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Sinch

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Jan 29, 2002, 9:20:40 PM1/29/02
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Why is it so dam hard to find any 250cc performace specs. I have
trauled the net and come up with nothing. If anyone can tell me of
the performance specs (0 - 100, 1/4 mile) for any of the follwoing
bikes it would be much appreciated

cbr250
zzr/gpx 250 (same engines but real world specs may differ)
zxr250
aprillia rs125
aprillia rs 250
vtr250
fzr250
nrs150
nsr250
gsx250

Information on max power, torque and weight would be nice as well

Regards Sinch

Chris Waltham

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"Sinch" <din...@deakin.edu.au> wrote in message
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> Why is it so dam hard to find any 250cc performace specs. I have
> trauled the net and come up with nothing. If anyone can tell me of
> the performance specs (0 - 100, 1/4 mile) for any of the follwoing
> bikes it would be much appreciated

> cbr250
> zzr/gpx 250 (same engines but real world specs may differ)
> zxr250
> aprillia rs125

fast :P

> aprillia rs 250
faster :P

> vtr250
> fzr250
> nrs150
> nsr250
> gsx250

I think the RS125 has 32bhp, and about 110kgs. Or is it 104?


Chris

triffid

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:33:24 AM1/30/02
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you left out the X7 !!!!! what not sporty enough for you ? Damn Damn Damn
Any one got some amaco flares to match it ?

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JustinSane

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:45:12 AM1/30/02
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my search engine didn't come up with any web pages with both '250cc' and
'performance' in them! Mustn't be able to have both.......... :-p

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Mouth

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:43:33 AM1/30/02
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In article <c3fa5807.0201...@posting.google.com>,
din...@deakin.edu.au says...

> Why is it so dam hard to find any 250cc performace specs. I have

Maybe because they don't exist? 250cc != Performance :}

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Mick G

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:48:15 AM1/30/02
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if by gsx250 you mean gsx250f, the across...
dry weight 163kg
max power 34kw @ 14500
max torque 25.2nm @ 10500

more details at
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rallycars/bikes/stats_across.htm


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Sinch

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:20:38 AM1/30/02
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Well, i guess i'll start the ball rolling with what i have so far.

Suzuki RGV250
Max power 56.54hp, dry weight =138Kg (1996)

2 stroke, very quick (race replica) 0-100km/h in around 3.5-3.8
seconds depending on model. 400m around mid 13-seconds, topspeed
around 210 km/h.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Suzuki GSX250F &#8220;Across&#8221;
Max power 24hp @ 14500rpm, dry weight =163Kg
Max torque 2.5kg-m @ 10500rpm

Only has a range of 200km due to a very small fuel tank (12 litres).
Supposedly has a bit more grunt than a ZZR.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Suzuki GSX250S &#8220;Katana&#8221;
Max power 43hp @ 18500rpm, dry weight =160Kg
Max torque 2.7kg-m @ 10000rpm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Honda NSR250
Quicker than an RGV250, grey import.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Honda RS250
Max power 92hp @ 12500rpm, dry weight =101Kg
Max torque 5.33kg-m @ 12000rpm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Honda NSR 150
Max power 39.5hp @ 10500rpm, dry weight =122.4Kg
Max torque 2.75kg-m @ 10000rpm

2 stroke, quite quick, would be ok to learn on but size and comfort
may be an issue.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Honda CBR250rr
Max power 45hp @ 15000rpm, dry weight =143Kg
Max torque 2.5kg-m @ 12000rpm

Good learners bike, forgiving and reasonably quick. Suited for smaller
riders (under 5&#8217;10).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HondaVTR250
Max power 32.5hp @ 10500rpm, dry weight =139Kg
Max torque 2.4kg-m @ 10500rpm

Excellent for learning on.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kawasaki ZXR250/ZX2R (grey import) 4 cylinder
Handles better than a CBR250 and a smichen faster, Ok for bigger
riders (6&#8217;2).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kawasaki ZZR250 2 cylinder

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kawasaki GPX250
Max power 27.9hp @ 11000rpm, dry weight = ???
Max torque 2.5kg-m @ 10000rpm

Engines are the same, ZZR tuned for sporty Great learners bike, very
reliable, not as quick as a CBR250.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yamaha FZX250 &#8220;Zeal&#8221;
Small, more of a sporty commuter than a sports bike.
Same engine as an FZR250R except the revs are chopped of at 14000rpm
as apposed to 22000rpm.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yamaha FZR250R (R2 Stickers)
Rumoured to produce 50hp

Quicker than a CBR250rr and ZXR250, some say a good bike to learn on.
Supposedly uncomfortable, picture a cbr with a smaller seat.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

kiwipete

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:44:16 AM1/30/02
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Gee better tell that to the 250 race boys...

A good 250 ridden well will smash a large bike around the twisties
anytime... the larger bike will generally be slower to corner... the 250 gp
bikes have a faster corner speed than the 500's..

But suppose they aren't performance... are they Mr Mouth! ;-)

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kiwipete

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:45:53 AM1/30/02
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Your first port of call should be this site..

http://sepnet.com/cycle/index.htm

In fact it should be the first port of call for anything m/c related..

Just my 5.5c

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Iain Chalmers

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:57:48 AM1/30/02
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In article <c3fa5807.0201...@posting.google.com>,
din...@deakin.edu.au (Sinch) wrote:

> Honda RS250
> Max power 92hp @ 12500rpm, dry weight =101Kg
> Max torque 5.33kg-m @ 12000rpm

Ummmm, you _do_ realise you're _not_ going to be able to put lights and
a numberplate on one of these, don't you? Thats a 250cc GP bike, not a
street bike... And even then, I suspect 92hp is _way_ high - maybe a
full factory spec got that high, but some quick googleage finds a lot of
web pages claiming 60-65 horsepower, not 90...

For what its worth, heres my addition to the collective wisdom :-)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Honda VT250L "Spada" (1991 model, the predecessor to the VTR250)
Max power 34hp (25.5kW) @ 12,000rpm, dry weight 134kg
Max torque 2.5kg-m @ 11500rpm
A very good learner bike, light weight, good handling and brakes,
plus no expensive fairing for those inevitable learning drops...
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmmm, a look at www.250ccbikes.com suggests there _was_ a street
version of the RS250 Honda before about 1991, _no_ chance of _that_
having had 90hp though...

cheers

big

Mouth

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Jan 30, 2002, 2:11:01 AM1/30/02
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In article <OCM58.11310$N31.5...@ozemail.com.au>, kiwi...@gil.com.au
says...

> Gee better tell that to the 250 race boys...
>
> A good 250 ridden well will smash a large bike around the twisties
> anytime... the larger bike will generally be slower to corner... the 250 gp
> bikes have a faster corner speed than the 500's..
>
> But suppose they aren't performance... are they Mr Mouth! ;-)
>
> --
> cheers....
>
> kiwipete

You are, of course, correct but I don't remember him asking for specs on
race bikes, just standard road 250's, thus your point is moot.

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David

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Jan 30, 2002, 2:45:12 AM1/30/02
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Well I ride an RR 250 and no its not my 1st bike by any stretch of the
imagination. I am 6 ft + and about 75kgs , mine is ok for about 4 to 5 hours
hooning around the twisties or Sandown . No probs with comfort at that sort of
riding time. I do find it uncomfy whilst tootling around tho ( no wind blast to
keep my weight off my wrists) .

As for performance unless you can get an NSR 250 Works bike with lights etc (fat
chance of that ) you wont outdrag bigger later sports bikes full stop.
I think someone mentioned 4.5 secs to 100 time for an RR . as for the Fizzer out
running it I would say it depends upon the riders ability and the lack of
mechanical sympathy when launching hard.

I read the CBR250 .com forum and there are a few fizzer owners on there and they
seem to have more probs than all the Honda crew put together with minor probs
rough running not starting stuff, Honda did actually import the RR for some
time officially so parts are no probs .

As most have said 250's are not HIGH performance bikes in this day and age but
the Jap 4's have got it hands down unless you go 2 stroke RGV, Aprillia etc.
ZXR is supposed to feel more planted than an RR but supposedly not as nimble
this may equate to a better learner bike , dunno I have only ridden the RR .
It will come down to personal preference as usual , does it fit you , etc etc .
performance on the jap 4's is all very similar apart from Across which is much
heavier and therefore not as quick.
If I didnt need a bike with a pilllion seat then I would be keeping my RR its
cheap to run and fun to ride full stop.
David

Mr Flibble

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Jan 30, 2002, 3:05:04 AM1/30/02
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On 29 Jan 2002 18:20:40 -0800, din...@deakin.edu.au (Sinch) scribed:

>Why is it so dam hard to find any 250cc performace specs. I have
>trauled the net and come up with nothing. If anyone can tell me of
>the performance specs (0 - 100, 1/4 mile) for any of the follwoing
>bikes it would be much appreciated
>
>cbr250
>zzr/gpx 250 (same engines but real world specs may differ)
>zxr250

I can help with these little fellows ...
http://www.sovnet.com.au/zxr250/

It really isn't that much of and important issue (IMHO) if it is your
first bike. You will be busy enough staying alive and learning to
ride correctly let alone doing al that and trying to ride fast as
well.

I'm starting to sound like my father more and more every day ...

Chris Waltham

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Jan 30, 2002, 3:19:58 AM1/30/02
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"Sinch" <din...@deakin.edu.au> wrote in message
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> Honda RS250
> Max power 92hp @ 12500rpm, dry weight =101Kg
> Max torque 5.33kg-m @ 12000rpm

Jesus, where do I get one of these? Are they a road bike? That's almost 1hp
per 1kg..


Chris


Charlie

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:15:09 AM1/30/02
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the 250 2 strokes aren't so bad...

Charlie

Mr Flibble

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My typing skills stink.


On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:05:04 GMT, Mr Flibble
<evilp...@thereddwarf.co.uk> scribed:

Ross Dawson

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Info here
http://www.hondampe.com.au/MPE/motorc/models/bike_content.asp?BikeID=153

I guess you'd have to talk to HRC nicely and see if you can get one of the
(I assume) alloted few to come to Aus.

They're a race bike (not road registerable in factory form).

Be fun tho

Ross
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Mr Flibble

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:26:06 AM1/30/02
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:15:09 GMT, Charlie <cdr...@bigpond.net.au>
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Correct, 250 strokers are no slouches generally speaking, but hey what
can you do with != sort of stuff really? Leave it work I think... or
in the uni. Cafeteria?

Mr Flibble
(having a bad hair day)

geoff and jodie

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Really? Have you *ever* ridden an Apprillia RS250 or Suzuki RGV250 in the
twisties? These two are legal 250 road bikes They are so much fun... and
they can outcorner almost any larger bike... they make tight corners *FUN*

Geoff and Jodie

Biggus

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:45:25 AM1/30/02
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Gee you dont seen to have many, I see none were found on the net......

is there a reason for needing to know? or your getting your L's soon and
want the fastest but not safest?


Biggus

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:59:43 AM1/30/02
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>>> and they can outcorner almost any larger bike...


Except when you get out of the 11400-13000RPM range and they bog down.......


triffid

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"geoff and jodie" <geof...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Had an RGV L for a few months (still had 3 other bikes in the shed including
2 x 11's) and it was the most fun bike i have had around town...bit heavy on
fuel/tyres but it cud come out of a corner beaut. Shit i had fun on that
bike ,amazing brakes !! But as we all know "Dragons live forever but no so
RGV'S" and i stupidly mixed 2 synth oils & siezed it big time...@ well over
the speed limit...change undies !

>


Julius Marlow

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Jan 30, 2002, 5:09:15 AM1/30/02
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The all go like the bloody clappers. Perhaps you should be more interested
in handling, reliability, brakes etc.

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triffid

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Jan 30, 2002, 5:14:07 AM1/30/02
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thats what i thort till i rode one ...its the speed you can go into it &
open the throttle mid corner as there isnt any huge wheel spinning power
that will hi-side you. I cud ride it much faster than my big bikes. You can
take them right up to a corner as they have low weight & excellent brakes.


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paulh

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:44:16 +1000, "kiwipete" <kiwi...@gil.com.au>
wrote:

>Gee better tell that to the 250 race boys...
>
>A good 250 ridden well will smash a large bike around the twisties
>anytime... the larger bike will generally be slower to corner... the 250 gp
>bikes have a faster corner speed than the 500's..
>
>But suppose they aren't performance... are they Mr Mouth! ;-)

Thats why the 250 GP bikes do faster lap times than the 500s.. oh
wait, they don't.

paulh

Sinch

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:07:15 AM1/30/02
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I am getting my first bike soon and am all but decided on a zzr250.
Im fully aware that would likely kill myself on many of these bikes,
im just interested in the info out of curiousity.

Scott W

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A good rider will beat Mr Numnuts any day, regardless of the bike (HD
excluded).

>Gee better tell that to the 250 race boys

When they grow up to be men, they buy a 500.

:))


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Chris Waltham

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> Info here
> http://www.hondampe.com.au/MPE/motorc/models/bike_content.asp?BikeID=153
>
> I guess you'd have to talk to HRC nicely and see if you can get one of the
> (I assume) alloted few to come to Aus.

So umm, assuming I had the cash (which I don't) and Honda would sell me one,
what would I expect to pay for one? 92bhp and 101kg sounds fab.


Chris


Biggus

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$30k+

Black Maggot

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Have you tried http://www.bikez.com ?


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> Why is it so dam hard to find any 250cc performace specs. I have

B.T. Humble

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They used to have the prices on the website, from memory it was
somewhere about $30k.

The 125 should be pretty brisk too at 44ps/71kg (provided you were the
right size for it of course).

BTH

kiwipete

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They don't Paul... even you should know they are slower in a straight line
;-)

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paulh

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:39:19 +1000, "kiwipete" <kiwi...@gil.com.au>
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>They don't Paul... even you should know they are slower in a straight line
>;-)

ah...so their performance IS lower than bikes biggerer than them....
just had to reality check this thread see.. before I traded the Busa
for a high performace ZZR250 or something..

paulh

kiwipete

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Jan 31, 2002, 10:08:21 AM1/31/02
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LOL now Paulie... read the posy m'boy... I said corner speed was higher...

Trade the Busa for a zzr... hmmm no... but I have a good little scooter I
might be convinced to trade ;-)

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paulh

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:08:21 +1000, "kiwipete" <kiwi...@gil.com.au>
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>LOL now Paulie... read the posy m'boy... I said corner speed was higher...
>
>Trade the Busa for a zzr... hmmm no... but I have a good little scooter I
>might be convinced to trade ;-)

You're not suggesting I would twist words against someone...who, moi?

paulh

(no thanks for the scooter... now if you had a ZZR.....)

kiwipete

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Never suggest that@!

Dam... did I say posy.... yee gawd!

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Leon McIntyre

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I have one of them high performance zzr's that I might consider trading!


leon
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Charlie

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Biggus wrote:
>
> >>> and they can outcorner almost any larger bike...
>
> Except when you get out of the 11400-13000RPM range and they bog down.......

what are you doing out of that range well?

Charlie

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