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Nov 15, 2009, 4:38:05 AM11/15/09
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My friend wants to buy a touchscreen computer hes seen at Aldi supermarket
for $1300

I know nothing about it? Haven't seen the specs even. Does anyone else
know anything?

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:19:53 AM11/15/09
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"Andy" <no@invalid> wrote in message
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> Fucking hell, $1300? It'd want to be *nice*.
>
> This for 800 bucks.
>
> http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2
>
> (I have no idea the specs of the Aldi machine).
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well I just found it on the net heres a link it looks like its got great
specs
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2867_10751.htm

any comments? hes keen as mustard so if im to head him off i need to know
quickly

Fast Freddy

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Nov 15, 2009, 6:01:33 AM11/15/09
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a fucking Medion, no thanks, their service department is staffed by
maccas rejects, they have no fucking clue whatever.

be warned, if you do need a service it will be months before you get it
back, that is if they fucking don't lose it.

son of a bitch

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:11:36 AM11/15/09
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MSI has 15" wide touchy screen for round same price.
ASUS also has one.

Both of these don't have very powerful processors, just enough for
browser and email.

The Median I believe has descent processor.

sandy58

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:55:28 AM11/15/09
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So it's always going "down"? <kiddin'>

annily

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:53:30 PM11/15/09
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Andy wrote:
> Fucking hell, $1300? It'd want to be *nice*.
>
> This for 800 bucks.
>
> http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2
>

That link is to a $1239 machine.

Who in his or her right mind wants a touch screen computer anyway?

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which may or may not influence my opinions.

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:59:36 PM11/15/09
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"annily" <ann...@ihopethisdoesntexist.com> wrote in message
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> Andy wrote:
>> blank wrote:
>>
>>> My friend wants to buy a touchscreen computer hes seen at Aldi
>>> supermarket for $1300
>>>
>>> I know nothing about it? Haven't seen the specs even. Does anyone else
>>> know anything?
>>
>> Fucking hell, $1300? It'd want to be *nice*.
>>
>> This for 800 bucks.
>>
>> http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2
>>
>
> That link is to a $1239 machine.
>
> Who in his or her right mind wants a touch screen computer anyway?
>
An old gentleman with limited mobility in his hands; he has trouble
manipulating a mouse. His is very much in his right mind, in fact a retired
university lecturer from Melbourne Uni.

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son of a bitch

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:17:36 PM11/15/09
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annily wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>> blank wrote:
>>
>>> My friend wants to buy a touchscreen computer hes seen at Aldi
>>> supermarket for $1300
>>>
>>> I know nothing about it? Haven't seen the specs even. Does anyone
>>> else know anything?
>>
>> Fucking hell, $1300? It'd want to be *nice*.
>>
>> This for 800 bucks.
>>
>> http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2
>>
>
> That link is to a $1239 machine.
>
> Who in his or her right mind wants a touch screen computer anyway?
>

I can see "some" folk might find it useful, but will they be a
pain in ass and as unreliable as Moby Fones.

And being a All-In-One you can't just replace the screen without
paying a fortune for the repair.


terryc

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:59:58 PM11/15/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:59:36 +1100, blank wrote:


> An old gentleman with limited mobility in his hands; he has trouble
> manipulating a mouse. His is very much in his right mind, in fact a
> retired university lecturer from Melbourne Uni.

what about a joystick?
Is it arm movement, or finger movement or both.
Or a touch pad?

terryc

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:00:31 AM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:59:36 +1100, blank wrote:


> An old gentleman with limited mobility in his hands; he has trouble
> manipulating a mouse. His is very much in his right mind, in fact a
> retired university lecturer from Melbourne Uni.

what about a joystick?

annily

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:29:44 AM11/16/09
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Andy wrote:

> annily wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> blank wrote:
>>>
>>>> My friend wants to buy a touchscreen computer hes seen at Aldi supermarket
>>>> for $1300
>>>>
>>>> I know nothing about it? Haven't seen the specs even. Does anyone else
>>>> know anything?
>>> Fucking hell, $1300? It'd want to be *nice*.
>>>
>>> This for 800 bucks.
>>>
>>> http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2
>>>
>> That link is to a $1239 machine.
>
> Bah! Evidently a 'dynamic' link.
>
> Last night it pointed to a $799 machine.
>

Yeah, I thought it might have been that, since it's a "deal of the day"
or something like that.

annily

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:33:19 AM11/16/09
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Perhaps voice recognition would be even better for him, but that
technology is probably not as well developed.

Can he use a keyboard? Many common computer functions can be done
without a mouse anyway. I dislike using a mouse anyway, and prefer to do
as much as possible via the keyboard.

Marts

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:57:32 AM11/16/09
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Fast Freddy wrote...

> a fucking Medion, no thanks, their service department is staffed by
> maccas rejects, they have no fucking clue whatever.

How do you know this?



> be warned, if you do need a service it will be months before you get it
> back, that is if they fucking don't lose it.

Has this happened to you?


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Marts

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:57:32 AM11/16/09
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blank wrote...

> My friend wants to buy a touchscreen computer hes seen at Aldi supermarket
> for $1300

Looking at the specs it seems fairly dear. I'd go for something of similar specs
from a shop such as Computers and Parts Land in Melbourne (www.cpl.net.au).

Compare the prices of what it has, specs-wise then consider if the touch screen
functionality is worth it.

Doug Jewell

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:45:53 AM11/16/09
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The specs and price look ok to me, but just a couple of
things I'd be wary of -

1. What technology for the touch-screen? If it's a pressure
/ capacitive based system like on PDA's etc, then they can
and do wear out, plus they lower the visual quality of the
screen. The HP touchsmart systems use cameras in corners of
the screen to detect touch - much more reliable, and works
with gloves etc. The touchsmart system means they can use a
proper glossy display which means easier to clean -
important if you are touching it all the time.

2. What is Aldi's support like. I haven't heard a lot about
them, but the little bits I have heard are that it isn't
much good. But then you only ever hear the negatives.
Anyway, that's just a couple of things I'd be mindful of if
considering purchase.

Personally, if I was thinking of getting something like this
I'd spring the extra cash and get one of the HP Touchsmarts
- more of a known quantity.

--
What is the difference between a duck?

Frank Slootweg

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:44:33 PM11/16/09
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blank <nowhere.net> wrote:
> "annily" <ann...@ihopethisdoesntexist.com> wrote in message
> news:007c7765$0$23799$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
[...]

> > Who in his or her right mind wants a touch screen computer anyway?
> >
> An old gentleman with limited mobility in his hands; he has trouble
> manipulating a mouse. His is very much in his right mind, in fact a retired
> university lecturer from Melbourne Uni.

Have you considered the use of a trackball? Depending on what *his*
"limited mobility" *exactly*, means, a trackball may well be the ticket.

And, as annily later mentioned, consider the use of the keyboard as
a/the main alternative for a mouse or similar device. For me the major
use of the keyboard, with the occasional use of a trackball was the best
solution.

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Nov 16, 2009, 7:25:14 PM11/16/09
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"Rom" <-...@-.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:59:36 +1100, blank wrote:
>
>> "annily" <ann...@ihopethisdoesntexist.com> wrote in message
>> news:007c7765$0$23799$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>
>>> Who in his or her right mind wants a touch screen computer anyway?
>>>
>> An old gentleman with limited mobility in his hands; he has trouble
>> manipulating a mouse. His is very much in his right mind, in fact a
>> retired
>> university lecturer from Melbourne Uni.
>
> Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch <http://www.wacom.com.au/bamboo/bamboo/>
>
> Having used graphic/pen tablets for a couple of years, which are good
> alternative input devices, this one combines pen and multi-touch and
> would be better than only touch IMO. It's affordable, maps to screen
> and the active area is smaller than a screen so less arm/hand
> movement. A pen is great for navigation and without much movement.
> Vista and Win7 also have built-in tablet functionality.
>
> --
> Rom

I wasnt aware of that. Will check it out. Anyway the decision to buy the
Aldi has now been reversed. I found a number of negative comments on the
support and lack of honouring warranty so he has decided to buy a HP
touchsmart.

Thanks to all who commented.

Marts

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:00:00 AM11/17/09
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Frank Slootweg wrote...

> Have you considered the use of a trackball? Depending on what *his*
> "limited mobility" *exactly*, means, a trackball may well be the ticket.

Are modern trackballs optical or do they still use the old fashioned friction
driven X-Y wheels?

We trialed them at work. but gave up on them as they (the balls) got greasy and
so the wheels failed to turn.

Marts

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:00:00 AM11/17/09
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blank wrote...

> An old gentleman with limited mobility in his hands; he has trouble
> manipulating a mouse. His is very much in his right mind, in fact a retired
> university lecturer from Melbourne Uni.

Where I work we had computer equipment that was either touch screen or used a
flat membrane panel to control functions.

Then we went to a Windows based console system (made by ABB). It's all mouse
driven.

While reliable, better graphics and arguably faster, I still miss the touch
screen functions.

Marts

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:00:00 AM11/17/09
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annily wrote...

> Who in his or her right mind wants a touch screen computer anyway?

iPod/iPhone-a-philes, perhaps?

Doug Jewell

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:13:30 AM11/17/09
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There's probably still some cheap friction ones around, but
for probably 5 years the only trackballs I've seen have been
Logitech optical units. They have a pattern on the surface
of the ball that they read optically, and work quite well. I
haven't seen them in shops either, for quite some time. I
used to have one at work which was absolutely brilliant.
Beat the hell out of chasing a mouse around the table.

Fast Freddy

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:41:07 AM11/17/09
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Marts wrote:
> Fast Freddy wrote...
>
>> a fucking Medion, no thanks, their service department is staffed by
>> maccas rejects, they have no fucking clue whatever.
>
> How do you know this?
>
>> be warned, if you do need a service it will be months before you get it
>> back, that is if they fucking don't lose it.
>
> Has this happened to you?
>
>
yep, 6 months thanks to their total stuff up, they don't respond to
emails, the call waiting can take up to 45mins.

Frank Slootweg

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:23:21 PM11/17/09
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Marts <ma...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote...
>
> > Have you considered the use of a trackball? Depending on what *his*
> > "limited mobility" *exactly*, means, a trackball may well be the ticket.
>
> Are modern trackballs optical or do they still use the old fashioned friction
> driven X-Y wheels?

The "modern" ones are optical. I use "modern" in quotes, because mine,
a Logitech one (Trackman Marble), is already at least six years old [1].

> We trialed them at work. but gave up on them as they (the balls) got
> greasy and so the wheels failed to turn.

Except the HP HIL ones! :-) They were one of the first ones and were
built like tanks (and *felt* like tanks :-)). But they were before their
time and used the proprietary HIL (Human Interface Loop). USB did not
yet exist and RS232 interfaces were too cumbersome to configure.

[1] This one might be slightly different, but looks a lot like mine,
highly recommended:

<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&cl=au,en>

rob

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:17:37 PM11/17/09
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The track balls they use in pub golf games are just the ball onto metal
rollers and an optical wheel setup on that roller and they don't seem to
have the grease problem. the ball would be about 70mm dia. but the ball
wears the steel rollers. these machines have to be of a standard as they
are linked into the web for competitions.

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