penetrating oils tested
Zebee Johnstone
Subject: [MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN] Fw: Penetrating Oil
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:04:22 +0200
From: Guy <guy.h...@skynet.be>
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Subject: [MHml] Penetrating Oil
> But I think most will excuse the bandwidth given the value of the
> information and the fact that we _all_ use the stuff ..... assuming
always
> that its true
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Penetrating Oils Compared
>
> Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break
> out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a
subjective
> test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the
> torque
> required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted"
> environment.
>
> Penetrating oil ..... Average load
>
> None ..................... 516 pounds
>
> WD-40 .................. 238 pounds
>
> PB Blaster ..............214 pounds
>
> Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds
>
> Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
>
> ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds
>
> The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic
> transmission fluid and acetone. **** See addendum below ***
>
> Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this
> one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and
> all now
> use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is
about
> as
> good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.
>
**** Addendum:
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FWIW,
"However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix
-- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in
the
magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of
power steering fluid -- not ATF."
cheers,
Michael
Deevo
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Interesting. I wonder why the more commonly known products in this country
were missing from the list. I would like to see how CRC, Inox and RP7
compared. Particularly Inox which has a good reputation amont the workshops
around my area.
> "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix
> -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in
> the
> magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of
> power steering fluid -- not ATF."
Depends on the type. Both products are types of hydraulic oils and many
manufacturers actually use ATF in their power steering systems.
--
Deevo
Geraldton Western Australia
theo
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>
> FWIW,
>
> "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix
> -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in
> the
> magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of
> power steering fluid -- not ATF."
There are two types of ATF, not to be mixed or interchanged. ATF type
A is, i'm told, often used as Power steering fluid.
http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/306.cfm
Theo
ross_w
ATF is easy enough to get, but try buying acetone without being put on
some terrorist watch list.
Marty H
bunnings..
no problems
mh
George W Frost
"Marty H" <hyt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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bunnings..
no problems
mh
***********
Either Bunnings or Supercheap or any paint store
F Murtz
atec7 7
>>
>> ATF is easy enough to get, but try buying acetone without being put on
>> some terrorist watch list.
> Any hardware, paintshops, fibreglass outlets, some supermarkets.
The atf is the working bit the acetone can be bought or substituted with
gp thinners or turps with success
alx
>
> Interesting. I wonder why the more commonly known products in this country
> were missing from the list. I would like to see how CRC, Inox and RP7
> compared. Particularly Inox which has a good reputation amont the workshops
> around my area.
No list of penetration oils would be complete without also adding KY
or anything relating to sheep, such as lanolin-based lubes (eg my fav
multipurpose lanotech oils and greases).
Would KY loosen nuts?
atec7 7
or is it a personal enquiry ?>
alx
Wellington Boots? You have a rubber fetish?
theo
>
> - Show quoted text -
If you only want a small amount, it's on your wife's/girlfriend's
dressing table, in a little bottle labelled nail varnish remover.
Theo
BT Humble
> If you only want a small amount, it's on your wife's/girlfriend's
> dressing table, in a little bottle labelled nail varnish remover.
Unfortunately most nail polish removers are scented and/or contain
"moisturising oils" which prevent the acetone from working as a surface
cleaner (I found this when I bought nail polish remover for clean/degrease
wooden arrow shafts prior to gluing on the plastic vanes).
I ended up buying a half-litre tin of straight acetone from Bunnings,
which should last quite a while since I only use it for that purpose. I
emptied the nail polish remover bottle, rinsed it with acetone, and now
use it to hold a small working quantity from the tin.
BTH
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George W Frost
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Theo
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True Theo, but most nail polish removers have oil in them, you have to buy
the remover without oil
George W Frost
"BT Humble" <YnRAaHVtYmxldG93bi5vcmc=@REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote
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Damn, I missed your post before I sent my reply to Theo
But, BT, you have to make triply sure that you seal the main container as it
will find an escape route and evaporate without you knowing and when you go
to get a bit more from the shed, there is bugger all left.
Marty H
> "theo" <theodo...@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
IIRC, most nail polish removers are now Acetone free,
mh
George W Frost
mh
************
Well Marty, I really wouldn't know
as I haven't had the occasion to use it
atec7 7
failing to be elusive
Marty H
your wife doesn't use it ?
mh
Moike
soon as you see the 'words' you just know.
Moike
George W Frost
mh
*************
My wife .....wife???
she walked out on me , couldn't put up with me any longer,
Thought that the grass was much greener on the other side of the fence
What she didn't know, was that someone had sprayed round-up in that paddock
When she found that the grass wasn't that green, she wanted to come back to
my paddock,
but I pointed her in the direction of the locked gate between the paddocks.
She didn't get back into my paddock and wonder of wonders, I have had great
pastures and good crops since then.
No-one to share it with except my two rotties
Marty H
shit.. I mentioned the war
mh
(7 years ago I came home to note, it was her or the motorcycles... gee
I love my motorcycles)
George W Frost
Not a war as far as I was concerned, she declared war on me and wanted 75%
of what I had
I told her solicitor to tell to to go and get well and truly fucked instead
of mamby pambying around with dead-beats.
He then came back with a "special deal" for me, with a 50% sharing of MY
assetts, not a mention of anything she happened to own, but all mine.
I told him again to get fucked along with her and didn't hear a squeak out
of him any further
She rings me up on the odd occasion, maybe every 6 months and abuses me for
deludung her and ripping her off,
I put the phone on speakerphone and go back to what I was doing before.
She rants on for about an hour, for which I don't give a flying fuck because
I live in a small village a long way out of the suburbian local telephone
range and it costs her STD charges to call, so I let her go,
she is not spending my money.
When I hear a lull in the proceedings, I go back and pick the phone up and
say
"What?"
then if she goes on again, I go back to what I did before, if not
then she usually hangs up cursing me till the next call.
I love my motorcycles also and have 4 sheds and a carport of them
BT Humble
>
> On Apr 19, 11:23?pm, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My wife .....wife???
> >
> > she walked out on me , couldn't put up with me any longer,
> > Thought that the grass was much greener on the other side of the fence
> > What she didn't know, was that someone had sprayed round-up in that paddock
> > When she found that the grass wasn't that green, she wanted to come back to
> > my paddock,
> > but I pointed her in the direction of the locked gate between the paddocks.
> > She didn't get back into my paddock and wonder of wonders, I have had great
> > pastures and good crops since then.
> > No-one to share it with except my two rotties
>
> shit.. I mentioned the war
>
> mh
> (7 years ago I came home to note, it was her or the motorcycles... gee
> I love my motorcycles)
There you go! I knew you boys would find some common ground eventually!
Lars Chance
(about acetone)
> Any hardware, paintshops, fibreglass outlets, some supermarkets.
>
And my homebrew vats after I leave them a few weeks between cleanings!
--
Elsie.