the Refugee be heard,
And be given proper and clear reasons for his questions;
Where there is clear and direct legislation for protection of basic
human rights;
Where there is clear and direct legislation for the protection of
natural justice in lieu of human rights.
In M142/2007 Pham vs the Commonwealth, the same Applicant to this
application, asked the court for Writs of Mandamus, the High Court
Australia decides without his consent that the Applicant meant
Certiorari. Surely, the Applicant’s Engrish is not that bad! The
Refugee feels insulted, humiliated and intimidated.
Provisions dealing with racial hatred in 1995, the Racial
Discrimination Act makes it unlawful for
1) The act must be done in public;
2) It must be reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or
intimidate the people against whom it is directed; and
3) It must be done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic
origin of the group against whom it is directed.
The threshold is “the victim's perspective is the measure of whether
an act is likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate”.
The threshold is indirect unlawful discrimination based on race and
or
disability.
In Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation
V The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land
Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977 (Cth)
Section 5, inter alia
Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006
Section 8. Recognition and equality before the law
Section 13 Privacy and Reputation
Section 24 Fair Hearing
Section 32 Interpretation
Section 38 Conduct of public authorities
Section 39 Legal proceedings
Inter alia
Racial Discrimination Act 1975, 1995 (Cth) and its state counterpart
Including the racial hatred provisions
Disability Discrimination Act 1992 (Cth) and its state counterpart
the Judiciary Act
section 39B
Inter alia
Authority
Kostas v HIA Insurance Services Pty Limited [2010] HCA 32
Gurnett v The Macquarie Stevedoring Co Pty Ltd [No 2][126]
Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation
V
The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land Trust
Enclosed Documents
Medical report from Dr Chi Lye Tang of Springvale South Medical
Centre
dated 04 April 2012
Centrelink Medical Certicate
dated 04 April 2012
Confirmation of Health Care Card
dated 04 April 2012
VCAT Directions of Senior Member G Nihill
Ref:A41/2012
dated 02 April 2012
Part VII:
The applicant seeks to supplement this summary with oral argument.
Dated Thursday, April 19, 2012
................
(signed)....................
[Name of applicant / applicant’s solicitor]
2 attachments — Download all attachments
Form-18_pham vs nguyen_6.pdf32K View
Download Form-24_pham vs
nguyen_6.pdf10K View Download

802

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 3, 2012, 11:04:50 PM5/3/12
to
On May 4, 1:25 am, Kangaroo Court Australia
> application, asked the court for Writs ...
>
> read more »

501

Gillard = Rudd in a frock

unread,
May 4, 2012, 4:24:02 PM5/4/12
to
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:43:56 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:

>>
>> You are more than welcome to live there, you ignorant wog.
>
>I wouldn't mind.

Off you go, and enjoy the pollution and corruption.

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 4, 2012, 10:35:10 PM5/4/12
to
OF DEAR!!!

OH ME! OH! FUCKING MY! ROTFLMAO

Spartan has just replied to his *own* comment and declared it as
"bullshit". <unbridled mirth>

What a card-carrying imbecile.

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 6, 2012, 1:02:47 PM5/6/12
to
application, asked the court for Writs of Mandamus, the High Court
Australia decides without his consent that the Applicant meant
Certiorari. Surely, the Applicant’s Engrish is not that bad! The
Refugee feels insulted, humiliated and intimidated.
Provisions dealing with racial hatred in 1995, the Racial
Discrimination Act makes it unlawful for
1) The act must be done in public;
2) It must be reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or
intimidate the people against whom it is directed; and
3) It must be done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic
origin of the group against whom it is directed.
The threshold is “the victim's perspective is the measure of whether
an act is likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate”.
The threshold is indirect unlawful discrimination based on race and
or
disability.
In Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation
V The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land
Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977 (Cth)
Section 5, inter alia
Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006
Section 8. Recognition and equality before the law
Section 13 Privacy and Reputation
Section 24 Fair Hearing
Section 32 Interpretation
Section 38 Conduct of public authorities
Section 39 Legal proceedings
Inter alia
Racial Discrimination Act 1975, 1995 (Cth) and its state counterpart
Including the racial hatred provisions
Disability Discrimination Act 1992 (Cth) and its state counterpart
the Judiciary Act
section 39B
Inter alia
Authority
Kostas v HIA Insurance Services Pty Limited [2010] HCA 32
Gurnett v The Macquarie Stevedoring Co Pty Ltd [No 2][126]
Reggie Wurridjal, Joy Garlbin And Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation
V
The Commonwealth Of Australia And Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land Trust
Enclosed Documents
Medical report from Dr Chi Lye Tang of Springvale South Medical
Centre
dated 04 April 2012
Centrelink Medical Certicate
dated 04 April 2012
Confirmation of Health Care Card
dated 04 April 2012
VCAT Directions of Senior Member G Nihill
Ref:A41/2012
dated 02 April 2012
Part VII:
The applicant seeks to supplement this summary with oral argument.
Dated Thursday, April 19, 2012
................
(signed)....................
[Name of applicant / applicant’s solicitor]
2 attachments — Download all attachments
Form-18_pham vs nguyen_6.pdf32K View
Download Form-24_pham vs
nguyen_6.pdf10K View Download
991

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 6, 2012, 9:54:45 PM5/6/12
to
Worth repeating!

Gillard = Rudd in a frock

unread,
May 7, 2012, 5:41:49 AM5/7/12
to
On Sun, 6 May 2012 18:54:45 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:

>Worth repeating!

Why?

If that is the best you can do; extremely childish.

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 7, 2012, 6:34:03 AM5/7/12
to
Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > Worth repeating!
>
> Why?

Because it shows that Spartan is either insane or a drunkard.

Gillard = Rudd in a frock

unread,
May 7, 2012, 1:53:22 PM5/7/12
to
How?

Kangaroo Court Australia

unread,
May 8, 2012, 11:10:55 AM5/8/12
to
881

bringyagrogalong

unread,
May 8, 2012, 11:13:50 PM5/8/12
to
Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >Cock in a frock <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
> >> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> > Worth repeating!
>
> >> Why?
>
> > Because it shows that Spartan is either insane or a drunkard.
>
> How?

Because the imbecile replied to something he himself said and called
it bullshit.

But perhaps you have a point, he may be neither insane nor drunk but
was just being honest.

-----------

Wayne Swan named world's best treasurer

"Mr Swan has presided over the best economy in the developed world,
record low unemployment of 5.3 per cent, economic growth of 5 per cent
since the GFC, a rise in the pension and tax cuts, all while keeping
debt at 7.2 per cent of GDP compared to the G7 average of 80 per
cent".

What a genius!

http://tinyurl.com/3hvuo6c

And the only other Australian to be so honoured?

Yep! Another Labor financial genius, Paul Keating.

Gee! No such plaudits for those nincompoops, the Libs. LOL
0 new messages