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Nov 21, 2011, 9:31:38 PM11/21/11
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Hi peeps, got a legal question regarding an app called ControlByMail at www.vic2pc.com.
Basically, it lets you remotely control your home PC from school or work, and lets you
view Facebook at work via email. My question is: at my job, we're not allowed to view
websites like Facebook and they're actually denied from loading with the firewall or
proxy setup by the engineers. Do you think if I used ControlByMail to view Facebook
by email, that it would be breaking my job's internet policies? I'm assuming that it
wouldn't, because I'm not actually trying to load a banned website; I'm just viewing
it as an email attachment, so there's no bypassing of the web filters as such. Know
what I'm getting at? I should be safe to use it? I note that their EULA states that
they're not responsible if I get into trouble from my employer, so maybe there is a
risk, or are they just convering themself? Thoughts appreciated, with cites, please.
Basically, it lets you remotely control your home PC from school or work, and lets you
view Facebook at work via email. My question is: at my job, we're not allowed to view
websites like Facebook and they're actually denied from loading with the firewall or
proxy setup by the engineers. Do you think if I used ControlByMail to view Facebook
by email, that it would be breaking my job's internet policies? I'm assuming that it
wouldn't, because I'm not actually trying to load a banned website; I'm just viewing
it as an email attachment, so there's no bypassing of the web filters as such. Know
what I'm getting at? I should be safe to use it? I note that their EULA states that
they're not responsible if I get into trouble from my employer, so maybe there is a
risk, or are they just convering themself? Thoughts appreciated, with cites, please.
Phil Allison
Nov 21, 2011, 8:44:13 PM11/21/11
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"Question = Fool "
> Hi peeps, got a legal question regarding an app called ControlByMail at
> www.vic2pc.com.
> Basically, it lets you remotely control your home PC from school or work,
> and lets you
> view Facebook at work via email. My question is: at my job, we're not
> allowed to view
> websites like Facebook and they're actually denied from loading with the
> firewall or
> proxy setup by the engineers. Do you think if I used ControlByMail to view
> by email, that it would be breaking my job's internet policies?
> I'm assuming that it
> wouldn't, because I'm not actually trying to load a banned website; I'm
> just viewing
> it as an email attachment, so there's no bypassing of the web filters as
> such. Know
> what I'm getting at?
time*.
God knows why they employ a jerk like you at all.
... Phil
atec77
Nov 21, 2011, 9:44:24 PM11/21/11
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surprise , happy unemployment
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Nov 21, 2011, 10:51:06 PM11/21/11
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"atec77" <ate...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:jaf2aa$64h$1...@dont-email.me...
Hang on a sec, the rules are no WEB BROWSING; this is an email-based app.
Surely using email to browse sites would therefore be exempt from the rules?
Because I'm not actively trying to bypass their firewall or proxies. I think
this would stand up in court if I got sacked for it.
Surely using email to browse sites would therefore be exempt from the rules?
Because I'm not actively trying to bypass their firewall or proxies. I think
this would stand up in court if I got sacked for it.
Magma
Nov 21, 2011, 10:10:58 PM11/21/11
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"Question" <nos...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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like Facebook. If you circumvent that by loading your own software, you
would almost certainly be in breach of your employer's rules. You know
that. You might also be committing a criminal offence by loading your own
software in that way.
The only ethical way to be sure is to ask your employer. You already know
what it will say. It will then have some doubts about you. You know, or
should know, that.
Magma
Nov 21, 2011, 10:13:54 PM11/21/11
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You are deluding yourself if you believe that. You already know the answer,
or you would have asked your employer. You haven't, because you know the
answer.
>
>
or you would have asked your employer. You haven't, because you know the
answer.
>
>
atec77
Nov 21, 2011, 10:53:37 PM11/21/11
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enjoy the reaming
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Nov 22, 2011, 1:22:13 AM11/22/11
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"Magma" <ma...@nowhere.com.ru> wrote in message news:jaf3s5$fbu$1...@news.albasani.net...
email, like if I emailed you something at work. Where's the "loading"? I can
tell you didn't check out the app to know what I'm talking about, so you can't
really pass judgement without all the facts. This is aus.LEGAL, where strict
rules of the law are the only concern. But you should know that.
Oh, and thanks for trying to redirect this to alt.f*ckwits. Nice try!
>
>
> "Question" <nos...@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:4ecafbc7$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Hi peeps, got a legal question regarding an app called ControlByMail at www.vic2pc.com.
>> Basically, it lets you remotely control your home PC from school or work, and lets you
>> view Facebook at work via email. My question is: at my job, we're not allowed to view
>> websites like Facebook and they're actually denied from loading with the firewall or
>> proxy setup by the engineers. Do you think if I used ControlByMail to view Facebook
>> by email, that it would be breaking my job's internet policies? I'm assuming that it
>> wouldn't, because I'm not actually trying to load a banned website; I'm just viewing
>> it as an email attachment, so there's no bypassing of the web filters as such. Know
>> what I'm getting at? I should be safe to use it? I note that their EULA states that
>> they're not responsible if I get into trouble from my employer, so maybe there is a
>> risk, or are they just convering themself? Thoughts appreciated, with cites, please.
>
> Your employer doesn't want its employees wasting its time viewing websites like Facebook. If you circumvent that by loading your
> own software, you would almost certainly be in breach of your employer's rules. You know that. You might also be committing a
> criminal offence by loading your own software in that way.
There's no breach because I'm NOT loading my own software. It's just done by
>
> "Question" <nos...@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:4ecafbc7$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Hi peeps, got a legal question regarding an app called ControlByMail at www.vic2pc.com.
>> Basically, it lets you remotely control your home PC from school or work, and lets you
>> view Facebook at work via email. My question is: at my job, we're not allowed to view
>> websites like Facebook and they're actually denied from loading with the firewall or
>> proxy setup by the engineers. Do you think if I used ControlByMail to view Facebook
>> by email, that it would be breaking my job's internet policies? I'm assuming that it
>> wouldn't, because I'm not actually trying to load a banned website; I'm just viewing
>> it as an email attachment, so there's no bypassing of the web filters as such. Know
>> what I'm getting at? I should be safe to use it? I note that their EULA states that
>> they're not responsible if I get into trouble from my employer, so maybe there is a
>> risk, or are they just convering themself? Thoughts appreciated, with cites, please.
>
> Your employer doesn't want its employees wasting its time viewing websites like Facebook. If you circumvent that by loading your
> own software, you would almost certainly be in breach of your employer's rules. You know that. You might also be committing a
> criminal offence by loading your own software in that way.
email, like if I emailed you something at work. Where's the "loading"? I can
tell you didn't check out the app to know what I'm talking about, so you can't
really pass judgement without all the facts. This is aus.LEGAL, where strict
rules of the law are the only concern. But you should know that.
Oh, and thanks for trying to redirect this to alt.f*ckwits. Nice try!
Phil Allison
Nov 22, 2011, 12:34:42 AM11/22/11
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"Question = ASD FUCKED MORON "
> There's no breach because I'm NOT loading my own software.
Your employer will interpret their OWN policy as they wish.
> This is aus.LEGAL, where strict
> rules of the law are the only concern.
Your employer will interpret their OWN policy as they wish.
And amend it at whim if need be.
YOU GET NO SAY - FUCKWIT
... Phil
F Murtz
Nov 22, 2011, 1:31:49 AM11/22/11
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people from stealing company time doing personal stuff so although you
may not be breaching a particular rule, the company may still think you
are stealing their time that they pay for.
Question
Nov 22, 2011, 3:43:53 AM11/22/11
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"F Murtz" <hag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:jaffkl$vvu$1...@dont-email.me...
Thanks for your comment. Somebody with manners here! :)
Jeßus
Nov 22, 2011, 5:18:20 PM11/22/11
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:22:13 +1000, "Question" <nos...@mailinator.com>
wrote:
So, you want to circumvent your employer's rules, potentially creating
ill will between yourself and your employer (at best) - all for
time-wasting rubbish like Faecebook? Hell, yes, go right ahead...
knock yourself out.
wrote:
ill will between yourself and your employer (at best) - all for
time-wasting rubbish like Faecebook? Hell, yes, go right ahead...
knock yourself out.
Question
Nov 22, 2011, 9:38:41 PM11/22/11
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"Jeßus" <no...@all.invalid> wrote in message news:vo7oc717nln1aouce...@4ax.com...
> So, you want to circumvent your employer's rules, potentially creating
> ill will between yourself and your employer (at best) - all for
> time-wasting rubbish like Faecebook? Hell, yes, go right ahead...
> knock yourself out.
For the last time - how is this circumventing rules? The rules apply
to WEBSITES, not EMAIL. That's my whole point! The rule is that you
cannot browse, or attempt to browse, WEBSITES. What I do with email
is a DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH. So, my legal question is: if I get
Facebook updates by email, I should be able to legally defend that
action since I never broke their BROWSING rules, correct?
> So, you want to circumvent your employer's rules, potentially creating
> ill will between yourself and your employer (at best) - all for
> time-wasting rubbish like Faecebook? Hell, yes, go right ahead...
> knock yourself out.
to WEBSITES, not EMAIL. That's my whole point! The rule is that you
cannot browse, or attempt to browse, WEBSITES. What I do with email
is a DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH. So, my legal question is: if I get
Facebook updates by email, I should be able to legally defend that
action since I never broke their BROWSING rules, correct?
Phil Allison
Nov 22, 2011, 9:06:24 PM11/22/11
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"Question = FUCKWIT "
> For the last time - how is this circumventing rules? The rules apply
> to WEBSITES, not EMAIL. That's my whole point! The rule is that you
> cannot browse, or attempt to browse, WEBSITES. What I do with email
> is a DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH. So, my legal question is: if I get
> Facebook updates by email, I should be able to legally defend that
> action since I never broke their BROWSING rules, correct?
Using a work around to view Facebook etc is still browsing.
BTW You are a mental retard.
.... Phil
Magma
Nov 22, 2011, 11:45:55 PM11/22/11
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You won't accept it, but the legal position is in this kind of situation is
that, what you can't do directly, you can't do indirectly. You don't want
to ask your employer the question, because you know the answer.
Unless you have already tried it out, and the employer is now set to
sanction you. You won't like it, but you don't have a legal leg to stand
on.
that, what you can't do directly, you can't do indirectly. You don't want
to ask your employer the question, because you know the answer.
Unless you have already tried it out, and the employer is now set to
sanction you. You won't like it, but you don't have a legal leg to stand
on.
Frenton
Nov 22, 2011, 11:59:57 PM11/22/11
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You do have some sort of point. If you are allowed to view personal emails
at work, which I doubt you are, then technically you might be able to get
away with it.
But why would you want to risk it? Even though you are only using email,
your employer might still deem it as looking at websites. You think any
court will look kindly on you when are stuffing around at work on Facebook?
No chance!
at work, which I doubt you are, then technically you might be able to get
away with it.
But why would you want to risk it? Even though you are only using email,
your employer might still deem it as looking at websites. You think any
court will look kindly on you when are stuffing around at work on Facebook?
No chance!
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