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Abusive Liar Party
Apr 12, 2015, 8:00:21 PM4/12/15
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On 13/04/2015 9:31 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>
>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>
>>
>
> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>
> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
> medical reason.
>
As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious extremists:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/anti-vaccination-parents-may-face-welfare-bans/story-fneuzlbd-1227292380498
"Labor leader Bill Shorten wants exemptions to welfare bans on strict
religious grounds only"
So IOW, if you are a religious extremist, Bill is happy for you to be
exempt.
Moral of the story?
Become a religious extremist, then a Bill Shorten gubmint will trust you.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch
Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C
ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b
So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH
ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG
The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/
Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PguhkVG49To),
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).
#auspol #ausdebate
> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>
>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>
>>
>
> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>
> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
> medical reason.
>
As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious extremists:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/anti-vaccination-parents-may-face-welfare-bans/story-fneuzlbd-1227292380498
"Labor leader Bill Shorten wants exemptions to welfare bans on strict
religious grounds only"
So IOW, if you are a religious extremist, Bill is happy for you to be
exempt.
Moral of the story?
Become a religious extremist, then a Bill Shorten gubmint will trust you.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch
Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C
ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b
So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH
ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG
The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/
Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PguhkVG49To),
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).
#auspol #ausdebate
Rod Speed
Apr 12, 2015, 9:47:04 PM4/12/15
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"Abusive Liar Party" <bjfo...@yahoo.alp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 13/04/2015 9:31 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>>
>>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>>
>> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
>> medical reason.
>>
>
> As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious
> extremists:
>
> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/anti-vaccination-parents-may-face-welfare-bans/story-fneuzlbd-1227292380498
>
> "Labor leader Bill Shorten wants exemptions to welfare bans on strict
> religious grounds only"
>
> So IOW, if you are a religious extremist, Bill is happy for you to be
> exempt.
>
> Moral of the story?
>
> Become a religious extremist, then a Bill Shorten gubmint will trust you.
Maybe he wants more of their kids to die before they breed.
>> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>>
>>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>>
>> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
>> medical reason.
>>
>
> As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious
> extremists:
>
> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/anti-vaccination-parents-may-face-welfare-bans/story-fneuzlbd-1227292380498
>
> "Labor leader Bill Shorten wants exemptions to welfare bans on strict
> religious grounds only"
>
> So IOW, if you are a religious extremist, Bill is happy for you to be
> exempt.
>
> Moral of the story?
>
> Become a religious extremist, then a Bill Shorten gubmint will trust you.
HD
Apr 12, 2015, 10:21:13 PM4/12/15
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On 4/13/2015 10:00 AM, Abusive Liar Party wrote:
> On 13/04/2015 9:31 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>>
>>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>>
>> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
>> medical reason.
>>
>
> As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious
> extremists:
>
> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/anti-vaccination-parents-may-face-welfare-bans/story-fneuzlbd-1227292380498
>
>
> "Labor leader Bill Shorten wants exemptions to welfare bans on strict
> religious grounds only"
>
> So IOW, if you are a religious extremist, Bill is happy for you to be
> exempt.
>
> Moral of the story?
>
> Become a religious extremist, then a Bill Shorten gubmint will trust you.
>
If your religion is greed and you don't need need welfare, Abbott will
> On 13/04/2015 9:31 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>>
>>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>>
>> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
>> medical reason.
>>
>
> As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious
> extremists:
>
> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/anti-vaccination-parents-may-face-welfare-bans/story-fneuzlbd-1227292380498
>
>
> "Labor leader Bill Shorten wants exemptions to welfare bans on strict
> religious grounds only"
>
> So IOW, if you are a religious extremist, Bill is happy for you to be
> exempt.
>
> Moral of the story?
>
> Become a religious extremist, then a Bill Shorten gubmint will trust you.
>
be on your side
and trust you that your non vaccinated kids will not pass on their
diseases.
On the other hand, maybe he will make it compulsory to join the Liberal
party to get welfare.
Abusive Liar Party
Apr 12, 2015, 10:58:38 PM4/12/15
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after a superbug takes out the rest of us.
Abusive Liar Party
Apr 12, 2015, 11:04:50 PM4/12/15
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withold welfare.
In *fact*, he boasts that it *was* Labor policy in the first place.
It may even be the first time that Labor has supported one of their own
policies implemented by the Coalition.
Leftist fascism - the ALP can't say "no" to it.
The ALP has opposed every single *good* policy from the government and
*supported* the solitary *bad* policy from the government.
So the bottom line, is that the ALP is 200% fucking useless.
> and trust you that your non vaccinated kids will not pass on their
> diseases.
> On the other hand, maybe he will make it compulsory to join the Liberal
> party to get welfare.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
dechucka
Apr 13, 2015, 12:30:51 AM4/13/15
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"Abusive Liar Party" <bjfo...@yahoo.alp.invalid> wrote in message
news:cp0f8k...@mid.individual.net...
> On 13/04/2015 9:31 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>>
>>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>>
>> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
>> medical reason.
>>
>
> As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious
> extremists:
So does Abbott, try not to make everything political
>> On 13/04/2015 9:15 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>> I am am a total supporter of vaccination for kids, adults and animals
>>> but are uncomfortable with only religious and medical grounds being the
>>> exemption for this policy. OK of course medical grounds is an absolute
>>> exemption but why only religious grounds not philosophical. We are a
>>> sectarian country so imho religion should not be part of policy.
>>>
>>> Of course I do realize that bringing in philosophical objections weakens
>>> the governments push to get the loonies and the lazy to vaccinate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Any person who accepts the precepts of a religion IS a loony.
>>
>> Vaccination for everyone. NO exceptions, unless there is a bloody
>> medical reason.
>>
>
> As it happens Bill Shorten wants to grant exemption to religious
> extremists:
dechucka
Apr 13, 2015, 12:31:49 AM4/13/15
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"Abusive Liar Party" <bjfo...@yahoo.alp.invalid> wrote in message
HD
Apr 13, 2015, 2:39:45 AM4/13/15
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a similar financial punishment for those parents who don't receive any
welfare payments.
Rod Speed
Apr 13, 2015, 3:08:03 AM4/13/15
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"Abusive Liar Party" <bjfo...@yahoo.alp.invalid> wrote in message
> then they will inherit the earth after a superbug takes out the rest of
> us.
And no superbug will ever take out the rest of us anyway.
We understand infectious disease so well now that that won't
happen even if it is highly virulent and easily spread by just
breathing, we'd just isolate once that became clear like with ebola.
Rod Speed
Apr 13, 2015, 3:10:23 AM4/13/15
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> and there is a similar financial punishment for those parents who don't
> receive any welfare payments.
HD
Apr 13, 2015, 4:05:58 AM4/13/15
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Vaccinate your kids or pay another 2% income tax.
Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of
others getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
Everything is possible
Abusive Liar Party
Apr 13, 2015, 4:39:42 AM4/13/15
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dechucka
Apr 13, 2015, 4:47:58 AM4/13/15
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not bad
> Everything is possible
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> Everything is possible
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Rod Speed
Apr 13, 2015, 6:57:20 AM4/13/15
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We'll see...
> Vaccinate your kids or pay another 2% income tax.
The stinking rich pay no income tax so they will just yawn.
> Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of others
> getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
The stinking rich pay no income tax so they will just yawn.
> Everything is possible
Even sillier than you usually manage.
> Vaccinate your kids or pay another 2% income tax.
> Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of others
> getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
> Everything is possible
Even sillier than you usually manage.
Rod Speed
Apr 13, 2015, 6:58:36 AM4/13/15
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>> Everything is possible
Abusive Liar Party
Apr 13, 2015, 7:04:28 AM4/13/15
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Sane people-> forced vaccinations-> no immunity-> potential extinction
Lovely.
>
>> then they will inherit the earth after a superbug takes out the rest
>> of us.
>
> Nope, because they won't be any more immune to that than the rest of us.
Over & out.
>
> And no superbug will ever take out the rest of us anyway.
>
> We understand infectious disease so well now that that won't
> happen even if it is highly virulent and easily spread by just
> breathing, we'd just isolate once that became clear like with ebola.
Abusive Liar Party
Apr 13, 2015, 7:14:11 AM4/13/15
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Your stinking poor bogan pests disease up the place and you want us to
pay *another* 2%!
> Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of
> others getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
> Everything is possible
>
plague-bearing rats.
HD
Apr 13, 2015, 8:52:22 AM4/13/15
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Our kids are immunized against everything from measles to TB
and anything else they could pick up on our overseas trips.
>
>
>> Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of
>> others getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
>> Everything is possible
>>
>
> Our kids baths every day and have good hygiene, unlike your little
> plague-bearing rats.
>
You are a fucking idiot.
Abusive Liar Party
Apr 13, 2015, 10:54:58 AM4/13/15
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>
>>
>>
>>> Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of
>>> others getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
>>> Everything is possible
>>>
>>
>> Our kids baths every day and have good hygiene, unlike your little
>> plague-bearing rats.
>>
>
> Got 3 bathrooms in the house including the on-suite.
> You are a fucking idiot.
>
Rod Speed
Apr 13, 2015, 3:46:02 PM4/13/15
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"Abusive Liar Party" <bjfo...@yahoo.alp.invalid> wrote in message
> Sane people-> forced vaccinations-> no immunity
point of vaccination is to get immunity, stupid.
> -> potential extinction
> Lovely.
>>> then they will inherit the earth after a superbug takes out the rest
>>> of us.
>>
>> Nope, because they won't be any more immune to that than the rest of us.
>
> You're a moron.
> Over & out.
You've always been completely out of it.
HD
Apr 13, 2015, 8:09:57 PM4/13/15
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>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Or maybe a higher Medicare levy to cover the additional cost of
>>>> others getting the bugs from your non vaccinated kids.
>>>> Everything is possible
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our kids baths every day and have good hygiene, unlike your little
>>> plague-bearing rats.
>>>
>>
>> Got 3 bathrooms in the house including the on-suite.
>> You are a fucking idiot.
>>
>
> Cleanliness is close to Godliness, as they say - I hope you use them.
>
dechucka
Apr 13, 2015, 8:13:02 PM4/13/15
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snip
>> That's the problem - bogan brats picking up pests!
>
> And of course, you have photos of your kids to prove it.
The only kids he has is Mrs. Palms five daughters
>> That's the problem - bogan brats picking up pests!
>
> And of course, you have photos of your kids to prove it.
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