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felix

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Sep 4, 2017, 11:15:07 PM9/4/17
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getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a
repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
our internet service is!


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felix

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Sep 4, 2017, 11:21:02 PM9/4/17
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On 5/09/2017 1:15 PM, felix wrote:
>
> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30
> metres from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download!
> (upload was much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to
> install a repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not
> much better- http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png.
> pathetic! (and once again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can
> get the settings off TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than
> 53% of Oz'. what a joke our internet service is!
>
>

sorry, that's wifi speed I'm referring to. (ethernet speed is aroun 17
mbps on the 25 mbps plan)

Rod Speed

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Sep 5, 2017, 1:37:18 AM9/5/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
> from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was much
> faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a repeater.
> however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
> TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
> our internet service is!

That looks like a fixed wireless service.

Rod Speed

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Sep 5, 2017, 1:38:48 AM9/5/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 5/09/2017 1:15 PM, felix wrote:
>>
>> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
>> from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
>> much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a repeater.
>> however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
>> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
>> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
>> TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
>> our internet service is!
>>
>>
>
> sorry, that's wifi speed I'm referring to. (ethernet speed is aroun 17
> mbps on the 25 mbps plan)

Yeah, that’s the steaming turd of a modem that TPG supply.

felix

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Sep 6, 2017, 11:19:52 PM9/6/17
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On 5/09/2017 3:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
> news:f16jgt...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 5/09/2017 1:15 PM, felix wrote:
>>>
>>> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30
>>> metres from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download!
>>> (upload was much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to
>>> install a repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not
>>> much better, just 2.9 mbps download -
>>> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
>>> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings
>>> off TPG and try that MR modem. but note my speed is 'faster than 53%
>>> of Oz'. what a joke our internet service is!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> sorry, that's wifi speed I'm referring to. (ethernet speed is around
>> 17 to  23 mbps on the 25 mbps plan)
>
> Yeah, that’s the steaming turd of a modem that TPG supply.

Hi. I got the following settings from TPG to use the MR modem:

Username: <your TPG username>
Password:  <your TPG Password>
Protocol / Encapsulation / Connection Type: PPPoE (sometimes, you'll
have PPPoE LLC)
Multiplex: LLC
VPI: 8
VCI: 35

I have connected the MR modem to the PC but not the net, and I can't see
where to enter them: http://austek.net/pics/MR_modem_config.PNG

can you please help?

FMurtz

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Sep 7, 2017, 12:59:55 AM9/7/17
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Rod Speed

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Sep 7, 2017, 1:11:36 AM9/7/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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Can you logon on to the router ? Its pretty obvious when you have done
that. You'll find that you only need to set the username and password.

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 2:08:04 AM9/7/17
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yes, I have logged in (as per the photo I supplied above), but I thought
I had to configure the modem with more than just the username and
password (as per the info supplied by TPG above) ?

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 2:08:55 AM9/7/17
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 I had logged in. I need to know how to configure it with the TPG info

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 2:20:46 AM9/7/17
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this is what you had said before.. "You also need to set the connection
mode correctly. PPoE etc. "

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 2:34:58 AM9/7/17
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On 7/09/2017 2:59 PM, FMurtz wrote:
I know you're with MR so you might find this helpful:-  here's a link to
the manual, I just found :
https://www.manualslib.com/download/1265861/Technicolor-Tg789vac-V2.html

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 2:55:43 AM9/7/17
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On 7/09/2017 4:08 PM, felix wrote:
I connected it to the NBN box, but I can't see anywhere to put in a
username and password

Rod Speed

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Sep 7, 2017, 3:06:31 AM9/7/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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Nope. A couple of mates of mine used the MR modem on their
adsl service before it got cutover and that’s all you have to do.

The other stuff TPG gave you is the default setting of those.


Rod Speed

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Sep 7, 2017, 3:16:11 AM9/7/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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Its in the Internet Access box as the manuals tell you.

You do realise that you have to click on the box to see the fields you put
the data into don’t you ?

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 6:48:11 AM9/7/17
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Of course, and I had checked them all. but there's no username/password
field in the Internet Access box, viz:
http://austek.net/pics/MRinternet_access.JPG

all I see is the orange 'connecting' led. you said your mates used this
modem with an ADSL connection, but maybe it won't connect using the NBN?

Rod Speed

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Sep 7, 2017, 12:18:34 PM9/7/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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Read the fucking manual you posted, the bit about username and password.




felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 8:47:11 PM9/7/17
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I had/have, but as I said clicking 'Internet Access' does not bring up a
username/password box. obviously MR have configured this modem specific
to their service. I had also tried resetting it but that didn't change
anything. and according to this link the modem is locked to MR:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2646118

Rod Speed

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Sep 7, 2017, 9:44:03 PM9/7/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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How odd that two of my mates managed it fine,
even if you're too stupid to be able to manage that.

The manual say

Under Internet Access, check the status of your Internet connection.
If it is not connected, click Internet Access, enter the Username and
Password for your Internet connection and then click Save.

> I had also tried resetting it but that didn't change anything. and
> according to this link the modem is locked to MR:
> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2646118

That’s saying that the FIRMWARE is locked, fuckwit.

Both of my mates used theirs on their
dodo service before the cutover to fttn.

felix

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Sep 7, 2017, 10:22:26 PM9/7/17
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it is, but they were on adsl.

> even if you're too stupid to be able to manage that.
>
> The manual say
>
>    Under Internet Access, check the status of your Internet connection.
>    If it is not connected, click Internet Access, enter the Username and
>    Password for your Internet connection and then click Save.

and as I've said, that does not happen. that does not bring up any entry
fields

>
>> I had also tried resetting it but that didn't change anything. and
>> according to this link the modem is locked to MR:
>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2646118
>
> That’s saying that the FIRMWARE is locked, fuckwit.
>
> Both of my mates used theirs on their
> dodo service before the cutover to fttn.


Rod Speed

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Sep 7, 2017, 11:55:51 PM9/7/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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Irrelevant to the fact that they must have been able to enter
the usename and password to have used the modem on dodo.

>> even if you're too stupid to be able to manage that.
>>
>> The manual says
>>
>> Under Internet Access, check the status of your Internet connection.
>> If it is not connected, click Internet Access, enter the Username and
>> Password for your Internet connection and then click Save.

> and as I've said, that does not happen. that does not bring up any entry
> fields

When you click on the blue words Internet Access when you can see the
status after you have clicked on the banner of the card on the main page
labelled Internet Access and have the connection status displayed ?

You sure you are connecting to the TPG service, with the
modem plugged into the correct port on the NBN box ?

If so, try it with the modem not actually connect to anything,
maybe it doesn’t bring that up if you are already connected.

felix

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Sep 8, 2017, 12:59:12 AM9/8/17
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there's nothing to clik on, no 'blue words' viz:
http://austek.net/pics/MRinternet_access.JPG

the modem does not connect to the internet, it just stays on 'connecting'.
I think maybe because it's programmed to only connect to MR, and the
port on the NBN box only goes to TPG?

>
> You sure you are connecting to the TPG service, with the
> modem plugged into the correct port on the NBN box ?

yes, as I just pull the lead from then TPG modem and plug it into the MR
modem

>
> If so, try it with the modem not actually connect to anything,
> maybe it doesn’t bring that up if you are already connected.

had already tried that

>
>>>> I had also tried resetting it but that didn't change anything. and
>>>> according to this link the modem is locked to MR:
>>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2646118
>>>
>>> That’s saying that the FIRMWARE is locked, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Both of my mates used theirs on their
>>> dodo service before the cutover to fttn.
>
>

Sandgroper

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Sep 8, 2017, 1:19:41 AM9/8/17
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On 05-Sep-17 11:15 AM, felix wrote:
>
> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
> from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
> much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a
> repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
> TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
> our internet service is!
>
>
If you using the MR supplied modem , then it comes preconfigured and
you should not have to piss about setting it up , just switch it on and
wait up to 10 minutes to configure itself to the network. , and from
memory , you also don't need a username and password for the NBN and the
connection is done by the modem's MAC.

For your crap download rates , it mostly could be caused by network
congestion and MR not buying enough bandwidth and CVC.

The MR modem have internal antennas , so you are always going to get
crappy wifi , so to get wifi to your shed , you will need to get some
point to point wifi Ubiquiti Air Max dishes to cover the 30 metres distance.

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39467/ubiquiti-airmax-litebeam-ac-gen2





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felix

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Sep 8, 2017, 1:58:23 AM9/8/17
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On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
> On 05-Sep-17 11:15 AM, felix wrote:
>>
>> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
>> from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
>> much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a
>> repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
>> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
>> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
>> TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
>> our internet service is!
>>
>>
> If you using  the MR supplied modem , then it comes preconfigured and
> you should not have to piss about setting it up , just switch it on
> and wait up to 10 minutes to configure itself to the network. ,  and
> from memory , you also don't need a username and password for the NBN
> and the connection is done by the modem's MAC.
>
> For your crap download rates , it mostly could be caused by network
> congestion and MR not buying enough bandwidth and CVC.

I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)

>
> The MR modem have internal antennas , so you are always going to get
> crappy wifi ,

I do get much faster speeds at times

> so to get wifi to your shed , you will need to get some point to point
> wifi Ubiquiti Air Max dishes to cover the 30 metres distance.
>
> https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39467/ubiquiti-airmax-litebeam-ac-gen2
>
>
>

ok, thanks

Sandgroper

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Sep 8, 2017, 2:16:30 AM9/8/17
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On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:

>
> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)

OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
though you were with MR.

At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
you need a TPG voip service.

Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.

What type of NBN connection do you have ?

felix

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Sep 8, 2017, 2:43:19 AM9/8/17
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On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>
>>
>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>
> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
> though you were with MR.
>
> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
> you need a TPG voip service.
>
> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.

I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho

>
> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>
>

FTTP

Rod Speed

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Sep 8, 2017, 2:58:29 AM9/8/17
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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OK, purple, at the top.

> the modem does not connect to the internet, it just stays on 'connecting'.

Because it has already connect at the physical level and is trying to get an
ip.

> I think maybe because it's programmed to only connect to MR,

You're wrong about that, it connected fine to the dodo services.

> and the port on the NBN box only goes to TPG?

>> You sure you are connecting to the TPG service, with the
>> modem plugged into the correct port on the NBN box ?

> yes, as I just pull the lead from then TPG modem and plug it into the MR
> modem

>> If so, try it with the modem not actually connect to anything,
>> maybe it doesn’t bring that up if you are already connected.

> had already tried that

With a power cycling of the modem with it not plugged into anything ?

felix

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Sep 8, 2017, 3:04:41 AM9/8/17
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On 8/09/2017 4:43 PM, felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>
>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>> though you were with MR.
>>
>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as
>> they are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems ,
>> especially if you need a TPG voip service.
>>
>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>
> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho

I see that I have a buy a modem with both of those

FMurtz

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felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 4:43 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>
>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>> though you were with MR.
>>>
>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as
>>> they are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems ,
>>> especially if you need a TPG voip service.
>>>
>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>
>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>
> I see that I have a buy a modem with both of those
>
>>
>>>
>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> FTTP
>>
>>
>
Why not just use MR?

Sandgroper

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Sep 8, 2017, 3:36:10 AM9/8/17
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On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>
>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>> though you were with MR.
>>
>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>
>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>
> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho

With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed
plan be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN
speed of 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.

The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed
of adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>
>>
>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>
>>
>
> FTTP
>
OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.

Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other and have
their own custom firmware installed on it , so it is best to get your
own hardware if possible , Skymesh , ABB allow 3rd party hardware of a
NBN connection.

As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan
tagging , you will need to enable VLan = 2 on the modem .

MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their modem.

felix

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had too much trouble with them before, and had to go to the TIO

felix

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yes, just the PC so I could access the configuration page

>
>>>>>> I had also tried resetting it but that didn't change anything.
>>>>>> and according to this link the modem is locked to MR:
>>>>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2646118
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s saying that the FIRMWARE is locked, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both of my mates used theirs on their
>>>>> dodo service before the cutover to fttn.
>
>

FMurtz

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Sep 8, 2017, 5:27:34 AM9/8/17
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felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 5:07 PM, FMurtz wrote:
>> felix wrote:
>>> On 8/09/2017 4:43 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get
>>>>>> the MR
>>>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their
>>>>>> supplied
>>>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>>>
>>>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>>>> though you were with MR.
>>>>>
>>>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as
>>>>> they are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems ,
>>>>> especially if you need a TPG voip service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>>>
>>>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>>>
>>> I see that I have a buy a modem with both of those
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FTTP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> Why not just use MR?
>
>
> had too much trouble with them before, and had to go to the TIO
>
>
No one I know that uses them has any trouble, in the early days they
were a bit hard to get on the phone but may be we were all patient.The
other day I rang them at two in the morning and got slightly foreign
sounding but well spoken english speaking person based in sydney . who
told me the reason I had no service was that NBN was repairing things

FMurtz

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>the

If you use MR with its modem you will get round 100 down with FTTP for
$60.00 which you will not get with anyone else

Rod Speed

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Sep 8, 2017, 6:00:24 AM9/8/17
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"Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 05-Sep-17 11:15 AM, felix wrote:
>>
>> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
>> from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
>> much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a
>> repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
>> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
>> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
>> TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
>> our internet service is!

> If you using the MR supplied modem , then it comes preconfigured and you
> should not have to piss about setting it up , just switch it on and wait
> up to 10 minutes to configure itself to the network. ,

Doesn’t work with a TPG NBN service.

> and from memory , you also don't need a username and password for the NBN
> and the connection is done by the modem's MAC.

He's actually talking about the router behind the NBN box.

> For your crap download rates , it mostly could be caused by network
> congestion and MR not buying enough bandwidth and CVC.

Nope, its due to the pathetic wifi that you get with the router TPG supplys.

It cant even come close to delivering the 100/40 the service supplys.

> The MR modem have internal antennas , so you are always going to get
> crappy wifi ,

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

It actually does better than my previous Billion 7800NXL
which does have external antennas.

> so to get wifi to your shed , you will need to get some point to point
> wifi Ubiquiti Air Max dishes to cover the 30 metres distance.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

Works fine to my back neighbour who is further away than his shed.


Rod Speed

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"Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>
>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>> though you were with MR.
>>>
>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>
>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>
>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>
> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed plan
> be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN speed of
> 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>
> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed of
> adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>
>>>
>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> FTTP
>>
> OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all you
> need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.

Not with MR, the router only costs you $1

> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other

The one MR supplys isnt.

> and have their own custom firmware installed on it , so it is best to get
> your own hardware if possible ,

Pointless when the supplied router works fine.

> Skymesh , ABB allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.

So does TPG and MR.

> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan
> tagging , you will need to enable VLan = 2 on the modem .

> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their modem.

His problem is that he's so stupid that he can't even manage
to work out how to enter the username and password in the
router that allows you to do that.

Rod Speed

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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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You must be doing something stupid, as usual, because both
of my mates managed to supply the username and password
when they used it on dodo.

Rod Speed

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"FMurtz" <hag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not anymore, its gone up to $70, but you do get unlimited
calls to landlines anywhere in the country included now.

> which you will not get with anyone else

You can get it for $40 with Buzz Telco for 6 months and $60 after that.

Tiny little telco tho, not clear if it will survive for long at those
prices or how much CVC they will be able to buy for that.

felix

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fluked it by mucking around with the settings. I turned off 'auto WAN
sensing' in 'Internet Access' and changed the connection mode to 'PPPoE
routed mode' which made a username/password box appear. put those in and
it connected in a few seconds. ran speetest.net and got 24.29 download
speed, which is the fastest I've ever had and closest to the max 25 mbps
for my plan. tried with wifi and got 9.9 mbps which is good for this
time of night. the mynetfone VOIP works, but the TV won't connect via
LAN (as has been discussed before) only wifi

felix

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cant see anywhere to set that, but the modem is working as is now (see
my other post)

>
> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their
> modem.
>
>

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felix

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yeah, sure thing Rod. rather hard to enter a password when there's
nowhere to enter it, and you didn't know either.

felix

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except I was never using them because after three months they still
hadn't connected me and didn't reply to emails or return calls

> in the early days they were a bit hard to get on the phone but may be
> we were all patient.The other day I rang them at two in the morning
> and got slightly foreign sounding but well spoken english speaking
> person based in sydney . who told me the reason I had no service was
> that NBN was repairing things


felix

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except i'm pretty sure you've talked about losing the internet and
getting low speeds around 5mbps. and have you ever got 100mbps or close
to it?

Rod Speed

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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
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He can't get FTTP there.

FMurtz

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I don't have any where near the problems as I had with telstra,I only
have FTTN which gives me fairly consistent 45 down but you have fibre to
the house which is a different kettle of fish, but it looks like you may
have missed the boat if rod is correct.(I tried to look it up on their
site but they seem to have some specials and different deals on, but TV
is still pushing $59 deal)
But if they have already sent you the modem you may still get the deal
you had.
I have had problems with download speed of usenet headers and posts
which seems better since the NBN mob fiddled that night but may not have
anything to do with it. Do not remember saying anything about 5 down speeds.

FMurtz

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He said he had FTTP.

Rod Speed

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"FMurtz" <hag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was talking about you there, not him.

Sandgroper

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On 08-Sep-17 6:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>
>>> FTTP
>>>
>> OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>
> Not with MR, the router only costs you $1
>
>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other
>
> The one MR supplys isnt.

The MR supplied modem is a Technicolor 789VAC v2 if the OP is using the
latest one.

http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/connected-home/broadband-devices/telco-gateways/tg789vac-v2

>
>> and have their own custom firmware installed on it , so it is best to
>> get your own hardware if possible ,
>
> Pointless when the supplied router works fine.
>
>> Skymesh , ABB allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.
>
> So does TPG and MR.

Yes , the TPG umbrella can allow 3rd party hardware on a NBN connection
, provided you don't need TPG's voip service.

If you need a voip service on TPG or a Internode / iiNet HFC
connection then you are stuck with the TPG supplied modem either the
Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v as the voip service connects
to TPG's Netphone voip/sip server and it uses encrypted credentials to
access the server.

However the point I am making is that a ISP supplied modem is usually
crap and has custom firmware on it and even if you move to another ISP ,
the modem still updates the firmware from the other ISP which can cause
issues.

Even the latest TPG modem the TP-Link VR1600v is somewhat crappy , it is
based on the VR600v modem with AC1600 wifi , the hardware on it is OK ,
but it has internal antennas which can give crappy wifi .

http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/Archer-VR1600v.html

Rod Speed

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"Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 08-Sep-17 6:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>>
>>>> FTTP
>>>>
>>> OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>>
>> Not with MR, the router only costs you $1
>>
>>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other
>>
>> The one MR supplys isnt.
>
> The MR supplied modem is a Technicolor 789VAC v2 if the OP is using the
> latest one.
>
> http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/connected-home/broadband-devices/telco-gateways/tg789vac-v2

Duh.

>>> and have their own custom firmware installed on it , so it is best to
>>> get your own hardware if possible ,
>>
>> Pointless when the supplied router works fine.
>>
>>> Skymesh , ABB allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.
>>
>> So does TPG and MR.
>
> Yes , the TPG umbrella can allow 3rd party hardware on a NBN connection ,
> provided you don't need TPG's voip service.
>
> If you need a voip service on TPG or a Internode / iiNet HFC connection
> then you are stuck with the TPG supplied modem either the Huawei HG659 or
> the newer TP-Link VR1600v as the voip service connects to TPG's Netphone
> voip/sip server and it uses encrypted credentials to access the server.
>
> However the point I am making is that a ISP supplied modem is usually crap
> and has custom firmware on it and even if you move to another ISP , the
> modem still updates the firmware from the other ISP which can cause
> issues.
>
> Even the latest TPG modem the TP-Link VR1600v is somewhat crappy , it is
> based on the VR600v modem with AC1600 wifi , the hardware on it is OK ,
> but it has internal antennas which can give crappy wifi .

And the one MR supplys is fine wifi wise.

> http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/Archer-VR1600v.html


keithr0

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On 9/8/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>
>>
>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>
> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
> though you were with MR.
>
> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
> you need a TPG voip service.

The modem that TPG supplied me certainly isn't the best but it is not in
the least locked down. The main problem in replacing it is finding a
good VDSL modem with VOIP support, although that can be added externally.

keithr0

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On 9/8/2017 5:04 PM, felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 4:43 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>
>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>> though you were with MR.
>>>
>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as
>>> they are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems ,
>>> especially if you need a TPG voip service.
>>>
>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>
>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>
> I see that I have a buy a modem with both of those
>
>>
>>>
>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> FTTP

If you have FTTP, you only need a router not a modem, there are dozens
of routers available that would meet your needs.

felix

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yep, I have mynetfone voip thru TPG NBN

Sandgroper

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It depends on whether you use voip or not.

These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service ,
the Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the
TP-Link VR1600v.

The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip server
is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people who have
tried using workarounds to get the voip service working on 3rd party
hardware and can't , especially on a HFC connection with TPG ,
Internode and iiNet.

If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet ,
it is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if you
get a HFC connection with Internode or iiNet and you need a voip
service , then you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses
encrypted username and passwords and you will be forced to use the
crappy Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v.

Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically
updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the same
modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.

Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are
configured for remote access which means that there is always a open
port for access , which is a security risk.

Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router
as they are crap modem with crap wifi.

The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there is when they
move to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP
they get the older Telstra TG-789VAC off eBay or Gumtree for less than
$50 and bridge it to a router.



--

Rod Speed

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"Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
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Bullshit.

> Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are configured
> for remote access which means that there is always a open port for access
> , which is a security risk.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself can turn that off.

> Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router as
> they are crap modem with crap wifi.

The one MR supplies isnt.

> The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there is when they move
> to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP they get
> the older Telstra TG-789VAC off eBay or Gumtree for less than $50 and
> bridge it to a router.

Fuck all do that.

Sandgroper

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On 10-Sep-17 5:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> It depends on whether you use voip or not.
>>
>> These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service ,
>> the Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the
>> TP-Link VR1600v.
>>
>> The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip
>> server is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people
>> who have tried using workarounds to get the voip service working on
>> 3rd party hardware and can't , especially on a HFC connection with
>> TPG , Internode and iiNet.
>>
>> If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet
>> , it is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if
>> you get a HFC connection with Internode or iiNet and you need a voip
>> service , then you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses
>> encrypted username and passwords and you will be forced to use the
>> crappy Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v.
>>
>> Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically
>> updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the
>> same modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.
>
> Bullshit.

Block the open port , then you block the firmware updates

It is true , the ISP supplied modem does update the firmware from the
original ISP , you are too stupid to realise that.

>> Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are
>> configured for remote access which means that there is always a open
>> port for access , which is a security risk.
>
> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself can turn that off.
>
>> Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router
>> as they are crap modem with crap wifi.
>
> The one MR supplies isnt.

Most of the ISP supplied modems use N300 wifi and are the cheap crappy
modems , it is only just recently that some ISP are introducing AC1600
wifi modems.

Skymesh use a D-Link Talkbox 2800 , while the hardware specs are good
and using the new Triductor chipset , the firmware on it is a bit crappy
and people have had issues with them.

The iiNet / Internode TG-789 has good hardware specs , but the wifi on
it is patchy at times as it has internal antennas .

TPG use the crappy POS the Huawei HG659 modem that is not even worth
switching on , let alone paying for the frigging thing.

The newer TP-Link VR1600v is actually a VR600v , but it has internal
antennas on it and while some people say the wifi is good , it is yet to
be determined by general usage if the wifi is OK.

So basically most ISP supplied modems are mostly a bit crappy , the only
good thing about them is that they are sold to the customer at a reduce
rate.

>
>> The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there is when they
>> move to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP
>> they get the older Telstra TG-789VAC off eBay or Gumtree for less
>> than $50 and bridge it to a router.
>
> Fuck all do that

Just telling people of what is the current trend with the NBN , which a
old dinosaur like you may not know about or understand.

Rod Speed

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"Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 10-Sep-17 5:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Sandgroper" <woodb...@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> It depends on whether you use voip or not.
>>>
>>> These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service ,
>>> the Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the
>>> TP-Link VR1600v.
>>>
>>> The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip
>>> server is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people
>>> who have tried using workarounds to get the voip service working on
>>> 3rd party hardware and can't , especially on a HFC connection with
>>> TPG , Internode and iiNet.
>>>
>>> If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet
>>> , it is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if
>>> you get a HFC connection with Internode or iiNet and you need a voip
>>> service , then you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses
>>> encrypted username and passwords and you will be forced to use the
>>> crappy Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v.
>>>
>>> Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically
>>> updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the
>>> same modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.
>>
>> Bullshit.

> It is true , the ISP supplied modem does update the firmware from the
> original ISP

I was commenting on your stupid pig ignorant ANY claim.

Most obviously with the smallest ISPs.

>>> Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are
>>> configured for remote access which means that there is always a open
>>> port for access , which is a security risk.
>>
>> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself can turn that off.
>>
>>> Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router
>>> as they are crap modem with crap wifi.
>>
>> The one MR supplies isnt.
>
> Most of the ISP supplied modems use N300 wifi and are the cheap crappy
> modems , it is only just recently that some ISP are introducing AC1600
> wifi modems.

So what you said is more mindless silly shit.

>>> The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there is when they
>>> move to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP
>>> they get the older Telstra TG-789VAC off eBay or Gumtree for less
>>> than $50 and bridge it to a router.
>>
>> Fuck all do that

> Just telling people of what is the current trend with the NBN ,

Pigs arse it’s the current trend.


Jeßus

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On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 13:15:13 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

>getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
>from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
>much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a
>repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
>http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
>again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
>TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
>our internet service is!

Here's the result from my free hotel wifi in rural Thailand:
PING 14ms DOWNLOAD 15.92Mbps UPLOAD12.84Mbps (Ookla)
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