0-100km/h and 400m times
Laurence
Does anyone have any legit (preferably time slips) performance figures
for a modern sports bike.
I was reading one of the usual performance vs. cost, cars vs. bikes
threads that pop up every so often on aus.cars and some guy was claiming
0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
I've dragged off modified Subaru WankerRX's on my Fireblade, but I dunno
if a little RGV could do the same trick with a 911 turbo or something
really fast (i.e. a legit 4s car)
Rider skill plays so much more of a part in accelerating a bike anyway.
So assuming a "good" rider, what performance figure will a bike give?
Laurence
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RH
?
I presume your big drag race was in a straight line ? You see a WRX is only
a car, and I wouldn't see the joy in racing one on a Fireblade, it's really
no contest in a straight line, but throw in some corners and it might wipe
the smile from your face.
FYI.
I once chased a ZX9 down the Clyde mountain to Batemans Bay, and funny how
he was holding me up in the twisty section, when the road opened up he soon
left me, so don't under estimate a WRX in tight twisty's, especially if it's
raining.
Rod
Laurence <lej...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Troy Shean
Dead set, give yourself an upper cut.
"but throw in some corners and it might wipe the smile from your
face.....and funny how he was holding me up in the twisty section"
Yeah, hilarious!!!!
Jeez, listen to yourself, if only I could be as good as you think you are.
Do us all a favour, sell your bike and find a WankerRX newsgroup to expouse
this crap in.
TS
RH <rherber...@interact.net.au> wrote in message
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leanangle
What chance does a normal WRX have against a big bore sportsbike if an STi
can't even beat a CBR 250R
I seriously doubt that you could even stay in a ZX-9R's mirrors let alone
with the actual bike....
Plus the simple fact is he was still in front of you in your little dream
and I doubt if you could take him, but if you were in front he would have
taken you in a second, leaving you with your hand on the wrong gearstick....
>>
>
>Reminder !!!!! You are still in a cage and when you try to overtake you are
on the other side of the road forever, whereas a bike, it takes a split
second, anywhere, anytime.
Don't think that because you can beat a Hyundai Exel that you are any match
for a sportsbike !!!
leanangle ZX-9R
CrazyCam
>
> Well I am a Subaru WankerRX driver, but does owning bikes still make me one
> ?
Probably.
> I presume your big drag race was in a straight line ? You see a WRX is only
> a car, and I wouldn't see the joy in racing one on a Fireblade, it's really
> no contest in a straight line, but throw in some corners and it might wipe
> the smile from your face.
"Only a car".......hmmm, maybe not, you might be an OK person after all.
Frankly, I wouldn't piss on one of them if it was on fire.
> I once chased a ZX9 down the Clyde mountain to Batemans Bay, and funny how
> he was holding me up in the twisty section, when the road opened up he soon
> left me, so don't under estimate a WRX in tight twisty's, especially if it's
> raining.
But, as you yourself said earlier, it _is_ "only a car" so who around
aus.motorcycles gives a shit?
regards,
CrazyCam
Kelly La Velle
> figures
> for a modern sports bike.
"Performance Bikes" magazine have all their 0 to 6mph times (and
quarter mile times) on a website. (sorry don't have the URL on me
right now).
These are generally 'tested' times as opposed to manufacturer's claimed
times.
However of course you'd want to find an equivalent site for cars.
some guy was
> claiming
> 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
Not an unreasonable claim ...
> I've dragged off modified Subaru WankerRX's on my Fireblade, but I
> dunno
> if a little RGV could do the same trick with a 911 turbo
well it depends *which* 930 you mean. They've been in production since
the mid-seventies.
> Rider skill plays so much more of a part in accelerating a bike
> anyway.
Indeed. Also any four wheel drive car has a big advantage over both
2wd cars and bikes due to the effecient "launch" achieved by putting
the power through all four wheels.
> So assuming a "good" rider, what performance figure will a bike
> give?
does it really, really matter? Even at quite low speeds a bike offers
vastly more feedback, involvement and pure fun than any car.
The latest Jeremy Clarkson video shows a Porsche 996 4WD turbo going
around (I think) Brands Hatch against an R1. The car beats the R1 -
only just - but the exercise, whilst interesting, is ultimately utterly
pointless. The Porsche is not "better" than the R1, just a totally
different way of going fast. Both are wonderful performance machines.
Comparisons on the street are even more pointless, such as the WRX/ZX-9
one. The WRX has vast mechanical grip and is compliant enough to save
even the most hamfisted drivers. Just look at the rate at which WRX
consume tyres. A WRX driver can kidd himself he's Schumacher and the
car will humour him, he can go off the tarmac onto the gravel verge and
the car will carry on regardless. Obviously the guy on the ZX-9 is not
able to do any of that, and the consquences for the bike rider are far
higher if he overcooks it. So we cannot take the street comparison
seriously, and hopefully our WRX driver won't either.
If you want to get into really pointless comparisons, have a look at
the lap times achieved by superkarts, modded bikes, sport sedans et al
at any racetrack.
Kelly
1 x bike
3 x cars
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jimbo
However a WRX & plenty of other good cars will turn faster than any road
bike.
Bikes have power-to-weight all over cars, no question. Straightline no
problem.
They're also able to carve a gentler arc through roundabouts and curves
simply
because they're slimmer. But a car can get away with murder on the brakes
and
execute controlled drifts through corners like a bike can't. Unless you're
Gobert ; )
jimbo nc30
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> Well I am a Subaru WankerRX driver, but does owning bikes still make me
one
> ?
>
> I presume your big drag race was in a straight line ? You see a WRX is
only
> a car, and I wouldn't see the joy in racing one on a Fireblade, it's
really
> no contest in a straight line, but throw in some corners and it might wipe
> the smile from your face.
>
> FYI.
> I once chased a ZX9 down the Clyde mountain to Batemans Bay, and funny how
> he was holding me up in the twisty section, when the road opened up he
soon
> left me, so don't under estimate a WRX in tight twisty's, especially if
it's
> raining.
>
> Rod
>
>
>
>
> Laurence <lej...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8348qm$6es$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any legit (preferably time slips) performance figures
> > for a modern sports bike.
> >
> > I was reading one of the usual performance vs. cost, cars vs. bikes
> > threads that pop up every so often on aus.cars and some guy was claiming
> > 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
> >
> > I've dragged off modified Subaru WankerRX's on my Fireblade, but I dunno
> > if a little RGV could do the same trick with a 911 turbo or something
> > really fast (i.e. a legit 4s car)
> >
> > Rider skill plays so much more of a part in accelerating a bike anyway.
> > So assuming a "good" rider, what performance figure will a bike give?
> >
Neil Wade
bends. Yes in the wet a WRX may have a higher cornering speed than a ZX-9R
but in the dry no way. Any way if I had a ZX-9R there would be no way I'd
risk flinging it into the trees ona wet road so he probaly wasn't even
trying.
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Aaron
Me riding...
Aaron
CBR250RR
Neil Wade
David Figueira
NaaAAAAAaaaaaahhhh... let's just sit at our PC's all day and shitcan any and
all opposing views!!!
:)
<insert vigorous sniggering here so folks know i'm kidding around>
So... how about this Sunday? (yer bank balance permitting, naturally!)
Destination: home, eventually :)
Distance: negotiable (how about a 200-400km loop someplace?)
Requisites: CORNERZ!!!
Additional requisites: MORE CORNERS.
If someone with a sense of direction like Trev or Kelly (or you Neil... it's
me who hasn't got any ride development skills) wants to dream up a ride...
how about a post to set it up? i'll tag along.
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Laurence
>
> some guy was
> > claiming
> > 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
>
How do you know?
Thanks to Aaron we know that a CBR250RR does a legit 14.8 sec for the
1/4 mile.
So it seems unreasonable that a bike with an extra 10hp can knock almost
3 secs of that mile time, unless Aaron is a total fat bastard ;) (Not
that anyone in this ng would be)
> > I dunno if a little RGV could do the same trick with a 911 turbo
>
> well it depends *which* 930 you mean. They've been in production since
> the mid-seventies.
The 993, given that it has similar performance to the RGV guy's claim.
So this would mean that if Mr RGV lined up a 993 Turbo he's be neck and
neck with it 400m later (which I find hard to believe)
[snip]
> does it really, really matter?
No, but I'd really, really like to know.
Laurence
Kelly La Velle
> > some guy was
> > > claiming
> > > 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
> >
> > Not an unreasonable claim ...
> How do you know?
It's "not unreasonable", old bean, because of the variables that exist.
For a start, the times you originally nominated are pretty close to
what Ducati claims for it's "I've got a small one" Monster 600. The
RGV should have at least as much squirt with a light rider.
Secondly, you need to take into account:
Is the bike meant to be showroom standard? Or fiddled with to get a
better launch at the dragstrip? (ie solid rear suspension setup etc)
Also, these times are always subject to a little judicious rounding; a
4.8 second time can become "about 4 seconds" in the pub.
Having said all that ... I really don't give a bugger how quick an RGV
is anyway, but when you look at some of the times that bigger bikes are
capable of, which are tremendously impressive, then the RGV times don't
seem totally batty to me.
> Thanks to Aaron we know that a CBR250RR does a legit 14.8 sec for
> the
> 1/4 mile.
> So it seems unreasonable that a bike with an extra 10hp can knock
> almost
> 3 secs of that mile time, unless Aaron is a total fat bastard ;)
Power to weight makes a huge difference. EG: one of my cars (weighs
680kg, plus me 53kg) can do a 14.4 in totally standard trim at the
Ravenswood drag strip. That's revving it to 6000 rpm (not the 7000
redline) and not abusing the clutch on the launch or anything
mechanically unsympathetic. Now it can do that time consistently if
I'm driving it, and I am no expert at drag runs. Put a 90kg driver in
the same car, he can rev it to the limiter, do horrid cruel-to-clutch
launches and generally drive his bollocks off, but the power to weight
with a 90kg driver still only gives him a 14.7 absolute best. If you
extrapolate this kind of performance difference to a bike (RGV weighs
what? 160kg)it does make quite a big difference. Maybe the guy in the
RGV is a skinny little bastard.
>
> > does it really, really matter?
> No, but I'd really, really like to know.
Well then, go lookup that PB bikes site, there's more stats there than
you can poke an RGV at.
KLV
1996 GSX250F Across (probably about 16 seconds over the quarter mile if
you're lucky)
Hobbez
>
> Does anyone have any legit (preferably time slips) performance figures
> for a modern sports bike.
>
> I was reading one of the usual performance vs. cost, cars vs. bikes
> 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
>
At Ravenswood drags last year I met a lad on an RGV who was doing 13.5s
all night. That seemed to be about all it had. He didn't have any trick
bits on it at all, not even a set of cans.
And a '98 GSX-R did a 10.8. HALLO BAY-BEE!
Greg
'96 GSX-R750
Trev
> > > > claiming
> > > > 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
> > >
RGV weighs about the same as my DR650 which I have dyno'd at 33 rear wheel
horsepower on a good day. Me (read fat bastard) got a 14.6 out of it at the
strip. RGV has double the power, therefore 12 second quarter miles are
totally realistic.
Trev
Hobbez
PICK ME FATCAT! Sunday sounds fuggin trick to me, I'll have scrubbed in
a brand spankin' front BT56 by then. Just the shot after a hard Saturday
nights cappucino-ing at the Pavilion.
Greg
'96 GSX-R750
Ted Palmer
[...]
>RGV weighs about the same as my DR650 which I have dyno'd at 33 rear wheel
>horsepower on a good day.
Yech, that's a bit sad. My well-used KLR600 manages 35 on the dyno.
> Me (read fat bastard) got a 14.6 out of it at the
>strip. RGV has double the power, therefore 12 second quarter miles are
>totally realistic.
Dunno about _double_ the power. Besides, the peaky RGV is a lot
trickier to get off the line.
I've got a metric "G-Tech/Pro" I want to try out on the bikes one day.
Mister_T
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Antony
> I once chased a ZX9 down the Clyde mountain to Batemans Bay, and
> funny how
> he was holding me up in the twisty section, when the road opened
> up he soon
> left me, so don't under estimate a WRX in tight twisty's,
> especially if it's
> raining.
Last time I did arthurs seat I had a WRX up my ass on the way down. I
turned around and wen't back up at a leisurely pace to meet the GF when
I looked in my rear view and there he was again trying to race me.
Needless to say I was kinda peeved and took off.
Guess who wasn't up my ass for much longer. Must have been thrown by
the L-Plate.
Why say you can corner fast why not compare over the same stretch of
road. Oh yeah I forgot how many inches of tyre contact does a WRX have
to put down its power 4 wheels by 7 in I spose for all 206kw of a
STi. with what 1.4 tonne pushing it dowards.
Trying putting a power to weight ratio that far exceeds yours on 1-2in
of contact rubber. (not that my stroker has a shit hot power/weight)
Antony
RGV 250
Kelly La Velle
> judgement.
Fair 'nuff
> Anyway one of the variables could be that the RGV is being dropped
> from
> a 400m bridge.
Oooh, could we drop the WRX from the bridge instead please?
> The
> > RGV should have at least as much squirt with a light rider.
> Please post the claimed times, this is what I was hoping for.
Well, I *did* look 'em up for you when I got home. PB Mag tested an
RGV in 1992 and they got 12.85 sec for the quarter mile in it.
For the sake of comparison I did have a rummage for 911 times, but
annoyingly all the data I had was for 0 to 60mph times, not quarter
mile times.
> Please post the URL if you know it.
Sorry it's on the PC at home. I'll pop it through to you when I log on
at home.
> Anyway, while you were writing your reply I found some more info
> (Which I've posted so other people can look it up too)
Sorted!
> p.s. This reminds me of when I wanted to know how to adjust my
> chain and
> the most common answer I got was that it was "easy".
RTFM is probably the best bet.
cheers
KLV
GSX250F
no 4WD of any sort
"As you can see, visually, with your eyes..." (MW)
Antony
> Very interesting thread this, a few RGV facts....
> Race RGV
> * 144kgs wet (my bike weighed at Mallala ARRC)
How in the hell can you get the bike to drop that many kilo's?
Road going version is 139kg dry.
Add 17 litres petrol
1 litre of 2 stroke oil
1.5 litre g/box oil and radiator oil and I spose you hit the 165kg mark
easy.
I assume you remove all blinkers, number plates, headlight (?),
passenger pegs but that would be luckly to add up to 8kg.
Is it all a big secret ;)
Maybe I just better go on a diet rather than replacing all bolts with
something 3% lighter :)
Cheer
Antony
RGV (who wishes his 19,000 km old RGV had 58 rwhp )
Laurence
http://www.hutch.com.au/~11223761/Time.htm
Which had exactly the info I wanted:
CBR900RR at Eastern Creek, 11.4s @ 122.48mph
So in conclusion, the guy in aus.cars that said an RGV250 can do 12sec
1/4 miles has got his hand on it.
So now that is settled and I have my new front tyre and a beach house at
Apollo Bay, I can go and ride round some of those corner things everyone
seems so keen on.
Laurence
CBR900RR
p.s. No wonder the ZX9R got the WRX in a straight line
http://www.speeddemons.com/zx-9r.html
Laurence
> > > > some guy was claiming
> > > > 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
> > > Not an unreasonable claim ...
> > How do you know?
>
> It's "not unreasonable", old bean, because of the variables that exist.
Yes, but as I have no benchmark figure I cannot make that judgement.
Anyway one of the variables could be that the RGV is being dropped from
a 400m bridge.
> For a start, the times you originally nominated are pretty close to
> what Ducati claims for it's "I've got a small one" Monster 600. The
> RGV should have at least as much squirt with a light rider.
Please post the claimed times, this is what I was hoping for.
> Secondly, you need to take into account:
> Is the bike meant to be showroom standard?
Yes
[snip]
> 4.8 second time can become "about 4 seconds" in the pub.
True
> Having said all that ... I really don't give a bugger how quick an RGV
> is anyway, but when you look at some of the times that bigger bikes are
> capable of, which are tremendously impressive, then the RGV times don't
> seem totally batty to me.
Aaaaarrrgh!!!!
I haven't seem any of these times, that's why I'm asking!!!
> > Thanks to Aaron we know that a CBR250RR does a legit 14.8 sec for
> > the 1/4 mile.
> > So it seems unreasonable that a bike with an extra 10hp can knock
> > almost 3 secs of that mile time,
> > unless Aaron is a total fat bastard ;)
>
> Power to weight makes a huge difference...Maybe the guy in the
> RGV is a skinny little bastard.
Good point, especially on a bike
> > > does it really, really matter?
> > No, but I'd really, really like to know.
> Well then, go lookup that PB bikes site, there's more stats there than
> you can poke an RGV at.
AAAaaaargh!!! I can't look up sites that I can't find!!!
Please post the URL if you know it.
Anyway, while you were writing your reply I found some more info
(Which I've posted so other people can look it up too)
Laurence
Richard Fay
>
> Well how cares what it can do in a straight line. I prefer flying round the
> bends. Yes in the wet a WRX may have a higher cornering speed than a ZX-9R
> but in the dry no way.
How naive you are.
You opinion is not one held by most people who frequent Mt White. A
popular place for both sports bike and car owners.
There is a begrudging respect of the WRX's abilities on that road.
When it comes down to REAL roads (you know, bumps in corners, off
camber, road debris, slow speed corners) the WRX does have a small yet
distinct advantage over most sports bikes.
Richard
ZX6R
306 Gti-6
Adrian Hodgson
or vice versa? I wouldn't be chucking ANY and I mean ANY bike through
those bends. 60km/h posted for the bottom part and many blind turns on
a very narrow road with a rock wall on one side. Yes Mr WRX, you are a
wanker.
Linc
Do I get to spend the 40K or so a wrx costs on the sports bike I use to
humiliate your WRX?
Oh thats right...I don't actually need to..... 12K would be more than
adequate.
Linc
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Trev
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> "Trev" <mcn...@accessin.com.au> wrote:
>
> Yech, that's a bit sad. My well-used KLR600 manages 35 on the dyno.
>
Depends whose dyno you use, whether you mention actual horsepower or SAE
corrected horsepower etc. Have you had it at the strip ?
An RGV maybe harder to get off the line, but it is a whole lot more than a
second faster than the DR.
jimbo
Kelly La Velle <kelly....@woodside.com.au> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > some guy was
> > > > claiming
> > > > 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
> > >
> > > Not an unreasonable claim ...
> > How do you know?
>
> It's "not unreasonable", old bean, because of the variables that exist.
> what Ducati claims for it's "I've got a small one" Monster 600. The
> RGV should have at least as much squirt with a light rider.
I should say so- 600 Monsters are SLOW
Shawn Foo
>Also, these times are always subject to a little judicious rounding; a
>4.8 second time can become "about 4 seconds" in the pub.
Well.. from what I've heard in perf circles, saying you
did the quarter in 12's could mean anything from 12.0 to 12.9
Typical mag headlines are something like Victor Bray does the
quarter in 5's! His time being 5.99 or something.
>Well then, go lookup that PB bikes site, there's more stats there than
>you can poke an RGV at.
When I last checked, they were doing a revamp at the PB site and that
page seems to have disappeared. Quite annoying too 'cause I wanted to
know what the top speed and hp of a CT110 were too..
Anyway, from memory, the times for a an RGV ranged from about
12.7 to 13.5 depending on which model you had..
Shawn Foo
GPX-250 (Anon) -> Suzuki Bandit 600 (Foolan)
jimbo
>
> When I last checked, they were doing a revamp at the PB site ...
Where's the PB site ?
jimbo nc30
Aaron
Although everyone at the strip seems to winge about it being slow...
e.g.. CBR600 12 flat
VL turbo 14 flat when he has had 13.2's before
Although they did have traction probs. not an issue here. :)
I will have to go out and give it another go next time....
Aaron
CBR250RR
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DavidF.au
:)
DavidF.au
YZF1000
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Aaron wrote in message <836u5v$esc$1...@news1.mpx.com.au>...
Chris Jordan
wrote:
>A bit of rumaging through Altavista sent me off to
>
>http://www.hutch.com.au/~11223761/Time.htm
>
>Which had exactly the info I wanted:
>
>CBR900RR at Eastern Creek, 11.4s @ 122.48mph
>
>So in conclusion, the guy in aus.cars that said an RGV250 can do 12sec
>1/4 miles has got his hand on it.
Very interesting thread this, a few RGV facts....
Race RGV
* 144kgs wet (my bike weighed at Mallala ARRC)
* 60 rear wheel SAE corrected hp (look anywhere, they vary in bog
standard form from 58-62hp)
* top speed 232kmh at Phillip Island with a slight tail wind and 15/43
gearing (Taplins Aprilia RS250 showed an indicated 238kmh!)
* 12.1 quarter mile with 14/45 final gearing and 65kg
* 1:45.5 around Phillip Island (Scotty Charlton)
Road RGV
* 165kgs wet as an educated guess (AMCN have it somewhere)
* Same hp as race bikes (no mods allowed on the race bikes)
* 1:54.4 around Phillip Island (me riding)
So what does this prove? That the RGV is fast for a 250, can be
punted around a race track in standard form faster than any WRX (from
motor mag with DJ/JB driving) and thats about it.
But as someone else said, whats the point of comparing cars and bikes?
Its about as pointless as comparing a F1 car to a GP500 bike.
One thing that comes across is that testostrone is rampant in society
today and you will never convince a drag racer that corners are
important, the same as you'll never stop a road racer laughing at drag
racing. In the end they are totally different.
*shrug* my 5cents
Chris
RGV #28
Shawn Foo
http://www.motorcycleworld.co.uk/mags/perfbike/perfdata/index.htm
but now you can only get to motorcycle world at:
http://www.motorcycleworld.co.uk/
The PB bit seems to have gone altogether.
--
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GPX-250 (Anon) -> Suzuki Bandit 600 (Foolan)
jimbo wrote in message ...
Aaron
I've got a fat bastard but I'm not a fat bastard. :)
Aaron
CBR250RR
DavidF.au <david_f...@primus.com.au> wrote in message
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Rocket
0-100 in 3.5
0-100-0 in 5
CBR900RR
0 -100 3.1
I think the best 1/4 miler is still the Kwaka 900 in around 9
Cannot confirm, but they are ballpark figures as a guideline.
I am sure there are a hell of a lot of pedantic Mr Experts who will spend
wasted time disputing times, but why bother.
Yesterday, I got hassled by a jerk on the Melb Eastern Freeway on my way
home.
He came up behind from no where, singled me out in traffic I assume,
tailgaited me. I changed lanes, so did he, I slowed below the speed limit,
stayed there...
Now I dont much like that kind of thing, especially one of those shiny
re-conditioned wide, ugly, heavy, OLD GTHO falcons "right up my clacker"
(thanks Bazza) so in the midst of the medium to heavy traffic.
No I dont care what they think, I can outbrake them. If I have to do an
emergency slow down from 100, he would be hitting me.
I took a break in the traffic and lost him for dead 2 gaps in the traffic
and 2 lane changes.
Why the fuck do they bother? I could have lost him on any decent 600, I did
not even need to lane split or "cheat" to lose him.
I then backed off and watched him change 3,4, maybe 5 lanes to weave to
catch up. I just kept a car or two ahead, then I just got the timing and
break/gaps in the traffic right, and changed across and turned off the
freeway.
Sometimes, I just want to get home, without that all shit.
Regards
- Rocket
Laurence <lej...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Does anyone have any legit (preferably time slips) performance figures
> for a modern sports bike.
>
> I was reading one of the usual performance vs. cost, cars vs. bikes
> threads that pop up every so often on aus.cars and some guy was claiming
> 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
>
> I've dragged off modified Subaru WankerRX's on my Fireblade, but I dunno
> if a little RGV could do the same trick with a 911 turbo or something
> really fast (i.e. a legit 4s car)
>
> Rider skill plays so much more of a part in accelerating a bike anyway.
> So assuming a "good" rider, what performance figure will a bike give?
>
> Laurence
>
> --
> Did you know that 97.3% of statistics are made up
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Khaled Abdu
Rocket wrote:
> Yesterday, I got hassled by a jerk on the Melb Eastern Freeway on my way
> home.
<snip some sad but true stuff about stupid people>
>
> Sometimes, I just want to get home, without that all shit.
>
Here. Here.
Last Friday I was going home up Pennant Hills Rd. I lane split up to the front
at a set of lights and blipped the throttle as I usually do just to let the
cars at the front know I was there before edging in front of them. I pulled out
in front of a guy wearing nothing but a pair of Oakley shades, a backwards
baseball cap and bum fluff under his nose driving a VK V8 Commodore.
I noticed all this because I turned my and looked after stopping and hearing
the car just behind and to my right being revved very aggressively. When the
guy noticed me looking he put his patented "mean motherf**ker" look and sneared
at me. My bike's pretty loud and maybe he thought I wanted a drag. He wishes.
On another day I may have put the sidestand down, walked over and headbutted
him with my helmet. But I'd had a long hard and day and just wanted to get home
in one piece. So I veered left just as the lights changed to let him past.
He accelerated past me after doing the customary, but woefully ineffectual,
burnout. When he realised I was not racing him he slowed down to about 50km/h
and waited for me to catch up. This didn't take long and I was getting
impatient with his liittle game so I waited a little till we were approaching
the next set of lights with some traffic already stopped ahead. Then I knocked
it down from 5th to 2nd. I went from behind him to in front of him before his
brain had time to process what to do next and then dabbed on the brakes and
slipped in between the stationary cars up ahead to get to the front of the
line, placing a few cars between us.
I took my time from there believing that I'd made my point. He disappeared from
view. I assume that he went home to his momma to cry in her bosom.
I have not time for hero cage drivers - especially when they put me in danger.
BTW, Rocket, I saw your website. Good stuff. Your bike must be an awesome ride.
--
Khaled
CB750K - Black Beauty
Maxima 30GV - anon (Yes, I know it's a cage but it's the only way to fly
when you can't ride).
"Heterosexual caucasian males were designed by majority groups
to subjugate political correctness."
Trev Holland
Trev
RGV#56
..
Laurence wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any legit (preferably time slips) performance figures
> for a modern sports bike.
>
> I was reading one of the usual performance vs. cost, cars vs. bikes
> threads that pop up every so often on aus.cars and some guy was claiming
> 0-100 for an RGV of 4sec and 12s 400m times
GSX1100EFE's (from back in the mid 80's) could manage 0-100 in 4 seconds
with any half decent rider, and much better if they had a clue. I've
lost to one on a drag club race day (way back when) who managed 0-100 in
3.2 seconds and was nailing 400m times of 9 seconds flat all day (doing
break out runs) and we were both on bog standard bikes. It's not at all unreasonable.
Doug Cox
<snip>
> GSX1100EFE's (from back in the mid 80's)
> nailing 400m times of 9 seconds flat all day (doing
> break out runs) and we were both on bog standard bikes.
Utter crap.
Doug Cox
Work to ride, Ride to work...
Doug...@Bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/Doug_Cox/
Trev
Doug Cox <Doug...@Bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> ".." <re...@its.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
> <snip>
> > GSX1100EFE's (from back in the mid 80's)
>
> > nailing 400m times of 9 seconds flat all day (doing
> > break out runs) and we were both on bog standard bikes.
>
> Utter crap.
I believe you may be right, the utter crap bit of course.
Trev
..
Doug Cox wrote:
>
> ".." <re...@its.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
> <snip>
> > GSX1100EFE's (from back in the mid 80's)
>
> > nailing 400m times of 9 seconds flat all day (doing
> > break out runs) and we were both on bog standard bikes.
>
> Utter crap.
Nope, sorry. Talk the Pegasus Bay Drag Club if you want or come along to
an open day next time your in NZ. Hell, I'll even see if I can jack up a
bike for you to play on.
The person concerned varied no more than 1 second over the course of the
whole day. There was a guy on a stock RG500 who was pulling *very*
consistent 10.6 second runs all day who eventually won after doing three
runs at 9.7, all in a row. I couldn't get it below 15 seconds on the
horrible thing I was riding, nor could I stay consistent. And I got to
be beaten by a wide range of bikes that day. :-)
Doug Cox
Or is Nitrous compulsory?
paulh
wrote:
>
>
>Doug Cox wrote:
>>
>> ".." <re...@its.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
>> <snip>
>> > GSX1100EFE's (from back in the mid 80's)
>>
>> > nailing 400m times of 9 seconds flat all day (doing
>> > break out runs) and we were both on bog standard bikes.
>>
>> Utter crap.
>
>Nope, sorry. Talk the Pegasus Bay Drag Club if you want or come along to
>an open day next time your in NZ. Hell, I'll even see if I can jack up a
>bike for you to play on.
Sorry....but I don't believe that a 10year old 'stock' EFE can do 400
meter times substantially faster than test riders (around the world)
can do on a Hayabusa.
paulh
Iain Chalmers
> Sorry....but I don't believe that a 10year old 'stock' EFE can do 400
> meter times substantially faster than test riders (around the world)
> can do on a Hayabusa.
>
> paulh
Ummm, a hayabusa is hardly optimised for quick 1/4 mile times...
Maybe with a change in gearing it'd be quicker...
big
Trev
> The person concerned varied no more than 1 second over the course of the
> whole day. There was a guy on a stock RG500 who was pulling *very*
> consistent 10.6 second runs all day who eventually won after doing three
> runs at 9.7, all in a row. I couldn't get it below 15 seconds on the
> horrible thing I was riding, nor could I stay consistent. And I got to
> be beaten by a wide range of bikes that day. :-)
Tell him to give one of the manufacturers a ring I am sure they would love
to sponsor him. Especially when one of the biggest PROFESSIONAL drag racers
that is fully sponsored can only get a 9.9 out of a ZX9R 9.7 out of a
Hayabusa and 9.5 out of a ZX12.
Trev
B. Bass
dribbled:
>There was a guy on a stock RG500 who was pulling *very*
>> consistent 10.6 second runs all day who eventually won after doing three
>> runs at 9.7, all in a row.
>
>
>Tell him to give one of the manufacturers a ring I am sure they would love
>to sponsor him. Especially when one of the biggest PROFESSIONAL drag racers
>that is fully sponsored can only get a 9.9 out of a ZX9R 9.7 out of a
>Hayabusa and 9.5 out of a ZX12.
>
>Trev
>
>
Maybe it was all in the takeoff??
B.Bass
David Figueira
Maybe the rider was on cocaine, and it just FELT like a nine second TRIP.
--
DavidF.au
YZF1000
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Doug Cox
<snip>
> Maybe it was all in the takeoff??
Bungee ASsisted TAke-off Reaction Device? Sheeit...
Rocket
The hayabusa is not a good example, they are simply too powerful from take
off to get a decent "jump"
The 900's are the best, with the Kwaka 9 hitting 9's last year.
The hayabusa could smoke the entire 400 meters.....
GO BUY A FRIGGIN MAGAZINE AND LOOK UP CORRECT TIMES FOR G's SAKE !
"Iain Chalmers" <big...@mightymedia.com.au> wrote in message
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abadonn
Chalmers) wrote:
>In article <385dd406...@news.bigpond.com>, me wrote:
>
>
>> Sorry....but I don't believe that a 10year old 'stock' EFE can do 400
>> meter times substantially faster than test riders (around the world)
>> can do on a Hayabusa.
>>
>> paulh
>
>Ummm, a hayabusa is hardly optimised for quick 1/4 mile times...
>
>Maybe with a change in gearing it'd be quicker...
thats not the point...the EFE was 'standard'.
A standard 'busa does low 10's...a standard EFE will NOT do 9 flat.
paulh
paulh
<cbrx...@bigpuddle.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>GUYS, GUYS, GUYS,
>The hayabusa is not a good example, they are simply too powerful from take
>off to get a decent "jump"
>The 900's are the best, with the Kwaka 9 hitting 9's last year.
>The hayabusa could smoke the entire 400 meters.....
>
>GO BUY A FRIGGIN MAGAZINE AND LOOK UP CORRECT TIMES FOR G's SAKE !
Really...care to name any mags that give standard EFE 400m
times...woops..10 years too late.
paulh
..
Doug Cox wrote:
>
> NZ metres are shorter than standard are they?
>
> Or is Nitrous compulsory?
:-) - your comment made me wonder about the figures myself and if my
memory was fading even faster than I thought it was. But after checking
my run readouts (I was surprised I even still had them!) I'm now certain
of the figures, baring the equipment itself either being (consistently,
all day) faulty or the distance being measured short. I can't see the
latter two as likely, however.
..
paulh wrote:
>
> Sorry....but I don't believe that a 10year old 'stock' EFE can do 400
> meter times substantially faster than test riders (around the world)
> can do on a Hayabusa.
It wasn't ten years old when it was doing them. Rather new, in fact.
Alan Pennykid
ever was) Sept '84
Standing 400m 11.14sec
Fastest run 11.1sec
Top gear acceleration
60-80 2.21
80-100 1.98
100-120 1.9
Remember this is on a new bike and journos dont always get
the best out of a machine that they barely know. The owner
of any bike/car can generally better road journos test times
once they get to know its characteristics and as the engine
loosens up. I'd expect mid 10s for an EFE would be easily
achievable, maybe low 10s with a good rider and a couple of
simple mods like tying the front end down. 9.0 sec for a
standard bike, not a chance.
I owned an XA Falcon van with 250 and 3 on the tree many
years ago. One of the mags road tested an XA sedan with
identical running gear(including diff ratio) and ran a 19.6
sec 1/4, I easily ran 18.1s at Castlereagh in it with the
extra drag and everything.
paulh <dee...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Martin Taylor
sp> Quick question.
sp> Do I get to spend the 40K or so a wrx costs on the sports bike I use
sp> to humiliate your WRX?
sp> Oh thats right...I don't actually need to..... 12K would be more than
sp> adequate.
And don't forget. A WRX can't get around slower traffic as well as a
bike can. I had this dick trying to race me down the GOR coming home
from Warnambool a few weeks back. He passed me near Port Campbell, when
we stopped to get into our wet weather gear. It was a relatively slow
run from there to Apollo Bay. Thankfully, the weather cleared up for the
GOR leg.
We met this cage-racer somewhere other side of Apollo Bay. He tried to
have a go, but the traffic beat him. Not us, though.
The fact was, we were able to catch him, overtake him, and leave him
for dead. He went past us in Anglesea where we'd stopped for lunch. I
was halfway through my hamburger at the time, if that gives you an idea
of the time we had made up on him.
.. It's OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound.
MJT
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safe...@beer.com
wrote:
>
>Maybe it was all in the takeoff??
>B.Bass
>
Or the wrist perhaps......
SB
Martin Taylor
> GSX1100EFE's (from back in the mid 80's)
> nailing 400m times of 9 seconds flat all day (doing
> break out runs) and we were both on bog standard bikes.
DC> Utter crap.
Does sound a bit far fetched, doesn't it? I used to own a couple of
these models, and they certainly weren't that quick. I don't think that
my ZZR is capable of a 9 sec 1/4 mile, yet it's heaps quicker than
the Suzis were.
.. 5 out of 3 people have problems with fractions