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Chris Eastwood

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Oct 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/11/99
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HiYa

I'm thinking of getting one of these bikes, I have owned the K100 before and
know what it's like, however the R80 is something that I don't have any
experience with.

I like the twin sound/feel but I have heard that the R's have some problems
with the Bing's needing frequent rebuilds, and generally having higher
maintainence.

I'd like to get something that has tubeless tyres as I think that these are
safer than tubes, however I'm open to hearing the pros and cons on this
subject

anyway thanks (in advance) for the thoughts

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Chris Eastwood
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Max Levett

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Oct 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/12/99
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R80 much lighter than K100
As for the carbs, Ive done 160,000 km on my R80RT and haven't touched the
carbs apart from balancing the throttle cables occasionally.


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Chris Eastwood

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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Max

thanks for the info ... I'm curious though the K100 is about 215Kg, so how
light is the R80?


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Max Levett

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Oct 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/14/99
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R80 is have is RT and weighs about 210kg. Fairing acounts for 17kg of
that.Think K100 weighs bit more.
Rode K1100RS recently and it weighs heaps more, 268kg wet.
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~maxlev/bmw.htm
If you buy one, the tyres to use are
Metzeler ME 33 Laser on front.
Michelin Macadam 50 on rear.(don't use Metzeler ME55 Metronic on back,
minimal straight line stability)

Max
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Bruce Campbell

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Oct 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/14/99
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Chris Eastwood wrote:
>
> Max
>
> thanks for the info ... I'm curious though the K100 is about 215Kg, so how
> light is the R80?
>

The R80 is about 200kg. The RT version is a bit more due to the fairing.
The advantage with the R80 is that all the weight is down low so you
don't feel it. Another advantage is that, if it falls over, it doesn't
go right over because of the cylinders/crash bars. Getting it back on
its feet is a snack.

> In article <7ttgnc$a97$1...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, "Max Levett"
> <max...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> >R80 much lighter than K100
> >As for the carbs, Ive done 160,000 km on my R80RT and haven't touched the
> >carbs apart from balancing the throttle cables occasionally.

I can back this up. In 165,000k's on an R80 I didn't touch the carbs
except for balancing, and one other unfortunate experience. I got a
batch or two of REAL dirty petrol and had to have the carbs, tank,
petrol lines, petrol taps etc all cleaned out. What a shit! Never went
back to that service station again. I heard that other people (cars) who
used that servo got caught the same way.

If you do a lot of riding in the rain or on dirt you may need to replace
the carb cables abt every 100,000k's. They don't break but just get hard
to use. You'll know when its time to replace - you end up with a real
limp, and sore, wrist after a long ride!


> >> I like the twin sound/feel but I have heard that the R's have some
> >problems
> >> with the Bing's needing frequent rebuilds, and generally having higher
> >> maintainence.

But the maintenance, what there is of it, is easy. You can do it
yourself. The hardest part is replacing the oil in the gearbox and final
drive. Shit of a design!


> >>
> >> I'd like to get something that has tubeless tyres as I think that these
> >are
> >> safer than tubes, however I'm open to hearing the pros and cons on this
> >> subject

The only times I've had punctures in the last 10-15 yrs (2) with
tubeless tyres have been when I've been trying to sneak in a few extra
k's on a tyre before replacing it. The last time was this Tuesday. Twas
gonna replace the tyre this weekend anyway. Bummer! I was able to ride
slowly abt 1km to the nearest servo to get it repaired. Probably
couldn't do this on tubed tyres. I was on my way again within 3 minutes
- they're that easy to repair.

If you've got a tubeless repair kit (including gas bottles) and a pump,
this is probably the way to go. Don't have to remove the wheel to do the
repair. Personally, I don't bother any more. Just replace the tyre when
it needs it.

Bruce Campbell

MuZ (with shiny new tyre) 450 Desmo

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Oct 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/14/99
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Bruce Campbell <Bruce.C...@mq.edu.au> wrote in message
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> Chris Eastwood wrote:
> >
> > Max
> >
> > thanks for the info ... I'm curious though the K100 is about 215Kg, so
how
> > light is the R80?
> >
>
> The R80 is about 200kg. The RT version is a bit more due to the fairing.
> The advantage with the R80 is that all the weight is down low so you
> don't feel it.

Ks have lower centres of gravity than Rs, according to BMW

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