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ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 5:23:47 AM11/7/12
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On 7/11/2012 8:06 PM, Swampfox wrote:
> On 7/11/2012 4:08 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>> On 7/11/2012 4:01 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2012 3:20 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/2012 2:33 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>>>>> On 7/11/2012 11:26 AM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/11/2012 11:05 AM, Swampfox wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/11/2012 10:48 AM, | || ||| ||||| || | wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Swampfox" <noi...@whocares.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:k7alqp$4va$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the NBN SuperFastBroadband, as they call it on their
>>>>>>>> website, is already being
>>>>>>>> exceeded ten fold by real 1Gbps rollouts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so it's not a Ferrari, more like a Lexus, but the Coalition
>>>>>>> plan is
>>>>>>> still a clapped out Falcon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's more like buying a house at $800k, mortgaging yourself to the
>>>>>> hilt
>>>>>> and then watching the house price fall to $200k.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, you've lost me.
>>>>> It must be the new nym.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They don't even talk about privatising the NBN anymore - they've given
>>>> up that pretence - but if they did finish it (unlikely) and they did
>>>> sell it off they wouldn't get more than $10b or so.
>>>
>>> And so says the great guru of usenet, who has now morphed into a
>>> telecommunications network broker.
>>>
>>> You must have missed this:
>>> "In the 2010 corporate plan our assumptions were that the 12:1 service
>>> would be something like about 53 or 54 per cent."
>>> With the higher prices NBN Co charges ISPs to provide the faster speed
>>> tiers to their customers, the potential revenues the network will
>>> generate will be much greater than first anticipated."
>>>
>>> So it will be worth more, not less.
>>> Numbskull.
>>
>> Pity about the anaemic takeup rate eh?
>> They assumed 93%.
>
> No they didn't.
> More of your lies.
Actually the implementation plan assumed 93% takeup of fibre in ADSL
zones. The business plan assumed a more conservative 70% takeup.
No matter, Tasmania (which has had NBN since the ALP monkeys started
destroying our treasury) has takeup of less than 20%, which is less than
one third of plan. IOW, the Capex invested per customer has blown out by
over 200%!
The immediately discounts the 'value' of the NBN by 2/3. Not that the
*lying* ALP ever intended to float it anyway.
"In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
100 customers in a year!!!
Multiple choice:
WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
5. All of the above
>
> >They also forgot that 30% of people don't *want*
>> internet *ever* plus the growing youth segment, who don't want fixed
>> line *ever*. They'll be lucky to get 30% takeup - and that means the
>> business is worth less than a third of their break-even assumptions - or
>> less. $10b if you're lucky.
>>
>> Now run along and play with your lego.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original NBN tender was $8.7b. The Affordable Broadband Alliance
>>>>>> suggested *half* of that. Only a total moron then dismisses the
>>>>>> tender
>>>>>> responses as 'not value for money' and then announces a $37b 'plan'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have they raised the anaemic takeup rate above 20% yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they ever get into government, which thankfully is looking less
>>>>>>> likely, scrap FTTH and install FTTC, then 10 of 15 years down the
>>>>>>> road
>>>>>>> decide we need to upgrade, what happens?
>>>>>>> Are we left with tens of thousands of very expensive paper weights
>>>>>>> sitting on kerb sides all over the country?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Roozendal, former ALP Roads minister...
"As the minister for roads, I really wasn't au fait with the intimate
details of how to register a vehicle"
Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"
Tanya Plibersek...
...promised voters that there would be "no super-database that contains
all the information about a person"
Sir Isaac Newton...
"I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men"
(Newton died in 1727 so he had never met any of the Greens)
Richardson...
"what will be remembered from Tuesday's debate is that Abbott sought to
remove Slipper from office while Gillard sought to keep him"
Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".
How much new law is there every year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lePrBUHihKI
Joyce...
"It was the prime minister herself who, of her own volition, decided to
go out and grab the wheelie bin and put it back in the kitchen"
NSW Opposition Leader John Robertson...
"I don't believe people in the Labor Party are sexist"
Barnaby Joyce...
"IF YOU DO NOT MANAGE DEBT, DEBT MANAGES YOU"
> On 7/11/2012 4:08 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>> On 7/11/2012 4:01 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2012 3:20 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/2012 2:33 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>>>>> On 7/11/2012 11:26 AM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/11/2012 11:05 AM, Swampfox wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/11/2012 10:48 AM, | || ||| ||||| || | wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Swampfox" <noi...@whocares.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:k7alqp$4va$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the NBN SuperFastBroadband, as they call it on their
>>>>>>>> website, is already being
>>>>>>>> exceeded ten fold by real 1Gbps rollouts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so it's not a Ferrari, more like a Lexus, but the Coalition
>>>>>>> plan is
>>>>>>> still a clapped out Falcon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's more like buying a house at $800k, mortgaging yourself to the
>>>>>> hilt
>>>>>> and then watching the house price fall to $200k.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, you've lost me.
>>>>> It must be the new nym.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They don't even talk about privatising the NBN anymore - they've given
>>>> up that pretence - but if they did finish it (unlikely) and they did
>>>> sell it off they wouldn't get more than $10b or so.
>>>
>>> And so says the great guru of usenet, who has now morphed into a
>>> telecommunications network broker.
>>>
>>> You must have missed this:
>>> "In the 2010 corporate plan our assumptions were that the 12:1 service
>>> would be something like about 53 or 54 per cent."
>>> With the higher prices NBN Co charges ISPs to provide the faster speed
>>> tiers to their customers, the potential revenues the network will
>>> generate will be much greater than first anticipated."
>>>
>>> So it will be worth more, not less.
>>> Numbskull.
>>
>> Pity about the anaemic takeup rate eh?
>> They assumed 93%.
>
> No they didn't.
> More of your lies.
Actually the implementation plan assumed 93% takeup of fibre in ADSL
zones. The business plan assumed a more conservative 70% takeup.
No matter, Tasmania (which has had NBN since the ALP monkeys started
destroying our treasury) has takeup of less than 20%, which is less than
one third of plan. IOW, the Capex invested per customer has blown out by
over 200%!
The immediately discounts the 'value' of the NBN by 2/3. Not that the
*lying* ALP ever intended to float it anyway.
"In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
100 customers in a year!!!
Multiple choice:
WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
5. All of the above
>
> >They also forgot that 30% of people don't *want*
>> internet *ever* plus the growing youth segment, who don't want fixed
>> line *ever*. They'll be lucky to get 30% takeup - and that means the
>> business is worth less than a third of their break-even assumptions - or
>> less. $10b if you're lucky.
>>
>> Now run along and play with your lego.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original NBN tender was $8.7b. The Affordable Broadband Alliance
>>>>>> suggested *half* of that. Only a total moron then dismisses the
>>>>>> tender
>>>>>> responses as 'not value for money' and then announces a $37b 'plan'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have they raised the anaemic takeup rate above 20% yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they ever get into government, which thankfully is looking less
>>>>>>> likely, scrap FTTH and install FTTC, then 10 of 15 years down the
>>>>>>> road
>>>>>>> decide we need to upgrade, what happens?
>>>>>>> Are we left with tens of thousands of very expensive paper weights
>>>>>>> sitting on kerb sides all over the country?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Roozendal, former ALP Roads minister...
"As the minister for roads, I really wasn't au fait with the intimate
details of how to register a vehicle"
Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"
Tanya Plibersek...
...promised voters that there would be "no super-database that contains
all the information about a person"
Sir Isaac Newton...
"I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men"
(Newton died in 1727 so he had never met any of the Greens)
Richardson...
"what will be remembered from Tuesday's debate is that Abbott sought to
remove Slipper from office while Gillard sought to keep him"
Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".
How much new law is there every year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lePrBUHihKI
Joyce...
"It was the prime minister herself who, of her own volition, decided to
go out and grab the wheelie bin and put it back in the kitchen"
NSW Opposition Leader John Robertson...
"I don't believe people in the Labor Party are sexist"
Barnaby Joyce...
"IF YOU DO NOT MANAGE DEBT, DEBT MANAGES YOU"
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 5:37:35 AM11/7/12
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On 7/11/2012 9:23 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
...
...
'The significance of the wireless revolution, and its threat to
fixed-line networks, is not lost on the telecommunications sector any
more than it is lost on President Obama, who is making 4G wireless
broadband his key broadband priority'"
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/internet/20110215-government-report-finds-wireless-networks-will-threaten-nbn-but-experts-say-fixed-connections-still-crucial.html
ALP morons keep on aligning themselves with Obama as if his win will
somehow rub off - but the sad fact of life is that Obama is a winner and
Gillard is a loser!
...
>
> "In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
> past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
> http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
>
>
> 100 customers in a year!!!
>
> Multiple choice:
> WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
>
> 1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
> 2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
> 3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
> 4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
> 5. All of the above
>
"Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
> "In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
> past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
> http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
>
>
> 100 customers in a year!!!
>
> Multiple choice:
> WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
>
> 1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
> 2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
> 3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
> 4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
> 5. All of the above
>
...
'The significance of the wireless revolution, and its threat to
fixed-line networks, is not lost on the telecommunications sector any
more than it is lost on President Obama, who is making 4G wireless
broadband his key broadband priority'"
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/internet/20110215-government-report-finds-wireless-networks-will-threaten-nbn-but-experts-say-fixed-connections-still-crucial.html
ALP morons keep on aligning themselves with Obama as if his win will
somehow rub off - but the sad fact of life is that Obama is a winner and
Gillard is a loser!
Swampfox
Nov 7, 2012, 6:35:48 AM11/7/12
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<snip>
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 2:04:22 PM11/7/12
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Wuzz the multiple choice too difficult for you...?
Sorry about the arithmetic - I know it must be challenging for you...
<unsnip>
No matter, Tasmania (which has had NBN since the ALP monkeys started
destroying our treasury) has takeup of less than 20%, which is less than
one third of plan. IOW, the Capex invested per customer has blown out by
over 200%!
The immediately discounts the 'value' of the NBN by 2/3. Not that the
*lying* ALP ever intended to float it anyway.
"In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
100 customers in a year!!!
Multiple choice:
WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
5. All of the above
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 2:29:10 PM11/7/12
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On 7/11/2012 10:37 PM, Swampfox wrote:
> On 7/11/2012 9:37 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>
> <snip>
"Many homes in AT&T Inc.'s local-phone service areas will see the
company becoming more competitive *with cable* for broadband service
under a new $14 billion investment plan the company revealed Wednesday.
But in more outlying areas, the company will start shifting customers
from regular phone lines *to wireless* service".
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-expand-wireless-wired-broadband-152202406.html
Who will tell that arrogant Labor twot that his strategy is a fail?
Will Gillard pull the plug to achieve the mythical surplus?
Too bad that the cash flow is capex & slowing/halting the stupid NBN
won't do anything for the ALP's faux surlus.
>
>> Obama is a winner and Gillard is a loser!
>
> You'd best tell The Mad Monk, she kicked his arse.
> On 7/11/2012 9:37 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>
> <snip>
"Many homes in AT&T Inc.'s local-phone service areas will see the
company becoming more competitive *with cable* for broadband service
under a new $14 billion investment plan the company revealed Wednesday.
But in more outlying areas, the company will start shifting customers
from regular phone lines *to wireless* service".
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-expand-wireless-wired-broadband-152202406.html
Who will tell that arrogant Labor twot that his strategy is a fail?
Will Gillard pull the plug to achieve the mythical surplus?
Too bad that the cash flow is capex & slowing/halting the stupid NBN
won't do anything for the ALP's faux surlus.
>
>> Obama is a winner and Gillard is a loser!
>
Swampfox
Nov 7, 2012, 5:18:49 PM11/7/12
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On 8/11/2012 6:29 AM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
> On 7/11/2012 10:37 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>> On 7/11/2012 9:37 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>
> "Many homes in AT&T Inc.'s local-phone service areas will see the
> company becoming more competitive *with cable* for broadband service
> under a new $14 billion investment plan the company revealed Wednesday.
>
> But in more outlying areas, the company will start shifting customers
> from regular phone lines *to wireless* service".
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-expand-wireless-wired-broadband-152202406.html
You really are a twat, what are you?
> On 7/11/2012 10:37 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>> On 7/11/2012 9:37 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>
> "Many homes in AT&T Inc.'s local-phone service areas will see the
> company becoming more competitive *with cable* for broadband service
> under a new $14 billion investment plan the company revealed Wednesday.
>
> But in more outlying areas, the company will start shifting customers
> from regular phone lines *to wireless* service".
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-expand-wireless-wired-broadband-152202406.html
"Like other phone companies, AT&T is having a hard time competing with
cable broadband in much of its service area, because regular "DSL"
broadband is now much slower than what cable companies offer."
Yet here in sunny Oz the idiotic Tories want to keep the 50 year old
copper, and pay through the nose for it!
Fucken halfwits.
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 5:31:11 PM11/7/12
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That describes exactly the morons who want to decommission the HFC access.
Swampfox
Nov 7, 2012, 6:43:08 PM11/7/12
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On 8/11/2012 9:31 AM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
> On 8/11/2012 9:18 AM, Swampfox wrote:
>> On 8/11/2012 6:29 AM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2012 10:37 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/2012 9:37 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "Many homes in AT&T Inc.'s local-phone service areas will see the
>>> company becoming more competitive *with cable* for broadband service
>>> under a new $14 billion investment plan the company revealed Wednesday.
>>>
>>> But in more outlying areas, the company will start shifting customers
>>> from regular phone lines *to wireless* service".
>>>
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-expand-wireless-wired-broadband-152202406.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You really are a twat, what are you?
>>
>> "Like other phone companies, AT&T is having a hard time competing with
>> cable broadband in much of its service area, because regular "DSL"
>> broadband is now much slower than what cable companies offer."
>>
>> Yet here in sunny Oz the idiotic Tories want to keep the 50 year old
>> copper, and pay through the nose for it!
>> Fucken halfwits.
>
> Fucken halfwits?
>
> That describes exactly the morons who want to decommission the HFC access.
So you still reckon the copper's a going concern, and that we should
> On 8/11/2012 9:18 AM, Swampfox wrote:
>> On 8/11/2012 6:29 AM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2012 10:37 PM, Swampfox wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/2012 9:37 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "Many homes in AT&T Inc.'s local-phone service areas will see the
>>> company becoming more competitive *with cable* for broadband service
>>> under a new $14 billion investment plan the company revealed Wednesday.
>>>
>>> But in more outlying areas, the company will start shifting customers
>>> from regular phone lines *to wireless* service".
>>>
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-expand-wireless-wired-broadband-152202406.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You really are a twat, what are you?
>>
>> "Like other phone companies, AT&T is having a hard time competing with
>> cable broadband in much of its service area, because regular "DSL"
>> broadband is now much slower than what cable companies offer."
>>
>> Yet here in sunny Oz the idiotic Tories want to keep the 50 year old
>> copper, and pay through the nose for it!
>> Fucken halfwits.
>
> Fucken halfwits?
>
> That describes exactly the morons who want to decommission the HFC access.
dump thousands of big, expensive fucken boxes on footpaths all over the
country, leave them there for 10 or 15 years then scrap them and pay a
fortune to finally get rid of the copper.
Sounds like a good plan, from a brain dead Tory point of view anyway.
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 7:21:20 PM11/7/12
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Swampfox
Nov 7, 2012, 7:49:02 PM11/7/12
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I did, and you ignored it and went off on a tangent about HFC.
You do realise that the vast majority of fixed line internet connections
in Australia are copper?
So you reckon the big fucken boxes that can't be upgraded and paying
Telstra for the copper is a good idea?
Just a yes or no will do.
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 7:55:46 PM11/7/12
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characterisation of the Coalition's plan is a good idea? No.
Do I think that you're an idiot, yes.
There - you got both.
Petzl
Nov 7, 2012, 8:33:56 PM11/7/12
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:37:35 +1100, ALP HopePlus
<gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>
>"Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
You are full of Abbott turd aren't you
<gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>
>"Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
It's actually the other way around
When every home business has a NBN connection WiFi hotspots will
thrive making mobile phones in high density areas unnecessary (Major
Capitals are already finding this out)
--
Petzl
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAsnY1Pbj8&list
In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
Looks like Abbott turd, smells like Abbott turd, feels like Abbott turd, tastes like Abbott turd. Must be Abbott turd. Don't step in it!.
http://www.anyonebutabbott.com.au/
ALP HopePlus
Nov 7, 2012, 9:28:15 PM11/7/12
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On 8/11/2012 12:33 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:37:35 +1100, ALP HopePlus
> <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
Aw gee, you snipped the URL & then misrepresented what it said.
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:37:35 +1100, ALP HopePlus
> <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
>
> You are full of Abbott turd aren't you
the take-up rate of the National Broadband Network, a new independent
report released by the *Government* has revealed".
(Emphasis added to assist comprehension)
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/internet/20110215-government-report-finds-wireless-networks-will-threaten-nbn-but-experts-say-fixed-connections-still-crucial.html
PS: Last I heard, Abbott was in *opposition*. You do know the
difference, don't you?
> It's actually the other way around
"The finding comes on the back of an announcement from Telstra that it
will upgrade its mobile network to include support for much faster and
more sophisticated 4G networks.
Telco experts say while the take-up rate of wireless networks will grow
as mobile devices become more popular and replace PCs for some users the
take-up of internet-based home entertainment services will rely on fixed
broadband connections".
Got it - the NBN is useful for downloading porn and video games.
> When every home business has a NBN connection WiFi hotspots will
> thrive making mobile phones in high density areas unnecessary (Major
> Capitals are already finding this out)
>
Swampfox
Nov 8, 2012, 12:18:11 AM11/8/12
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Well I'll be forked.
Swampfox
Nov 8, 2012, 12:20:05 AM11/8/12
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On 8/11/2012 1:28 PM, ALP HopePlus wrote:
> On 8/11/2012 12:33 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:37:35 +1100, ALP HopePlus
>> <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
>
> Aw gee, you snipped the URL & then misrepresented what it said.
>
>>
>> You are full of Abbott turd aren't you
>
> "The increased popularity of mobile and wireless networks will threaten
> the take-up rate of the National Broadband Network, a new independent
> report released by the *Government* has revealed".
> (Emphasis added to assist comprehension)
> http://www.smartcompany.com.au/internet/20110215-government-report-finds-wireless-networks-will-threaten-nbn-but-experts-say-fixed-connections-still-crucial.html
>
>
> PS: Last I heard, Abbott was in *opposition*. You do know the
> difference, don't you?
>
>
>> It's actually the other way around
>
> Really?
>
> "The finding comes on the back of an announcement from Telstra that it
> will upgrade its mobile network to include support for much faster and
> more sophisticated 4G networks.
>
> Telco experts say while the take-up rate of wireless networks will grow
> as mobile devices become more popular and replace PCs for some users the
> take-up of internet-based home entertainment services will rely on fixed
> broadband connections".
>
> Got it - the NBN is useful for downloading porn and video games.
Don't project your lifestyle choices onto others.
> On 8/11/2012 12:33 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:37:35 +1100, ALP HopePlus
>> <gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Government report finds wireless networks will threaten NBN
>
> Aw gee, you snipped the URL & then misrepresented what it said.
>
>>
>> You are full of Abbott turd aren't you
>
> "The increased popularity of mobile and wireless networks will threaten
> the take-up rate of the National Broadband Network, a new independent
> report released by the *Government* has revealed".
> (Emphasis added to assist comprehension)
> http://www.smartcompany.com.au/internet/20110215-government-report-finds-wireless-networks-will-threaten-nbn-but-experts-say-fixed-connections-still-crucial.html
>
>
> PS: Last I heard, Abbott was in *opposition*. You do know the
> difference, don't you?
>
>
>> It's actually the other way around
>
> Really?
>
> "The finding comes on the back of an announcement from Telstra that it
> will upgrade its mobile network to include support for much faster and
> more sophisticated 4G networks.
>
> Telco experts say while the take-up rate of wireless networks will grow
> as mobile devices become more popular and replace PCs for some users the
> take-up of internet-based home entertainment services will rely on fixed
> broadband connections".
>
> Got it - the NBN is useful for downloading porn and video games.
ALP HopePlus
Nov 8, 2012, 1:00:53 AM11/8/12
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fred-nile-caught-in-web-porn-scandal-20100902-14nuc.html
>>
>>
>>> When every home business has a NBN connection WiFi hotspots will
>>> thrive making mobile phones in high density areas unnecessary (Major
>>> Capitals are already finding this out)
>>>
>>
>> Jargon jargon jargon! It must all be terribly confusing for you.
>>
>>
>>
>
Swampfox
Nov 8, 2012, 2:34:50 AM11/8/12
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computers had accessed porn sites up to 200,000 times."
That's a lot of "monitoring". ;-)
Petzl
Nov 8, 2012, 2:51:48 AM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:34:50 +1100, Swampfox <noi...@whocares.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Tell that to Petzl & his boss...
>> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fred-nile-caught-in-web-porn-scandal-20100902-14nuc.html
>
>"A report by the Department of Parliamentary Services showed his
>computers had accessed porn sites up to 200,000 times."
>
>That's a lot of "monitoring". ;-)
>
Bit of a beat-up fact is the Rev Nile has "never in his life viewed
pornography."
--
Petzl
wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Tell that to Petzl & his boss...
>> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fred-nile-caught-in-web-porn-scandal-20100902-14nuc.html
>
>"A report by the Department of Parliamentary Services showed his
>computers had accessed porn sites up to 200,000 times."
>
>That's a lot of "monitoring". ;-)
>
pornography."
--
Petzl
ALP HopePlus
Nov 8, 2012, 2:59:45 PM11/8/12
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On 8/11/2012 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:34:50 +1100, Swampfox <noi...@whocares.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tell that to Petzl & his boss...
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fred-nile-caught-in-web-porn-scandal-20100902-14nuc.html
>>
>> "A report by the Department of Parliamentary Services showed his
>> computers had accessed porn sites up to 200,000 times."
>>
>> That's a lot of "monitoring". ;-)
>>
> Bit of a beat-up fact is the Rev Nile has "never in his life viewed
> pornography."
That's what you might call 'Nile turd'...
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:34:50 +1100, Swampfox <noi...@whocares.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tell that to Petzl & his boss...
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fred-nile-caught-in-web-porn-scandal-20100902-14nuc.html
>>
>> "A report by the Department of Parliamentary Services showed his
>> computers had accessed porn sites up to 200,000 times."
>>
>> That's a lot of "monitoring". ;-)
>>
> Bit of a beat-up fact is the Rev Nile has "never in his life viewed
> pornography."
> --
> Petzl
> Looks like Abbott turd, smells like Abbott turd, feels like Abbott turd, tastes like Abbott turd. Must be Abbott turd. Don't step in it!.
>
who where
Nov 9, 2012, 8:49:07 PM11/9/12
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:23:47 +1100, ALP HopePlus
<gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>Actually the implementation plan assumed 93% takeup of fibre in ADSL
>zones. The business plan assumed a more conservative 70% takeup.
>
>No matter, Tasmania (which has had NBN since the ALP monkeys started
>destroying our treasury) has takeup of less than 20%, which is less than
>one third of plan. IOW, the Capex invested per customer has blown out by
>over 200%!
>
>The immediately discounts the 'value' of the NBN by 2/3. Not that the
>*lying* ALP ever intended to float it anyway.
>
>"In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
>past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
>http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
>
>100 customers in a year!!!
>
>Multiple choice:
>WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
>
>1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
>2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
>3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
>4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
>5. All of the above
1,2, and 3 at least. Probably 4 therefore 5.
<gmsme...@carbon.tax.is.ineffective> wrote:
>Actually the implementation plan assumed 93% takeup of fibre in ADSL
>zones. The business plan assumed a more conservative 70% takeup.
>
>No matter, Tasmania (which has had NBN since the ALP monkeys started
>destroying our treasury) has takeup of less than 20%, which is less than
>one third of plan. IOW, the Capex invested per customer has blown out by
>over 200%!
>
>The immediately discounts the 'value' of the NBN by 2/3. Not that the
>*lying* ALP ever intended to float it anyway.
>
>"In Tasmania, for instance, the NBN added only 100 customers during the
>past year and take-up rate is still only 18 per cent"
>http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/428673/parliamentary_report_nbn_co_should_prioritise_funding_models/
>
>100 customers in a year!!!
>
>Multiple choice:
>WHY HAVE CONROY AND GILLARD STOPPED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATISATION?
>
>1. They won't be able to sell a white elephant
>2. It won't be finished in anyone's lifetime
>3. The sale price relative to the 'investment' will be embarassing
>4. They are ultra-left and their aim is to nationalise telecoms
>5. All of the above
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