mobile number allocation
Matthew McDonald
s t e p h e n s @ w o r l d.takeoffthis.n e t (Stephen Sharpley) wrote:
>
>I have two queries concerning the allocation of numbers for new
>digital mobile connections:
>
>1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
>
>2. Even if the answer to 1. is no, is it nonetheless possible for a
>carrier to figure out who your carrier is just from your number?
0411, 0412, 0413 is optus, 0414, 0415, 0416 is Vodafone, 0417, 0418,
0419 is Telstra.
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Jonathan Potter
Stephen Sharpley wrote:
> 1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
Yes. 0411, 0412 and 0413 are Optus, 0414, 0415 and 0416 are Vodafone,
and 0417, 0418 and 0419 are Telstra.
Matt, a good question for for FAQ :)
Jon
Joshua Rowe
Are there any plans to make it easier for people to keep their digital
mobile phone numbers when they change from one provider to another?
Josh
firstn...@mobileworld.org (Matthew McDonald) writes:
>s t e p h e n s @ w o r l d.takeoffthis.n e t (Stephen Sharpley) wrote:
>>
>>I have two queries concerning the allocation of numbers for new
>>digital mobile connections:
>>
>>1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
>>
>>2. Even if the answer to 1. is no, is it nonetheless possible for a
>>carrier to figure out who your carrier is just from your number?
>0411, 0412, 0413 is optus, 0414, 0415, 0416 is Vodafone, 0417, 0418,
>0419 is Telstra.
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Jason Fong
With Vodafone you can switch from one service provider to another and
keep your number. Both service providers need to sign an authority to
transfer number form. At least that's what I did, I changed from
Spectrum Global over to Vodac. Were no problems at all, I would have
been off air for half a day at the most.
I don't think the other networks have such a thing.
Regards, Jason
Tim
Yes the numbers are preset to certern carries
Optus 0411-0412
VodaFone 0415-0416
Telstra 0418-0419
I don`t know who has 0410 or 0417.
If any one has eighter of these please let me know.
Regards
Tim
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Daniel Meijer
Stephen Sharpley (step...@world.takeoffthis.net) wrote:
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: I have two queries concerning the allocation of numbers for new
: digital mobile connections::
: 1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
: 2. Even if the answer to 1. is no, is it nonetheless possible for a
: carrier to figure out who your carrier is just from your number?
Do you mean the 041x prefixes of the ranges withing them? On Optus, 0411
is generally a reseller, 0412 is Optus itself, and 0413 are the new optus
pre-paid SIMs. Within 0412, certain ranges (such as the 8xx xxx) may be
allocated to resellers as well. So if you know enough, you can even pick
which service provider the phone is on.
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Michael Ellis
: I have two queries concerning the allocation of numbers for new
: digital mobile connections:
: 1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
0411, 0412, 0413 to Optus
0414, 0415, 0416 Voda
0417, 0418, 0419 Telstra
: 2. Even if the answer to 1. is no, is it nonetheless possible for a
: carrier to figure out who your carrier is just from your number?
Because of the above, giving your mobile number out shows your carrier.
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Alan Wright
In article <345863...@fan.net.au>, Tim <mrv...@fan.net.au> wrote:
>Yes the numbers are preset to certern carries
>
>Optus 0411-0412
+ 0413
>VodaFone 0415-0416
+ 0414
>Telstra 0418-0419
+ 0417
>
>I don`t know who has 0410 or 0417.
>If any one has eighter of these please let me know.
>
>Regards
>Tim
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David Clayton
Joshua Rowe <jo...@sanctum.com.au> contributed the following:
>Are there any plans to make it easier for people to keep their digital
>mobile phone numbers when they change from one provider to another?
>
Yes, "Number Portability" for Mobile and eventually all services is
planned in Australia.
But don't hold your breath as the incumbent players will drag their feet
as much as they can to prevent them from "suffering" the increased
competition that this will eventually provide.
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Anthony Power
Tim wrote:
> Yes the numbers are preset to certern carries
>
> Optus 0411-0412
> VodaFone 0415-0416
Also 0414Not sure about 0415 though.
> Telstra 0418-0419
>
> I don`t know who has 0410
Don't think it's available.
> or 0417.
Telstra
> If any one has eighter of these please let me know.
>
> Regards
> Tim
>
Richard Petersen
Richard Petersen wrote:
> In answer to the original question, yes, you can transfer from one MobileNet
> service provider to another while not on a contract
Sorry... typo. I meant WHILE on a contract. It can take some time to have the
transfer completed though, esp going from SP back to Telstra (sometimes months).
Richard
Richard Petersen
Angus Mann wrote:
> Crap. Mobilenet doesn't even *have* service providers - it's all done my
> Mobilenet, and you can now keep your number for new contract connections.
>
Crap. Every heard of sevice providers like UTC (United Telecommunications),
PacStar MobileEasy, Axicorp or Corptel? UTC, in particular, is large as all
connections made through Strathfield or Brisbane Car Sound are connected through
UTC.
In answer to the original question, yes, you can transfer from one MobileNet
service provider to another while not on a contract, and it doesn't cost you
anything. You get to keep your number. MobileNet actually transfered about 10%
of its AMPS database (RACE) to them about a year ago, which would make them one
of the largest SPs in Aust.... and you haven't heard of them Angus?....
Matthew McDonald
Anthony Power <antp...@tpgi.com.auNO-SPAM> wrote:
>Tim wrote:
>
>> Yes the numbers are preset to certern carries
>>
>> Optus 0411-0412
>> VodaFone 0415-0416
>
>Also 0414Not sure about 0415 though.
>
>> Telstra 0418-0419
>>
>> I don`t know who has 0410
>
>Don't think it's available.
>
>> or 0417.
>
>Telstra
Once again... (and this WILL be in the FAQ)
3.5 General
3.5.1 What numbers are allocated to who?
Currently the situation is this
0411, 0412, 0413 is Optus
0411 is normally a reseller, 0412 is Optus, 0413 are pre paid Sims. Some
numbers like 0412 8XX XXX are allocated to service providers.
0414, 0415, 0416 is Vodafone
Generally numbers above 0416 23XXXX are voicemail, 0415 is for analogue
conversions and numbers below 0414 23XXXX are reserved.
0417, 0418, 0419 is Telstra
Joshua Walmsley
Matthew McDonald wrote:
> 0411, 0412, 0413 is optus, 0414, 0415, 0416 is Vodafone, 0417, 0418,
> 0419 is Telstra.
I was told recently that there is also 0410 which is a telstra range
reserved for some as jet unreleased services.
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> :
> Crap. Mobilenet doesn't even *have* service providers - it's all done
> my
> Mobilenet, and you can now keep your number for new contract
> connections.
Beep wrong! They actually do have them there is Corptel who do PSTN,
GSM. and
Also United Telecoms which is owned by some dealers
Bernd Felsche
In <3457a0d...@news.sv.net.au>
firstn...@mobileworld.org (Matthew McDonald) writes:
>s t e p h e n s @ w o r l d.takeoffthis.n e t (Stephen Sharpley) wrote:
>>I have two queries concerning the allocation of numbers for new
>>digital mobile connections:
>>1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
>>
>>2. Even if the answer to 1. is no, is it nonetheless possible for a
>>carrier to figure out who your carrier is just from your number?
>0411, 0412, 0413 is optus, 0414, 0415, 0416 is Vodafone, 0417, 0418,
>0419 is Telstra.
Who's the missing one (0410)?
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Daniel Meijer
Jason Fong (jmf...@netspace.net.au) wrote:
: With Vodafone you can switch from one service provider to another and
: keep your number. Both service providers need to sign an authority to
: transfer number form. At least that's what I did, I changed from
: Spectrum Global over to Vodac. Were no problems at all, I would have
: been off air for half a day at the most.
:
: I don't think the other networks have such a thing.
Optus do.
Jonathan Potter
Matthew McDonald wrote:
> numbers like 0412 8XX XXX are allocated to service providers.
This is obviously not a hard and fast rule as I have an 0412 8xxxxx
number, and I have it direct with Optus (no S.P.)
Jon
Michael Ellis
: Yes, "Number Portability" for Mobile and eventually all services is
: planned in Australia.
: But don't hold your breath as the incumbent players will drag their feet
: as much as they can to prevent them from "suffering" the increased
: competition that this will eventually provide.
I believe Austel (ACA) gave Telstra a deadline of 1 June 1998 for landline
number portability.
Michael Ellis
: > Yes the numbers are preset to certern carries
: >
: > Optus 0411-0412
: > VodaFone 0415-0416
: Also 0414Not sure about 0415 though.
0415 is currently being used to entice analogue users over. Don't know why
Vodafone weren't doing this 5 years ago ...
Michael Ellis
: Crap. Mobilenet doesn't even *have* service providers - it's all done my
: Mobilenet, and you can now keep your number for new contract connections.
Crap yourself. MobileNet does have service providers - UTC for example.
Ring 13 16 21 if you don't believe me.
And customers can be transferred from UTC or any other service provider
back to MobileNet at no charge.
MobileNet service providers buy airtime off Telstra and have to provide
their own billing and 018 018 111 type services.
Michael Ellis
: Optus 0411-0412
: VodaFone 0415-0416
: Telstra 0418-0419
: I don`t know who has 0410 or 0417.
: If any one has eighter of these please let me know.
Telstra have 0417 and have been using it for about a year.
ie. 0417 334 108 is one of my Telstra numbers.
Telstra have allocated up to 0417 599 xxx at least by this stage.
0410 doesn't exist.
Daniel Lewkovitz
s960...@westgate.vut.edu.au (Michael Ellis) writes:
>Because of the above, giving your mobile number out shows your carrier.
Bear in mind however, that your carrier and your PROVIDER could be two seperate things. your phone number gives no ondication of the provider.
For example, someone connected via Hutchison (who use Optus as their carrier) would have an 0411 or 0412 (Optus) number.
Evan Davis
In article <EIzzM...@metapro.com._trap.spam_.au>, ber...@metapro.com._trap.spam_.au (Bernd Felsche) wrote:
>In <3457a0d...@news.sv.net.au>
> firstn...@mobileworld.org (Matthew McDonald) writes:
>
>>s t e p h e n s @ w o r l d.takeoffthis.n e t (Stephen Sharpley) wrote:
>
>>>I have two queries concerning the allocation of numbers for new
>>>digital mobile connections:
>
>>>1. Are there ranges of numbers pre-allocated for each carrier?
>>>
>>>2. Even if the answer to 1. is no, is it nonetheless possible for a
>>>carrier to figure out who your carrier is just from your number?
>
>>0411, 0412, 0413 is optus, 0414, 0415, 0416 is Vodafone, 0417, 0418,
>>0419 is Telstra.
>
>Who's the missing one (0410)?
04101 and 04102 are allocated to AAPT. Whether they will actually use it is
another matter.
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Michael Ellis
: 04101 and 04102 are allocated to AAPT. Whether they will actually use it is
: another matter.
What an interesting piece of trivia ... where did this come from ???
Are there any other allocations apart from 0411/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 ???