New Falcon / Commodore too powerful?
M@W8
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Not a lot of good arguments here... but a fair bit of scare-mongering...
Ali Babba
his life...
And to say that the market is targeted at young males?!?! HUH? Show me
someone under 30 with 50 grand to throw at a car.
What a wanker!
AB
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Marco Spaccavento
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> html
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> Not a lot of good arguments here... but a fair bit of scare-mongering...
The only half decent arguments come toward the end of the article, such as
the call for traction control to be fitted across the FalCom range, and the
arguments about how power can actually be a safety feature in itself.
The rest of the argument is fairly stupid. For example, he points out that
the BA has twice the power of the EA. This is only true if you compare it
with the EA 3.2, which was an engine practically nobody ordered in their
EAs - in fact, it only lasted six months before the 3.9 became standard
(with 120kW or so). He also completely fails to mention the fat that both
cars have put on since the EA/VN days - both cars have easily gained
200-300kg.
The most insipid, condescending and frankly offensive argument comes from
that self-important ideologue described in the article as "Kim Rennick",
from some no doubt two-bit company operating out of a caravan in someone's
backyard who would like to think of themselves as "automotive consultants
Autopolis", who have taken upon themselves to decide that people who happen
to enjoy a bit of action when they flex their right foot in a car are "red
blooded, or totally unsophisticated", and apparently if you like horsepower
it's because you have a penis length problem. And then there was this gem:
"Ford and Holden are appealing to a mindset which is anti-chardonnay and
anti-latte."
"The cup-holders in both cars should be able to hold a can of Foster's."
How delightful of Kim to assume that people who want to drive something more
substantial than a New Beetle or a 318i are therefore complete redneck
morons. This sort of attitude really, really shits me - it's the whole
"what I like is better than what you like" thing, as if people who like
latte and chardonnay are innately superior to people who like beer, and fast
cars. Kim is probably the sort of person who lives in a "charming, darling"
terrace house in a basket-weaving suburb and packs a cut lunch and a compass
when she goes to visit the Western Suburbs.
Well call me unsophisticated, but I think I'd rather hang out with people
who like fast cars and beer, thank you very much.
Rant over now.
Marco,
feeling persecuted.
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Lucifer-V8
This Kim really has his arse wedge up between an elephant buttocks
looking for gold nuggets!
What a wankfart!
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Lucifer-V8
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> "M@W8" wrote:
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> > http://drive.fairfax.com.au/content-new/news/general/2002/11/25/FFX8BD29X8D.
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> > Not a lot of good arguments here... but a fair bit of scare-mongering...
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> This Kim really has his arse wedge up between an elephant buttocks
> looking for gold nuggets!
Crap!
What I really meant was!
This Kim really has his head wedge up between an elephant buttocks
looking for gold nuggets!
F'n beer! :-/
anon
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conehead
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Yeah, but you haven't refuted his arguments, just impugned his character and
accommodation. What's your point?
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Stan Marsh
> > looking for gold nuggets!
>
> Crap!
>
> What I really meant was!
>
> This Kim really has his head wedge up between an elephant buttocks
> looking for gold nuggets!
>
> F'n beer! :-/
Dan! You only stuffed that up cause you're anti-latte.
Marco Spaccavento
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> Yeah, but you haven't refuted his arguments, just impugned his character
and
> accommodation. What's your point?
How do you refute arguments like that? Invite all V8 owners in aus.cars to
post their penis length measurements? Conduct a survey of car ownership vs
preference between beer and latte? The entire basis of this Kim character's
arguments is basically, that people who like performance cars are bogans.
Lord Ponsenby
> "Marco Spaccavento" <rbge...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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<snipped some material that has most certainly made a point>
>
> Yeah, but you haven't refuted his arguments, just impugned his
> character and accommodation. What's your point?
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> Conehead
> I'm bored, Saddam!
>
>
>
>
Doesn't matter - it was a ripper post, you should have read it..
Stay bored, you're quieter that way:-)
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<rbge...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>How do you refute arguments like that? Invite all V8 owners in aus.cars to
>post their penis length measurements? Conduct a survey of car ownership vs
>preference between beer and latte? The entire basis of this Kim character's
>arguments is basically, that people who like performance cars are bogans.
You forgot large 6 cylinders etc. Anyway stats:
Falcon 6, large(girth is where it works apparently), latte
Coops
Bob Smith
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>Am I the only bloke in here who thinks anti-latte is just about the best
>thing any person can be?
>
Hey - knock off with the latte bashing. I have the occassional one :P
Coops
Lucifer-V8
> Dan! You only stuffed that up cause you're anti-latte.
And I am so pleased to be!.
:-)
markone2
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Dave
whats latte?
dave
markone2
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> whats latte?
>
> dave
>
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Lucifer-V8
Dave wrote:
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> whats latte?
A toffs type of coffee. All I need in a Coffee is 2-3 Tea spoons of
Coffee and some boiling water and that's it. None of the instant shite
either. :-) No milk or Sugar either. :-p
athol
> whats latte?
A type of strange coffee that is preferred by pretentious gits.
:-)
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> the call for traction control to be fitted across the FalCom range
even then, it's a few years late... in terms of power:weight, the BA sin't
that much better than my EF!!
KK
Kieron Murphy
and to add to that, the BA will put its power down better, not to
mention out handle the EF. In fact, regardless of power/weight, the VN
Commodore was a dodgy in the way it delivered its power.
Kieron
Max Power
> > whats latte?
>
> A type of strange coffee that is preferred by pretentious gits.
Tastes good but :-)
bev
Will this post be sufficient.?
;)
Bev
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I like my coffee to sit up and bark, so for me it's espresso and black.
Arf!
Anyone make a car with a cupholder small enough for an espresso cup? :)
Christopher Smith
and
> accommodation. What's your point?
Given that the criticisms were nothing more than ad hominems and character
attacks, what more is necessary ?
Forg
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> On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:42:15 +1000,
> "Bob Smith" wrote:
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>> Am I the only bloke in here who thinks
>> anti-latte is just about the best
>> thing any person can be?
...
> Hey - knock off with the latte bashing.
> I have the occassional one :P
...
Mmm, caramel latte ... goes well with a good
choccy mud that's served with both cream &
ice-cream. :)
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Punch Bunny
>A toffs type of coffee. All I need in a Coffee is 2-3 Tea spoons of
>Coffee and some boiling water and that's it. None of the instant shite
>either. :-) No milk or Sugar either. :-p
What, no salt in your coffee?
What are you, a girl? ;-)
- Bunny
Lucifer-V8
> What, no salt in your coffee?
Did that once by accident! Luckily I didn't drink it! :-)
> What are you, a girl? ;-)
No but the Mrs is! :-p
bev
Dave
dave
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Neil Fisher
wrote:
>markone2 <mark...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> See! yet another 240GL driver venting wind from the rear passage!
>
>Yeah. Should put 'em in my 264GLE, preferrably in the wet. They'd
>have to provide insurance while they were driving, though. :-p
>
Shouldn't that be 284?
Neil
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>
>
>Dave wrote:
>>
>> whats latte?
>
>A toffs type of coffee. All I need in a Coffee is 2-3 Tea spoons of
>Coffee and some boiling water and that's it. None of the instant shite
>either. :-) No milk or Sugar either. :-p
>
Yeah - no need to ruin a good cup of coffee with sugar.
Dunno about the *always* black part though - a nip of Baileys is nice.
Even the Cadbury's chocolate (alcoholic) drink is nice in coffee.
Lucifer-V8
> Yeah - no need to ruin a good cup of coffee with sugar.
>
> Dunno about the *always* black part though - a nip of Baileys is nice.
> Even the Cadbury's chocolate (alcoholic) drink is nice in coffee.
Yeah nice!
Neil Fisher
>Neil Fisher wrote:
>
>> Yeah - no need to ruin a good cup of coffee with sugar.
>>
>> Dunno about the *always* black part though - a nip of Baileys is nice.
>> Even the Cadbury's chocolate (alcoholic) drink is nice in coffee.
>
>Yeah nice!
I'm drooling already, reading my own post ;-)
'tis funny - if I drink *white* coffee, I feel the need for a ciggy.
But not black coffee. Weird, huh?
Neil Fisher
wrote:
>The car was manufactured as a 264GLE. Regardless of how many
>cylinders it has now, the original model designation remains
>264GLE. Later on, the 760 was a turbo 4cyl, so obviously the
>number of cylinders became irrelevant even to Volvo. :-)
Yes - I am disappointed in Volvo for that, just as I am disappointed
that BMW put 1.9 and 2.0 engines in 318's in recent times. Bloody
hell, it was always such a good idea to me, and they screwed it all up
to trade on the model name (or so it seems to me).
Lucifer-V8
> I'm drooling already, reading my own post ;-)
Yeah im dying for a drink really! But later on tonight I won't be
driving so i'll so go out with mates and get pissed. :-)
>
> 'tis funny - if I drink *white* coffee, I feel the need for a ciggy.
> But not black coffee. Weird, huh?
I quit smoking actually! Wouldn't mind a dart now, I haven't even had a
joint for 6 months too. Shit I hope I don't turn into a bloody
vegetarian next! :-/
Forg
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> The car was manufactured as a 264GLE.
> Regardless of how many cylinders it has now, the
> original model designation remains 264GLE.
...
Ever wondered how people got in & out of a 240? :)
[Oh, the oldies are always the ... well, worst really]
Forg
...
> LOL. I've seen some convertibles with the doors
> welded up to form a body much like a manx
> buggy... I know how to make a true 240 (or 260)
> out of either a sedan _or_ a wagon. :-)
...
Remind me never to be sitting in my car while you
& welding gear are anywhere nearby ...
athol
> Remind me never to be sitting in my car while you
> & welding gear are anywhere nearby ...
Spoilsport. :-p
The more I think about it... the idea is still stupid. I like
having a roof on a car - I even started thinking about making
an opening hardtop like a Purvis Eureka - on a Volvo?!? :-)
I think I need a holiday...