Telstra!

[Peter Jason]

I have their cheapest DOT Business plan which gives 4 phone
extensions, Internet and optionally fax and other complicated stuff
I've switched off.

I also have a mobile pre-paid.

I want to link/blend/add this mobile to the DOT Business Plan but for
some reason they won't do it, after spending a day on the phone with
them. Why is it so difficult?

[Rod Speed]

Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote

Because Telstra is useless.

Put the mobile on a $10 a month unlimited calls and texts and
MMSs to any landline or mobile in the country and 4-6 GB of
data on the optarse network.

[Mountain Magpies]

On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:22:15 +1100, Peter Jason posted:-

You deserve a VC talking to Tel$tra for a whole day! Painful people
there at the best of times.

[Peter Jason]

There wasn't much talking. Rather the teen creature at the other end
of the line kept running off to consult her "supervisor".

[Peter Jason]

Well, I can't find this. Exploring the Optus web page(s) is like
finding a plot in a phone book.

[Petzl]

Depending where you are may give different quality coverage for Optus
or Telstra mobile.

The cheaper selection is to check Aldi/Boost for Telstra,

Amaysim for Optus carrier.
Rod uses a carrier for Optus this one MONTHLY charge but doesn't save
unused data
https://moosemobile.com.au/

I use also Optus but 28 day renewal but banks unused data
https://www.amaysim.com.au/plans/mobile-plans/

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I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

[Rod Speed]

Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote

> Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> I have their cheapest DOT Business plan which gives
>>>> 4 phone extensions, Internet and optionally fax and
>>>> other complicated stuff I've switched off.
>>>
>>>> I also have a mobile pre-paid.
>>>
>>>> I want to link/blend/add this mobile to the DOT Business
>>>> Plan but for some reason they won't do it, after spending
>>>> a day on the phone with them. Why is it so difficult?
>>>
>>>Because Telstra is useless.
>>>
>>>Put the mobile on a $10 a month unlimited calls and texts and
>>>MMSs to any landline or mobile in the country and 4-6 GB of
>>>data on the optarse network.
>>
>>Well, I can't find this. Exploring the Optus web page(s) is like
>>finding a plot in a phone book.
>
> Depending where you are may give different quality coverage for Optus
> or Telstra mobile.
>
> The cheaper selection is to check Aldi/Boost for Telstra,
>
> Amaysim for Optus carrier.
> Rod uses a carrier for Optus this one MONTHLY
> charge but doesn't save unused data
> https://moosemobile.com.au/

Don't need rollover of unused data given that I have 6GB a month
and don't even use 1GB a month navigating to garage sales and
checking for new garage sales when out and about even with the
broadband down for a couple of days and used as a hotspot.

Its unlikely that dinosaur would use even 1GB of data a month unless
he is into watching videos on his phone when not at home or work.

[Rod Speed]

"Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
news:ja2qrglioseehv98r...@4ax.com...

I was talking about an optus reseller, not optus themselves.

Try Moose. Amaysim can be ok but they charge you the fixed
fee every 28 days instead of every calendar month which means
you pay it 13 times a year instead of 12 times a year.

The other variable to watch out for is that some are limited time
wise, like only for the first 6 months etc. I ignore those.

https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Search?calls=-1&sms=-1&customer=Personal&address=Melbourne+VIC&tab=plans&prepaid=1

[Mountain Magpies]

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 14:43:24 +1100, Rod Speed posted:-

Roddles, would you happen to know if Moose allow mobile hotspots? Some
of these services don't, and nothing on their web page specific to this.

[Rod Speed]

Mountain Magpies <inv...@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote

>> >>> I have their cheapest DOT Business plan which gives
>> >>> 4 phone extensions, Internet and optionally fax and
>> >>> other complicated stuff I've switched off.
>> >>
>> >>> I also have a mobile pre-paid.
>> >>
>> >>> I want to link/blend/add this mobile to the DOT Business
>> >>> Plan but for some reason they won't do it, after spending
>> >>> a day on the phone with them. Why is it so difficult?
>> >>
>> >>Because Telstra is useless.
>> >>
>> >>Put the mobile on a $10 a month unlimited calls and texts and
>> >>MMSs to any landline or mobile in the country and 4-6 GB of
>> >>data on the optarse network.
>> >
>> > Well, I can't find this. Exploring the Optus web page(s) is like
>> > finding a plot in a phone book.
>>
>> I was talking about an optus reseller, not optus themselves.
>>
>> Try Moose. Amaysim can be ok but they charge you the fixed
>> fee every 28 days instead of every calendar month which means
>> you pay it 13 times a year instead of 12 times a year.
>>
>> The other variable to watch out for is that some are limited time
>> wise, like only for the first 6 months etc. I ignore those.
>>
>> https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Search?calls=-1&sms=-1&customer=Personal&address=Melbourne+VIC&tab=plans&prepaid=1
>>
>
> Roddles, would you happen to know if Moose allow mobile hotspots?

Yep, works fine and I have done it a few times this year.

> Some of these services don't,

I haven't noticed any who don't here.

> and nothing on their web page specific to this.

Because none don't.

[Computer Nerd Kev]

Mountain Magpies <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> Roddles, would you happen to know if Moose allow mobile hotspots? Some
> of these services don't,

Don't what? Don't allow you to connect other devices to your
phone/modem via WiFi so they can access its internet connection?
There's bugger all that they can do about that. I guess maybe
some phones could have an evil bit of software that disables the
functionality if your telco doesn't approve, but that would just
be a prime reason not to use those phones.

I've got a USB mobile broadband modem plugged into a router running
OpenWRT and the modem ought to have no idea that various computers
in my home use it for their internet via Ethernet or WiFi.

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[Rod Speed]

Computer Nerd Kev <n...@telling.you.invalid> wrote

> Mountain Magpies <inv...@nospam.com> wrote

>> Roddles, would you happen to know if Moose allow
>> mobile hotspots? Some of these services don't,

> Don't what?

Allow mobile hotspots

> Don't allow you to connect other devices to your phone/
> modem via WiFi so they can access its internet connection?

Yep.

> There's bugger all that they can do about that.

That’s wrong, some US mobile carriers don’t allow that.

> I guess maybe some phones could have
> an evil bit of software that disables the
> functionality if your telco doesn't approve,

Yep, and easy to include that in the sim
config when you join their network.

> but that would just be a prime
> reason not to use those phones.

Doesn’t help when any phone can be configured that way.

> I've got a USB mobile broadband modem plugged into a router running
> OpenWRT and the modem ought to have no idea that various computers
> in my home use it for their internet via Ethernet or WiFi.

Different issue entirely to a hotspot on your phone.

[Mountain Magpies]

On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 10:39:19 +1100, Rod Speed posted:-

> > Don't allow you to connect other devices to your phone/
> > modem via WiFi so they can access its internet connection?
>
> Yep.
>
> > There's bugger all that they can do about that.
>
> That’s wrong, some US mobile carriers don’t allow that.

Also in Viet Nam, could never use the mobile hotspot on my phone,
although I could use the local phone network.

[Rod Speed]

Mountain Magpies <inv...@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Don't allow you to connect other devices to your phone/
>>> modem via WiFi so they can access its internet connection?

>> Yep.

>>> There's bugger all that they can do about that.

>> That’s wrong, some US mobile carriers don’t allow that.

> Also in Viet Nam, could never use the mobile hotspot on
> my phone, although I could use the local phone network.

Yeah, its trivial for the carrier to disable that.
Same with support for other features.

[Frank Slootweg]

As Roddles and Mountain Magpies wrote, in some countries some
providers don't allow mobile hotspots on their basic service. AFAIK,
they check on the IMEI number of the device to allow/disallow such use.

But, as you noted, in non-third_world countries like Oz (and NL/EU/
Europe), we don't have such sillyness! :-) In those countries, a GB is a
GB, not 'maybe a GB'.

[Yosemite Sam]

On 18/12/2021 2:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
> news:ja2qrglioseehv98r...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:52:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> I have their cheapest DOT Business plan which gives
>>>> 4 phone extensions, Internet and optionally fax and
>>>> other complicated stuff I've switched off.
>>>
>>>> I also have a mobile pre-paid.
>>>
>>>> I want to link/blend/add this mobile to the DOT Business
>>>> Plan but for some reason they won't do it, after spending
>>>> a day on the phone with them.  Why is it so difficult?
>>>
>>> Because Telstra is useless.
>>>
>>> Put the mobile on a $10 a month unlimited calls and texts and
>>> MMSs to any landline or mobile in the country and 4-6 GB of
>>> data on the optarse network.
>>
>> Well, I can't find this.  Exploring the Optus web page(s) is like
>> finding a plot in a phone book.
>
> I was talking about an optus reseller, not optus themselves.
>
> Try Moose. Amaysim can be ok but they charge you the fixed
> fee every 28 days instead of every calendar month which means
> you pay it 13 times a year instead of 12 times a year.

yep. and I had trouble with them so I switched to Aussiebroadband.
texts/mms were not always going thru. it seemed like they were
throttling traffic or something like that. (i'm not technical enuff to
explain it)

>
> The other variable to watch out for is that some are limited time
> wise, like only for the first 6 months etc. I ignore those.
>
> https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Search?calls=-1&sms=-1&customer=Personal&address=Melbourne+VIC&tab=plans&prepaid=1
>

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[Rod Speed]

https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Keep-Number-SIM-FLP
Hit the under $10 button.

[Peter Jason]

* sniff *
I have all the unlimited data I can use at work. Why should I worry
about using the iGizmo and its tiny screen for anything but calls and
for getting into the tax department?

[Rod Speed]

Get covid tested, you bugger.

> I have all the unlimited data I can use at work. Why should
> I worry about using the iGizmo and its tiny screen for anything
> but calls and for getting into the tax department?

Because it can be handy when you aren't at work or home when
you discover that the place you used to visit has moved, or need
to know their opening hours, or find that an operation that you
used to visit has gone broke and need to find a replacement etc.

dodo used to have a $5/month plan with unlimited calls and
texts and MMSs to any landline or mobile in the country and no
data at all, but they don't have it anymore, you left it too late.

[Petzl]

Most stores Wifi is broken/unreliable

Q-Code check-in is was compulsory in NSW for shopping Doctors etc
Weather handy going to rain in 30 minutes
Bus train arrivals handy
My Amaysim (Optus carrier 4G not 5G) is presently $10 (they like me)
every 28days, 4GB data don't use it but don't lose it either.

Years ago OPTUS (OPTUS does have 5G but Amaysim limit it to 4G) in my
area was the best mobile operator for my suburb.
So still seems to work well and is cheaper for me that other options.
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the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,
Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.