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Don McKenzie
May 14, 2013, 6:44:39 PM5/14/13
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Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time, so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
What a bitter disappointment.
I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
Don...
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Sylvia Else
May 18, 2013, 12:40:05 AM5/18/13
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On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>
> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
> What a bitter disappointment.
The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>
> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
> What a bitter disappointment.
This is what you have to simulate.
Sylvia.
Petzl
May 18, 2013, 5:07:33 AM5/18/13
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Get these calls all the time never hang up tell them I'm getting
someone to answer and leave the phone by the TV
Not sure but wonder if a Internet phone will stop charging caller when
I do this?
Used to be if I call "you" on a landline and didn't hang up it would
disable your phone till I did. Not other way around (Landline to me is
unimportant)
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felix_unger
May 18, 2013, 6:50:57 AM5/18/13
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rgds,
Pete
-------
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Petzl
May 18, 2013, 8:26:51 AM5/18/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 20:50:57 +1000, felix_unger <m...@nothere.com>
wrote:
>On 18-May-2013 2:40 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
>>> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>>
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me
>>> fix it.
>>>
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>>
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>
>> The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>> This is what you have to simulate.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>
>I just blast them with 110db from a personal security alarm :)
Talk quietly first
wrote:
>On 18-May-2013 2:40 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
>>> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>>
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me
>>> fix it.
>>>
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>>
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>
>> The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>> This is what you have to simulate.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>
>I just blast them with 110db from a personal security alarm :)
Rod Speed
May 18, 2013, 11:21:39 AM5/18/13
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Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote
> Get these calls all the time never hang up tell them I'm
> getting someone to answer and leave the phone by the TV
> Not sure but wonder if a Internet phone
> will stop charging caller when I do this?
They don't get charged for the length of the call at
all, just for the call itself, and only cents for that too.
> Used to be if I call "you" on a landline and didn't
> hang up it would disable your phone till I did.
Nope. You would always see a B party disconnect
rather later, usually after about a minute and a half.
It was done like that so that when you were called,
you could unplug the phone, move it to somewhere
else in the house, plug it into the socket there, and
continue with the call that had just come in.
> Not other way around
Yes there is, don't even have a phone plugged in at all.
> Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote
>> Don McKenzie wrote
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike
>>> Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix
>>> it.
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>>This is what you have to simulate.
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike
>>> Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix
>>> it.
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>>This is what you have to simulate.
> I'm with Telstra and HAVE to have a landline phone?
But you don't have to even have a phone plugged into it.
> Get these calls all the time never hang up tell them I'm
> getting someone to answer and leave the phone by the TV
> Not sure but wonder if a Internet phone
> will stop charging caller when I do this?
all, just for the call itself, and only cents for that too.
> Used to be if I call "you" on a landline and didn't
> hang up it would disable your phone till I did.
rather later, usually after about a minute and a half.
It was done like that so that when you were called,
you could unplug the phone, move it to somewhere
else in the house, plug it into the socket there, and
continue with the call that had just come in.
> Not other way around
Yes there is, don't even have a phone plugged in at all.
Clocky
May 18, 2013, 12:35:52 PM5/18/13
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felix_unger wrote:
> On 18-May-2013 2:40 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
>>> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>>
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me
>>> fix it.
>>>
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>>
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>
>> The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>> This is what you have to simulate.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>
> I just blast them with 110db from a personal security alarm :)
>
You might find yourself in a whole lot of trouble if it damages their
> On 18-May-2013 2:40 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
>>> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>>
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me
>>> fix it.
>>>
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>>
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>
>> The natural response of an ideal mark is to express concern or worry.
>> This is what you have to simulate.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>
> I just blast them with 110db from a personal security alarm :)
>
hearing.
Rod Speed
May 18, 2013, 3:53:35 PM5/18/13
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"Clocky" <not...@happen.com> wrote in message
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dangerous to their hearing.
Bob Milutinovic
May 18, 2013, 5:46:39 PM5/18/13
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"Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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Just think to yourself, "what would Winnie the Pooh say in a situation like
this?" ;-)
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this?" ;-)
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felix_unger
May 18, 2013, 6:38:07 PM5/18/13
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felix_unger
May 18, 2013, 6:38:45 PM5/18/13
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Clocky
May 18, 2013, 9:12:53 PM5/18/13
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Clocky
May 18, 2013, 9:15:33 PM5/18/13
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is ok do you?
Tell me, if Jehovas knock on your door, do you punch them in the face?
Petzl
May 18, 2013, 10:51:23 PM5/18/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:15:33 +0800, Clocky <not...@happen.com> wrote:
>>>> You might find yourself in a whole lot of trouble if it damages their
>>>> hearing.
>>>
>>> It can't, the phone system clips it so it can never be at levels
>>> dangerous to their hearing.
>>
>> rats!
>>
>
>You think damaging someones hearing because of an unsolicited phonecall
>is ok do you?
>
Yep
>>>> You might find yourself in a whole lot of trouble if it damages their
>>>> hearing.
>>>
>>> It can't, the phone system clips it so it can never be at levels
>>> dangerous to their hearing.
>>
>> rats!
>>
>
>You think damaging someones hearing because of an unsolicited phonecall
>is ok do you?
>
http://fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Consumers/Scams/Recent_scams.html?DCSext.ref=HomePageClick:ScamandAlerts
or < http://tinyurl.com/bjf5huu >
>Tell me, if Jehovas knock on your door, do you punch them in the face?
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy; Not confirmation of their
delusions. The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a
Christian Church. Not my front door
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ which Jehovas do not
believe in as such have renounced Australian citaenship
That has them go away steaming
Rod Speed
May 18, 2013, 11:24:25 PM5/18/13
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I don't hope, I know.
> but don't assume it will.
I know it always does. There is no other way to do it.
> but don't assume it will.
Rod Speed
May 18, 2013, 11:26:11 PM5/18/13
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Yep, particularly when they are flouting the law and trying to scam me.
> Tell me, if Jehovas knock on your door, do you punch them in the face?
Nope, that's what the rotty and the shotty are for.
> Tell me, if Jehovas knock on your door, do you punch them in the face?
felix_unger
May 19, 2013, 12:23:31 AM5/19/13
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defrauded do you? Oh, you probably do because you vote for crooks and
fraudsters.
>
> Tell me, if Jehovas knock on your door, do you punch them in the face?
geoff
May 26, 2013, 2:03:06 AM5/26/13
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"Don McKenzie" <5...@2.5A> wrote in message
news:avft2n...@mid.individual.net...
>
> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from a
> "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time, so
> I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
> What a bitter disappointment.
>
> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
I play along and when they start asking for particulars mention that they
> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from a
> "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time, so
> I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
> What a bitter disappointment.
>
> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
are talking to Interpol.
geoff
Jeßus
May 27, 2013, 2:50:35 AM5/27/13
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:44:39 +1000, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
>
>Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
>He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
>Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time, so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
>Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>What a bitter disappointment.
>
>I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
They called me last week while I was doing my home brew, straight off
>
>Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
>He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
>Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time, so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
>Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>What a bitter disappointment.
>
>I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
I asked him what the fuck he wanted (in those words), which he either
ignored or it went over his head.
I had the cordless handset so I thought why not string him along as it
wasn't slowing me down with the brewing. After about 25 minutes I got
a bit bored, so that's when I explained I was wasting his time.
He didn't like it... the discussion then got *very* interesting for
nearly another 20 minutes when I compared my lifestyle to his, being
in some cubicle in some sewer of a city in Africa before he finally
hung up.
He didn't believe I was an (retired) IT tech, because I couldn't
provide him with my 'I.D number' :)
Clocky
May 27, 2013, 4:44:27 AM5/27/13
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predictably.
Oh, you probably do because you vote for crooks and
> fraudsters.
>
>>
>> Tell me, if Jehovas knock on your door, do you punch them in the face?
>
> no, I hide.. :)
>
>
Clocky
May 27, 2013, 4:45:17 AM5/27/13
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Rod Speed
May 27, 2013, 6:58:08 AM5/27/13
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Anyone who knows anything about the phone system knows that.
theik...@gmail.com
May 28, 2013, 6:53:25 AM5/28/13
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Hahaha! Mike probably realized you knew it was a scam. Too bad, I can tell it would have been a funny conversation.
theik...@gmail.com
May 28, 2013, 6:58:15 AM5/28/13
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By the way, did you report the phone number to http://www.callercenter.com already? It would really help if we share information on the latest phone schemes. By doing so, we keep our community safe.
Sylvia Else
Jul 19, 2013, 7:36:11 AM7/19/13
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On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>
>
> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
> What a bitter disappointment.
>
> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
>
> Don...
>
I got to play today.
> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>
> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix it.
>
> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>
> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
> What a bitter disappointment.
>
> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
>
> Don...
>
First we got to visit the event log, where the reported errors were
claimed to be evidence of virus attacks. Without being prompted I opened
a report and told him that it said "Time not set". He just told me not
to open them, and alleged that it was dangerous to do so.
Then we went off to a command prompt, where he got me to enter an assoc
command. He drew my attention to the
.ZFSendToTarget=CLSID{888DCA60-FC0A-11CF-8F0F-00C04FD7D062}
line and told me that it was my computer's serial number (it's actually
always the same number), and proceeded to get me to start checking it as
he read it out. When he got to the 11CF part, I insisted that it was
11CD. This should have been his first real clue that I wasn't really a
mark. He started again, and again, when we reached 11CF I insisted that
it as 11CD. He brushed that off on the basis that the preceeding part
was the serial number, and 11CD etc part was something else.
Then he got me to go to a web site, and click on a link that would
download some software. He asked what I saw, and I said there was a
window that said "You don't want to run this." He asked whether there
was a button marked along the lines of "run anway". I said there was, so
he asked me to press it. I told him that I had, and that it said "You
really don't want to run this."
Then we had some discussion about whether I had a virus checker
installed. I said (falsely, as it happens) that I didn't.
So he then directed me to a different web page, and again click to
download a program. I said that a window came up saying "You don't want
to run this either."
And finally, he twigged.
Sheesh, these people are slow. No wonder they're working for Indian scam
call centres.
Sylvia.
Damian
Jul 21, 2013, 10:43:00 PM7/21/13
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"Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>
>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
>> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>
>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix
>> it.
>>
>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>
>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>
>> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
>>
>> Don...
>>
>
> I got to play today.
>
How do you do that?!
>>
>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike Johnson from
>> a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>
>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help me fix
>> it.
>>
>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first time,
>> so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>
>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started.
>> What a bitter disappointment.
>>
>> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
>>
>> Don...
>>
>
> I got to play today.
>
Did you disclose your phone number to them?
Sylvia Else
Jul 28, 2013, 12:15:07 AM7/28/13
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On 22/07/2013 12:43 PM, Damian wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
> news:b4smld...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike
>>> Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>>
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help
>>> me fix it.
>>>
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first
>>> time, so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>>
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started. What
>>> a bitter disappointment.
>>>
>>> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
>>>
>>> Don...
>>>
>>
>> I got to play today.
>>
>
> How do you do that?! Did you disclose your phone number to them?
No. I think they just target numbers are random. You just have to wait,
> "Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
> news:b4smld...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 15/05/2013 8:44 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night at around 18:00, I got a phone call from a Mike
>>> Johnson from a "muffled (not very clear)" computer company.
>>> Sounded like an Indian accent. Unusual I thought. :-)
>>>
>>> He said I have a computer problem, and he would be able to help
>>> me fix it.
>>>
>>> Well, so many have had this call in the past, and it was my first
>>> time, so I was pretty enthusiastic to play the game.
>>>
>>> Perhaps too enthusiastic, he hung up before we got started. What
>>> a bitter disappointment.
>>>
>>> I assume they are still catching plenty of people out still.
>>>
>>> Don...
>>>
>>
>> I got to play today.
>>
>
> How do you do that?! Did you disclose your phone number to them?
and be ready.
I've had a number of such calls. Sometimes I've played, and sometimes
I've just hung up on them. Depends on my mood and other demands on my time.
Sylvia.
Don McKenzie
Aug 1, 2013, 6:15:26 PM8/1/13
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On 28-Jul-13 2:15 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
> No. I think they just target numbers are random. You just have to wait, and be ready.
>
> I've had a number of such calls. Sometimes I've played, and sometimes I've just hung up on them. Depends on my mood and
> other demands on my time.
>
> Sylvia.
Now getting a lot of "0011976000" numbers during the afternoon towards evening meal time.
>
> No. I think they just target numbers are random. You just have to wait, and be ready.
>
> I've had a number of such calls. Sometimes I've played, and sometimes I've just hung up on them. Depends on my mood and
> other demands on my time.
>
> Sylvia.
Have answered with: "I bought a jeep", and "I have been waiting for you to call as I missed you", and they always hang
up, or no speaky.
Google 0011976000 brings up some interesting results.
for example:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-001-197-6000
Don...
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