8.5 Gig DVD vs 4.7 Gig DVD

[T.T]

A neighbour has a movie on her HDD and wants to make a DVD of it.
The computer is XT and has a DVD drive of that age.
She has had success burning two-hour movies to 4.8 Gig DVDs but this movie
is two hours nineteen minutes long.
She has been told that all she has to do is buy 8.5 Gig DVDs
Is it likely that her aged DVD-drive will handle these higher capacity
disks?
They are "double-sided" I believe, and I imagine they need a more
sophisticated
piece of hardware than she is currently using.
All comments appreciated.

[Rod Speed]

"T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> A neighbour has a movie on her HDD and wants to make a DVD of it.
> The computer is XT and has a DVD drive of that age.
> She has had success burning two-hour movies to 4.8 Gig DVDs but this movie
> is two hours nineteen minutes long.
> She has been told that all she has to do is buy 8.5 Gig DVDs
> Is it likely that her aged DVD-drive will handle these higher capacity
> disks?

Impossible to say when you don�t say anything about it.

> They are "double-sided" I believe,

Dual layer, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#Capacity

> and I imagine they need a more sophisticated piece of hardware

Than the most basic DVD burner, sure.

> than she is currently using.

Impossible to say when you don�t say anything about it.

> All comments appreciated.

Even comments that tell you to shove you head up a dead bear's arse ?

Funky.

[Bob Milutinovic]

"T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>A neighbour has a movie on her HDD and wants to make a DVD of it.
> The computer is XT and has a DVD drive of that age.

I'm assuming you mean it has Windows XP installed. The IBM PC/XT was around
_many_ years before even CD drives were developed, so there'd be Buckley's
chances of it ever supporting a DVD drive.

> She has had success burning two-hour movies to 4.8 Gig DVDs but this movie
> is two hours nineteen minutes long.
> She has been told that all she has to do is buy 8.5 Gig DVDs
> Is it likely that her aged DVD-drive will handle these higher capacity
> disks?
> They are "double-sided" I believe, and I imagine they need a more
> sophisticated
> piece of hardware than she is currently using.
> All comments appreciated.

They'd be dual-layer, not double-sided. Double-sided, so-called "flippy"
discs, were only ever manufactured in factory presses and to the best of my
knowledge there's never been a writable "flippy" disc ever made.

Windows XP is far from aged; most of my workstations still use it with great
success, with current hardware. As long as she has decent recording software
(i.e., not any crap which may have come with the computer or [shudder]
Windows Media Player), she'll have no issues recording DL discs.

If you tweak compression settings appropriately (and have decent recording
software), you'll have no problems recording eight hours onto a single-layer
DVD, but obviously quality will suffer. What is the source of this movie
anyway? And why doesn't she have a DVD player which can play AVI files
directly (they're worth a fortune at roughly $39 from any shop - even
Coles)?

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Petzl]

Face up to make it an AVI and split it into two parts
I use Audiles Turnebite to convert
http://audials.com/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=12227
Then this to split
http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

[T.T]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Thank you for your reply.
The computer is running under Windows XP, of course. I will find out more
about the hardware tomorrow and run a Belarc analysis.
I am glad that it is not a double-sided DVD. I found it hard to believe when
the Dick Smith lad said it was but didn't have any basis
with which to argue.
The movie was given to her on a USB memory stick. I don't know if it is a
pirated blockbuster or a compilation of her grandchildren's exploits.
Funny that I inadvertently typed "XT" instead of "XP". I had a fair bit of
experience trying to get useful work out of the XT series, in another life.
We all stood around in slack-jawed wonder when it was superseded and
marvelled at the speed of the 386-based replacement. Was it the "AT"?
.

[SG1]

"T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message

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The AT was 286 based

[Gettamulla Tupya]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:10:20 +1100, "Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They'd be dual-layer, not double-sided. Double-sided, so-called "flippy"

Flipper!!!!!!!

[SG1]

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And they ate fish & swam well too.....


>

[Bob Milutinovic]

"SG1" <lo...@the.races.com> wrote in message
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They're actually very easy to cut with scissors too; a quick 'n' cheap way
to make sparkly Christmas tree decorations from all those old backup discs
which're no longer needed ;-)

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Gettamulla Tupya" <gettamu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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My mistake; "flippy discs" were 5.25" floppies butchered so you could use
both sides. Back in the day when they were $16 each - storing a whopping
80Kb per side in single-density mode - it was worth your while to make it
double-sided!

"Flippers" was the common colloquial term given to the dastardly "built-in
intermission" DVDs. Some of them managed to pull it off reasonably, with the
break being between two separate scenes - but some were brutally cut at
precisely the data cut-off point, usually mid-way through an action sequence
or important dialogue.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Bob Milutinovic]

"T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message

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Once upon a time, you'd have expected DSE staff to be knowledgable
enthusiasts; these days unfortunately they're "the kids with too many zits
to work at Woolies, but too few zits to work at McChuck's" - absolutely no
requirement for technical knowledge whatsoever.

> The movie was given to her on a USB memory stick. I don't know if it is a
> pirated blockbuster or a compilation of her grandchildren's exploits.

I wasn't questioning the legality of the video, but rather the format. If
it's an AVI file with a common CODEC (DivX, XViD or h264) and she has a
reasonably new (i.e., less than a decade old) DVD player, she should be able
to simply dump the file onto the DVD in data mode and the DVD player will
pick it up.

Indeed, if she has a reasonably new TV, it'll quite likely have a USB port
into which she can simply plug the flash drive and forego all the other
effort.

> Funny that I inadvertently typed "XT" instead of "XP". I had a fair bit of
> experience trying to get useful work out of the XT series, in another
> life.
> We all stood around in slack-jawed wonder when it was superseded and
> marvelled at the speed of the 386-based replacement. Was it the "AT"?

Those were the days... When you could kill someone by hitting them over the
head with the heavy steel keyboard...

PC - 8088 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC
PC/XT - 8088 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_XT
PC/AT - 80286 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC/AT

Everything after that was in the PS/2 realm.

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Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Clocky]

Bob Milutinovic wrote:
> "T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:bQYQs.3501$Ow3...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
>> A neighbour has a movie on her HDD and wants to make a DVD of it.
>> The computer is XT and has a DVD drive of that age.
>
> I'm assuming you mean it has Windows XP installed. The IBM PC/XT was
> around _many_ years before even CD drives were developed,

1 year actually. The first CD-ROM was developed in 1984 and came out either
in 1984 or 1985, and the PC/XT was manufactured from 1983 to 1987.

Hope this helps.

[nom...@hotmail.com]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:49:19 +1100, "T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

Try it and see. If it doesn't work all you have lost is a dollar
or two on a blank disk.

Pete

[Rob]

Then again if you look up the specs for the drive it will say if it is
compatible to burn a DL DVD.

[Damian]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:bQYQs.3501$Ow3...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
>>A neighbour has a movie on her HDD and wants to make a DVD of it.
>> The computer is XT and has a DVD drive of that age.
>
> I'm assuming you mean it has Windows XP installed. The IBM PC/XT was
> around _many_ years before even CD drives were developed, so there'd be
> Buckley's chances of it ever supporting a DVD drive.
>
>> She has had success burning two-hour movies to 4.8 Gig DVDs but this
>> movie
>> is two hours nineteen minutes long.
>> She has been told that all she has to do is buy 8.5 Gig DVDs
>> Is it likely that her aged DVD-drive will handle these higher capacity
>> disks?
>> They are "double-sided" I believe, and I imagine they need a more
>> sophisticated
>> piece of hardware than she is currently using.
>> All comments appreciated.
>
> They'd be dual-layer, not double-sided. Double-sided, so-called "flippy"
> discs, were only ever manufactured in factory presses and to the best of
> my knowledge there's never been a writable "flippy" disc ever made.

I have seen them. can't remember where though.

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Damian" <damian_a...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kf28cd$3b3$1...@dont-email.me...
>> "T.T" <ton...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:bQYQs.3501$Ow3...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
>>>A neighbour has a movie on her HDD and wants to make a DVD of it.
>>> The computer is XT and has a DVD drive of that age.
>>
>> I'm assuming you mean it has Windows XP installed. The IBM PC/XT was
>> around _many_ years before even CD drives were developed, so there'd be
>> Buckley's chances of it ever supporting a DVD drive.
>>
>>> She has had success burning two-hour movies to 4.8 Gig DVDs but this
>>> movie
>>> is two hours nineteen minutes long.
>>> She has been told that all she has to do is buy 8.5 Gig DVDs
>>> Is it likely that her aged DVD-drive will handle these higher capacity
>>> disks?
>>> They are "double-sided" I believe, and I imagine they need a more
>>> sophisticated
>>> piece of hardware than she is currently using.
>>> All comments appreciated.
>>
>> They'd be dual-layer, not double-sided. Double-sided, so-called "flippy"
>> discs, were only ever manufactured in factory presses and to the best of
>> my knowledge there's never been a writable "flippy" disc ever made.
>
> I have seen them. can't remember where though.

Are you sure it's not a WORM disc you're thinking of? They each came in
their own protective cartridge (from which they couldn't be removed) and
could be flipped over to use the other side -
http://www.ieei.com/item6.shtml

Technically, CDRs and DVDRs are "WORM" (Write Once, Read Many times) discs,
but the ones I refer to above were the only ones actually marketed as
"WORM."

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[T.T]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Thank you all for your comments.
The guy from Dick Smith has told her categorically that her computer (which
they sold her) won't write
an 8Gig DVD.
She has tried to watch the movie on her computer after copying it from its
USB stick
to her HDD. It worked O.K. but the picture was very small and the sound was
inaudible.
Her daughter has a USB socket on her fairly new T.V. and assures her that
the movie
will display in all its glory directly from the USB memory stick and all
will be well.

[Petzl]

Any chance of naming the TV. mine will play USB in FAT format only
(means file sizes over 2GB are U/S for file sizes over 2GB you need
NFTS format).
Just interested in this area sales people not that helpful
My BluRay plays FAT formated USB's full screen but TV alone won't

[David]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
Now I remember, I saw them ages ago in a swapmeet and bought a one too. I
never used it. I thought it's no use since I prefer to print on the top of
the DVD rather than using a jewel case. I may still have it among my junk.
They were around for a short time when 4.7 Gig single layer writeable discs
came out. But, faded away quicly as they were not practical and also dual
layers came out very quickly soon after that.

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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[Damian]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Nope. the ones I remember, did say double sided on the case. I may have seen
them either at JB hifi or online. Hard to prove, since I don't have any.
Nice to know about word discs tho.
Attractive price tag! :))

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Clocky <not...@happen.com> wrote:

> Bob Milutinovic wrote:

<snip>

> > I'm assuming you mean it has Windows XP installed. The IBM PC/XT was
> > around _many_ years before even CD drives were developed,
>
> 1 year actually. The first CD-ROM was developed in 1984 and came out either
> in 1984 or 1985, and the PC/XT was manufactured from 1983 to 1987.

My IBM XT 286 has a CD ROM drive.

With the 16-bit ISA Bus I doubt you will find a controller for a DVD
drive.


--
Not him on Facebook

[Rob]

Well get an external USB DVD drive $30

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Good one! An ISA card with USB.

[Rob]

A new PC might be in order as well then

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Rob" <mesamine...@google.com> wrote in message
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Even if an ISA USB card was available, it wouldn't be able to keep up,
according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths -

USB 2.0 (required for DVD streaming and writing) = 480Mbps
16-bit ISA = 266.56Mbps

> A new PC might be in order as well then

It'd probably turn out to be about the same price; assuming an ISA USB card
was available, it'd probably be in the order of $200, which is roughly what
you'd expect to pay for a bare-bones PC box these days.

Of course, I highly doubt Axel is actually using his XT/286 for anything
other than as a museum piece - especially seeing as he's posting from a Mac
running OS X.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Rob]

That's why I made the remark in the first instance. I can't imagine
burning a CD on that machine, I know back then the number of times I had
failures even burning at 1x. More than likely its maxed out at 1Gb of ram.

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Rob" <mesamine...@google.com> wrote in message

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I remember those times too; had a HP double-speed IDE unit (which I never
dared tried to use at double speed), and managed to get a 50% success rate
at recording CDs - and that was on a 386DX/33. Windows for Workgroups 3.11,
and a "whopping" 256Mb RAM. Had to shut _all_ tasks down, make sure the
screen saver wasn't active, then walk away from the machine once I started
recording, lest I look at it the wrong way and cause it to fail.

Blank CDs were $15.99 each when purchased five at a time or $19.99 each if
purchased singularly. I used to have nightmares about "buffer underrun"
errors, especially during the last 1% of the writing phase.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Bob Milutinovic <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Of course, I highly doubt Axel is actually using his XT/286 for anything
> other than as a museum piece - especially seeing as he's posting from a Mac
> running OS X.

Now look what u've done!

<http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/hlexa/74154780?i=65523063>

It hasn't been used for about 10 - 15 years. I unpack and set the system
up. Flicked the red power switch - PC beeps twice. But nothing on the
display.

Smoke from somewhere! Sharp smell!

Flick the wall switch. Smoke continues.

Unplug the cable and carry the display out into the car port. Pew! Had
to have all doors and windows open for 1/2 hour.

Brrr! It's winter here:

<http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/hlexa/74154780?i=65523123>

The wife was pleased. She's been at me for years to drive the old XT to
the recycling center. She drove my 20 year old 15" Sony Trinitron
display to the recycling center last year. The colours were not too
good.

But I still had my Apple 15" Multiple Scan display :-)

<http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/hlexa/74154780?i=65523161>

Also have an 8-bit ISA hybrid (EGA/VGA) Video Seven VEGA card. And the
manual.

The manual! Probably authered in Chinese and translated into
English/American with Babel Fish. Took me a day to figure out how to set
the jumpers and DIP switches.

DIP switches: Damned Inaccessible Plastic switches!

Of course the back up battery was flat and a new 6V DL223A battery has
been ordered.

Other to does:

Boot off 5 1/4" floppy (still works!). Run IBM Diagnostics, setup time
etc.

Conner CP3044, Disk Type, 1 - 47?

Intel 8/16 Eherexpress Pro 10 LAN Adapter. The Crynwr packet driver will
give me TCP/IP.

Software. DOS 5 and a Usenet News Reader.

We'll be back!

And rummaging through the old stuff I found a NEC 16-bit AT SCSI
Interface card. That's what I used with the CD drive. But I doubt it's
fast enough for watching DVDs.

The wife's not to pleased ;-)

BTW. Look carefully at the first picture. Download and open in graphic
program, zoom in to the middle of the lower edge of the CRT, on the
ledge. Turn up your screen brightness. You will notice a a smudge. I
noticed it when I unpacked the system. I think it's joint filler, from
where the CRT punktured.

[SG1]

"Axel Hammerschmidt" <hl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Specs for your HD
http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0036.htm

[Clocky]

Burn proof et al fixed that.

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

SG1 <los...@the.races.com> wrote:

> "Axel Hammerschmidt" <hl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ky90qj.739lslpryyjmN%hl...@hotmail.com...

<snip>

> > Other to does:
> >
> > Boot off 5 1/4" floppy (still works!). Run IBM Diagnostics, setup time
> > etc.
> >
> > Conner CP3044, Disk Type, 1 - 47?
>
> Specs for your HD
> http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0036.htm

Thanks!

No need though - IDE controller :-)

Drive type 17. I had an old reserve backup battery that seems to work.
Still, I've ordered a new one.

The XT286 is up and running, with 650 KB RAM. Keep getting a memory
fault when I install the AST Rampage 286 memory expansion board (1024
KB). Worked before.

Oh well! Like Bill Gates is supposed to have said: 640 KB ought to be
enough for anybody.

Got tcp/ip up and running with my Olivetti M211V using the Crynwr packet
driver and Trumpet (2.01, ntcpdrv.exe).

Ftp on LAN works. Need a News reader.

The M211V's (1989) configuration is almost identical to the XT286. Even
though it's a portable (7,5 KG!), it has a 16-bit 1/2 size slot for my
(other) Intel Etherexpress Pro LAN adapter.

<http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/hlexa/74154780?i=65654175>

Handy when debugging.

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Axel Hammerschmidt" <hl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> SG1 <los...@the.races.com> wrote:
>
>> "Axel Hammerschmidt" <hl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1ky90qj.739lslpryyjmN%hl...@hotmail.com...
>
> <snip>
>
>> > Other to does:
>> >
>> > Boot off 5 1/4" floppy (still works!). Run IBM Diagnostics, setup time
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > Conner CP3044, Disk Type, 1 - 47?
>>
>> Specs for your HD
>> http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0036.htm
>
> Thanks!
>
> No need though - IDE controller :-)

Awww, you mean no need for DEBUG, "g=c800:5" and the rest?

> Drive type 17. I had an old reserve backup battery that seems to work.
> Still, I've ordered a new one.
>
> The XT286 is up and running, with 650 KB RAM. Keep getting a memory
> fault when I install the AST Rampage 286 memory expansion board (1024
> KB). Worked before.

RAM has a habit of dying with time, especially when it hasn't been used for
a while. Not actually dying, but getting so slow that it can't keep up with
the speed of the originally-intended application.

I'd offer you a Tseng Labs ET4000 which I have buried somewhere in the back
shed, but I suspect it'll likely be in even worse shape than your AST card.

All I can say is, you're either a masochist or have far too much time on
your hands (or both)!

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Bob Milutinovic:

<snip>

> I'd offer you a Tseng Labs ET4000 which I have buried somewhere in the
> back shed, but I suspect it'll likely be in even worse shape than your
> AST card.

Thanks.

But probably won't work in an AT system. I tried an ET4000 based video
card (VIEWTOP BL-ET 4, VESA Local Bus). No go.

The 8-bit Video 7 VEGA VGA card works fine i slot No. 1.

> All I can say is, you're either a masochist or have far too much time
> on your hands (or both)!

Ha. Ha. Good one! I wish you could read Danish. Or I could give you a
link, that you could use with Google Translate.

This weeks Danish weekly, Weekendavisen (not online) has an article by
Soren K Villemoes: The State's Green Soul.

The present Center-Left-Green majority in Denmark has allocated 16
million (Danish) Kroner to "locally based green enthusiasts" who want to
start firms on a commercial basis, that recycle and leas prams, bicycles,
lawnmowers, carsharing etc etc.

I had tears in my eyes, after reading what these "green" politicians hope
to accomplish, in the way of commercial growth - from laughing.


--
Oops!... I did it again

[SG1]

"Axel Hammerschmidt" <hl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Bob Milutinovic:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I'd offer you a Tseng Labs ET4000 which I have buried somewhere in the
>> back shed, but I suspect it'll likely be in even worse shape than your
>> AST card.
>
> Thanks.
>
> But probably won't work in an AT system. I tried an ET4000 based video
> card (VIEWTOP BL-ET 4, VESA Local Bus). No go.
>
> The 8-bit Video 7 VEGA VGA card works fine i slot No. 1.

I had one of those, cost a fortune back in the 90s. But worked wonderfully.

[Swampfox]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in

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You may need to refresh your memory.
The first 386 I had came with 2Mb of RAM, I later upgraded it to 8Mb at
a cost of about $60 per Mb, 16Mb was considered luxurious back then.
256Mb of RAM in the days of the 386 would have cost you as much as a
medium sized car.
My first CD writer was a Panasonic SCSI 4x, the first PC I tried it in
(P1-166Mhz) couldn't cope so I had to upgrade the PC to a blazingly fast
PII 300, the burner cost $650.
The cheapest discs in those days were Princo at about $3 each, they
lasted about 12 months and were then unreadable.

>Had to shut _all_
> tasks down, make sure the screen saver wasn't active, then walk away
> from the machine once I started recording, lest I look at it the wrong
> way and cause it to fail.
>
> Blank CDs were $15.99 each when purchased five at a time or $19.99
> each if purchased singularly. I used to have nightmares about "buffer
> underrun" errors, especially during the last 1% of the writing phase.

A fella I knew had three burners running 24/7 pumping out pirated
software at $50 for a CD full.
MS Word, Windows, Corell Draw, Norton Commander etc., plus some games
and stuff, he made a lot of cash.

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Swampfox" <Noi...@whocares.org> wrote in message
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You're quite right; I had 4Mb of RAM in the machine, which on reflection was
the maximum it could take - four SIMMs of a maximum of 1Mb each.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Clocky]

A 386DX was a 32 bit system and could almost certainly take at least 4x4Mb
SIMMs. Some could take 8 Mb or more SIMMs as well. I had one such 386DX40,
with 32 MB (4x8Mb SIMMs).

In theory the 386DX can address 4GB of RAM.

Ran Windows 95 very well indeed.

386SX's could only address 16MB due to the 16 bit data bus but a lot of
boards wouldn't accommodate even that much.

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Clocky" <not...@happen.com> wrote in message
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I've no doubt there were Compaq servers at the time which had the capacity
to be populated with the full 4Gb, but my motherboard wouldn't recognise
anything larger than 1Mb. It wasn't until I went to a 486DX2/66 that I put
in more memory; 16Mb to start with, I think, but eventually went to 256Mb
(which is the reason the above furphy appeared).

> Ran Windows 95 very well indeed.
>
> 386SX's could only address 16MB due to the 16 bit data bus but a lot of
> boards wouldn't accommodate even that much.

I had a 386SX for all of about two weeks; performance-wise it was a giant
step backwards from the 286 system I had before it. Whether that was due to
the particular motherboard I had or the fact that I had a relatively
high-end 286, I don't know - but I took it back for a 386DX quite quickly.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

[Rob]

There were a heap of comparability problems back then! Think I went
from a 286 and jumped to a 486 with 4 x 1mb ram - what a leap forward :)

[Buzz^|]

Yep I only had 4mb but my brother was doing uni and conned mum into 16
and it cost a fortune (485 DX 40). Scsi was the way to go and a 2X
burner was fairly safe. The ram was later used in on an IO card and then
an AWE 32 so it did last a long time.

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[Damian]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hey Bob, you could do a good job as a museum curator. Consider quiting the
IT industry and getting into a computer museum. ;-)