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Dirty Sanchez

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Sep 21, 2004, 1:00:06 AM9/21/04
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Hi All,

Here at my office, we have recently acquired a "Gyration Ultra
Cordless Optical Suite", which is basically just an RF wireless mouse
and keyboard (www.gyration.com). I have used wireless mice before, but
not a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same receiver.

It did not take me long to notice that when I press a button on the
keyboard, the mouse will not work. I have tried changing the RF channel
on both the mouse and keyboard, and this made no difference.

Is this the norm? I'm guessing not. I'm not going to take it all
back for a refund, as the keyboard and mouse suite was only a couple of
$$ more than just buying the mouse, and the boss was extremely keen on
getting that sort of mouse, so it will not be worth the effort.

The main reason I'm asking is that I was planning on buying a
Logitech Cordless MX Duo for home, but if RF technology is so ordinary,
I may as well wait until bluetooth mice and keyboards come down in price.

Has anyone else had similar problems with RF wireless desktops from
the big brands, such as Microsoft and Logitech?

Cheers,
DS.

Damien McBain

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Sep 21, 2004, 5:34:08 AM9/21/04
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I use a cordless mouse at work (Logitech) and there is definately a small
but noticeable amount of lag. I won't use one at home because I do a little
online gaming and every microsecond counts :)
As much as having no cables is really appealing, well installed stuff is
almost as good.


Mostly Organised, Often Confused

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Sep 21, 2004, 6:00:33 AM9/21/04
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Dirty Sanchez wrote:


Yep have both a cordless keyboard and mouse and no interference
from either unit, and no time lag. Of course paid a bit for this but it
was well worth it, and no messy cables except for the receiver which
goes to both the ports on the PC.


Mattie

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Sep 21, 2004, 6:13:36 AM9/21/04
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In article <414f...@mail.netspeed.com.au>, D...@nospam.com.au
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> Has anyone else had similar problems with RF wireless desktops from
> the big brands, such as Microsoft and Logitech?
>
> Cheers,
> DS.
>
Got a MS Wireless keyboard/mouse on my main system. works fine.
only annoying thing is the function key (switches between
F5/Open Doc etc) is turned on at power up, but you get used to
hitting the unlock key before you even login.

Matt

Trevor S

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Sep 21, 2004, 8:02:02 AM9/21/04
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Dirty Sanchez <D...@nospam.com.au> wrote in
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<Snip>

> Has anyone else had similar problems with RF wireless desktops from
> the big brands, such as Microsoft and Logitech?

I have used a cordless mouse / keyboard for 5 years or so ? (Logitech) I
would never go back to those with a cord. I do not have the problems you
describe. I would like a AA NiMH rechargebales batteries in the mouse,
along with a docking station/receiver that charged them over night. but
other then that no complaints. (batteris get chewed up quickly in the
mosue, last for ages in the keyboard, I use rechargeables but it would be
nice if it recharged for me)

IMO BT doesn't lend itself all that well to keyboards/mice unless you plane
to be along way /out of sight of the receiver as the power consumption is
considerably more. BT is great for non line of site stuff eg PDA/Phone/GPS
etc.

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Geoffw

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Sep 21, 2004, 8:40:10 AM9/21/04
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question here

how do you deal with getting into the bios or booting from
CD or DOS eg I assume the keyboard / mouse would have to be
recognised by the MB ? or is it only recognised by the OS ?

thanks

Geoff

Mike Mackenzie

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Sep 21, 2004, 9:08:04 AM9/21/04
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I recently started using a Creative wireless Keyboard/mouse.
Location of the wireless base seems to be critical. When I first
tried it some of the keys only worked intermittently. The base was
next to a USB card reader so separated them by about 20 cm and now OK.

Mike

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Mike Mackenzie

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Sep 21, 2004, 9:12:51 AM9/21/04
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"Geoffw" <gwi...@hotmail.com> wrote (in part):

>how do you deal with getting into the bios or booting from
>CD or DOS eg I assume the keyboard / mouse would have to be
>recognised by the MB ? or is it only recognised by the OS ?

You need to go into the BIOS setup and find the item which says
"enable USB keyboard and mouse on start", or something similar.

Mike

Luke

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Sep 21, 2004, 9:15:45 AM9/21/04
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Mike Mackenzie wrote:

Ive got the MX Duo and the only problem Ive had is forgetting to charge
up the mouse and having the batteries run out on me. The mouse takes a
little getting used to as it quite large and heavy but its so much nicer
to use than any other mouse Ive used once you get to it. I find the
Logitech gear also has a very different feel to Microsoft gear... the
construction feels alot more solid and the buttons have a better feel.

Little TeaPot

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Sep 21, 2004, 11:06:32 AM9/21/04
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Me do Logitech MX Duo, mouse and keyboard< LOVE IT :)

Rod Speed

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Sep 21, 2004, 11:55:18 AM9/21/04
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Dirty Sanchez <D...@nospam.com.au> wrote in
message news:414f...@mail.netspeed.com.au...

> Here at my office, we have recently acquired a "Gyration Ultra Cordless Optical Suite", which is basically just an RF wireless
> mouse and keyboard (www.gyration.com). I have used wireless mice before, but not a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same
> receiver.

> It did not take me long to notice that when I press a button on the keyboard, the mouse will not work. I have tried changing the
> RF channel on both the mouse and keyboard, and this made no difference.

> Is this the norm? I'm guessing not.

Nope. You dont get that effect with a decent pair like the Logitech Cordless MX Duo

> I'm not going to take it all back for a refund, as the keyboard and mouse suite was only a couple of $$ more than just buying the
> mouse, and the boss was extremely keen on getting that sort of mouse, so it will not be worth the effort.

> The main reason I'm asking is that I was planning on buying a Logitech Cordless MX Duo for home, but if RF technology is so
> ordinary, I may as well wait until bluetooth mice and keyboards come down in price.

Its fine. Loverly system.

Only real downside I have found with it is that the letters
do wear off the keytops if you use the keyboard a lot.

> Has anyone else had similar problems with RF wireless desktops from the big brands, such as Microsoft and Logitech?

Nope.


Rod Speed

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:10:08 PM9/21/04
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"Geoffw" <gwi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2raljeF...@uni-berlin.de...

>
> "Trevor S" <bi...@gates.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns956BE0255DF...@130.133.1.4...
>> Dirty Sanchez <D...@nospam.com.au> wrote in
>> news:414f...@mail.netspeed.com.au:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>> > Has anyone else had similar problems with RF wireless
> desktops from
>> > the big brands, such as Microsoft and Logitech?
>>
>> I have used a cordless mouse / keyboard for 5 years or so
> ? (Logitech) I
>> would never go back to those with a cord. I do not have
> the problems you
>> describe. I would like a AA NiMH rechargebales batteries
> in the mouse,
>> along with a docking station/receiver that charged them
> over night. but
>> other then that no complaints. (batteris get chewed up
> quickly in the
>> mosue, last for ages in the keyboard, I use rechargeables
> but it would be
>> nice if it recharged for me)

The later Logitech mice do have the recharger/receiver.
Like the Cordless MS Duo and MX700.

Only real downside is that they aint cheap at all.

>> IMO BT doesn't lend itself all that well to keyboards/mice
> unless you plane
>> to be along way /out of sight of the receiver as the power
> consumption is
>> considerably more. BT is great for non line of site stuff
> eg PDA/Phone/GPS
>> etc.

> question here

How dare you ?

> how do you deal with getting into the bios or booting
> from CD or DOS eg I assume the keyboard / mouse
> would have to be recognised by the MB ?

Yes, and most MBs do recognise a USB keyboard and mouse.

> or is it only recognised by the OS ?

Nope.


Rod Speed

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:14:32 PM9/21/04
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"Luke" <ra...@arach.net.au> wrote in message news:4150...@funnel.arach.net.au...

> Mike Mackenzie wrote:
>
>> I recently started using a Creative wireless Keyboard/mouse.
>> Location of the wireless base seems to be critical. When I first
>> tried it some of the keys only worked intermittently. The base was
>> next to a USB card reader so separated them by about 20 cm and now OK.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dirty Sanchez <D...@nospam.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>> Here at my office, we have recently acquired a "Gyration Ultra Cordless Optical Suite", which is basically just an RF wireless
>>> mouse and keyboard (www.gyration.com). I have used wireless mice before, but not a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the
>>> same receiver.
>>>
>>> It did not take me long to notice that when I press a button on the keyboard, the mouse will not work. I have tried changing
>>> the RF channel on both the mouse and keyboard, and this made no difference.
>>>
>>> Is this the norm? I'm guessing not. I'm not going to take it all back for a refund, as the keyboard and mouse suite was only
>>> a couple of $$ more than just buying the mouse, and the boss was extremely keen on getting that sort of mouse, so it will not be
>>> worth the effort.
>>>
>>> The main reason I'm asking is that I was planning on buying a Logitech Cordless MX Duo for home, but if RF technology is so
>>> ordinary, I may as well wait until bluetooth mice and keyboards come down in price.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had similar problems with RF wireless desktops from the big brands, such as Microsoft and Logitech?

> Ive got the MX Duo and the only problem Ive had is forgetting to charge up the mouse and having the batteries run out on me.

Yeah, tho you get a lot of time after it warns that the batterys are low,
at least half a day of active continuous use before it stops working.

And you can charge it enough to get the light off in only a short time,
like long enough to get a coffee or shower etc, let alone lunch etc.

> The mouse takes a little getting used to as it quite large and heavy but its so much nicer to use than any other mouse Ive used
> once you get to it.

Yeah, I love it. My only real reservation is that its quite expensive
and easy to drop given that its cordless and I have hard floors.

> I find the Logitech gear also has a very different feel to Microsoft gear... the construction feels alot more solid and the
> buttons have a better feel.

Yeah, and I love the extra buttons on the mouse. Main
downside is that its a real pain to use a conventional mouse
without those buttons again if you use different PCs much.


BenOne©

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Sep 21, 2004, 6:30:03 PM9/21/04
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Dirty Sanchez wrote:

I don't have that problem with my $50 Labtec wireless keyboard and mouse combo.

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Geoffw

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Sep 22, 2004, 2:23:19 AM9/22/04
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"Rod Speed" <rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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sometimes a daring type !


>
> > how do you deal with getting into the bios or booting
> > from CD or DOS eg I assume the keyboard / mouse
> > would have to be recognised by the MB ?
>
> Yes, and most MBs do recognise a USB keyboard and mouse.
>
> > or is it only recognised by the OS ?
>
> Nope.

thanks for advice

Geoff

>
>


Black Adder

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Sep 22, 2004, 6:34:23 AM9/22/04
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I saw a setup in a medical practice where to computers where back to back
with a wall seperating them.

A mouse on one side of the wall was affecting the receiver on the other side
of the wall. It was quite amusing.

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Geoffw

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Sep 22, 2004, 7:50:11 AM9/22/04
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> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:12:51 +1000, Mike Mackenzie wrote:
>
> > "Geoffw" <gwi...@hotmail.com> wrote (in part):
> >
> >>how do you deal with getting into the bios or booting
from
> >>CD or DOS eg I assume the keyboard / mouse would have to
be
> >>recognised by the MB ? or is it only recognised by the
OS ?
> >
> > You need to go into the BIOS setup and find the item
which says
> > "enable USB keyboard and mouse on start", or something
similar.
> >
> > Mike
>
> "Legacy USB support"

thanks again, might give it a try

Geoff


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Ernest

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Sep 22, 2004, 9:14:03 AM9/22/04
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:00:06 +1000, Dirty Sanchez <D...@nospam.com.au>
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My son uses a logitec set and it does not behave like that,
I have an Aopen set that uses rechargeable batteries
and the radio receiver unit is the battery charger, son
wants to swap - told him to buy his own.

Many of these units are PS2, skip by them and buy the
USB versions (unless your computer does not have USB)
as they are better for hot swapping if you have trouble
with the batteries as some do. I also walk mine between
rooms at times and being USB it just plugs and runs.

Deadly Ernest

@bywater.net.au

(my new keyboard, with small keys,
accepts full responsibility for all
typographical and spelling errors)

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