Samsung hard drive - bad news, good news
Trevor Wilson
Samsung, but it's the first one which exhibited a problem. I was unable to
format the drive to full capacity. I called Samsung. They provided me with
return authorisation and I sent it off. Within 48 hours, I had a brand new
drive, which I duly installed and got working perfectly.
Thanks Samsung. Excellent service.
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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
son of a bitch
I had new sam notebook drive, could not format any partition bigger than
10 meg from the first power up. Prior to this, never had a faulty new
sam-anything before. Surprise, it was made in china. It's pretty bad
when even Taiwan has to make them in china to make a buck.
Swampfox
"son of a bitch" <bitchi...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Don't want to be picky, but Samsung is Korean.
By the sounds of it the drives could be generic drives
rebadged as Samsung, and Maxtor, and who knows what
else.
A few years back the Sony optical drives were rebadged
Lite Ons and a lot of the current Samsung RAM and
flash drives are rebadged to other manufacturers.
You never know what you're buying.
son of a bitch
korea, taiwan same difference
who would have thought years ago you'd be saying, gawd
I wish it WAS made in Korea OR Taiwan
Swampfox
As long as it's not a car, Korean cars are trash.
Rod Speed
Wrong, as always.
Trevor Wilson
**Samsung is a Korean company. All my Samsung drives are manufactured in
Korea.
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Trevor Wilson
"Swampfox" <noi...@whocares.com> wrote in message
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**I suggest you speak to an owner of a Hyundai I-30, or even a Getz
sometime. Both cars represent stunning value and excellent reliability in
their respective price ranges.
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Trevor Wilson
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>
** http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/13105544635.jpg
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son of a bitch
The Samsung I bought ~2-3 months ago was made in china
Rod Speed
The one I bought more recently than that wasnt. 1TB
Swampfox
"Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
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Hyundais are the possible exception, cheap and
reliable even if they're unsafe.
On the other hand KIA's and the ill fated Daewoo's are
and were junk.
Swampfox
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That's rich coming from you.
Rob
All my four loose sata drives are made in Korea. one IDE Korean, that
makes the internal drives highly likely to be Korean as well.
Trevor Wilson
**The Hyundai I-30 has an ANCAP 5 star rating.
http://www.ancap.com.au/results/
> On the other hand KIA's and the ill fated Daewoo's are and were junk.
**Perhaps. I will remind you that you claimed ALL Korean cars were crap. I
can assure you that the recent Hyundai models are excellent products.
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Rod Speed
> Rod Speed wrote
>> son of a bitch wrote
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>>> son of a bitch <bitchi...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> I purchased a Samsung 1TB hard drive a few weeks back. It's not
>>>>>> my first Samsung, but it's the first one which exhibited a
>>>>>> problem. I was unable to format the drive to full capacity. I
>>>>>> called Samsung. They provided me with return authorisation and I
>>>>>> sent it off. Within 48 hours, I had a brand new drive, which I
>>>>>> duly installed and got working perfectly. Thanks Samsung.
>>>>>> Excellent service.
>>>>> I had new sam notebook drive, could not format any partition
>>>>> bigger than 10 meg from the first power up. Prior to this, never
>>>>> had a faulty new sam-anything before. Surprise, it was made in
>>>>> china. It's pretty bad when even Taiwan has to make them in china
>>>>> to make a buck.
>>>> Samsung is a Korean company. All my Samsung drives are manufactured in Korea.
>>> The Samsung I bought ~2-3 months ago was made in china
>> The one I bought more recently than that wasnt. 1TB
> All my four loose sata drives are made in Korea.
Mine too, same numbers.
> one IDE Korean,
I've got 3, all Korean.
> that makes the internal drives highly likely to be Korean as well.
Mine all are, thats one of the database fields.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Swampfuckit wrote>>>> Swampfuckit wrote>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
Rod Speed
> Trevor Wilson tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au wrote
>> Swampfuckit <noi...@whocares.com> wrote>>>> Swampfuckit wrote>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> Hyundais are the possible exception, cheap and reliable even if they're unsafe.
Pigs arse they are unsafe.
Swampfox
I value the opinion of my local mechanic.
When I asked him what to buy my daughter as a first
car he said I could pretty much buy anything except
Korean.
We bought her a used Corolla three years ago and it
hasn't missed a beat, a friend bought a KIA Carnival
new and has just spent $4500 replacing the engine,
20,000 kms out of warranty.
He plans to sell it.
>
>
> --
> Trevor Wilson
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>
>
Rod Speed
More fool you.
> When I asked him what to buy my daughter as a first
> car he said I could pretty much buy anything except Korean.
Then he is a terminal fuckwit.
> We bought her a used Corolla three years ago and it
> hasn't missed a beat, a friend bought a KIA Carnival
> new and has just spent $4500 replacing the engine,
> 20,000 kms out of warranty.
> He plans to sell it.
My Getz has never ever had even a single problem.
Clocky
Agreed. When a mechanic makes a blanket statement like that you can safely
assume that it's an emotional response and not one of careful consideration
based on any kind of first hand experience.
>> When I asked him what to buy my daughter as a first
>> car he said I could pretty much buy anything except Korean.
>
> Then he is a terminal fuckwit.
I agree, latest Kia and in particular Hyundai offerings are pretty right up
there with the Jap stuff.
>> We bought her a used Corolla three years ago and it
>> hasn't missed a beat, a friend bought a KIA Carnival
>> new and has just spent $4500 replacing the engine,
>> 20,000 kms out of warranty.
>> He plans to sell it.
>
> My Getz has never ever had even a single problem.
That's because it a sample of *one* fuckwit that never travels anywhere.
Meaningless.
Having said that, the new Getz isn't a bad car but it's just basic cheap
transport. A second hand low mileage Corolla is certainly a better car to
drive and likely will retain a better resale as well.
Trevor Wilson
**I'm sure you do. As I value mine. Let me state, however, that your
mechanic (and mine) is there to make a Buck. The less reliable the car you
own, the more money he/she makes. My mechanic is no different, except that
he owns a Getz and a Corrolla. He reckons the Getz is not quite as good as
the Toyota, but was much less expensive to buy. Both cars are light years
ahead of anything from Europe in terms of reliability.
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www.rageaudio.com.au
Gregory Shearman
I drive a 2005 Hyundai Elantra. Never had a scrap of trouble with
anything on the car except the CD player and *that* was installed in
Australia. Hyundai replaced it without a problem. The car is beautiful,
efficient and reliable.
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Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
Swampfox
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Really?
Not because he's seen a steady procession of Korean
junk through his workshop?
>
>>> When I asked him what to buy my daughter as a
>>> first
>>> car he said I could pretty much buy anything
>>> except Korean.
>>
>> Then he is a terminal fuckwit.
>
> I agree, latest Kia and in particular Hyundai
> offerings are pretty right up there with the Jap
> stuff.
Rubbish.
>
>>> We bought her a used Corolla three years ago and
>>> it
>>> hasn't missed a beat, a friend bought a KIA
>>> Carnival
>>> new and has just spent $4500 replacing the engine,
>>> 20,000 kms out of warranty.
>>> He plans to sell it.
>>
>> My Getz has never ever had even a single problem.
>
> That's because it a sample of *one* fuckwit that
> never travels anywhere.
>
> Meaningless.
>
> Having said that, the new Getz isn't a bad car but
> it's just basic cheap transport. A second hand low
> mileage Corolla is certainly a better car to drive
> and likely will retain a better resale as well.
It also handles and brakes better, is of better build
quality, is more reliable, better designed, more
comfortable and cheaper to repair both mechanically
and for smash repairs.
In short, it is a better car, so is a Nissan,
Mitsubishi or Honda.
Korean is cheap, you get what you pay for.
Swampfox
"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in
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A beautiful Hyundai?
Now I know you're pulling my leg.
Clocky
You clearly are out of touch with reality.
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=22922&vf=12
and Hyundai have improved since then too.
>>
>>>> We bought her a used Corolla three years ago and
>>>> it
>>>> hasn't missed a beat, a friend bought a KIA
>>>> Carnival
>>>> new and has just spent $4500 replacing the engine,
>>>> 20,000 kms out of warranty.
>>>> He plans to sell it.
>>>
>>> My Getz has never ever had even a single problem.
>>
>> That's because it a sample of *one* fuckwit that
>> never travels anywhere.
>>
>> Meaningless.
>>
>> Having said that, the new Getz isn't a bad car but
>> it's just basic cheap transport. A second hand low
>> mileage Corolla is certainly a better car to drive
>> and likely will retain a better resale as well.
>
> It also handles and brakes better, is of better build
> quality, is more reliable, better designed, more
> comfortable and cheaper to repair both mechanically
> and for smash repairs.
Mechanical repairs on Toyota's are hideously expensive if you need genuine
parts but not much goes wrong generally.
> In short, it is a better car, so is a Nissan,
> Mitsubishi or Honda.
If your mechanic doesn't know what a horrid piece of crap the Lancer is then
he really is just a greasemonkey.
> Korean is cheap, you get what you pay for.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your ignorance.
PS You need to find a mechanic with a clue.
Clocky
You want unreliable crap, buy a locally made car ;-)
Trevor Wilson
**Or a Merc. One of my clients has a C-class Benz. Whilst still under
warranty, it has had 37 faults, ranging from minor to very serious. Mercedes
refuses to provide him with a new car. I've heard similar horror stories
from BMW owners (though not quite as bad as the C-class). I've never heard
such horror stories from Toyota, Lexus, Nissan, Mazda or Hyundai owners. My
client has now short-listed a Lexus as his next car purchase. He won't be
buying Benz again.
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Gregory Shearman
Yep. It's neat, and it's been put together meticulously.
> Now I know you're pulling my leg.
Suit yourself. I think a cheap and well-built car is beautiful. YMMV.
BTW, I think a ferrari or a Zonda is damn ugly
Swampfox
That survey is meaningless.
>
>>>
>>>>> We bought her a used Corolla three years ago and
>>>>> it
>>>>> hasn't missed a beat, a friend bought a KIA
>>>>> Carnival
>>>>> new and has just spent $4500 replacing the
>>>>> engine,
>>>>> 20,000 kms out of warranty.
>>>>> He plans to sell it.
>>>>
>>>> My Getz has never ever had even a single problem.
>>>
>>> That's because it a sample of *one* fuckwit that
>>> never travels anywhere.
>>>
>>> Meaningless.
>>>
>>> Having said that, the new Getz isn't a bad car but
>>> it's just basic cheap transport. A second hand low
>>> mileage Corolla is certainly a better car to drive
>>> and likely will retain a better resale as well.
>>
>> It also handles and brakes better, is of better
>> build
>> quality, is more reliable, better designed, more
>> comfortable and cheaper to repair both mechanically
>> and for smash repairs.
>
> Mechanical repairs on Toyota's are hideously
> expensive if you need genuine parts but not much
> goes wrong generally.
Plain wrong, Toyota parts, particularly body panels
and hang ons are generally about the same as Hyundai,
and better quality.
>
>> In short, it is a better car, so is a Nissan,
>> Mitsubishi or Honda.
>
> If your mechanic doesn't know what a horrid piece of
> crap the Lancer is then he really is just a
> greasemonkey.
Nothing at all wrong with Lancers or any other late
model Misubishi.
The earlier Magnas had weak gearboxes and dodgy front
ends but that was sorted ages ago.
>
>> Korean is cheap, you get what you pay for.
>
> Don't let the facts get in the way of your
> ignorance.
>
> PS You need to find a mechanic with a clue.
Says who?
Swampfox
Fair enough, whatever rows your boat, I think Ferraris
are sensational but the latest Aston Martin is
something else entirely.
Swampfox
Beemers have gone downhill recently, the ones built in
the 70's and 80's were bullet proof.
Clocky
Body panels have nothing to do with reliability since they don't wear out,
and the quality is largely dependant where the panels are manufactured. You
will fall over backwards when you find out how much Toyota electrical and
driveline parts cost.
>>
>>> In short, it is a better car, so is a Nissan,
>>> Mitsubishi or Honda.
>>
>> If your mechanic doesn't know what a horrid piece of
>> crap the Lancer is then he really is just a
>> greasemonkey.
>
> Nothing at all wrong with Lancers or any other late
> model Misubishi.
Lancers have always been the poorer cousin to the alternatives, anyone with
a clue would know that.
> The earlier Magnas had weak gearboxes and dodgy front
> ends but that was sorted ages ago.
Locally produced cars are crap, that's a given.
>>
>>> Korean is cheap, you get what you pay for.
>>
>> Don't let the facts get in the way of your
>> ignorance.
>>
>> PS You need to find a mechanic with a clue.
>
> Says who?
Someone with over 20 years of experience in the industry.
Gregory Shearman
>
>>
>> Suit yourself. I think a cheap and well-built car is
>> beautiful. YMMV.
>>
>> BTW, I think a ferrari or a Zonda is damn ugly
>
> Fair enough, whatever rows your boat, I think Ferraris
> are sensational but the latest Aston Martin is
> something else entirely.
Yes it is. Very nice.
I think Kylie Minogue is very nice too, but a little too rich for me.
Clocky
Yeah, you can't go wrong with a Toyota.
Trevor Wilson
**You got that right. One of my mates has owned a Lexus for a few years. He
has loved it. It has been utterly reliable, comfortable and, when a service
is required, the dealer loans him another vehicle. The car has some kind of
Australia-wide gurantee, where they promise to fly a mechanic to any
location to ensure it is repaired correctly (or something like that). Not
that it has ever been necessary. Anyhoo, he told me he was looking for a new
car. I related the story about my client with the C-Class Benz and I figured
he would just buy the latest model Lexus (why wouldn't you?). Nope. He just
bought a Merc.
[Shakes head]
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Swampfox
The cost of body panels contribute to the overall cost
of ownership, anyone with a clue would know that.
I drove Toyotas for years, the price of parts were no
higher than a Commodore, or a Hyundai for that matter.
>
>
>>>
>>>> In short, it is a better car, so is a Nissan,
>>>> Mitsubishi or Honda.
>>>
>>> If your mechanic doesn't know what a horrid piece
>>> of
>>> crap the Lancer is then he really is just a
>>> greasemonkey.
>>
>> Nothing at all wrong with Lancers or any other late
>> model Misubishi.
>
> Lancers have always been the poorer cousin to the
> alternatives, anyone with a clue would know that.
>
>> The earlier Magnas had weak gearboxes and dodgy
>> front
>> ends but that was sorted ages ago.
>
> Locally produced cars are crap, that's a given.
Rot.
The Mitsubishi 380 is an outstanding car, Australian
made, no longer produced sadly.
5 year warranty, 5 years roadside assist, 160,000 Km
powertrain warranty, 5 year rust perforation warranty,
the same goes for Lancers or any other Mitsubishi.
They produce quality cars and stand by them.
>
>>>
>>>> Korean is cheap, you get what you pay for.
>>>
>>> Don't let the facts get in the way of your
>>> ignorance.
>>>
>>> PS You need to find a mechanic with a clue.
>>
>> Says who?
>
> Someone with over 20 years of experience in the
> industry.
As what?
Swampfox
> On 2009-07-06, Swampfox <noi...@whocares.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Suit yourself. I think a cheap and well-built car
>>> is
>>> beautiful. YMMV.
>>>
>>> BTW, I think a ferrari or a Zonda is damn ugly
>>
>> Fair enough, whatever rows your boat, I think
>> Ferraris
>> are sensational but the latest Aston Martin is
>> something else entirely.
>
> Yes it is. Very nice.
>
> I think Kylie Minogue is very nice too, but a little
> too rich for me.
I'd take the Aston Martin thanks.
Rod Speed
Mitsubishi Japan clearly doesnt.
Swampfox
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Swampfox wrote:
>> "Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>>>
>>> Locally produced cars are crap, that's a given.
>>
>> Rot.
>> The Mitsubishi 380 is an outstanding car,
>> Australian
>> made, no longer produced sadly.
>> 5 year warranty, 5 years roadside assist, 160,000
>> Km
>> powertrain warranty, 5 year rust perforation
>> warranty,
>> the same goes for Lancers or any other Mitsubishi.
>> They produce quality cars and stand by them.
>
> Mitsubishi Japan clearly doesnt.
Seeing as my post was in response to Clocky's
statement that "Locally produced cars are crap, that's
a given.", then your comment about Mitsubishi Japan is
totally irrelevant.
Wota terminal fuckwit.
<snip>
Clocky
1. Nobody bought their 380, nobody bought the US Galant it was as a previous
incarnation either.
2. Mitsubishi Japan shut them down.
Swampfox
> 1. Nobody bought their 380, nobody bought the US
> Galant it was as a previous incarnation either.
> 2. Mitsubishi Japan shut them down.
Irrelevant as to whether it was a good car or not.
It was released at precisely the wrong time, rapidly
escalating oil prices and a general move away from
large cars, GM and Chrysler USA can attest to that.
It was and is an excellent car, clearly superior to
the Falcon or Commodore and better than the Camry, and
some canny people are picking them up ridiculously
cheap notwidthstanding the poor resale value.
A similar thing happened here in the early 90's when
Nissan invested a lot of time and money developing the
local U12 Pintara (Ford Corsair).
A very good car that failed against the Camry for a
variety of reasons and ultimately contributed to
Nissan's exit from Australian manufacturing.
Transmission leaks and engine mounts aside, many are
still on the road with 300,000 + kilometres on the
meter, the engines are bullet proof and the bodies
didn't rust out like the equivalent Toyota.
Toyota has a deserved reputation for reliability but
Nissan and Mitsubishi make cars that are just as good.
Clocky
> "Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
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>> 1. Nobody bought their 380, nobody bought the US
>> Galant it was as a previous incarnation either.
>> 2. Mitsubishi Japan shut them down.
>
> Irrelevant as to whether it was a good car or not.
> It was released at precisely the wrong time, rapidly
> escalating oil prices and a general move away from
> large cars, GM and Chrysler USA can attest to that.
> It was and is an excellent car, clearly superior to
> the Falcon or Commodore and better than the Camry,
Nope, feature for feature is was a generation behind all three, add to that
front wheel drive and a very average interior and it was doomed to fail.
and
> some canny people are picking them up ridiculously
> cheap notwidthstanding the poor resale value.
> A similar thing happened here in the early 90's when
> Nissan invested a lot of time and money developing the
> local U12 Pintara (Ford Corsair).
> A very good car that failed against the Camry for a
> variety of reasons and ultimately contributed to
> Nissan's exit from Australian manufacturing.
> Transmission leaks and engine mounts aside, many are
> still on the road with 300,000 + kilometres on the
> meter, the engines are bullet proof and the bodies
> didn't rust out like the equivalent Toyota.
Plenty of Daewoo's on the road with 300,000km+ km's, what is your point
again?
> Toyota has a deserved reputation for reliability but
> Nissan and Mitsubishi make cars that are just as good.
Have fun explaining why Mitsubishi were caught hiding faults that should
have resulted in recalls.
Swampfox
> Swampfox wrote:
>> "Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
>> news:006fb9f1$0$9718$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> 1. Nobody bought their 380, nobody bought the US
>>> Galant it was as a previous incarnation either.
>>> 2. Mitsubishi Japan shut them down.
>>
>> Irrelevant as to whether it was a good car or not.
>> It was released at precisely the wrong time,
>> rapidly
>> escalating oil prices and a general move away from
>> large cars, GM and Chrysler USA can attest to that.
>> It was and is an excellent car, clearly superior to
>> the Falcon or Commodore and better than the Camry,
>
> Nope, feature for feature is was a generation behind
> all three, add to that front wheel drive and a very
> average interior and it was doomed to fail.
Care to list the features it was a generation behind
in?
The Camry is front wheel drive.
>
> and
>> some canny people are picking them up ridiculously
>> cheap notwidthstanding the poor resale value.
>> A similar thing happened here in the early 90's
>> when
>> Nissan invested a lot of time and money developing
>> the
>> local U12 Pintara (Ford Corsair).
>> A very good car that failed against the Camry for a
>> variety of reasons and ultimately contributed to
>> Nissan's exit from Australian manufacturing.
>> Transmission leaks and engine mounts aside, many
>> are
>> still on the road with 300,000 + kilometres on the
>> meter, the engines are bullet proof and the bodies
>> didn't rust out like the equivalent Toyota.
>
> Plenty of Daewoo's on the road with 300,000km+ km's,
> what is your point again?
Any fool that would maintain a Daewoo for 300,000 Kms
deserves it, he or she and the Daewoo are a perfect
match.
>
>> Toyota has a deserved reputation for reliability
>> but
>> Nissan and Mitsubishi make cars that are just as
>> good.
>
> Have fun explaining why Mitsubishi were caught
> hiding faults that should have resulted in recalls.
Such as?