Australia Post shows what NBN will be like

[ALP FauxPlus]

"Australia Post has pulled its Digital MailBox service offline after
wrestling with technical issues since its launch on Tuesday evening.

The *free service* was announced in March and formally *launched* by
Communications Minister Stephen Conroy last week.
...
But consumers have been *unable to access* Digital MailBoxes so far,
with a two-page registration process collecting details but redirecting
users to the wrong page on Wednesday".

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx

Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
business of Digital mail?

Australia Post is granted a monopoly over *physical* mail (parcels and
letters less than a certain size) yet last month they were attacking in
court a private company which was also launching a digital mail service.

SINCE WHEN DOES THE GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY EXTEND TO DIGITAL SERVICES?

By launching a "free service", Australia Post are using their market
power to destroy competitors in this space. No doubt when there are no
competitors left, they will start charging for it.

WHY IS AUSTRALIA POST NOT SUBJECT TO THE COMPETITION LAWS OF AUSTRALIA?
WHERE IS THE ACCC?

Typical of a government-run enterprise, it has turned pear-shaped anyway
- a foretaste of Conroy's disastrous NBN?

The Gillard ALP are like a plague of marxist parasites - slowly but
surely taking over Australia and turning us all into Gubbermint employees.




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How much new law is there every year?
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[Petzl]

added "aus.computers" to cross post

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:48:37 +1100, ALP FauxPlus
<gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:

>
>http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx
>
>Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
>business of Digital mail?

Looks like a good idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZDlikCu52Rc
So they are having to work out some bugs
Although I doubt if this has come from the Labor party
The "incompetence" though shows why Australia needs top quality
broadband to get a lot more education in this field.

I had give up on Australia's capabilities in providing Internet in the
90's and choose SpamCop email to handle my email business.
Unfortunately Cisco have taken it over and don't seem to be yet able
to handle IPV6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
SpamCop email are recently failing security because of successful
phishing emails and people (a lot of children are given these accounts
to keep Internet nasties away). Sent email is now being blocked by
providers

A secure spam free email account is a top idea.
Not yet done any where else in the world.
Should alone be worth billions (it won't continue to be "free" once
working)
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

[ALP FauxPlus]

On 5/11/2012 10:36 AM, Petzl wrote:
> added "aus.computers" to cross post
>
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:48:37 +1100, ALP FauxPlus
> <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx
>>
>> Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
>> business of Digital mail?
>
> Looks like a good idea
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZDlikCu52Rc

Digital mail is a brilliant idea.

You have missed the point completely:
1. Why does this need to be provided by Government?
2. Why is AP abusing it's market power by offering it as a 'free
service' and why hasn't the ACCC acted in consumers interests?

No wonder you like Gillard - her mission is and always was for a
socialist Australia.

Julia Gillard's radical past

"Our new Prime Minister is not the mainstream, centrist leader that the
media want us to think she is. Julia Gillard comes with a lot of
ideological baggage from her radical-left past.
...
From 1984 until 1993, Ms Gillard became a prominent figure in the
militant left Socialist Forum, which had recently been formed by
disaffected members of the Communist Party of Australia and Labor's
left-wing. It sought, among other things, to remove Australia from the
ANZUS alliance and to twin Melbourne with Leningrad (re-named St
Petersburg since the fall of communism).

It is worth remembering, however, what she once wrote for the Socialist
Forum on how the extreme Left could advance its agenda by giving
'strategic support for Labor governments'".

http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/2010/08/julia-gillard-downplays-her-radical-past.html

She has completely fooled all the idiots in Labor - well maybe not all -
not Tanner and McLelland.

http://karenhancock.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/wolf_in_sheeps_clothing.jpg

> So they are having to work out some bugs
> Although I doubt if this has come from the Labor party
> The "incompetence" though shows why Australia needs top quality
> broadband to get a lot more education in this field.

The best way to get 'top quality' anything is to keep it out of the
hands of the inept ALP.

>
> I had give up on Australia's capabilities in providing Internet in the
> 90's and choose SpamCop email to handle my email business.

WTF are you on about?

'Australia's capabilities' suggests an implicit faith that the
Gubbermint will deliver everything you need. So you're a marxist at heart.


(rest ignored - tech nonsense)

> Unfortunately Cisco have taken it over and don't seem to be yet able
> to handle IPV6.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
> SpamCop email are recently failing security because of successful
> phishing emails and people (a lot of children are given these accounts
> to keep Internet nasties away). Sent email is now being blocked by
> providers
>
> A secure spam free email account is a top idea.
> Not yet done any where else in the world.
> Should alone be worth billions (it won't continue to be "free" once
> working)
>


--

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ALP FauxPlus wrote:

> On 5/11/2012 10:36 AM, Petzl wrote:
> > added "aus.computers" to cross post
> >
> > On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:48:37 +1100, ALP FauxPlus
> ><gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-
> > > mailbox-offline.aspx
> > >
> > > Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
> > > business of Digital mail?
> >
> > Looks like a good idea
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZDlikCu52Rc
>
> Digital mail is a brilliant idea.
>
> You have missed the point completely:
> 1. Why does this need to be provided by Government?
> 2. Why is AP abusing it's market power by offering it as a 'free
> service' and why hasn't the ACCC acted in consumers interests?
>
> No wonder you like Gillard - her mission is and always was for a
> socialist Australia.
>
>

> <snip><end snip>
> >


Yes totally agree, it doesn't have to have anything to do with Govt.

Any company could do this.


--

[Petzl]

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:07:56 +1100, ALP FauxPlus

<gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:

>On 5/11/2012 10:36 AM, Petzl wrote:
>> added "aus.computers" to cross post
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:48:37 +1100, ALP FauxPlus
>> <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx
>>>
>>> Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
>>> business of Digital mail?
>>
>> Looks like a good idea
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZDlikCu52Rc
>
>Digital mail is a brilliant idea.
>
>You have missed the point completely:
>1. Why does this need to be provided by Government?
>2. Why is AP abusing it's market power by offering it as a 'free
>service' and why hasn't the ACCC acted in consumers interests?

This idea has nothing to do with Gillard Labor no doubt they are
trying to link to a good idea probably because as far as brilliance
stakes go neither Gillard Labor or Abbott Liberal show any

Personally I hate them both like most of Australia
http://tinyurl.com/anamdgf
Abbott and Gillard appear to me and most voters the worst stench to
ever arise from politics!
The "Green's" again look like deciding who will run government because
of it. Probably get a cabinet position maybe more
--
Petzl
In Australia Christianity is important not because of the power it wields, but because of the power it denies others!
The only Legally defined God in Australia is our Christian God, whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
Our Christian Constitution demands our political representatives need to be able to make oaths to our legally defined Christian God

[Gordon Levi]

ALP FauxPlus <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:

>"Australia Post has pulled its Digital MailBox service offline after
>wrestling with technical issues since its launch on Tuesday evening.
>
>The *free service* was announced in March and formally *launched* by
>Communications Minister Stephen Conroy last week.
> ...
>But consumers have been *unable to access* Digital MailBoxes so far,
>with a two-page registration process collecting details but redirecting
>users to the wrong page on Wednesday".
>
>http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx
>
>Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
>business of Digital mail?

Why wouldn't the answer to that be a resounding "yes"? Australia Post
already competes in areas way outside the point to point delivery of
letters including bill payments, branch banking and large scale order
fu. A monopoly in one service should not restrict it to only that
service.

>Australia Post is granted a monopoly over *physical* mail (parcels and
>letters less than a certain size) yet last month they were attacking in
>court a private company which was also launching a digital mail service.

Their only objection was to the name chosen by Digital Post because it
is easily confused with Australia Post's name for their service.

>SINCE WHEN DOES THE GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY EXTEND TO DIGITAL SERVICES?
>
>By launching a "free service", Australia Post are using their market
>power to destroy competitors in this space. No doubt when there are no
>competitors left, they will start charging for it.

Digital Post is proceeding with their plan to set up a competing
service <https://digitalpost.com.au/> and it is also free.

>
>
>WHY IS AUSTRALIA POST NOT SUBJECT TO THE COMPETITION LAWS OF AUSTRALIA?

IT IS!

>WHERE IS THE ACCC?

What competition laws has Australia Post broken?

[ALP FauxPlus]

On 5/11/2012 4:38 PM, Gordon Levi wrote:
> ALP FauxPlus <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>
>> "Australia Post has pulled its Digital MailBox service offline after
>> wrestling with technical issues since its launch on Tuesday evening.
>>
>> The *free service* was announced in March and formally *launched* by
>> Communications Minister Stephen Conroy last week.
>> ...
>> But consumers have been *unable to access* Digital MailBoxes so far,
>> with a two-page registration process collecting details but redirecting
>> users to the wrong page on Wednesday".
>>
>> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx
>>
>> Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
>> business of Digital mail?
>
> Why wouldn't the answer to that be a resounding "yes"? Australia Post
> already competes in areas way outside the point to point delivery of
> letters including bill payments, branch banking and large scale order
> fu. A monopoly in one service should not restrict it to only that
> service.

USSA

>
>> Australia Post is granted a monopoly over *physical* mail (parcels and
>> letters less than a certain size) yet last month they were attacking in
>> court a private company which was also launching a digital mail service.
>
> Their only objection was to the name chosen by Digital Post because it
> is easily confused with Australia Post's name for their service.
>> SINCE WHEN DOES THE GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY EXTEND TO DIGITAL SERVICES?
>>
>> By launching a "free service", Australia Post are using their market
>> power to destroy competitors in this space. No doubt when there are no
>> competitors left, they will start charging for it.
>
> Digital Post is proceeding with their plan to set up a competing
> service <https://digitalpost.com.au/> and it is also free.
>>
>>
>> WHY IS AUSTRALIA POST NOT SUBJECT TO THE COMPETITION LAWS OF AUSTRALIA?
>
> IT IS!
>
>> WHERE IS THE ACCC?
>
> What competition laws has Australia Post broken?
>
>
>>
>> Typical of a government-run enterprise, it has turned pear-shaped anyway
>> - a foretaste of Conroy's disastrous NBN?
>>
>> The Gillard ALP are like a plague of marxist parasites - slowly but
>> surely taking over Australia and turning us all into Gubbermint employees.

[Rod Speed]

ALP FauxPlus <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote
> Pretzl wrote

>> ALP FauxPlus <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote

>>> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/321749,australia-post-pulls-digital-mailbox-offline.aspx

>>> Has anyone asked why Australia Post is being allowed to enter the
>>> business of Digital mail?

Nope, because the answer is obvious.

>> Looks like a good idea
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZDlikCu52Rc

> Digital mail is a brilliant idea.

> You have missed the point completely:
> 1. Why does this need to be provided by Government?

It doesn’t. AP aint the only one planning to provide it.

> 2. Why is AP abusing it's market power

It isn't, any more than it does with doing electronic payments either.

> by offering it as a 'free service'

The others will be doing that too.

> and why hasn't the ACCC acted in consumers interests?

Because legally they get no say what so ever on that.

[Rod Speed]

"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eebe98trevn18dkr6...@4ax.com...

Have fun explaining why they didn't in NSW or Victoria or Queensland.

> Probably get a cabinet position maybe more

Have fun explaining why they didn't in NSW or Victoria or Queensland.

[Petzl]

When it comes to secure documents it's not a good idea to just hand
this info over to just anyone on the internet. Australia Post I think
most see as honest as well as being government run

I need to see more details as to whats on offer?
It may be that this is not a "email" service just a "webmail" type
link

[Petzl]

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:56:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> Personally I hate them both like most of Australia
>> http://tinyurl.com/anamdgf
>> Abbott and Gillard appear to me and most voters the worst stench to
>> ever arise from politics!
>
>> The "Green's" again look like deciding who will run government because of
>> it.
>
>Have fun explaining why they didn't in NSW or Victoria or Queensland.
>

You think Green's did or do not split the Labor vote?

>> Probably get a cabinet position maybe more
>
>Have fun explaining why they didn't in NSW or Victoria or Queensland.
>

You think "Green" voters would vote coalition?
--
Petzl
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/01/1093938951024.html

[Rod Speed]

Pretzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote

> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Personally I hate them both like most of Australia
>>> http://tinyurl.com/anamdgf

>>> Abbott and Gillard appear to me and most voters
>>> the worst stench to ever arise from politics!

>>> The "Green's" again look like deciding
>>> who will run government because of it.

>> Have fun explaining why they didn't in NSW or Victoria or Queensland.

> You think Green's did or do not split the Labor vote?

They certainly didn't not get to decide who runs govt
in any of those places, essentially because Labor lost
in a landslide, just like they will federally, you watch.

>>> Probably get a cabinet position maybe more

>> Have fun explaining why they didn't in NSW or Victoria or Queensland.

> You think "Green" voters would vote coalition?

They are in fact completely irrelevant to all those results.