server

[Max]

Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?
Just for posting and reading text.

[Rod Speed]

Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?

Dont know of one anymore.

Paganini used to but has gone.

[Petzl]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:23:08 +1100, Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote:

>Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?
> Just for posting and reading text.
>

Don't know of a web based one
This so far free one needs a Newsreader
<https://www.eternal-september.org>

Suggest this if you have a windows operating system
<https://www.officearticles.com/outlook/accessing_newsreader_or_newsgroups_in_microsoft_outlook.htm>
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[Rod Speed]

Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote

> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?

>> Just for posting and reading text.

> Don't know of a web based one

There is one, but it does require an account.

> This so far free one needs a Newsreader
> <https://www.eternal-september.org>

But requires and account.

> Suggest this if you have a windows operating system
> <https://www.officearticles.com/outlook/accessing_newsreader_or_newsgroups_in_microsoft_outlook.htm>

Most use thunderbird now. Not a great UI, but it does work.

[Max]

On 27/01/2024 7:58 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:23:08 +1100, Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?
>> Just for posting and reading text.
>>
> Don't know of a web based one
> This so far free one needs a Newsreader
> <https://www.eternal-september.org>
>
> Suggest this if you have a windows operating system
> <https://www.officearticles.com/outlook/accessing_newsreader_or_newsgroups_in_microsoft_outlook.htm>

That looks like a very old version of Outlook. Are you sure you can do
that in the current versions?

[Petzl]

If ypu can find one it is the best for usenet text Rod uses iy I
think?

[Rod Speed]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:26:13 +1100, Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote:

That is talking about outlook express, not outlook.

> Are you sure you can do that in the current versions?

Outlook express still works, but doesnt quote properly.

The older version does still work and quotes properly.

[Rod Speed]

I used to use outlook express for newgroups.

I havent used it for years now, I use Opera Mail now.

[Ozix]

paganini is still going, but seems quite slow
also solani is another free but slow server

[Rod Speed]

Ozix <oz...@xizo.am> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

>>> Is there any usenet server that is freethat doesn't require an

>>> account?

>> Dont know of one anymore.

>> Paganini used to but has gone.

>>> Just for posting and reading text.

> paganini is still going, but seems quite slow

> also solani is another free but slow server

That requires an account.

[Marco Moock]

Am 27.01.2024 um 14:26:13 Uhr schrieb Max:

> That looks like a very old version of Outlook.

Looks like 2003.

[Marco Moock]

Am 26.01.2024 um 15:23:08 Uhr schrieb Max:

> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
> account? Just for posting and reading text.

paganini.bofh.team.

Many of them required auth because trolls will abuse it instead.
What is the problem in creating an account?

[J0lly Rog3r]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, Rod Speed wrote:

> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>
>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?
>
> Dont know of one anymore.

The one I use has no sign-up

[J0lly Rog3r]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, Max wrote:

> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an account?
> Just for posting and reading text.
>

What's wrong with the server you are using now?

Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.

[Marco Moock]

But is restricted to certain IP ranges.

[Petzl]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:54:06 +1000, J0lly Rog3r <j...@example.net>
wrote:

https://newsgroups.ausics.net
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[Computer Nerd Kev]

Marco Moock <mm+use...@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> Am 26.01.2024 um 15:23:08 Uhr schrieb Max:
>
>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
>> account? Just for posting and reading text.
>
> paganini.bofh.team.

Ah rats, someone told him.

> Many of them required auth because trolls will abuse it instead.

Like Max has done in the past nymshifting with Aioe.

> What is the problem in creating an account?

Presumably he's getting his nymshifting urges again.

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[Max]

I was actually thinking of making a phone app to post and read usenet
newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.

And also since Google Groups will soon no longer show new content nor
allow posting, so there will be no way to post and read newsgroups on a
mobile anymore.

But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they wouldn't
want to have to create an account with one of the usenet servers.

[Rod Speed]

Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>> Max wrote4

>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.

>> What's wrong with the server you are using now?

>> Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.

> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and read usenet

> newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.

For which phone OS ?

> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer shownew content nor
> allow posting, so there will be no wayto post and read newsgroups on a
> mobile anymore.

There are in fact usenet apps for both iOS and android phones and tablets.

[Xeno]

Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>>> Max wrote4
>
>>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
>>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.
>
>>> What's wrong with the server you are using now?
>
>>> Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.
>
>> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and read usenet
>> newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.
>
> For which phone OS ?
>
>> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer shownew content nor
>> allow posting, so there will be no wayto post and read newsgroups on a
>> mobile anymore.
>
> There are in fact usenet apps for both iOS and android phones and tablets.
>

Yup, using NewsTap on my iPhone right now.

____
Xeno

[Max]

On 29/01/2024 4:50 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>>> Max wrote4
>
>>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
>>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.
>
>>>  What's wrong with the server you are using now?
>
>>>  Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.
>
>> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and read usenet
>> newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.
>
> For which phone OS ?
>

I would want it run on both iPhone and Android. You can use
cross-platform tools like Google Flutter where you just make on thing
and it can be deployed on both.

>> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer shownew content nor
>> allow posting, so there will be no wayto post and read newsgroups on
>> a  mobile anymore.
>
> There are in fact usenet apps for both iOS and android phones and tablets.
>

Which ones? The only one I found for Android was not good.

[Marco Moock]

Am 29.01.2024 um 14:53:05 Uhr schrieb Max:

> But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they
> wouldn't want to have to create an account with one of the usenet
> servers.

You can operate your own Usenet server and let them post through it.

[Rod Speed]

Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>>> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>>>> Max wrote4

>>>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
>>>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.

>>>> What's wrong with the server you are using now?

>>>> Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.

>>> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and readusenet
>>> newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.

>> For which phone OS ?

> I would want it run on both iPhone and Android.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just make

> on thing and it can be deployed on both.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

>>> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer show
>>> new content nor allow posting, so there will be no way
>>> to post and read newsgroups on a mobile anymore.

>> There are in fact usenet apps for both iOSand android phones and
>> tablets.

> Which ones?

NewsTap for iOS

Piaohong for android

[Max]

On 29/01/2024 7:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>>>> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>>>>> Max wrote4
>
>>>>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn't require an
>>>>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.
>
>>>>>  What's wrong with the server you are using now?
>
>>>>>  Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.
>
>>>> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and
>>>> readusenet   newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.
>
>>>  For which phone OS ?
>
>> I would want it run on both iPhone and Android.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>

There are definitely cross-platform tools to build apps on both Iphone
and Android, using a single code-base.

>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>

There are definitely cross-platform tools to build apps on both Iphone
and Android, using a single code-base.

>>>> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer show
>>>> new content nor  allow posting, so there will be no way
>>>> to post and read newsgroups on  a  mobile anymore.
>
>>> There are in fact usenet apps for both iOSand android phones and
>>> tablets.
>
>> Which ones?
>
> NewsTap for iOS
>
> Piaohong for android
>

I tried that one for Android and it wasn't good.

[Max]

What software do you need for that? And can it be done on Windows?

[Rod Speed]

Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>>>>> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote4

>>>>>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn'trequire an

>>>>>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.

>>>>>> What's wrong with the server you are using now?

>>>>>> Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.

>>>>> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and read

>>>>> usenet newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.

>>>> For which phone OS ?

>>> I would want it run on both iPhone and Android.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> There are definitely cross-platform tools to build appson both Iphone

> and Android, using a single code-base.

Yes, but you don't realise how limiting they are.

>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter whereyou just

>>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> There are definitely cross-platform tools to build appson both Iphone

> and Android, using a single code-base.

Yes, but you don't realise how limiting they are.

>>>>> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer show
>>>>> new content nor allow posting, so there will be no way
>>>>> to post and read newsgroups on a mobile anymore.

>>>> There are in fact usenet apps for bothiOS and android phones and
>>>> tablets.

>>> Which ones?

>> NewsTap for iOS

>> Piaohong for android

> I tried that one for Android and it wasn't good.

I never said it was good.

I do use NewsTap a bit myself and it does work
but its quite slow when downloading new posts.

Not a massive problem if you use it daily now that
usenet has died in the arse so spectacularly but
wouldnt be very good if you use usenet say weekly
if you use the few remaining more active groups.

Not clear how much that is due to the lack of horsepower
in even the best smartphones. I do use it on one of those.

[Rod Speed]

Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
> Marco Moock wrote
>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

>>
>>> But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they
>>> wouldn't want to have to create an account with one of the usenet
>>> servers.

>> You can operate your own Usenet server and let them post through it.

> What software do you need for that? And can it be done on Windows?

Yes it can.

[Gary R. Schmidt]

The best for limited usage is Leafnode <www.leafnode.org> - it's much
easier to build and set up than INN
<https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/> - but you have to know what
you are doing.

Not that it's difficult, it just requires a modicum of sense.

As to windows, I don't know, maybe someone has 'ported one or done it
from scratch.

And it's much easier these days to spin up a Linux VM and do it there,
or it may be possible under WSL.

There are no doubt other small-scale NNTP servers out there, possibly
even for windows, JFGI. :-)

Cheers,
Gary B-)

[Marco Moock]

INN2 can be used for UNIX/Linux, but should also run on WSL.

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[keithr0]

On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you

don't have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and M$
.net Maui.
You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 20:42:12 +1100, keithr0 <us...@account.invalid> wrote:

> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>
>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and M$
> .net Maui.

> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

No news. Pity about how they perform.

[keithr0]

you've measured them?

[Rod Speed]

Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.

[Max]

On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latest cross-platform
framework, it lists all the companies that use it, such as Ebay and Toyota.

[Rod Speed]

Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> keithr0 <us...@account.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> keithr0 <us...@account.invalid> wrote

>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote

>>>>>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you
>>>>>>> just make on thing and it can be deployed on both.

>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

>>>>> There are several products that do just that including
>>>>> Xamarin, and M$ .net Maui.

>>>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

>>>> No news. Pity about how they perform.

>>> you've measured them?

>> Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.

> On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latestcross-platform

> framework, it lists all the companiesthat use it, such as Ebay and
> Toyota.

Wota stunning impeccable sourse.

Pity about those that don't.

[Max]

On 1/02/2024 7:49 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> keithr0 <us...@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> keithr0 <us...@account.invalid>  wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <m...@invalid.address> wrote
>
>>>>>>>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you
>>>>>>>> just make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>
>>>>>>>  Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>
>>>>>> There are several products that do just that including
>>>>>> Xamarin, and M$ .net Maui.
>
>>>>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.
>
>>>>> No news. Pity about how they perform.
>
>>>> you've measured them?
>
>>>  Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.
>
>> On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latestcross-platform
>> framework, it lists all the companiesthat use it, such as Ebay and
>> Toyota.
>
> Wota stunning impeccable sourse.
>
> Pity about those that don't.

Cross-platform must be the way forward though.

Why would anyone want to create 2 separate apps, when they can just make
1?

Google Flutter can even be deployed to web and desktop as well, apparently.

[Rod Speed]

That's far from clear

> Why would anyone want to create 2 separateapps, when they can just make
> 1?

Because they get a better result doing it that way

> Google Flutter can even be deployedto web and desktop as well,
> apparently.

How odd that fuck all actually use it like that.