turning back a DIGITAL ODOMETER.... can it be done?
k
My friend wants to turn back the reading on a digital odometer in his VS
Commodore - I'm not asking why, because I know its not really legal in
Australia to sell a car with a false reading .. but I said I'd try find out
some details for him anyway.
If anyone can offer some advice or let me know how it can be done, please
email me at:
Thanx
~John
Jim (from Oz)
>Can anyone tell me how this can be done? I've been told its possible ...
>
>My friend wants to turn back the reading on a digital odometer in his VS
>Commodore - I'm not asking why, because I know its not really legal in
>Australia to sell a car with a false reading .. but I said I'd try find out
>some details for him anyway.
Oh goodie :) Sounds like fun....
How about hitting it with a pulse train equal to 300kph untill it
overflows and wraps around? Almost worth buying a car
with a digital odometer just to see if I can defeat it :)
I 'spose you could just find the EEPROM and replace it,
but it might be inside a micro?
Jim (from Oz)
Jeff Sharpe
always buy the odometer reset kit from
http://lightning.prohosting.com/~i8000/index.html
for a mere US$995 and hope that it works.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:44:22 +1000, "k" <v...@mail.frog.net.au> wrote:
Giles'y
the Ford Falcon...seem to remmeber about $120.00 for doing one speedo
reading.
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Andrew
your problem. Probably find that its hooked into the engine management
computer or body control module these days.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:44:22 +1000, "k" <v...@mail.frog.net.au> wrote:
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David Emrich
>
> My friend wants to turn back the reading on a digital odometer in his VS
> Commodore - I'm not asking why, because I know its not really legal in
Not really legal. It's NOT legal at all.
Your "friend" is a right bastard if he's trying to do something like that.
If that's his mentality to shaft the purchaser, I hope he gets what he
deserves.
Regardless of whether it's legal or not, you have to ask yourself is it
RIGHT!
Come on guys, the world's a bad enough place with our politicians screwing
us, we don't need to be doing it to each other.
David.
Trevor Wilson
"David Emrich" <dem...@ihgtech.com.au> wrote in message
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**What if the guy is selling it to a politician?
--
Trevor Wilson
http://www.rageaudio.com.au
lefty2446
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Then its all ok and above board... :-)
Adrian
D.Castles
David L. Jones
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> drive the car in reverse for a couple of months
Ferris Bueller already proved that doesn't work :->
Dave :)
David Sauer
<tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>> Come on guys, the world's a bad enough place with our politicians screwing
>> us, we don't need to be doing it to each other.
>**What if the guy is selling it to a politician?
What if the guy is selling to a member of some outlaw motorcycle gang.
A guy I knew opened up his odometer to turn it back a few thousand
K's. Inside was a scrap of paper with 'oh no, not again'.
Franc Zabkar
<dlj...@ozemail.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:
The army used to drive some of their armoured personnell carriers in
reverse to stay within budgetary constraints. They didn't want to
waste their annual kilometre allotment on non-military activity, such
as delivering the morning tea. I don't know whether this causes the
odometer to wind backwards, or just stop counting.
-- Franc Zabkar
Please remove one 'g' from my address when replying by email.
CAROLINE TREZISE
"Trevor Wilson" <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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>
A politician would buy a new car at our expense !
ś8-)
AJ
budgie
Zabkar) wrote:
>The army used to drive some of their armoured personnell carriers in
>reverse to stay within budgetary constraints. They didn't want to
>waste their annual kilometre allotment on non-military activity, such
>as delivering the morning tea. I don't know whether this causes the
>odometer to wind backwards, or just stop counting.
In 50's and 60's odos, a lot of cars used a ratchet/pawl arrangement
for incrementing, and reverse did nothing. Some just used a ratchet
and a friction drive on the main shaft to prevent reverse decrement.
And some didn't bother getting fancy, they just went whichever way you
went. Nissan had a series which did that, apprentices used to flog
the electric drill to death to take off a few thou ....
Guy
alternatively reprogam it and sell it to a dealer.
Giles'y
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John Harvey
>Odometers dont add or subtract distance when vehicle in reverse.
Modern ones do, including the Commodore in question.
The speed sensor is a simple interupter that generates a square wave,
the speedo has no way of knowing the rotational direction of the
sensor. A VS Commodore will accumulate km's when reversing.
--
John H
Stan Blazejewski
like wear on door handles, steering wheel, pedal rubbers, floor mat
etc to see if matches visible wear & tear. If not, walk away!
--
Australia isn't "down under", it's "off to one side"!
stan...@netspace.net.au
www.netspace.net.au/~stanblaz/
www.cobracat.com (home of the Australian Cobra Catamaran)
Trevor Wilson
"Stan Blazejewski" <stan...@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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> A smart car buyer will only look at the oddo after looking at things
> like wear on door handles, steering wheel, pedal rubbers, floor mat
> etc to see if matches visible wear & tear. If not, walk away!
>
**The only difficulty, there, is that a smart seller will pay the (say)
$50.00 and swap those components, for ones with much less wear and tear.
Since I purchased my new (1986) Commodore, last year, I've been doing the
rounds of wreckers for various bits and pieces (BTW: Seat springs are a
possibly better way to assess the age of a vehicle). The range of stuff
available is amazing. Even more so, for newer models. Personally, I would be
wary about any vehicle, which doesn't have a comprehensive set of log books
and receipts to accompany it. Stuff like rego pink slips (which always have
the odometer reading included) are very, very difficult to forge. I dunno
about other mechanics, but mine always records the odometer reading,
whenever a service is performed. Without adequate paperwork, I walk.
k
what about if you are replacing the engine ... say, putting in a brand new
reco ... how ya gonna convince someone that u put a reco engine in, if the
odometer has 350,000km's clocked up on it ... wouldn't it be allowed to
reset the odometer in that instance?
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>
David Emrich
> Hey Dave,
>
> what about if you are replacing the engine ... say, putting in a brand new
> reco ... how ya gonna convince someone that u put a reco engine in,
It's called a receipt dude. And evidence that you've changed the engine
number on the registration.
> odometer has 350,000km's clocked up on it ... wouldn't it be allowed to
> reset the odometer in that instance?
It's NEVER allowed to reset the odometer. It's against the law, and quite
serious penalties can and have been levied against people caught doing it.
The engine isn't the only thing that wears out in a car you know.
David.
Rod Speed
> what about if you are replacing the engine ...
> say, putting in a brand new reco ...
You still aint allowed to wind it back.
You're welcome to prove that thats been done engine wise.
> how ya gonna convince someone that u put a reco engine
> in, if the odometer has 350,000km's clocked up on it ...
The receipt would be handy.
> wouldn't it be allowed to reset the odometer in that instance?
Nope. Because there is more involved than just the engine.
> David Emrich <dem...@ihgtech.com.au> wrote
>> k <v...@mail.frog.net.au> wrote
>>> Can anyone tell me how this can be done? I've been told its possible
>>> My friend wants to turn back the reading on a digital odometer in his VS
>>> Commodore - I'm not asking why, because I know its not really legal
>> Not really legal. It's NOT legal at all.
>> Your "friend" is a right bastard if he's trying to do
>> something like that. If that's his mentality to shaft
>> the purchaser, I hope he gets what he deserves.
>> Regardless of whether it's legal or not,
>> you have to ask yourself is it RIGHT!
>> Come on guys, the world's a bad enough place with our politicians
>> screwing us, we don't need to be doing it to each other.
Just proclaiming like that aint gunna stop it any time soon.
budgie
<dem...@ihgtech.com.au> wrote:
>
>"k" <v...@mail.frog.net.au> wrote in message
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>> Hey Dave,
>>
>> what about if you are replacing the engine ... say, putting in a brand new
>> reco ... how ya gonna convince someone that u put a reco engine in,
>
>It's called a receipt dude. And evidence that you've changed the engine
>number on the registration.
>
>> odometer has 350,000km's clocked up on it ... wouldn't it be allowed to
>> reset the odometer in that instance?
>
>It's NEVER allowed to reset the odometer. It's against the law, and quite
>serious penalties can and have been levied against people caught doing it.
>
(snip)
The husband of a friend of my wife got 12 months for this in Perth a
coupla years back on selling off some of his rental fleet - yer can
look him up in the court pages if you like (Peter Guilbert). Sorry,
Jacqui ...
Dave Emrich
"Rod Speed" <rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
(snip)
> >> Regardless of whether it's legal or not,
> >> you have to ask yourself is it RIGHT!
>
> >> Come on guys, the world's a bad enough place with our politicians
> >> screwing us, we don't need to be doing it to each other.
>
> Just proclaiming like that aint gunna stop it any time soon.
Oh really. And what would you suggest WILL stop it then?
David.
Rod Speed
Dave Emrich <d...@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote in
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> Rod Speed <rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Dave Emrich <d...@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote
>>> Regardless of whether it's legal or not,
>>> you have to ask yourself is it RIGHT!
>>> Come on guys, the world's a bad enough place with our politicians
>>> screwing us, we don't need to be doing it to each other.
>> Just proclaiming like that aint gunna stop it any time soon.
> Oh really.
Yes, really.
> And what would you suggest WILL stop it then?
Nothing will. There will always be some who choose to flout the law like that.
What might minimise it is the rego authoritys recording the odo
meter reading at rego time, as part of the rego testing proceedure,
and shafting those whose odos jump back between regos.
But some states dont require full inspections for rego, so there
is no access to the odo reading, and some dont require full
inspections for cars below a specified age, and its often those that
there is the most temptation to wind back, particularly with cars that
have done significantly more than the average distance for their age.
And the odo jumping back between regos doesnt prove who
wound it back, so even when the annual reading is available,
doesnt mean its gunna be feasible to shaft anyone, even if
the odo reading is tied to the engine or chassis number so
fresh regos arent the easy way to circumvent the check.
Bushy
ROTFL!
Sort of reminds me of a bowl of petunias!
Peter
p.s. I wonder if it'll be my friend?
Ken Taylor
Ken
Alice
Bushy wrote:
> >'oh no, not again'.
>
> ROTFL!
>
> Sort of reminds me of a bowl of petunias!
>
> Peter
>
Hmmm, the only way you could possibly know that is if you have a PCA :-)