Then 2 weeks later, yesterday I'm driving along and there's a hot oil smell and see
the temp gage is at max again. I don't know why they don't have a buzzer when
they are 80% high, but anyway I go through a red light into the Woolworths car
park and wait until the temp is down to half and fill the radiator with water. There
was no steam that time but after a minute of filling the radiator some steam comes
out, but when I totally fill it it stops. This time I bought some coolant, so I drive for
5kms, then I park the car and let it idle for 15 minutes to keep the aircon going, drive
again and park and when I go to take off the revs drop when I put it in reverse and it stalls
and won't start. I should mention (to give you the WHOLE story!) it stalled just as
I pulled into the Woolworths carpark too. So after half hour it still won't start so
I walk around for a bit and come back an hour later and it works fine.
So if I damaged the engine, why would it drive ok for 20 minutes and then not start?
Plus it seems to run fine again.
What would you do, sell it while it still runs and 1 months rego left, or get a service?
Herc
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If you ever rob someone, even to get your own stuff back, don't use the phrase
"Nobody leave the room!" ~ OJ Simpson
I'd get rid of it. If you overheated it to the extent that it stalled
and wouldn't start, you would have surely warped the head and probably
caused heaps of other problems. Cars are pretty cheap at this time of
the year (end of financial year sales etc)
Have you thought of checking your oil level??
low oil can cause the engine to stall, then start again after cooling down
Bullshit. Try stick to stuff you know about - like how to hide
outside primary schools etc.
Open the user manual for your car, open to a random page and see where your
finger lands, and that will be the answer.
How much McShit did you eat?
Not bloody likely. Seized engines generally stay seized.
Why didn't you go into maccas and ask for 6 large ice waters that would
have cooled the radiator down
During that couple of hours did anyone ask what the fuck you were doing?
Hope you weren't outside the play area
Jason
Just checked it then and it's full. Car started fine and held revs in reverse (auto).
>
> Bullshit. Try stick to stuff you know about
Right as always Coach, but a worthy suggestion to check the fluids none the less.
Herc
The reason it overheated is I was using water for coolant. I worked as a bowser boy since I was 14
and I've filled more radiators with WATER than grandma's bought tampons, coolant my ass..
So I guess radiators are smaller now hence the need for coolant?
Herc
**************
You know fuck all about motors, but appear to know all about primary schools
IMHo coolant does a few things - badly.
It somehow lubes the water pump - duh, it actually 'might' do so for the
seals.
Lowers the Freezing point of the cooling system contents a few degrees.
Raises the Boiling point of the cooling system contents a few degrees.
(Though probably less change in both cases cf Rust and Scale as seen in
engines in days of yore.)
And most of all, 'coolant' is supposed to control the Ph of the mix to
something approaching optimum for the aluminium used in the engine
construction.
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Toby.
Caveat Lector
> How much McShit did you eat?
Heaps, judging by the subsequent post to this group:-)
Crap. The coolant doesn't raise the boiling point. It's the pressure
of the radiator cap that does that. Please stick to stuff you
actually know about.
Most intelligent suggestion I've come across on usenet! Someone gets it!
Actually Lordy told me to sell. Very cryptic though....
the other day I did this AMAZING car park out the front of Night Owl, it was a single spot
and I went forward in close to the curb and pulled it straight just before the car in front,
I was totally amazed how good at parking the car it was.
Then I kept having these near misses parking my car and pulling out of car parks, maybe a
clue that the car was about to have a minor mishap, not that I "got it" in time.
Then I disproved a major mathematical theory accepted by millions. Which reminded me
of a comment about Godel's proof years ago which I also disproved, it doesn't actually detract from
mathematics it's just a "dent in the fender" of mathematics.
Then I parked at the phone booth outside an old apartment I stayed at where I scraped the Fiesta
reversing out because my garage number was not accessible from the front.
So I was working out Car Park Scrape has the same mnemonic as Complete Permutation Set
which is how I disproved Cantor's proof. Then I channeled what would have happened if
I broke down and the answer was "just leave". Then I watched Simpsons last night and there
were 2 Ms for Moe's new club as spotlights in the clouds, obviously "2 meanings!"
So the second meaning appears to be to sell the car... It was a strange set of channeling about
money, aging, the proof, the car, but I think I worked it all out. Homer pushed his hand through
the juke box and his hand was bloody, that was ANOTHER "fender bender" I did the same thing
trying to push my Town Ace up hill putting my hand through the headlight years ago. As a
Logan's Run fan this was startling, as I just told my Russian Bride I was approaching 40, in the
movie they get executed at 30. My 31st birthday was my first night in prison, the start of the
"fiery carousel" of rebirth. 8 1/2 years ago now...
And last night I was channeling about the 5' 11" shop assistant who likes me, and then
Michael Douglass said on tv "She's a peach!".
Herc
Actually,.as long as the car isnt running a t/stat over 95c (5 degree
headroom)you can run the car if it an old model, without pressure. It doesnt
work with E-W flow radiators (Falcons), but works well with N-S
radiators. No pressure,..no busted hoses, less leaking head-gaskets. As
to boiling point,..I was under the impression that Glycol increased the
boiling point,..which is what Toby was on about.
Jason
It's very good for killing cats though (it fucks their livers)!
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John H
: >
: >
: > Have you thought of checking your oil level??
: > low oil can cause the engine to stall, then start again after cooling
: > down
:
: Not bloody likely. Seized engines generally stay seized.
:
:
Not always true, but for oil or lack of it yes thats pretty accurate.
I (in my earlier uncareing days) flogged (From a standstill to rev limit for around 40seconds and
hard braked to a stop) a brand new GTS Holden and knocked it into neutral at the end of a off ramp.
It stalled and wouldnt turn over for two light set changes. Finally wound over after cooling
slightly, drove it with care to the dealer and left it there.....idleing. The sales bloke jumped in
and floored it down the road......... his problem now.
..... Now before anyone jumps down my throat for flogging a new car I was stupid, it was a new car
still owned by the dealer (it had 22Kms on it when I hopped in). I sure as hell wouldnt do it again
and I would absolute spit chips if someone did it to a car I was about to buy.
In fact they almost never stay seized unless there's water in the
cylinders! :)
How many engines have you pulled down that had serious score marks on
the pistons from an earlier seizure, and were still running?
I've even seen a few where the rings were stuck in their grooves
because the lands were scored over, but were still running when they
got to me.
Besides which, a lot of diesels are wired so the fuel cuts off as soon
as oil pressure is lost (2H Toyotas had a habit of cutting out when
the going got really rough and steep, even when the oil was above the
add mark).
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John H
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jonz
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
- boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene
Spafford,1992
I had to knock on someone's door before I used his hose..
Good thing though I parked at a shopping center and by the time the car was ready there
were only a few cars in the car park, all staff so I had the whole grocery store to myself!
Usually I pay $4.50 for 2 Litres milk at the 24 hour servo at 3 am so nobody verbally abuses me.
Herc
> What would you do, sell it while it still runs and 1 months rego left, or
> get a service?
Get a service. That'll fix it no problems.
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Regards,
Noddy.
> How many engines have you pulled down that had serious score marks on
> the pistons from an earlier seizure, and were still running?
Lots.
They might not have been running terribly well, but they were still running.
> I've even seen a few where the rings were stuck in their grooves
> because the lands were scored over, but were still running when they
> got to me.
It must have had a threaded oil filler cap. A "push in" one would have been
stuck to the underside of the bonnet :)
> Besides which, a lot of diesels are wired so the fuel cuts off as soon
> as oil pressure is lost (2H Toyotas had a habit of cutting out when
> the going got really rough and steep, even when the oil was above the
> add mark).
Some cars as well.
Fiats if I remember correctly have an oil pressure cut out wired into the
ignition system. Jaguars most definitely should have one :)
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Regards,
Noddy.
> The reason it overheated is I was using water for coolant. I worked as a
> bowser boy since I was 14
> and I've filled more radiators with WATER than grandma's bought tampons,
> coolant my ass.. So I guess radiators are smaller now hence the need for
> coolant?
Uh-huh....
Stuck to aus.tv pal. You belong there with all the other idiots :)
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Regards,
Noddy.
>I just went for a drive and I was watching the temp gauge, of course I
>forgot to
> check the radiator before I left and it overheated again! Radiator leak.
> How much will that cost?
27 bucks.
> I had to knock on someone's door before I used his hose..
I normally use my own. You must be a homosexual.
> Good thing though I parked at a shopping center and by the time the car
> was ready there
> were only a few cars in the car park, all staff so I had the whole grocery
> store to myself!
Bewdy.
> Usually I pay $4.50 for 2 Litres milk at the 24 hour servo at 3 am so
> nobody verbally abuses me.
What a life you lead.
How about ending it so we can all have some peace?
--
Regards,
Noddy.
uhuh. Yes I will, or I was..
Herc
Actually when I was walking up the street to look for a tap, the third house was
a computer shop with a big sign
JUST LIKE CARS
COMPUTERS NEED A SERVICE
ITS A SIGN ITS A SIGN!
Herc
Maybe not literally seized, but you would know you have a serious engine
problem if you run it out of oil to the point where it seizes and it
recovers to run again.
I don't think you would have to be asking what the problem was if you did
that to an engine.
> How many engines have you pulled down that had serious score marks on
> the pistons from an earlier seizure, and were still running?
>
Yeah yeah, but for those that do it's pretty obvious that there is some
serious issue both before and after seizure.
> I've even seen a few where the rings were stuck in their grooves
> because the lands were scored over, but were still running when they
> got to me.
>
Seen that too.
>Actually when I was walking up the street to look for a tap, the third house was
>a computer shop with a big sign
>
>JUST LIKE CARS
>COMPUTERS NEED A SERVICE
>
>
>
>ITS A SIGN ITS A SIGN!
.....that you're a complete fucking idiot loony delusional psycho with
no grasp whatsoever of everyday reality ....
I'm overtired etc, but I seem to recall reading that in the right ratio
(and running 'straight' coolant is just as bad as plain water in thie
respect) there's actually an increased heat transfer
rate/capability/effiiciency too. So on a borderline cooling system, I
reckn it would be a big deal. Off the top of my head, I've seen some
alfas (I think 33ti or something like that, a mate had more than one,
and I'm not going to google to find specific model designation) -
anyway, the radiator was about the same size as the heater core on any
other car I'd seen with a similar sized engine. And even with the
raduiator cap being 1-2psi 'wrong' it'd run hot like a bastard. If it
dropped any water, it was in the red and had to pull over, wait, then
replenish etc.
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Even you should follow that *sign*. How do you know the world doesn't give you signs from time to time?
I'm getting water for my radiator because my car keeps breaking down and the first thing I see
is a big shop sign "CARS NEED A SERVICE".
But Dingo thinks a coincidence and if you think otherwise you're a loony delusional psycho...
that's skeptics for ya!
Herc
It's a sure sign of psychosis where you CHOOSE to always see a
connection between totally separate events.
And you can bet that he goes around sniffing the seats after every run
The mechanic just said $600! I said I'll keep filling it with water.
He said 9 times out of 10 it's the plastic that leaks and you have to replace the radiator.
Herc
Unless your car is old enough to have a cast iron block & ditto cylinder
head, then it should have the recommended % of coolant in the system, not
just water. Otherwise you get electrolysis happening much faster between
the dissimilar metals and Bad Things Happen!
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I'd have thought trying to stuff a cat in the radiator would kill it
anyway ;)
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>What a life you lead.
>
>How about ending it so we can all have some peace?
Watch it - I suggested that to him previously and he got upset!
But what car is it?
I take it it's not the one named after you?
http://fat.ly/216l6
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So more than *four weeks* after this first happened, a sign about
computers needing servicing just like cars is your *first* sign? If you
follow that logic to any sort of conclusion, your Dell Laptop would have
been a flaming molten mess and your fingers burned to a crisp long before
you stopped using it. Cheers
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It's not what you said, but the way in which you said it, you moron.
Nah, there's a much easier way... a saucer of ethylene glycol brings
'em running. Beats the old tin of sardines on the tankstand trick
hands down. :)
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John H
When I want your opinion, bitch, I'll give it to you.....
I've not tried it but apparently it's very sweet tasting hence the
propensity for killing stuff - they 'want' to drink it.
Of trivial interest I've read on a medical based forum (the thread was
somewhat of an internet meme at one stage) on a thread about 'weirdest
emergency room admissions' - well apart from the 'really' crazy ones,
were blokes who had variously come in having attempted suicide by
drinking coolant, but strangely, esp given the amount and time lapse
since they drank it, were presenting zero symptoms. In each of the
cases, they had drank a shitload of alcohol to both work up the courage
and alleviate any possible pain of the method of suicide. Turns out
ethanol, in considerable dosages is the 'anti-dote' - i.e. it is a
competitive antagonist or something - it will bind to the receptor or
chemical that ethylene glycol otherwise would, and prevents it from thus
doing harm..
Strangely Ironic that you double post that one Noddy.
> Strangely Ironic that you double post that one Noddy.
Why?
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No that's Sony Laptops.
Really no different to the people that live by their star signs. T thought
that the PK (that must be the breath test) test and radiator specialists
would have come up by now.
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>
>
So *that's* what it is.... "Yeah mate, your car's overheating because
there's chewing gum in the radiator; but the exhaust smells fresh!"
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> So *that's* what it is.... "Yeah mate, your car's overheating because
> there's chewing gum in the radiator; but the exhaust smells fresh!"
>
Speaking of over-heating
Looking at the external weather station last night here in Brisbane the
temp dropped to 4 Deg C and at 2 pm currently is 14.8 C
no wonder the dogs wanna come in
I gather last night in Ipswich the temp was very sub zero
Had the lowest max of the year here this week, 28C. Bitterly cold and many
locals were wearing jackets. Min about 20.
Shut up Brad
smart-arse
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No More Leaks.
Can't you just pour some goo in the radiator and it gaps the leak.
Or a silicon water proofing spray underneath?
bluetack?
Herc
Yep. Best cure for coolant is a bottle of vodka.
Fraser
Crack an egg in it. If you are going to be a rough cunt why stuff around?
Fraser
Bah, I remember heaps of products for leaky radiators, these mechanics are charlatans they'd
replace a windscreen with a bird crap on it before they'd get out the Mr Muscle.
$5.95 is not stuffing around, besides I just want to increase my range a little so I can get Hungry Jacks
$4.95 burger, fries, sundae and coke. I was sleeping in the car some nights the last few weeks and those $5 meals
really helped.
Herc
>Bah, I remember heaps of products for leaky radiators, these mechanics are charlatans they'd
>replace a windscreen with a bird crap on it before they'd get out the Mr Muscle.
A bird crapped on my windscreen once - last time I I took her out on a
date.....
>$5.95 is not stuffing around, besides I just want to increase my range a little so I can get Hungry Jacks
>$4.95 burger, fries, sundae and coke. I was sleeping in the car some nights the last few weeks and those $5 meals
>really helped.
Cut out the greasy take-away crap - you look too much like the
Michelin Man already, plus look what it's done to your brain.
that's about as funny as my gf joke, something I realised today..
I haven't dated in a long time, and I used to date older women. In fact my last
girlfriend is about 60 now.
>
>>$5.95 is not stuffing around, besides I just want to increase my range a little so I can get Hungry Jacks
>>$4.95 burger, fries, sundae and coke. I was sleeping in the car some nights the last few weeks and those $5 meals
>>really helped.
>
> Cut out the greasy take-away crap - you look too much like the
> Michelin Man already, plus look what it's done to your brain.
The greatest breakthrough in mathematics in the 21ST Century says you're wrong!
phi( <[1] 2 3 4...> ) & An (phi ( <[1 2 ... n] n+1 n+2 ...>) -> phi( <[1 2 ... n n+1] n+2 n+3 ...> ))
->
phi( <[1 2 3 4...]> )
Herc 1 | 100,000,000 mathematicians 0
> phi( <[1] 2 3 4...> ) & An (phi ( <[1 2 ... n] n+1 n+2 ...>) -> phi( <[1 2 ... n n+1] n+2 n+3 ...> ))
> ->
> phi( <[1 2 3 4...]> )
I take it that the above is all your own work?
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Toby.
Caveat Lector
Search google groups for 'induction schema' and Herc is the first result!
Sylvia prodded me for a few days into actually making a proof. Applying the schema to finite prefixes
of computable reals is my work, which should establish the downfall of multiple or transfinite infinities.
Herc
At least someone round here takes me seriously:-)
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Toby.
Caveat Lector
Al
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It's more fun to insult everyone.
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2 wheeled vehicles should be banned anyway. If they can't ride to the
conditions (including spills on the road) then they deserve to die.
I am certain going from cold engine to mid way on the temp gauge took twice as long
with coolant in the reservoir. I know it's temperature coefficient is not (much) better than water
but it works somehow!
The only explanation is the one time I tested coolant I was constantly checking the gauge and it
*seemed* to take longer... have to test it again.
Herc
Trust me herc, coolant does nothing whatsoever to the boiling point of
the water. It's the pressure of the system (via the radiator cap)
that increases the boiling point. Coolant is simply a rust and
corrosion inhibitor (and in some cases, also an anti-freeze). Don't
listen to these morons on aus.cars. They haven't a clue what they are
talking about.
Nulon Radiator Stop Leak (R50) stops leaks fast in radiators, heater cores and welch plugs.
Nulon R50 is compatible with all coolant types. R50 contains tiny particles of aluminium,
brass and cellulose fibre. These particles block up cracks and leaks and set hard - like a ceramic seal.
Is this in KMart? I have to waltz through a shopping mall and into KMart itself to find out,
as The Truman it's a last resort only, 200 verbal attacks in 10 minutes is not fun.
Herc
>
>Trust me herc, coolant does nothing whatsoever to the boiling point of
>the water.
Bullshit!
Tell me , what happens when you mix something that boils at 180 deg
with water that boils at 100deg.
Guess what..the boiling point of the water rises....
OzOne of the three twins
I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>The only explanation is the one time I tasted coolant I was constantly checking my urine flow and it
>*seemed* to take longer... have to test it again.
You're not supposed to drink it, fool!
How sad. You have sunk so low that you can no longer think of
anything witty to say, so you have to modify other people's posts.
Pathetic really.
> Trust me herc, coolant does nothing whatsoever to the boiling point of
> the water. It's the pressure of the system (via the radiator cap)
> that increases the boiling point. Coolant is simply a rust and
> corrosion inhibitor (and in some cases, also an anti-freeze). Don't
> listen to these morons on aus.cars. They haven't a clue what they are
> talking about.
Pull the other one dipstick. Trust me, you must have one.
Most anti-freeze, anti-boil products (Castrol, Caltex, Penrite
etc) DO raise the boiling point of the fluid as well as
lowering it's freezing temp. Oh, and most are Glycol based.
Do you Google or do you just flap your gums a lot?
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>Pathetic is an improvement for Dingo.
Oh the irony, coming from psycho-man.....
It's not paranoia when they're really out to get you.
I have to go, I'm going to start living for now! Well maybe later after the torture stops.
Herc
Huh?
> sop
Apparently. :-P
> Trust me herc, coolant does nothing whatsoever to the boiling point of
> the water. It's the pressure of the system (via the radiator cap)
> that increases the boiling point. Coolant is simply a rust and
> corrosion inhibitor (and in some cases, also an anti-freeze). Don't
> listen to these morons on aus.cars. They haven't a clue what they are
> talking about.
Lol :) This from some stupid cross-posting fuckwit who calls aus.tv
home.....
Why don't you silly fucktards just wank amongst yourselves and strop
cross-posting your puerile shit over here? I assure you no one here gives a
fuck what you think you know.
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Noddy.
you know the rest
>Why don't you silly fucktards just wank amongst yourselves and strop
>cross-posting your puerile shit over here? I assure you no one here gives a
>fuck what you think you know.
TOTKO.....
So why did you reply?
You're in one of your "behavioral idiot" moods?
You don't do yourself any favors eh.
KMart didn't have it. They had stuff all, just the usual car products and fuel additives, couple others.
They didn't even have Plus Size mens clothes, only XXL, I've spent half of winter in shorts and tshirts.
As predicted I got abused by half a dozen dweebs in the carpark, including kids being brainwashed
into saying they like being molested! The Truman Company molests little kids in front of me every
opportunity, gets them to squeal vile sexual comments at me, they molest kindergarten girls until
they squeal at me about being raped and sh1t like that!
Then about 50 assh0les in KMart and the shopping center abused me, one bitch in KMart was going
on how horrible I make her feel. She's 'known' me for 3 seconds and already formed her opinion from
thought implants from USA government breaking the law 1,000,000 times over because they can
get away with it. Brainwash entire cities into abusing me and nobody goes public. On and on for 8 years!
You think I'm imagining it. All you had to do was post NO KMART DOES NOT HAVE STOP RADIATOR LEAK
and I could have gone a day without mass abuse to my face. Truman Company anonymous coward abuse
and stupid neighbours only. How many decades of sonic torture must I endure until one person takes
me seriously just enough to check the proof on sight.
Herc
>You think I'm imagining it. All you had to do was post NO KMART DOES NOT HAVE STOP RADIATOR LEAK
>and I could have gone a day without mass abuse to my face. Truman Company anonymous coward abuse
>and stupid neighbours only. How many decades of sonic torture must I endure until one person takes
>me seriously just enough to check the proof on sight.
The first sentence is the correct one. And if you want to fit into
some normal-size clothes, lose some bloody weight!
>
>>>
>> No
>> you are standing to close to the metalised reflecting surface
>
> You don't do yourself any favors eh.
>
woof woof sop
fark it's cold up here atm 14 C
might walk the dogs now down the shop
get some liquorice and retire with a scotch for the night to the movie
rook near the heater
> woof woof sop
> fark it's cold up here atm 14 C
> might walk the dogs now down the shop
> get some liquorice and retire with a scotch for the night to the movie
> rook near the heater
It's farking raining here, to go with the cold.
A little Tawny (maybe a few little) and a good League game
appeals to the sop tonight. :-P
> So why did you reply?
Did you want me to send the message to you by ESP?
Fucking idiot....
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Noddy.
Gee Coach, you've never lost an argument yet but I DON'T see how you're going to
get out of this one!
Herc
That's simple Herc. My mind is immeasurably superior to Noddy's, so
it would be grossly unfair for me to argue with this midget. (some
would even go so far as to suggest that to do so would be bordering on
bullying - and there's no place for that on usenet - as we all know).
Al
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