Throw out your KitKats
Samantha
go to bed at night:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,12128,862655,00.html
Sam.
Mother Superior
"Samantha" <s...@shadowsphere.com.au> wrote
Nestle also gave Ethiopia heaps of baby feeding formula for free, and told
all the mothers that it was best to give the babies formula, so they fed
them bottles and their milk dried up, then Nestle didn't give out any more
formula and the people couldn't afford to buy it, so all the babies starved.
Antti
wrote:
And this shows up on b3ta this morning...
http://biggerbob.freeservers.com/nestle.gif
Antti
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redcountess
> On 9 Jan 2003 20:41:11 -0800, s...@shadowsphere.com.au (Samantha)
> wrote:
>
>
>>I wonder how the powers-that-be at Nestle rationalise this before they
>>go to bed at night:
>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,12128,862655,00.html
>>
>>Sam.
>
>
> And this shows up on b3ta this morning...
> http://biggerbob.freeservers.com/nestle.gif
Yeah, that's what I found in the early 90s the first time I tried to
boycott their products, after I found out about their exploitation of
African mothers. They own Maggi, and several other brands that escape my
memory, but I'm determined not to give those fuckers one more cent!
Cool .gif though!
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Brock
> Yeah, that's what I found in the early 90s the first time I tried to
> boycott their products, after I found out about their exploitation of
> African mothers. They own Maggi, and several other brands that escape my
> memory, but I'm determined not to give those fuckers one more cent!
Back in the good old days, when the world had not yet lost
all small local/state/national food companies to corporate
takeovers, such boycotts were both practical and useful.
Unfortunately today they are much less so. Replacing Evil
Multinational's product with a competetors is now almost
impossible.
Or risky. I buy Maggi noodles because I do *NOT* trust food
hygeine standards on noodles imported from Indonesia or
Thailand.
...Brock.
stranger..
"Samantha" <s...@shadowsphere.com.au> wrote
: I wonder how the powers-that-be at Nestle rationalise this before
: they go to bed at night:
: http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,12128,862655,00.html
i imagine rationalisations of that sort involve a firm belief in ideas like
'survival of the fittest', 'this is business, not charity' and 'nice guys
finish last'. The sort of mindset that sees the world in terms of winners
and losers, where the losers have only themselves to blame and deserve no
sympathy.
That, and a healthy dose of 'fuck you, jack, i'm alright'.
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(it's a competitive world)
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ralph
> Or risky. I buy Maggi noodles because I do *NOT* trust food
> hygeine standards on noodles imported from Indonesia or
> Thailand.
>
> ...Brock.
perhaps you should try boiling them for two minutes first ;)
Thorfinn
stranger.. <stra...@goth.net.spicedham> wrote:
> "Samantha" <s...@shadowsphere.com.au> wrote
> : I wonder how the powers-that-be at Nestle rationalise this before
> : they go to bed at night:
> : http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,12128,862655,00.html
> i imagine rationalisations of that sort involve a firm belief in ideas like
> 'survival of the fittest', 'this is business, not charity' and 'nice guys
> finish last'. The sort of mindset that sees the world in terms of winners
> and losers, where the losers have only themselves to blame and deserve no
> sympathy.
> That, and a healthy dose of 'fuck you, jack, i'm alright'.
Actually, it's more basic than that. This sort of activity is *required
by the Corporations Law*.
Directors of corporations are required to act in the corporation's
financial interest, and to do otherwise is to go against the
Corporations Law, leading to *very* severe penalties.
Corporations are *not* required to have morals or ethics, and quite the
opposite. They are required *not* to do so. This is the root problem.
Ook,
Thorf
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stranger..
"Thorfinn" <thor...@tertius.net.au> wrote
: Corporations are *not* required to have morals or ethics, and quite the
: opposite. They are required *not* to do so. This is the root problem.
It has to be said: "That's pretty fucked up right there".
--
stranger..
(that's pretty fucked up right there mode)
Thorfinn
stranger.. <stra...@goth.net.spicedham> wrote:
> "Thorfinn" <thor...@tertius.net.au> wrote
> : Corporations are *not* required to have morals or ethics, and quite the
> : opposite. They are required *not* to do so. This is the root problem.
> It has to be said: "That's pretty fucked up right there".
Uhhh, yes. :) That's the Problem Of Capitalism, pretty much.
It's not so bad if they are limited in their unethical behaviour by
*other* government regulations... but when they're not (as is often the
case in multinational situations, due to the thoroughly grey mess that
is international relations and international law)... urk.
It's *especially* bad when corporations can effectively buy political
power, as is the situation in .us.
The problem is, too, corporations are potentially immortal... but they
*don't* have a sense of long term self-preservation to go along with
that immortality.
It's fairly established in caselaw that company directors, *especially*
public company directors, are required to act in the short-ish-term
financial interest of the shareholders, and that projecting forward to,
say, one or two centuries from the present day, is not acceptable.
Ook,
Thorf
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jay
>It's fairly established in caselaw that company directors, *especially*
>public company directors, are required to act in the short-ish-term
>financial interest of the shareholders, and that projecting forward to,
>say, one or two centuries from the present day, is not acceptable.
Yep. First obligation is always to the shareholder, and everyone else can go
and get fucked.
Funny how mass sackings can temporarily increase the share price of a company
[less expenses with a given level of revenue, all otherr things being equal,
means greater profit] in a way that is completely unsustainable in the longer
term, but nobody seems to learn or care. Probably because everyone's playing
the same game.
I want the finest revolution available to humanity. I want it here, and I want
it now.
jay
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crustofcrust
"Brock" <br...@twmba.net> wrote in message
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>
> Or risky. I buy Maggi noodles because I do *NOT* trust food
> hygeine standards on noodles imported from Indonesia or
> Thailand.
>
> ...Brock.
>
>
probably get the wheat with a Government subsidy from Australia, those crazy
multi-nationals
Seedy
Thorfinn <thor...@tertius.net.au> wrote:
<snip effective summary of company law and directors' obligations>
Uh, hon? I'm meant to the be the lawyer out of the two of us. You're showing me up. :)
*crawls back into her hole*
CD (sniff)
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- The Tea Party, 'Cathartik'
Brock
> Reading the labels in my supermarket, Maggi noodles are from Fiji, they
> probably get the wheat with a Government subsidy from Australia, those crazy
> multi-nationals
Ignoring racist madmen, Fiji is pretty good, most
manufacturing being in the hands of stable sober Indian
Fijians...
...Brock.