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Trevor Wilson
Jan 2, 2024, 4:50:36 AM1/2/24
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I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
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code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
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Mighty Mouse
Jan 2, 2024, 5:09:34 AM1/2/24
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
> Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
> Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
> Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
> driven to take his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
>
yes a terrible loss. he was forced to endure chemical castration, iirc
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
> Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
> Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
> Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
> driven to take his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
>
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Rod Speed
Jan 2, 2024, 11:38:01 AM1/2/24
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Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
That last never happened.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
Just because he had a high IQ doesnt mean that he would have
contributed anything useful in that time.
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
contributed anything useful in that time.
Peter Jason
Jan 2, 2024, 3:31:17 PM1/2/24
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Computer Nerd Kev
Jan 2, 2024, 4:06:15 PM1/2/24
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Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>
>> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
>> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
>> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
>> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
>> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
>> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
>> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
>> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
>
> That last never happened.
Not immediately at the end of the war, but they did later while the
> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>
>> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
>> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
>> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
>> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
>> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
>> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
>> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
>> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
>
> That last never happened.
project was still secret. Replica machines were later built. It was
a loss to history, but not to computer development.
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Rod Speed
Jan 2, 2024, 5:50:24 PM1/2/24
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Computer Nerd Kev <n...@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> project was still secret.
It was never destroyed in the sense of keeping
the technology secret forever, it was actually
just replaced with better technology.
> Replica machines were later built. It was a loss to history,
Only in the sense of no longer being a working machine.
The maintenance effort required was just too much effort.
> but not to computer development.
It was irrelevant to computer development.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
>>> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
>>> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
>>> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
>>> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
>>> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>>> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer andhis thinking,
>> Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
>>> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
>>> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
>>> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
>>> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
>>> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>>> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
>> That last never happened.
> Not immediately at the end of the war, but theydid later while the
>> That last never happened.
> project was still secret.
It was never destroyed in the sense of keeping
the technology secret forever, it was actually
just replaced with better technology.
> Replica machines were later built. It was a loss to history,
The maintenance effort required was just too much effort.
> but not to computer development.
keithr0
Jan 4, 2024, 4:47:29 AM1/4/24
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On 2/01/2024 7:50 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
>
If you're really interested in the subject, try reading "Alan Turing:
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
>
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.
Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
Trevor Wilson
Jan 4, 2024, 3:52:38 PM1/4/24
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sound like a tough read.
Petzl
Jan 4, 2024, 5:51:22 PM1/4/24
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"The Imitation Game"
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Arthur (Arthur Stace, Sydney (Eternity graffitist)
described in his own words what he had become
"a petty criminal, a bum and a metho drinker"
He deteriorated so bad and so low that
he went from beer to wine to plonk (i.e. bad wine) to plink
(i.e. bad plonk ).
https://youtu.be/uzYrQrGEwRg?feature=shared
Mighty Mouse
Jan 4, 2024, 7:18:06 PM1/4/24
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keithr0
Jan 5, 2024, 4:23:16 AM1/5/24
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Petzl
Jan 5, 2024, 4:39:50 PM1/5/24
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:23:14 +1000, keithr0 <us...@account.invalid>
wrote:
Well if you wish to see it YouTube rents it for $2.99 for 24 hours.
My eyesight is pretty well shot, so good movies make good
entertainment.
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wrote:
My eyesight is pretty well shot, so good movies make good
entertainment.
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Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge
justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
High Court reveals every current judge is a
member of Qantas’ ‘most exclusive club in Australia’
The High Court has exposed secret members of Qantas’
exclusive Chairman’s Lounge amid a landmark case over
the sacking of 1700 workers.
Ozix
Jan 6, 2024, 5:54:13 AM1/6/24
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
>
Interesting SBS just showed another movie called Enigma, set a year
> I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
> code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
> stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
> A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
> was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
> his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:
>
> * The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
> rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
> * Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
>
later in the war when the German navy starting using more secure Enigma
machines.
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