face plant
jay
road). As I was looking back at it, wondering if I should get back in and
re-park it, I tripped up the front step. As I nimbly recovered, I tripped up
the third step (or was it the fourth?), bypassing the second step completely.
Thinking I had it under control, I didn't; gracelessly falling toward the door,
face planting into it. Thankfully I didn't crush my glasses; merely my face and
hands.
Needless to say, the car remained unmoved. Fuck it.
On a lighter note, the six pack of beer I was carrying under my arm emerged
unscathed.
jay
n4cat
> (jay) wrote:
>
> [snip story of unfortunate accident]
>
> > On a lighter note, the six pack of beer I was carrying under my arm
> > emerged
> > unscathed.
>
> but you have a _moral_obligation_ to ensure that the beer is intact.
>
> :)
>
> Mr Q. Z. D.
Ah! Now I'll have to disagree with this statement.
It depends on what TYPE of beer.
Heaven forbid that I would even think of possibly cogitating that Jay would
drink the 'wrong' sort of beer, but the world could do with less fosters
IMNSHO.
--
n4cat
"in vino veritas" Doc Holliday, Tombstone
jay
>> [snip story of unfortunate accident]
>>
>> > On a lighter note, the six pack of beer I was carrying under my arm
>> > emerged
>> > unscathed.
>>
>> The most important thing. You could have fractured your freakin' skull
>> but you have a _moral_obligation_ to ensure that the beer is intact.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Mr Q. Z. D.
>
>Ah! Now I'll have to disagree with this statement.
>It depends on what TYPE of beer.
>
>Heaven forbid that I would even think of possibly cogitating that Jay would
>drink the 'wrong' sort of beer, but the world could do with less fosters
>IMNSHO.
>
Toohey's Old, actually. Really nice in winter. I had a bit of a half-arsed look
for Coopers Dark Ale first but couldn't find it.
jay
Sandro
slowli...@aol.communism (jay) wrote:
Phew!! I was worried that some serious damage had occurred, but
you said the beer was okay, which is a relief. I hope it wasn't
shaken up too much? You've got to hate those drops that spill out
that you can never get to drink, the feeling of loss can often
be unendurable.
Sandro - an unbelievably uncoordinated and clumsy person
--
Carthage Must Be Destroyed - Cato the Elder
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
slowli...@aol.communism (jay) wrote:
[snip story of unfortunate accident]
> On a lighter note, the six pack of beer I was carrying under my arm
> emerged
> unscathed.
The most important thing. You could have fractured your freakin' skull
but you have a _moral_obligation_ to ensure that the beer is intact.
:)
Mr Q. Z. D.
----
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
"If chance supplied a loaf of white bread,
Two casks of wine and a leg of mutton,
In the corner of a garden with a tulip-cheeked girl
There'd be enjoyment no Sultan could outdo." - Omar Khayyam.
n4cat
Ahhhh
*big grin*
That's ok then.
Tooheys Old is quiet a nice drop and all Coopers are ok, as long as you
don't mind getting that furry feeling on your tongue while you drink it,
instead of the morning after. (ha ha me so funny )
Winter however is for port, green ginger wine, or a nice mulled wine or
fruit liqueur (separately, not all mixed together) a nice book and an open
fire
*sigh*
--
n4cat (who has none of the above)
n4cat
> I parked the car last night a bit too far away from the kerb (we live on a
main
> road). As I was looking back at it, wondering if I should get back in and
> re-park it, I tripped up the front step. As I nimbly recovered, I tripped
up
> the third step (or was it the fourth?), bypassing the second step
completely.
> Thinking I had it under control, I didn't; gracelessly falling toward the
door,
> face planting into it. Thankfully I didn't crush my glasses; merely my
face and
> hands.
If any one asks you what happened to your face and hands you can smile at
them and ask if they have seen fight club. ;)
--
n4cat
jay
>Winter however is for port, green ginger wine, or a nice mulled wine or
>fruit liqueur (separately, not all mixed together) a nice book and an open
>fire
>
>*sigh*
>
Is green ginger wine Portuguese? I've never tried it. It's now on 'the list'.
jay
n4cat
It's a very cheap drink not unlike good ginger ale but no fizz and more
bite.
--
n4cat
Sandro
>>>>[snip story of unfortunate accident]
It's a shame no-one was videotaping, you could have gone on
Funniest Home Videos, and they could have put those wacky sound
effects in the background and...
>>>>>On a lighter note, the six pack of beer I was carrying
>>>>>under my arm emerged unscathed.
>>>>The most important thing. You could have fractured your
>>>>freakin' skull but you have a _moral_obligation_ to ensure
>>>>that the beer is intact.
>>>>:)
>>>>Mr Q. Z. D.
>>>Ah! Now I'll have to disagree with this statement.
>>>It depends on what TYPE of beer.
>>>Heaven forbid that I would even think of possibly cogitating
>>>that Jay would drink the 'wrong' sort of beer, but the world
>>>could do with less fosters IMNSHO.
If he was carrying a sixpack of Foster's he would have deserved
falling arse over tit and cracking his skull
>>Toohey's Old, actually. Really nice in winter. I had a bit of
>>a half-arsed look for Coopers Dark Ale first but couldn't
>>find it.
>>jay
>Ahhhh
>*big grin*
>That's ok then.
>Tooheys Old is quiet a nice drop and all
Shame on both of you for supporting that reprehensible Nike of
the Australian beer industry!! That awful company purchased
several of my favourite pubs, and placed their rancid swill on
tap mandatorially. Toohey's Old is their most drinkable product,
agreed, but come on!! Real men drink Kilkenny anyway *sniff* :)
>Coopers are ok, as long as you don't mind getting that furry
>feeling on your tongue while you drink it, instead of the
>morning after. (ha ha me so funny )
Yes, well...
>Winter however is for port, green ginger wine, or a nice mulled
>wine or fruit liqueur (separately, not all mixed together) a
>nice book and an open fire
Indeed. Except Stone's Ginger Wine should only be consumed by
underage teenagers.
"Even the winos on the street wouldn't touch that stuff,
Withnail."
"That's because they can't afford it."
"But Withnail, you should never mix your drinks."
Okay, so that's about anti-freeze, but it sums up my thoughts
on Stone's.
>*sigh*
Don't sigh. Daddy's here.
Sandro - drinking right now. Tea of course.
Spyinthesky
"Sandro" <cein...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:3b3151d5$1...@nexus.comcen.com.au...
> If he was carrying a sixpack of Foster's he would have deserved
> falling arse over tit and cracking his skull
Am I the only person in Australia who actually doesn't mind Fosters??!
> >>Toohey's Old, actually. Really nice in winter. I had a bit of
> >>a half-arsed look for Coopers Dark Ale first but couldn't
> >>find it.
I like sparkling burgundy in the winter. I'm not a huge red drinker, it
knocks me over big time, but I can handle a glass or so of the sparkling.
> Shame on both of you for supporting that reprehensible Nike of
> the Australian beer industry!! That awful company purchased
> several of my favourite pubs, and placed their rancid swill on
> tap mandatorially. Toohey's Old is their most drinkable product,
> agreed, but come on!! Real men drink Kilkenny anyway *sniff* :)
Tooheys New? that stuff is *foul*
> >Coopers are ok, as long as you don't mind getting that furry
> >feeling on your tongue while you drink it, instead of the
> >morning after. (ha ha me so funny )
Mmm, i've noticed that, it's someowhat odd..
> Indeed. Except Stone's Ginger Wine should only be consumed by
> underage teenagers.
Didn't Bon Scott drink that?
spy: as my (dead) nonna would say, "he's dead now poor fellow"
--
"I don't believe in painted roses, or bleeding hearts"
U2
spy
Hobbes
>
>
>I like sparkling burgundy in the winter. I'm not a huge red drinker, it
>knocks me over big time, but I can handle a glass or so of the sparkling.
>
I don't understand sparkling reds - it seems wrong somehow
Hobbes (fizz)
--
<arty> non-gender-specific deranged non-specific sharp pointy
thing on a stick weilding homicidal maniac
<Holocaine> arty: You mean Hobbes?
jay
>If any one asks you what happened to your face and hands you can smile at
>them and ask if they have seen fight club. ;)
Funny you should say that - I watched that last night!
jay
jay
>It's a shame no-one was videotaping, you could have gone on
>Funniest Home Videos, and they could have put those wacky sound
>effects in the background and...
BOINGGGG!
>If he was carrying a sixpack of Foster's he would have deserved
>falling arse over tit and cracking his skull
True. I don't think anyone drinks that except for tourists anyway.
>Shame on both of you for supporting that reprehensible Nike of
>the Australian beer industry!! That awful company purchased
>several of my favourite pubs, and placed their rancid swill on
>tap mandatorially. Toohey's Old is their most drinkable product,
>agreed, but come on!! Real men drink Kilkenny anyway *sniff* :)
Yeah - I think CUB are worse than Lion Nathan in terms of pub purchases,
though: every second pub in Sydney has either a Vic or Melbourne sign out the
front. What ever happened to the 'Rock' near Wagga?
Toohey's Old is Toohey's _only_ drinkable product. And _what_ a product. But I
agree, Kilkenny is a top drop. Nicer on tap than out of a can, though.
jay
jay
>Am I the only person in Australia who actually doesn't mind Fosters??!
OK - you twisted my arm. Fosters makes a nice shandy on a 40 degree day in the
middle of summer, but that's about it. Too sugary, otherwise, for mine.
jay
jay
>Newsgroups: aus.culture.gothic
>> I had a bit of a half-arsed look
>>for Coopers Dark Ale first but couldn't find it.
>
>I haven't tried that one. Any reviews?
>
Not sure exactly where to look, but try these two pages:
http://www.australianbeers.com/beers/coopers_dark/coopers_dark_ale.htm
http://www.beerawards.com/Results/Archives/1999/All_Classes/class03darkale
packaged.html
If these links don't work (and they probably won't), it's AOL's fault :o)
jay
Spark
Spyinthesky <na...@russellcrowe.ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:_UdY6.8708$qJ4.3...@ozemail.com.au...
> > If he was carrying a sixpack of Foster's he would have deserved
> > falling arse over tit and cracking his skull
>
> Am I the only person in Australia who actually doesn't mind Fosters??!
I quite like it. Foster's Special Bitter they had a few years ago was a nice
drop, and I tend to quite like more malt-y lagers. They'r not imitation
bitters :-)
txxxpxx
"n4cat" <n4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> fruit liqueur (separately, not all mixed together) a nice book and an open
> fire
>
Arggghhhh Green *shuuder* Ginger *bigger shudder* Wiiiiinnnneeee
*BLARGHHHHH* head down throwing up noises* Sooo yuck! (But then I am
allergic to ginger)
Winter Warmer - now theres a story. Got Tony's pussbagwhorefromhell mother
drunk on it in an attempt to get her to pass out & stop bothering us. She
came down to the pub one christmas (when we were still in UK) so we gave her
a glass. She said it tastes like coke! (Well she is looney after all)
"Now this isn't alkyholik is it Antony" (He hates being called that) "Cause
you know I can't drink alkyhol"
"No Mum, it's just like coke - honest. Drink it up & stop whinging"
"Are you sure, Antony?"
"Yes, Mum, I'm sure. Now just drink it all up"
Instead of passing out, she made passes at all the guys in the pub,
including the ones there with their wives & families.
Are you sure there is a law against bludgeoning some-one to death in the
name of humanity?
This thread tho, reminds me that I've got a bottle of mulling wine in the
wine rack that I bought last year. Perhaps I should get a few more bottles &
have a mulled wine party?
TxxxPop
txxxpxx
"jay" <slowli...@aol.communism> wrote in message
news:20010620194956...@ng-mc1.aol.com...
> I parked the car last night a bit too far away from the kerb (we live on a
main
*snigger* I sooo know that I shouldn't giggle at anothers misfortune
*giggle* but frankly *chorttle* I did a similar thing the other day *Loud
laugh* at my new job *guffaw*
Scene - New clients in the theatrette, Pop trying hard to impress.
Event - Pop tries to explain to them what the difference between front
projection & rear projection is (Duhhhhh).
Forgets that there is a small in built stage now covered by a drape line but
juuuust in front of the screen I was trying to get to. Trips on stage edge,
falls face first towards screen, grabs drape line to steady self, screen
starts flapping, drape line comes dangerously close to completely falling
down & all I can think of is "Christ its a fucking mess behind that drape
line- I really dont want clients to see that"
Klunk - lands extremely ungracefully, arse in air, on stage in front of
clients.
No-one laughs - But they bloody well should have!!
TxxxPopwhodidnotgettheaccountincidentlybutthenIwouldn'thaveawardedittomeeith
er!
Greylock
>On a lighter note, the six pack of beer I was carrying under my arm emerged
>unscathed.
Blessed be Bacchus, Protector of Alcoholic Beverages from Freak Accidents!
-----
H*ydn
Sandro on clubs:
"... Wanting to have people dancing all the time is the equivalent of the "Applause" sign
they light up for studio audiences when they're recording a
tv program: it's to convince us that something or some place
is more popular and likable than it really is."
txxxpxx
"Hobbes" <hob...@atlantis.ecr.mu.oz.au> wrote in message
news:slrn9j32o6...@atlantis.ecr.mu.oz.au...
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:32:06 +1000, Spyinthesky wrote:
> >
> >
> >I like sparkling burgundy in the winter. I'm not a huge red drinker, it
> >knocks me over big time, but I can handle a glass or so of the sparkling.
> >
>
> I don't understand sparkling reds - it seems wrong somehow
>
because I really enjoy a good red but can't seem to take the heaviness of
them in winter. Sparkling is just that much lighter & refreshing. I agree
tho', it is somehow a bit of an anomoly.
TxxxPop
txxxpxx
"jay" <slowli...@aol.communism> wrote in message
TxxxPop
Sandro
>Got Foxtel too huh?
Got it here, too. And by all the merry gods, do I love having
it. It fucking rocks and brings meaning to my life I never
would have expected. I don't watch more telly now, I just
enjoy what I watch more now, due to the added choice. You
can go from an episode of the Goodies to Trek to a documentary
about Iberian walrus herders to Fight Club to crappy standup
comedy from the late 80's in the flicker of an instant. Though
I've only had it for 3 weeks, who knows how quickly I'll tire
of it. And the cartoons! And the bad Australian made-for-cable
programs! And the most hilarious thing...
Try this for an experiment: On a Saturday night, with about five
drunk / stoned people in your lounge room, change the channel
to one of those numbers that no-one in their right minds would
pay for ie. those ones in the 40's. There's that particular
channel which allegedly plays naughty films after 11. Of course
there's no picture, since it's blocked, but see how long it takes
before people are rolling around on the floor in apoplexia at
the cheesy dialogue and paid groans and moans of pornland
extravaganzas. It brings a tear to my eye just thinking about
it. People get bored of it after five minutes, but still, it's
funny. Well I thought it was funny, don't look at me that way,
sheesh, I was only trying to...
Sandro
--
"I haven't been fucked like that since grade school." - Marla,
Fight Club
Greylock
>This thread tho, reminds me that I've got a bottle of mulling wine in the
>wine rack that I bought last year. Perhaps I should get a few more bottles &
>have a mulled wine party?
Can you hold off a while, until 3D me can get to Melbourne?
3DH: Accept no imitations (where possible).
Sandro
>>It's a shame no-one was videotaping, you could have gone on
>>Funniest Home Videos, and they could have put those wacky sound
>>effects in the background and...
>BOINGGGG!
>>If he was carrying a sixpack of Foster's he would have deserved
>>falling arse over tit and cracking his skull
>True. I don't think anyone drinks that except for tourists
>anyway.
And my dad. He's the only adult I know that drinks it by
preference and in profusion. And he wonders why I always decline
it upon my visits. Apart from the fact that it's usually midday
on a Sunday when he asks me if I want some :)
>>Shame on both of you for supporting that reprehensible Nike of
>>the Australian beer industry!! That awful company purchased
>>several of my favourite pubs, and placed their rancid swill on
>>tap mandatorially. Toohey's Old is their most drinkable
>>product, agreed, but come on!! Real men drink Kilkenny anyway
>>*sniff* :)
>Yeah - I think CUB are worse than Lion Nathan in terms of pub
>purchases, though: every second pub in Sydney has either a Vic
>or Melbourne sign out the front.
Yes, but the difference is that CUB make a consistently decent
drinkable beer. You can all keep your Hoegarden's, Witbeers and
Belgian waffle beers. For my (cheap, small amounts of) money,
I like just being able to consistently expect a decent beer on
tap when I go to any establishment, be it a pub or a bar. Buying
bottles of beer in a bar is de rigeur, I guess, but it should be
a criminal offence in a decent pub, which certain ones are
forcing you to do due to the shiteness of the beer on tap. But
Carlton Draught on tap is as reliable as the sun coming come,
Australian sitcoms being crap and never getting as much money
back on your tax returns as you thought.
>What ever happened to the 'Rock' near Wagga?
I don't know, and I'm sorry for your loss.
>Toohey's Old is Toohey's _only_ drinkable product. And _what_ a
>product. But I agree, Kilkenny is a top drop. Nicer on tap than
>out of a can, though.
Definitely, absolutely definitely, but I sometimes like wasting
my money on a can or two for home use only. On tap it can't be
beat, but you can only usually get it in pseudo franchise Irish
pubs, for which you have to suffer the ultimate indignity of
listening to that same tape of folk music every fucking day at
the same time.
Sandro - there is only one Irish song, and three hundred
variations on the theme.
jay
>*snigger* I sooo know that I shouldn't giggle at anothers misfortune
>*giggle* but frankly *chorttle* I did a similar thing the other day *Loud
>laugh* at my new job *guffaw*
>
>Scene - New clients in the theatrette, Pop trying hard to impress.
>
>Event - Pop tries to explain to them what the difference between front
>projection & rear projection is (Duhhhhh).
>
>Forgets that there is a small in built stage now covered by a drape line but
>juuuust in front of the screen I was trying to get to. Trips on stage edge,
>falls face first towards screen, grabs drape line to steady self, screen
>starts flapping, drape line comes dangerously close to completely falling
>down & all I can think of is "Christ its a fucking mess behind that drape
>line- I really dont want clients to see that"
>
>Klunk - lands extremely ungracefully, arse in air, on stage in front of
>clients.
>
>No-one laughs - But they bloody well should have!!
I laughed - if that makes you feel any better (or worse!)
Maybe if you'd gotten up with arms raised in the air, gymnastics style, you'd
have gotten away with it :o)
jay
Barbarella
> >drink the 'wrong' sort of beer, but the world could do with less fosters
> >IMNSHO.
>
> Toohey's Old, actually. Really nice in winter. I had a bit of a half-arsed look
> for Coopers Dark Ale first but couldn't find it.
MMmmmmm... Toohey's Old. Black Ale - ya gotta love it. Ya just gotta.
I think it's better than the Coopers Dark Ale, actually. But then, even
though I fully appreciate Coopers' beers and think they're a damn fine
brewing company, I've never subscribed to the all-fawning "Coopers Is
The Only Drinkable Beer" theory that so many people seem to have...
*shrug* I've had better. :)
And the Toohey's Old bottle caps make such cool badges. :) I wear my
black'n'red OLD badge on my leather jacket with extreme pride.
Barbarella.
--
TheUnfaithfulWriter: http://www.internettrash.com/users/barbarella.
Several hundred miles of snaking tarmac,
Leads to smoky door, violent sound & haunting spirits,
Amongst them, an object of fantasy,
Black lace and spiky hair, penetrating eyes, & a ghostly grin. -jbk
Barbarella
>
> "Sandro" <cein...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:3b3151d5$1...@nexus.comcen.com.au...
> > If he was carrying a sixpack of Foster's he would have deserved
> > falling arse over tit and cracking his skull
>
> Am I the only person in Australia who actually doesn't mind Fosters??!
Yes. :)
Actually, in all fairness, I have to admit that Fosters do good light
beers. The best drinkable light beers, in fact.
But then... 's no great suprise that they should be good at making
pissweak beer. They've had plenty of practice, afterall.
Barbarella
>
> Last episode "txxxpxx" <txx...@bigpond.com> said:
> >This thread tho, reminds me that I've got a bottle of mulling wine in the
> >wine rack that I bought last year. Perhaps I should get a few more bottles &
> >have a mulled wine party?
>
> Can you hold off a while, until 3D me can get to Melbourne?
So, how long do we all hafta wait 'til we can get us some mulled wine?
:)
(and will Tim have to compose a poem about the real you when you get
back here? *grin*)
> 3DH: Accept no imitations (where possible).
But will you be happy about TxxxPxx sticking your head into her coffee
or feeding you my beer?
Barbarella - "MY beer!"
Trayce
<barba...@internettrash.com> wrote:
>Greylock wrote:
>> 3DH: Accept no imitations (where possible).
>
>But will you be happy about TxxxPxx sticking your head into her coffee
>or feeding you my beer?
How does one go about feeding beer to a cardboard likeness, I'm
wondering? ;P
Trayce (wishing *I* had such a fanclub that carried me to outings when
I was in absentia! ;P)
--
faith in chaos
trace @ connect.net.au
new site: http://www.memorygongs.f2s.com
Barbarella
>
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:38:27 +1000, Barbarella
> <barba...@internettrash.com> wrote:
> >Greylock wrote:
> >> 3DH: Accept no imitations (where possible).
> >
> >But will you be happy about TxxxPxx sticking your head into her coffee
> >or feeding you my beer?
>
> How does one go about feeding beer to a cardboard likeness, I'm
> wondering? ;P
Well... it's true he doesn't drink much. :)
> Trayce (wishing *I* had such a fanclub that carried me to outings when
> I was in absentia! ;P)
Heh. You just wanna get into my box. ;)
Barbarella.
jojo
Hobbes wrote:
I guess first you think "should I be doing this" and it feels a bit norty,
then you get stuck on the sensation and you're lost...
mmm Peter Rumball... mmmm
and Swords do a nice one for ten bucks if you're feeling stingy
jojo
Barbarella wrote:
anyone wanna do mulled wine German style (gluhwein?) can head on over to the Yak
Speakeasy in Collingwood. I'll be there tonight in fact...
txxxpxx
"txxxpxx" <txx...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hobbes" <hob...@atlantis.ecr.mu.oz.au> wrote in message
> news:slrn9j32o6...@atlantis.ecr.mu.oz.au...
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:32:06 +1000, Spyinthesky wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >I like sparkling burgundy in the winter. I'm not a huge red drinker, it
> > >knocks me over big time, but I can handle a glass or so of the
sparkling.
> > >
> >
> > I don't understand sparkling reds - it seems wrong somehow
> >
> I actually prefer sparkling reds when it is really hot. I think it is
> because I really enjoy a good red but can't seem to take the heaviness of
> them in winter.
Did I say winter? I meant summer - rasn frasn stupid hangovers
> TxxxPop
>
>
Sara
>
> I don't understand sparkling reds - it seems wrong somehow
don't knock it until you've tried it - got half a dozen Morris
Shiraz-Durrif as a weding pressie last year, mmm.... more...
for the unintiated, they are similar to drinking Lambrusco - that is
they feel light going down, you don't get the heavy texture many of
the better 'still' reds give you, but boy do they have a kick....
Sara
*hic*
Sara
> Blessed be Bacchus, Protector of Alcoholic Beverages from Freak Accidents!
When I was at college, we voted a guy president of the student club
soley on the basis that he had fallen down three flights of stars
earlier in the year - without spilling one drop of the open beer he
had in his hand at the time...
IF that doesn't qualify you as student body president at a residential
college, then I don't know what would...
Sara
(spent WAY too much time talking about FOUL and Scav Hunt with Bruce
on the weekend - flashback overload...)
Hobbes
>hob...@atlantis.ecr.mu.oz.au (Hobbes) wrote in message news:<slrn9j32o6...@atlantis.ecr.mu.oz.au>...
>
>>
>> I don't understand sparkling reds - it seems wrong somehow
>
>
>don't knock it until you've tried it - got half a dozen Morris
>Shiraz-Durrif as a weding pressie last year, mmm.... more...
>
australia) and tried them there at the cellar door. Some of the shiraz's
fizzling were interesting - but still didn't work for me.
Mikey got one from Swords (is that the right name - mob on bruunswick st, does
recycled bottle thing) that tasted like fizzy red cordial - that was nice,
not really what I'd think of as a wine tho.
Cute idea - sure there is something in it - just haven't found one that
works for me yet.
Hobbes (leaning towards dry whites these days)