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ray

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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I guess its mainly americans fault but i am confused as to what is the
difference between a GPX250r, a GPX250, EX250 and a "baby ninja 250" (which
looks just like a GPX)
the ninja 250 (one that i was loking at anywho) is supposedly an EX...right
? and this looks just like a GPX..is it ? and whats the difference with the
GPX250r ?

Thanks
Ray

Dale Porter

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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I believe the EX is the engine model name, with the bike being
designated as the GPX f1/f2/f6 etc. As for the Ninja name, Kawasaki had
a habit of putting Ninja to just about anything. Just a marketing ploy
really.

There are a few grey imports around, and they are a ittle different to
the regular GPX's seen on our roads in regards to having twin front
disks and moulded rear turning lights.

Dale Porter (1992 CBR600 F2)
IRC nick: _Panther_
ICQ #: 3793015

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Donald Halloran

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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ray wrote:
>
> I guess its mainly americans fault but i am confused as to what is the
> difference between a GPX250r, a GPX250, EX250 and a "baby ninja 250" (which
> looks just like a GPX)
> the ninja 250 (one that i was loking at anywho) is supposedly an EX...right
> ? and this looks just like a GPX..is it ? and whats the difference with the
> GPX250r ?
>

My first bike was a GPX250R2. The difference between this and a GPX250
was basically that the R2 has 2 front brake disks instead of one. The
GPX250R2 is also a grey import. There is no Australian model.
Another distinction is that the Australian GPX has "GPX" written on the
side, whereas the R2 has "ninja" written on the side. (At least for
models circa 1990. Im not sure how the newer models are painted). As far
as I know there is no GPX250R. I think the EX designation refers to the
engine (on my registration certificate the engine model was prefixed
with EX, not GPX). That raises the question, are ZZRs and Eliminators,
which are built around the same engine, also designated as EX's ?

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Don Halloran

Hamish

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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Yes, that is a tricky one.

The GPz1100 was ticketed as a ZXR750 range by the RTA. Work that one
out!

Hamish

Chris Martin

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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As far as I can tell, they are all the same bike.

Mark Gardner

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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My missus totally cracks up every time she sees a "ninja",

Especially the green ones, mumbles on about pizza & kids programs,

BTW you'd have thought they'd of updated names by now, wouldn't
you ?

totally meaningless drivel but I'm bored.

Cheers
Mark.


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Marker_Man

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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They are all the same bike.

The model code that Kawasaki and there dealers use is EX250F.
They are sold as GPX250F.

The Ninja stickers are just for looks.
They are all the same bike from the first model until now.
Exept colour or specs for other countries regarding polution etc..

The ZZR250 is different and is called EX250H by the trade.
But the engine is basicly the same thing.

MM


ray wrote:
>
> I guess its mainly americans fault but i am confused as to what is the
> difference between a GPX250r, a GPX250, EX250 and a "baby ninja 250" (which
> looks just like a GPX)
> the ninja 250 (one that i was loking at anywho) is supposedly an EX...right
> ? and this looks just like a GPX..is it ? and whats the difference with the
> GPX250r ?
>

> Thanks
> Ray

Donald Halloran

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Mark Gardner wrote:
>
> My missus totally cracks up every time she sees a "ninja",
>

I think its a pretty cool name.
What about "fireblade", "firestorm", "blackbird", "monster" .....

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Don Halloran

Mark Gardner

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Well it's probably due to her tender young age

The rat and the pizza eaters where always on the telly when she was
a younger slip of a thing.

I personally don't really care what a bike's called as long as it does
what it says on the box that it came in, although there have been a few
dubious names over the years.

I'm sure you could all contribute one or two ?

Cheers
Mark.
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ray

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Marker_Man <marker...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<37442D18...@yahoo.com>...


> They are all the same bike.
>
> The model code that Kawasaki and there dealers use is EX250F.
> They are sold as GPX250F.
>
> The Ninja stickers are just for looks.
> They are all the same bike from the first model until now.
> Exept colour or specs for other countries regarding polution etc..
>
> The ZZR250 is different and is called EX250H by the trade.
> But the engine is basicly the same thing.
>
> MM
>
>

oh i see....I have also heard that the GPZ 250r (grey import?) is a EX
(GPX) 250f..?!?!


Ray

Andrew & Alison McRae

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Marker_Man <marker...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The ZZR250 is different and is called EX250H by the trade.
> But the engine is basicly the same thing.

IIRC my ZZR250 is designated as an EX250H.

Purchased the Kawasaki workshop manuals when I got the bike - you get one
for the engine and its the same for the ZZR and the GPX etc, and then a
supplement for your particular model which covers everything else.

Andy
'98 ZZR250

Clem Doherty

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May 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/24/99
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Mark Gardner wrote
.

>My missus totally cracks up every time she sees a "ninja",
>Especially the green ones, mumbles on about pizza & kids programs,
>BTW you'd have thought they'd of updated names by now, wouldn't you ?
.
I think that you're on to something here Mark.
What's the coolest kids show now? ... southpark!!
Now lets see;
Suzuki Hayabusa is definately the "Suzuki Fat-Ass Cartman" (no; I'm NOT
finished picking on it yet).
Yamaha's TDM850 is "Sparky the gay dog" (it just IS;.... I dunno why!)
CBR1100xx is "Chef" (black; thinks it's funky; impresses kids; ...) [I could
be in trouble here...]
GN250 is that little monkey-boy that hangs around with Mephisto.
Kyle's little brother Ike (with the top of his head flapping around) would
have to be the pre-steering dampered TL1000S. (and Stan's sister is a bit
Valkyrie-ish....)
.
I've kinda petered out, haven't I?
Clem (it seemed real funny in my head)

Hamish

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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ROTFLOL!

Brilliant Doherty!

The kid called, shit whats his name, has ADD, old man owned that coffee
shop, and the underpant gnomes kept stealing his grundies, gets a
Guernsey as a RZ500. You know, peaky, smelly, scares you when it talks,
not the thing you take with you to impress pillions or to gain
confidence in you.

Kyle is the Diversion 900, boring to look at, half fairing, average
The mayor is the Across, the parallel is the stupid fuel tank, and well,
I m not gonna say anymore
Mr Macckie, is a CBR1000, quite, inoffensive, but loosen him up and he
performs well

Yeah, its piss funny in my head too.

Hamish

Scandal

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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well i finally sold my gpx

3000 cash and no complaints. now i just gorra get the bastar# back to the
gong?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Doug Cox

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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Hamish <hb...@uow.edu.au> wrote in message
<snip>

> Kyle is the Diversion 900, boring to look at, half fairing, average
> The mayor is the Across, the parallel is the stupid fuel tank, and
well,
> I m not gonna say anymore
> Mr Macckie, is a CBR1000, quite, inoffensive, but loosen him up and
he
> performs well

The Z1300 must be Mr. Hat 'cause he can't stand up by himself,
either...

Doug Cox
Work to ride, Ride to work...
Doug...@Bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/Doug_Cox/

Clem Doherty

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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Hamish wrote in message <3749676A...@uow.edu.au>...
.

>The kid called, shit whats his name, has ADD, old man owned that coffee
>shop, and the underpant gnomes kept stealing his grundies, gets a
>Guernsey as a RZ500.
.
Tweak (and, now that you mention it; I reckon that cbr250rrs are probably
the underpants gnomes, too)
.

You know, peaky, smelly, scares you when it talks,
>not the thing you take with you to impress pillions or to gain
>confidence in you.
.
and suddenly screeches unexpectedly; scaring the shit outta you!
Thanx for the help
clem


Mark Gardner

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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Doug Cox sed<

> The Z1300 must be Mr. Hat 'cause he can't stand up by himself,
> either...

Shit Doug I nearly choked on my beer, now I gotta mop out the keyboard, that
was damn funny mate !!
ROFL


Cheers
Mark

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(bandit but not that sort !)
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Kathy Vickers

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May 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/26/99
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Doug Cox wrote:

>
> The Z1300 must be Mr. Hat 'cause he can't stand up by himself,
> either...

Touché!!!!!
<giggle>

Ksathy

kot...@my-dejanews.com

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May 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/26/99
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In article <01bea377$4b0e0bc0$b20e64cb@ray>,

"ray" <R.M...@uq.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> Marker_Man <marker...@yahoo.com> wrote in
article
> <37442D18...@yahoo.com>...
> > They are all the same bike.
> >
> > The model code that Kawasaki and there
dealers use is EX250F.
> > They are sold as GPX250F.
> >
> > The Ninja stickers are just for looks.
> > They are all the same bike from the first
model until now.
> > Exept colour or specs for other countries
regarding polution etc..
> >
> > The ZZR250 is different and is called EX250H
by the trade.
> > But the engine is basicly the same thing.
> >
> > MM
> >
> >
> oh i see....I have also heard that the GPZ 250r
(grey import?) is a EX
> (GPX) 250f..?!?!
>
> Ray

Doubt it. The reason the Japanese GPX's with the
Ninja decals slapped on the side are grey imports
is because (mentioned earlier) the rear
indicators are moulded into the fairing and as
such they don't meet the minimum required
distance between indicators by RTA standards.

Also the electrical system doesn't meet
Australian standards (although this was
essentially because of the law requiring a lack
of on/off switch for the headlight - with the
light permanently on).

On that note anyone wanna buy my '95 smashed up
GPX250?? Engine and gear box are great but
you'll hafta rebuild the front end (including
replacing the fairing). Only done 25kkm.

cyaz

John Yasmineh
kot...@hotmail.com

Hamish

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May 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/26/99
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Too funny, gave me a good laugh!

Now, should I draw a parallel between a certain Harley? I think that
might evoke the gods of wrath, so I will leave that to Clem.

See you at the BBQ!

HBAJ

Doug Cox wrote:
>
> Hamish <hb...@uow.edu.au> wrote in message
> <snip>
> > Kyle is the Diversion 900, boring to look at, half fairing, average
> > The mayor is the Across, the parallel is the stupid fuel tank, and
> well,
> > I m not gonna say anymore
> > Mr Macckie, is a CBR1000, quite, inoffensive, but loosen him up and
> he
> > performs well
>

> The Z1300 must be Mr. Hat 'cause he can't stand up by himself,
> either...
>

Shawn Foo

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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Doug Cox wrote in message ...

>Hamish <hb...@uow.edu.au> wrote in message
><snip>
>> Kyle is the Diversion 900, boring to look at, half fairing, average
>> The mayor is the Across, the parallel is the stupid fuel tank, and
>well,
>> I m not gonna say anymore
>> Mr Macckie, is a CBR1000, quite, inoffensive, but loosen him up and
>he
>> performs well
>
>The Z1300 must be Mr. Hat 'cause he can't stand up by himself,
>either...


That would make Hamish Mr Twig because Mr Hat keeps trying
to kill him?


One of Zebees old rattly bikes would have to be Mr Hanky
because it leaves bits of itself wherever it goes and while
it's a good friend to Zebee it looks like a piece of
shit to everyone else...
:)

Shawn Foo
GPX-250 (Anon) -> Suzuki Bandit 600 (Foolan)


Zebee Johnstone

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 27 May 1999 17:21:51 +1000

Shawn Foo <sf...@mits.com.au> wrote:
>
>One of Zebees old rattly bikes would have to be Mr Hanky
>because it leaves bits of itself wherever it goes and while
>it's a good friend to Zebee it looks like a piece of
>shit to everyone else...
>:)
>

Damn right!

Mind you, the T hasnt shed anything for age, (that's the Duke's job)
but last night it jettisoned of all things the headlight
switch!

Zebee

Cam Botherway

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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kot...@my-dejanews.com was heard to mutter:

>Doubt it. The reason the Japanese GPX's with the
>Ninja decals slapped on the side are grey imports
>is because (mentioned earlier) the rear
>indicators are moulded into the fairing and as
>such they don't meet the minimum required
>distance between indicators by RTA standards.
>
>Also the electrical system doesn't meet
>Australian standards (although this was
>essentially because of the law requiring a lack
>of on/off switch for the headlight - with the
>light permanently on).
>
>On that note anyone wanna buy my '95 smashed up
>GPX250?? Engine and gear box are great but
>you'll hafta rebuild the front end (including
>replacing the fairing). Only done 25kkm.

How much do you want for the engine & carburetors alone? I've got an EL that's seen a surprising
amount of action compared with their kin, and a new engine would be more than welcome. Of course, if
I had my way I'd be shoe-horning a GS500 engine into the bay - Should work in theory - the size is
fine, it's a twin so the geometry isn't a problem, and I'm sure the manifolds to the airbox can be
adjusted accordingly. It'd mean a new exhaust system though - Gee Damn, NOT!! B-)


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