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Peter Jason
Nov 3, 2023, 6:18:03 PM11/3/23
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Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health? So far I have seen
only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
data, though I had to request it.
These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
"busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
leave"!
Do doctors fear competition given the My Health data can be accessed
by any other doctor? Unlikely, because patient data is shared within
a clinic.
Maybe they don't want other doctors at other clinics pinching their
patients.
Same for hospitals and outpatients?
I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health, so one has to
specifically request no upload.
Can I go back and request past info be uploaded? A visit to a
hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
like on MyHealth.
only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
data, though I had to request it.
These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
"busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
leave"!
Do doctors fear competition given the My Health data can be accessed
by any other doctor? Unlikely, because patient data is shared within
a clinic.
Maybe they don't want other doctors at other clinics pinching their
patients.
Same for hospitals and outpatients?
I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health, so one has to
specifically request no upload.
Can I go back and request past info be uploaded? A visit to a
hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
like on MyHealth.
Rod Speed
Nov 3, 2023, 7:31:11 PM11/3/23
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Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote
> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
Nope.
> So far I have seen
> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
> data, though I had to request it.
> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
> leave"!
Dont get that with mine.
> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed by
> any other doctor?
Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap to
implement.
> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
But there is no competition within it.
> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
> patients.
Not possible.
> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
Yes.
> so one has to specifically request no upload.
Yes.
> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
> A visit to a
> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
> like on MyHealth.
It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
> So far I have seen
> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
> data, though I had to request it.
> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
> leave"!
> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed by
> any other doctor?
Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap to
implement.
> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
> patients.
> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
> so one has to specifically request no upload.
> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
> A visit to a
> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
> like on MyHealth.
Peter Jason
Nov 4, 2023, 7:27:07 PM11/4/23
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My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
was meant to prevent this.
The hospitals have their own databases, each with a different one it
seems. Wadda load of crap.
Rod Speed
Nov 5, 2023, 2:21:40 PM11/5/23
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Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote
That's inevitable with any system like that.
> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
> was meant to prevent this.
Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
> The hospitals have their own databases,
Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.
> each with a different one it seems.
That is complete bullshit.
> Wadda load of crap.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
hospital.
That will see them get their act into gear for sure.
> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
> was meant to prevent this.
you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
> The hospitals have their own databases,
> each with a different one it seems.
> Wadda load of crap.
Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
hospital.
That will see them get their act into gear for sure.
Peter Jason
Nov 5, 2023, 5:05:10 PM11/5/23
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 06:21:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
scintilla of bullshit in it.
Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular, grouped,
home Care/Nursing homes affiliations, and they have there own computer
systems, designed and installed by this/that IT firm. No hospital
wants to trash their system & join another because of the cost
involved.
Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems were hacked
because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
I rest my case, and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit
epithet.
scintilla of bullshit in it.
Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular, grouped,
home Care/Nursing homes affiliations, and they have there own computer
systems, designed and installed by this/that IT firm. No hospital
wants to trash their system & join another because of the cost
involved.
Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems were hacked
because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
I rest my case, and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit
epithet.
Rod Speed
Nov 5, 2023, 7:14:50 PM11/5/23
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> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
has had its own personal database designed from
the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there own
> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
You are just plain wrong on the designed.
> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
> cost involved.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
you have never ever had a fucking clue about
anything at all, ever, let along database design.
It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
their own personal despoke database designed for them.
> I rest my case,
You never had one.
> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
Peter Jason
Nov 5, 2023, 8:36:56 PM11/5/23
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 11:14:43 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
So I DO know something of them!
>
>It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
Yet they DO. At least in a particular group. I happen to know a firm
of IT database designers, and this is their game.
So I DO know something of them!
>
>It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
of IT database designers, and this is their game.
>
>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>
>Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>their own personal despoke database designed for them.
Vide Supra; and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>
>Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>
>> I rest my case,
>
>You never had one.
I did & do.
>> I rest my case,
>
>You never had one.
>
>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>
>I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
OK, done that....now what!
>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>
>I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
Rod Speed
Nov 6, 2023, 12:15:28 AM11/6/23
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>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
> Yet they DO.
> At least in a particular group.
> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
> and this is their game.
>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
> Vide Supra;
> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>>> I rest my case,
>> You never had one.
> I did & do.
>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
> OK, done that....now what!
Peter Jason
Nov 7, 2023, 3:08:11 PM11/7/23
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:15:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
And MyHealth was supposed to help here.
Dinosaur! Austropithicine!
>
>> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
>
>But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.
>
>> and this is their game.
>
>Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.
>
>>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>>
>>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>
>> Vide Supra;
>
>Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.
>
>> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>
>You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
>was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>
>>>> I rest my case,
>
>>> You never had one.
>
>> I did & do.
>
>Only your own personal nut case.
>
>>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>
>>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
>
>> OK, done that....now what!
>
>Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.
>
>>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>>>>> hospital.
How rude! Why not give us a demo as a test?
>>>
>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>
>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>> So I DO know something of them!
>
>But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
You are appallingly negative.
>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>
>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>> So I DO know something of them!
>
>But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
Dinosaur! Austropithicine!
>
>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>
>> Yet they DO.
>
>Bullshit they do.
>
>> At least in a particular group.
>
>Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
It's an individual GROUP!
>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>
>> Yet they DO.
>
>Bullshit they do.
>
>> At least in a particular group.
>
>Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>
>> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
>
>But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.
>
>> and this is their game.
>
>Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.
>
>>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>>
>>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>
>> Vide Supra;
>
>Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.
>
>> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>
>You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
>was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>
>>>> I rest my case,
>
>>> You never had one.
>
>> I did & do.
>
>Only your own personal nut case.
>
>>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>
>>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
>
>> OK, done that....now what!
>
>Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.
>
>>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>>>>> hospital.
Rod Speed
Nov 7, 2023, 11:54:52 PM11/7/23
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for MEDICAL RECORDS which everyone involved in the
medical industry and those who have used the medical
industry at any time have access to if they want to do that.
Nothing whatever to do with the vast amounts of other
data that any hospital needs to have, most obviously
with appointments, employment records, medical supplys,
general hospital maintenance and construction etc.
>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>
>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>
>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>
>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Yet they DO.
>>
>> Bullshit they do.
>>
>>> At least in a particular group.
>>
>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>
> It's an individual GROUP!
Which just happens to include the entire collection
>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Yet they DO.
>>
>> Bullshit they do.
>>
>>> At least in a particular group.
>>
>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>
> It's an individual GROUP!
of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.
for yourself, if anyone is actually stupid enough to
lend you a seeing eye dog, given that you have
obviously wanked yourself completely blind.
Peter Jason
Nov 10, 2023, 5:15:15 PM11/10/23
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 15:54:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Who gives a rat's bum about appointments? I'm talking about static
data on history, Neanderthal. For example (since ewe need one), if
you're discovered one early morning face down in a Red-light district
gutter, then a short application to a central database would reveal
your whole sordid medical history resulting in a life-saving injection
of the latest penicillins. No appointment necessary.
though the admitting nurse didn't know how to access it.
Phooey. They'll just upgrade the fire system. I'd hoped to resolve
your plain-as-day ignorance on this subject, but it appears, for some,
evolution works backwards!
data on history, Neanderthal. For example (since ewe need one), if
you're discovered one early morning face down in a Red-light district
gutter, then a short application to a central database would reveal
your whole sordid medical history resulting in a life-saving injection
of the latest penicillins. No appointment necessary.
>
>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>>
>>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>>
>>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>>
>>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Yet they DO.
>>>
>>> Bullshit they do.
>>>
>>>> At least in a particular group.
>>>
>>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>>
>> It's an individual GROUP!
>
>Which just happens to include the entire collection
>of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.
I have actually BEEN in a hospital and it had its own system. Even
>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>>
>>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>>
>>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>>
>>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Yet they DO.
>>>
>>> Bullshit they do.
>>>
>>>> At least in a particular group.
>>>
>>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>>
>> It's an individual GROUP!
>
>Which just happens to include the entire collection
>of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.
though the admitting nurse didn't know how to access it.
your plain-as-day ignorance on this subject, but it appears, for some,
evolution works backwards!
Rod Speed
Nov 11, 2023, 3:35:35 PM11/11/23
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> I'm talking about static data on history,
that hospital database systems have to handle a hell
of a lot more than just static data on history, fuckwit.
>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>>>
>>>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>>>
>>>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>>>
>>>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> Yet they DO.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit they do.
>>>>
>>>>> At least in a particular group.
>>>>
>>>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> It's an individual GROUP!
>>
>> Which just happens to include the entire collection
>> of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.
>
> I have actually BEEN in a hospital and it had its own system.
Ozix
Nov 12, 2023, 12:48:04 AM11/12/23
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Peter Jason wrote:
> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health? So far I have seen
> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
> data, though I had to request it.
>
Mine has blood tests, which were ordered by both public hospital and
> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health? So far I have seen
> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
> data, though I had to request it.
>
local GP. But only seems to go back to 2020, although the system began
in 2016 as far as I know.
Peter Jason
Nov 12, 2023, 5:25:21 PM11/12/23
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:35:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
I've never known such rudeness, obduracy, backbiting, pole-shifting,
negativity etc from anyone before, not even from trolls! Better stay
up your tree./
negativity etc from anyone before, not even from trolls! Better stay
up your tree./
Rod Speed
Nov 12, 2023, 5:59:07 PM11/12/23
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MyHealth system, but there is no real information uploaded, just
the name of the doctor involved and the date with one of mine.
And nothing at all with the latest, minor surgery/skin cancer.
The GP has uploaded all the scripts and just stated the
date and doctor's name for the consult that produced
the referral for the minor op in the hospital.
I didnt have to explicitly request any of that be uploaded.
No test results have been uploaded. The recent tests have
been done by a woman who shows up in the GP clinic for
the morning. Not clear who pays her.
Rod Speed
Nov 12, 2023, 6:40:56 PM11/12/23
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is a real technohater. A couple of the other GPs in that
surgery do upload them to myhealth but he doesnt yet.
He is all setup to do it but just doesnt. He has started
to do escripts now, so likely it will happen sometime.
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