OT: POTUS

[Mighty Mouse]

the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..

auslink.info/video/joe.mp4

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[Clocky]

On 24/12/2023 7:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>
> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>

Tsk tsk... that's very selective snipping and for every one of Biden's
bad press conferences there are probably 10 Trump ones that are far
worse - remember Trump suggesting the injecting of disinfectant as a
solution to COVID? But you are right, the US certainly lowered it's
colours after voting in Trump and it's been a slow recovery ever since
that has had a massive setback when the US-Biden administration decided
to actively support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the Zionazi
regime.


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[Mighty Mouse]

Clocky wrote:
> On 24/12/2023 7:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>
>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>
>
> Tsk tsk... that's very selective snipping

you should note the continuous segments

> and for every one of Biden's bad press conferences..

..there are dozens more!. he doesn't even know where he is or what day
it is, and he's the Commander in Chief of the armed forces!

> here are probably 10 Trump ones that are far worse

no :)

> - remember Trump suggesting the injecting of disinfectant as a
> solution to COVID? But you are right, the US certainly lowered it's
> colours after voting in Trump and it's been a slow recovery ever since
> that has had a massive setback when the US-Biden administration
> decided to actively support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by
> the Zionazi regime.
>
>

they're not. they are trying to destroy Hamas. Hamas controls Gaza, so
the Palestinians only have them to blame for their plight. they should
support Israel to get rid of Hamas!

[Mighty Mouse]

Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 24/12/2023 7:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>
>>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>>
>>
>> Tsk tsk... that's very selective snipping
>
> you should note the continuous segments
>
>> and for every one of Biden's bad press conferences..

here's another one. no snipping here. not only does he not know where he
is, he doesn't know what he's saying. he can't even read what's right
infront of him properly!

https://auslink.info/video/biden1.mp4

[Trevor Wilson]

On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>
> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>

**America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant choice
for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the alternative (Trump).
That said, under Biden's watch, the US has done OK.

Just who, of the present alternatives, do you think would make a better
POTUS?

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[Mighty Mouse]

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>
>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>
>
> **America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant choice
> for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the alternative (Trump).
> That said, under Biden's watch, the US has done OK.

except it's obvious that senile "I'm just following my orders here"
Biden is not really running the show. he's a puppet at best. so who's
pulling the strings? it's being said it's Obama. and the Southern border
is a mess. how many terror cells are in the US now, thanks to Biden's
open borders?

>
> Just who, of the present alternatives, do you think would make a
> better POTUS?
>

pretty much anybody, but I don't follow politics much, so let's see who
the GOP puts up.

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/12/2023 8:11 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>
>>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>>
>>
>> **America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant choice
>> for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the alternative (Trump).
>> That said, under Biden's watch, the US has done OK.
>
> except it's obvious that senile "I'm just following my orders here"
> Biden is not really running the show. he's a puppet at best. so who's
> pulling the strings?

**No idea, but as long as it's not Trump or the GOP criminals who
support him (Trump).

it's being said it's Obama. and the Southern border
> is a mess. how many terror cells are in the US now, thanks to Biden's
> open borders?

**Probably none. That's just Howard style scare tactics.

>
>>
>> Just who, of the present alternatives, do you think would make a
>> better POTUS?
>>
>
> pretty much anybody, but I don't follow politics much, so let's see who
> the GOP puts up.

**The GOP is completely dominated by Trump. That the majority of the
party supports Trump makes them criminally culpable. NONE deserve to be
in power. Except those who have the balls to stand up to Trump's
criminality.

If Trump gains power again, not only is the US fucked, but so is:

Ukraine
NATO
Large amounts of Western Europe
World stability
The environment
Taiwan
And, eventually, Australia

The ramifications of another Trump presidency cannot be over-stated.
Trump is a diabolical and extremely dangerous choice for Americans to
make. Trump has no interest in the environment, reducing fossil fuel
use, Europe, the Southern Pacific region, Taiwan, etc, etc. Trump is
solely interested in enriching the Trump family and keeping himself out
of jail. Trump needs to become POTUS, so he can pardon himself from his
many criminal acts. In fact, Trump has no interest in ordinary
Americans, which they may find out, to their cost.

Biden is not a great choice. Biden is the ONLY choice. Unless the
Democrats can find someone who can defeat Trump.

[Daryl]

If its a race between Trump and Biden I'd say that the US is totally
screwed, if that's the best candidates either side can come up with then
its proof that the US is going down the toilet very fast.
FFS out of a population of approx 360 million they can't find a decent
presidential candidate?


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[Trevor Wilson]

**As we have seen here in Australia, the very worst humans can become
leaders of the country. For example: Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison.

Thing is this: The US had an excellent choice for POTUS in Hillary
Clinton. After a campaign of lies and innuendo (all of which has been
proven to be false), along with appalling timing from an FBI
investigation, Clinton has been destroyed politically. The whole world
was stuck with Trump as a consequence of those lies.

There are several, excellent possibilities in the US for POTUS.
Unfortunately, the US is clearly not ready for a gay man or a woman as
POTUS. The Democrats are rightly frightened of how Trump and the
Christian morons who dictate much of US politics might react to such
choices. Biden, OTOH, is a known quantity. He beat Trump before. He
could beat him again.

DO not underestimate Biden. Or Trump.

[Mighty Mouse]

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 8:11 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>>
>>>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>>>
>>>
>>> **America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant
>>> choice for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the alternative
>>> (Trump). That said, under Biden's watch, the US has done OK.
>>
>> except it's obvious that senile "I'm just following my orders here"
>> Biden is not really running the show. he's a puppet at best. so who's
>> pulling the strings?
>
> **No idea, but as long as it's not Trump or the GOP criminals who
> support him (Trump).
>
>  it's being said it's Obama. and the Southern border
>> is a mess. how many terror cells are in the US now, thanks to Biden's
>> open borders?
>
> **Probably none. That's just Howard style scare tactics.

you're so biased it's compromised your rationality

Have a nice day!..

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/12/2023 10:05 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 8:11 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>>>
>>>>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant
>>>> choice for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the alternative
>>>> (Trump). That said, under Biden's watch, the US has done OK.
>>>
>>> except it's obvious that senile "I'm just following my orders here"
>>> Biden is not really running the show. he's a puppet at best. so who's
>>> pulling the strings?
>>
>> **No idea, but as long as it's not Trump or the GOP criminals who
>> support him (Trump).
>>
>>  it's being said it's Obama. and the Southern border
>>> is a mess. how many terror cells are in the US now, thanks to Biden's
>>> open borders?
>>
>> **Probably none. That's just Howard style scare tactics.
>
> you're so biased it's compromised your rationality

**Not at all. Howard made claims that boat people were possible
terrorists. Same as Trump. In reality, they're most likely just poor
bastards trying to escape death squads and/or extreme poverty. Same as
the poor bastards that Howard claimed that they had thrown their own
children overboard.

The fact is that, like Howard, Trump will lie to frighten the US
population into voting for him. If they do, then Trump will give free
reign to Putin to invade Ukraine and then other European nations. Trump
is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.

[Clocky]

On 27/12/2023 7:05 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 8:11 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>>>
>>>>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant
>>>> choice for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the alternative
>>>> (Trump). That said, under Biden's watch, the US has done OK.
>>>
>>> except it's obvious that senile "I'm just following my orders here"
>>> Biden is not really running the show. he's a puppet at best. so who's
>>> pulling the strings?
>>
>> **No idea, but as long as it's not Trump or the GOP criminals who
>> support him (Trump).
>>
>>  it's being said it's Obama. and the Southern border
>>> is a mess. how many terror cells are in the US now, thanks to Biden's
>>> open borders?
>>
>> **Probably none. That's just Howard style scare tactics.
>
> you're so biased it's compromised your rationality
>

Same could be said about you because you posted a snippet of the end of
a press conference which seems to show Biden was lost for words. But
this has happened to every leader at some point in time and the far
right (and left too) love to take these out of context moments and
string them together to paint a picture of a person that is not accurate
as is the case here.

Biden is not ideal for president granted but Trump is only in it for
himself. He's far from the first but he's so reckless with it - that is
the issue. The fact that he might still be considered by a large
percentage of the population of the US as an option is a sad indictment
on the US and the idea of democracy generally.

[Trevor Wilson]

**I should remind you that Australia is not immune from such idiocy. My
immediate neighbours voted for Craig Kelly many times and my
not-too-far-away neighbours voted for the worst Australian PM in history
- Scott Morrison. And they did so several times.

Yes, I am deeply embarrassed to live among such morons. I NEVER discuss
politics with my neighbours, as there is no point. They are morons.

[Mighty Mouse]

why on earth would he do that?

> Trump is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.
>


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[Noddy]

On 27/12/2023 9:52 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:

>
> **As we have seen here in Australia, the very worst humans can become
> leaders of the country. For example: Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison.

For fuck's sake Trevor, go to a burns unit and get some perspective.

I don't like Tony Abbott or Scott Morrison any more than you do, but the
"very worst humans? You're living *deep* in La-La land if you think that
comment is even *remotely* accurate.

> Thing is this: The US had an excellent choice for POTUS in Hillary
> Clinton.

ROTFL :) You couldn't be any more of a leftie loony if you wanted to be :)



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[Noddy]

On 27/12/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:

> If its a race between Trump and Biden I'd say that the US is totally
> screwed, if that's the best candidates either side can come up with then
> its proof that the US is going down the toilet very fast.
> FFS out of a population of approx 360 million they can't find a decent
> presidential candidate?

I'm sure they can *if* they wanted to, but the problem is that their
political system isn't all that far removed from ours in that they don't
want the "best" candidate for the job. They want the one who going to
poll the most votes.

That Trump should be nominated as the Republican candidate after his
ridiculously nonsensical claims of electoral fraud and inciting the riot
that led to the attempted take-over at Capitol Hill shows anyone that
political parties in the US have no moral standards at all and are
little more than gangsters operating on a legal basis.

With Luck Trump will be convicted and be sent to prison, or
assassinated, or get Cancer from the gravy powder he smears all over his
ugly mug every morning and he'll be out of the picture permanently. But
the odds of any of that preventing him from contesting the election and
winning are remote at best.

Hopefully he'll have a disinfectant vaccination and die a horrible
death, and with luck it will be live on camera so we can all laugh.

[Mighty Mouse]

Clocky wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 7:05 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 27/12/2023 8:11 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 24/12/2023 10:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>>>>

>>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/joe.mp4

>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **America became a joke under Trump. Biden was not a brilliant
>>>>> choice for POTUS, but he is infinitely preferable to the
>>>>> alternative (Trump). That said, under Biden's watch, the US has
>>>>> done OK.
>>>>
>>>> except it's obvious that senile "I'm just following my orders here"
>>>> Biden is not really running the show. he's a puppet at best. so
>>>> who's pulling the strings?
>>>
>>> **No idea, but as long as it's not Trump or the GOP criminals who
>>> support him (Trump).
>>>
>>>  it's being said it's Obama. and the Southern border
>>>> is a mess. how many terror cells are in the US now, thanks to
>>>> Biden's open borders?
>>>
>>> **Probably none. That's just Howard style scare tactics.
>>
>> you're so biased it's compromised your rationality
>>
>
>
> Same could be said about you because you posted a snippet of the end
> of a press conference which seems to show Biden was lost for words.

he's always lost for words. he can't even follow when the words are
right infront of him. he's clearly incapable. look on youtube. there are
dozens of examples. one example I saw today he walked out of a medal of
honor ceremony before it finished! and don't forget the classic shaking
hands with no one..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4b131aHxCs

if you think it's ok for an eighty year old with dementia to be POTUS,
with his hand on the nuclear trigger, then you've got rocks in yer head.
but the reality is he's just a puppet doing what he's told.

> But this has happened to every leader at some point in time

never like this from any other President ever

> and the far right (and left too) love to take these out of context
> moments and string them together to paint a picture of a person that
> is not accurate as is the case here.
>
> Biden is not ideal for president granted but Trump is only in it for
> himself. He's far from the first but he's so reckless with it - that
> is the issue. The fact that he might still be considered by a large
> percentage of the population of the US as an option is a sad
> indictment on the US and the idea of democracy generally.
>


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Have a nice day!..

[Noddy]

On 27/12/2023 10:48 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

> **Not at all. Howard made claims that boat people were possible
> terrorists. Same as Trump. In reality, they're most likely just poor
> bastards trying to escape death squads and/or extreme poverty.

"Most likely"? How is this claim of yours the slightest bit more
reliable than Howards? :)

> Same as the poor bastards that Howard claimed that they had thrown their own
> children overboard.

You mean the "refugees" who paid people smugglers to get to the country
of their choice because they wanted to live here?

I take from this that you are completely unaware that under
international convention ratified by the UN, a person's "refugee" rights
permits them to escape conflict in their own country by travelling to
the *nearest* safe haven, and if you're fleeing Iraq, Iran, Pakistan,
Afghanistan or Sri Lanka that nearest safe haven *isn't* Australia.

Everyone who has come to this country by boat is not a bona fide
"refugee" in the eyes of the United Nations, but rather illegal
immigrants who come here for economic reasons. In doing so they are
breaking the law and we have the right to detain them or kick them out.

It's that simple.

> The fact is that, like Howard, Trump will lie to frighten the US
> population into voting for him. If they do, then Trump will give free
> reign to Putin to invade Ukraine and then other European nations. Trump
> is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.

Take a moment to explain how this is different to any other politician
in any other country on Earth.....

[Mighty Mouse]

Noddy wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 10:48 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **Not at all. Howard made claims that boat people were possible
>> terrorists. Same as Trump. In reality, they're most likely just poor
>> bastards trying to escape death squads and/or extreme poverty.
>
> "Most likely"? How is this claim of yours the slightest bit more
> reliable than Howards? :)
>
>> Same as the poor bastards that Howard claimed that they had thrown
>> their own children overboard.
>
> You mean the "refugees" who paid people smugglers to get to the
> country of their choice because they wanted to live here?
>
> I take from this that you are completely unaware that under
> international convention ratified by the UN, a person's "refugee"
> rights permits them to escape conflict in their own country by
> travelling to the *nearest* safe haven, and if you're fleeing Iraq,
> Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan or Sri Lanka that nearest safe haven
> *isn't* Australia.
>
> Everyone who has come to this country by boat is not a bona fide
> "refugee" in the eyes of the United Nations, but rather illegal
> immigrants who come here for economic reasons. In doing so they are
> breaking the law and we have the right to detain them or kick them out.
>
> It's that simple.

yes it is!

>
>> The fact is that, like Howard, Trump will lie to frighten the US
>> population into voting for him. If they do, then Trump will give free
>> reign to Putin to invade Ukraine and then other European nations.
>> Trump is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.
>
> Take a moment to explain how this is different to any other politician
> in any other country on Earth.....
>
>


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[Noddy]

On 27/12/2023 11:19 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

> **I should remind you that Australia is not immune from such idiocy. My
> immediate neighbours voted for Craig Kelly many times and my
> not-too-far-away neighbours voted for the worst Australian PM in history
> - Scott Morrison. And they did so several times.

Yep. Bob Katter has been in politics for decades, despite him being one
of the most retarded in-bred fuckwits you could ever hope to meet.

> Yes, I am deeply embarrassed to live among such morons. I NEVER discuss
> politics with my neighbours, as there is no point. They are morons.

Given that you believe that Julia Gillard is one of our greatest ever
Prime Ministers, if not *the* greatest, you are in absolutely *no*
position whatsoever to *ever* judge anyone else's political beliefs :)

[Noddy]

On 27/12/2023 6:21 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

> **America became a joke under Trump.

America has been a joke for *many* years.

Remember "Dubya"?

[Clocky]

You're a loon so what you "think" doesn't matter.

[Clocky]

On 24/12/2023 11:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 24/12/2023 7:08 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> the leader of the the free world. what a joke America has become..
>>>
>>> auslink.info/video/joe.mp4
>>>
>>
>> Tsk tsk... that's very selective snipping
>
> you should note the continuous segments
>
>> and for every one of Biden's bad press conferences..
>
> ..there are dozens more!. he doesn't even know where he is or what day
> it is, and he's the Commander in Chief of the armed forces!
>
>> here are probably 10 Trump ones that are far worse
>
> no :)
>
>> - remember Trump suggesting the injecting of disinfectant as a
>> solution to COVID? But you are right, the US certainly lowered it's
>> colours after voting in Trump and it's been a slow recovery ever since
>> that has had a massive setback when the US-Biden administration
>> decided to actively support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by
>> the Zionazi regime.
>>
>>
>
> they're not.

They absolutely are and many non-Zionist Jews are saying exactly that too.

[Clocky]

On 27/12/2023 9:00 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 10:48 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **Not at all. Howard made claims that boat people were possible
>> terrorists. Same as Trump. In reality, they're most likely just poor
>> bastards trying to escape death squads and/or extreme poverty.
>
> "Most likely"? How is this claim of yours the slightest bit more
> reliable than Howards? :)
>
>> Same as the poor bastards that Howard claimed that they had thrown
>> their own children overboard.
>
> You mean the "refugees" who paid people smugglers to get to the country
> of their choice because they wanted to live here?
>
> I take from this that you are completely unaware that under
> international convention ratified by the UN, a person's "refugee" rights
> permits them to escape conflict in their own country by travelling to
> the *nearest* safe haven, and if you're fleeing Iraq, Iran, Pakistan,
> Afghanistan or Sri Lanka that nearest safe haven *isn't* Australia.
>
> Everyone who has come to this country by boat is not a bona fide
> "refugee" in the eyes of the United Nations, but rather illegal
> immigrants who come here for economic reasons.

Things are never that simple unless you're a Murdoch press reading/Sky
news watching moron. You are forced leave your country and you have a
large wad of cash. Do you choose to go to some neighbouring shithole
refugee camp or do you hand over a large wad of cash and try for a
better life elsewhere for your family?

A lot of the people who went to 'safe' refugee camps are still there too
and I bet Australian ones are much better than conditions in those so...

[Xeno]

Because that is Putin’s stated aim. You are reading the wrong news sources.

>
>> Trump is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.
>>

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Xeno

[Clocky]

But you're happy to hand it to a loon like Trump who counts communist
tyrants as his friends, takes home classified documents and flushes them
down the toilet and doesn't even respect democratic process?

C'mon now, Biden is clearly the lesser of two evils here.

[Daryl]

LOL, imagine what they think of your opinions and what names they call
you:-)

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[Daryl]

On 27/12/2023 11:51 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>
>> If its a race between Trump and Biden I'd say that the US is totally
>> screwed, if that's the best candidates either side can come up with
>> then its proof that the US is going down the toilet very fast.
>> FFS out of a population of approx 360 million they can't find a decent
>> presidential candidate?
>
> I'm sure they can *if* they wanted to, but the problem is that their
> political system isn't all that far removed from ours in that they don't
> want the "best" candidate for the job. They want the one who going to
> poll the most votes.

In the US I think its the one who can buy the most votes, money speaks,
honestly and integrity walks.

>
> That Trump should be nominated as the Republican candidate after his
> ridiculously nonsensical claims of electoral fraud and inciting the riot
> that led to the attempted take-over at Capitol Hill shows anyone that
> political parties in the US have no moral standards at all and are
> little more than gangsters operating on a legal basis.
>
> With Luck Trump will be convicted and be sent to prison, or
> assassinated, or get Cancer from the gravy powder he smears all over his
> ugly mug every morning and he'll be out of the picture permanently. But
> the odds of any of that preventing him from contesting the election and
> winning are remote at best.
>
> Hopefully he'll have a disinfectant vaccination and die a horrible
> death, and with luck it will be live on camera so we can all laugh.
>

We can only hope.

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Daryl

[Daryl]

On 27/12/2023 12:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 6:21 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **America became a joke under Trump.
>
> America has been a joke for *many* years.
>
> Remember "Dubya"?
>

When he was in office I thought that "Dubya" was a bumbling fool but
long after he was no longer President I saw him interviewed at his ranch
by a car show (possibly Jay Leno but I can't remember exactly who) and
he seemed like a decent intelligent old man.
Maybe the pressure of the office was too much for him?
My US born mate says that in his opinion Ronald Regan was by far the
best US President yet I thought that Regan was a blithering idiot, go
figure?


Daryl

[TripleK]

Noddy wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 10:48 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **Not at all. Howard made claims that boat people were possible
>> terrorists. Same as Trump. In reality, they're most likely just poor
>> bastards trying to escape death squads and/or extreme poverty.
>
> "Most likely"? How is this claim of yours the slightest bit more
> reliable than Howards? :)

1) Well he's not a politician.
2) Neither has he any connection to Murdoch.

>> Same as the poor bastards that Howard claimed that they had thrown
>> their own children overboard.
>
> You mean the "refugees" who paid people smugglers to get to the country
> of their choice because they wanted to live here?

THE BASTARDS! The fucking nerve of these people! Fancy wanting a better
life for their families. It's disgusting!

> I take from this that you are completely unaware that under
> international convention ratified by the UN, a person's "refugee" rights
> permits them to escape conflict in their own country by travelling to
> the *nearest* safe haven, and if you're fleeing Iraq, Iran, Pakistan,
> Afghanistan or Sri Lanka that nearest safe haven *isn't* Australia.
>
> Everyone who has come to this country by boat is not a bona fide
> "refugee" in the eyes of the United Nations, but rather illegal
> immigrants who come here for economic reasons.

Jeez cobber!! So according to that we should be able to piss off all the
10 pound pommy bastards, and their chinless descendants, plus all those
wogs who sailed their greasy way here in the 1950s!!

> In doing so they are
> breaking the law and we have the right to detain them or kick them out.

YAIR! Fuck 'em all off! Onya Dazza!!!

> It's that simple.

Just because you are incredibly simple Fraudster this does not qualify
you to decree what *is* simple.


alvey

[alvey]

Clocky wrote:


>
> Biden is not ideal for president granted but Trump is only in it for
> himself. He's far from the first but he's so reckless with it - that is
> the issue. The fact that he might still be considered by a large
> percentage of the population of the US as an option is a sad indictment
> on the US and the idea of democracy generally.

One of the many things that worries me about a second Trump term is the
possibility that he'll corrupt enough institutions to enable him to
implement Plan F... Establish a dynasty.



alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

no, I'm asking why would Trump support Putin?

>>> Trump is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.
>>>
> ____
> Xeno
>
>

[Trevor Wilson]

**Like I care what morons think of me. They're morons. Their opinions
are worthless.

[Trevor Wilson]

**Indeed. His plans are already afoot. He has a list.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/22/trump-revenge-game-plan-alarm

If you're on the list, you're out of a job. At the very least.

Trump and his supporters are extremely dangerous. I fear for the planet
if Trump is re-elected. The US will be a REALLY fucked place for a long
time, as the usual checks and balances are systematically eliminated.

[Trevor Wilson]

**Reagan was merely an actor who recalled his lines when needed. He was
totally under the control of the GOP behind the scenes figures.

[Keithr0]

Where is the good ol' US presidential assassin when we need him?

[Keithr0]

Regan was good at his career job, reading the lines that others had
written for him.

[Trevor Wilson]

**First you need to understand a couple of things:

* Trump is in serious financial trouble. His net worth is something like
US$2.5 billion. His liabilities are unknown, but could almost equal that
amount.
* Putin 'owns' the entire Russian economy. It is, effectively, all his
to do with what he wishes, when he wishes. That makes Putin worth AT
LEAST US$200 billion and, more likely a couple of TRILLION DOLLARS.
Putin is, far and away, the richest person on the planet.
* Trump wants to deal with Putin. If Trump can access a minute fraction
of Putin's cash, that will make Trump's financial problems disappear.
* Putin helped Trump with his election bids and is already acting to
help Trump in his next election bid. Trump owes Putin.
* It is probable that Putin has some kind of blackmail information that
could cause Trump enormous difficulty.

[Xeno]

On 27/12/2023 4:44 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:

Because Putin would support Trump getting back into the White House.
Russia *needs* Trump in the White House.

>
>>>> Trump is an utterly UNTHINKABLE choice for POTUS.
>>>>
>> ____
>> Xeno
>>


--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

[Trevor Wilson]

**How many secret service agents would be willing to place themselves
between Trump and a bullet?

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/12/2023 12:03 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 11:19 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **I should remind you that Australia is not immune from such idiocy.
>> My immediate neighbours voted for Craig Kelly many times and my
>> not-too-far-away neighbours voted for the worst Australian PM in
>> history - Scott Morrison. And they did so several times.
>
> Yep. Bob Katter has been in politics for decades, despite him being one
> of the most retarded in-bred fuckwits you could ever hope to meet.

**Well, Queensland has Hanson as well. Queenslanders are, well, not too
bright.

>
>> Yes, I am deeply embarrassed to live among such morons. I NEVER
>> discuss politics with my neighbours, as there is no point. They are
>> morons.
>
> Given that you believe that Julia Gillard is one of our greatest ever
> Prime Ministers, if not *the* greatest,

**I NEVER made such a claim. I DID say that she was the best of RECENT
PMs. I would extend that to say that she was the best in my lifetime.

you are in absolutely *no*
> position whatsoever to *ever* judge anyone else's political beliefs :)

**Sure I am.

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/12/2023 12:04 pm, Noddy wrote:

> On 27/12/2023 6:21 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **America became a joke under Trump.
>
> America has been a joke for *many* years.
>
> Remember "Dubya"?
>

**Dubya was bad, but Reagan was way worse. Trump was the worst.

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/12/2023 11:42 am, Noddy wrote:

> On 27/12/2023 9:52 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>
>>

>> **As we have seen here in Australia, the very worst humans can become
>> leaders of the country. For example: Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison.
>
> For fuck's sake Trevor, go to a burns unit and get some perspective.
>
> I don't like Tony Abbott or Scott Morrison any more than you do, but the
> "very worst humans? You're living *deep* in La-La land if you think that
> comment is even *remotely* accurate.

**Abbott is STILL banging on with his climate change denial shit,
despite being told, in no uncertain terms, byt real scientists, that
climate change is a big problem and it is caused by humans. Morrison is
just a plain shitful, disgusting, lying human being.The worst PM we've
ever had. Worse than Abbott.

>
>> Thing is this: The US had an excellent choice for POTUS in Hillary
>> Clinton.
>
> ROTFL :) You couldn't be any more of a leftie loony if you wanted to be :)

**OK then. Spell out, PRECISELY, why Hillary Clinton would have been
worse than Trump. Don't forget: Despite Trump's attempts, the DoJ and
the FBI found Hillary Clinton guilty of nothing. OTOH, Trump is facing
NINETY ONE trials and more to come. Trump is rotten to the core. Hillary
Clinton is (VERY) intelligent, articulate, caring and, most importantly,
cares about Democracy itself.

https://www.thoughtco.com/hillary-clinton-s-accomplishments-4101811

[Keithr0]

On 27/12/2023 7:50 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 12:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 6:21 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> **America became a joke under Trump.
>>
>> America has been a joke for *many* years.
>>
>> Remember "Dubya"?
>>
>
> **Dubya was bad, but Reagan was way worse. Trump was the worst.
>

Reagan was a poor senile old man who did what he was told. It wasn't
recognised at the time, but when he took a bullet in the chest, his
brain went without oxygen for an extended period. He wasn't exactly
brilliant before that, but afterward he was totally fucked.

Dubya was about as bright as a box of rocks.

Trump is just an evil narcissist.

[Xeno]

Darren *invented* a complete career in automotive for himself in order
to gain credibility here in this forum so *anything* and *everything* he
says needs to be taken with a truckload of salt.

[Noddy]

On 27/12/2023 8:56 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 11:42 am, Noddy wrote:

>> I don't like Tony Abbott or Scott Morrison any more than you do, but
>> the "very worst humans? You're living *deep* in La-La land if you
>> think that comment is even *remotely* accurate.
>
> **Abbott is STILL banging on with his climate change denial shit,
> despite being told, in no uncertain terms, byt real scientists, that
> climate change is a big problem and it is caused by humans. Morrison is
> just a plain shitful, disgusting, lying human being.The worst PM we've
> ever had. Worse than Abbott.

You need a *massive* reality check here Trevor, as to look back at some
of the worst humans over the course of history and think that Tony
Abbott and Scott Morrison rank amongst them shows a level of delusion
that is as extreme as it is utterly ridiculous.

>>
>>> Thing is this: The US had an excellent choice for POTUS in Hillary
>>> Clinton.
>>
>> ROTFL :) You couldn't be any more of a leftie loony if you wanted to
>> be :)
>
> **OK then. Spell out, PRECISELY, why Hillary Clinton would have been
> worse than Trump.

Who said anything about her being better than Trump? I was just amused
about the idea of you thinking she was an excellent choice when for most
of her political career she's been about as popular as dog shit on the
sole of anyone's shoe :)

> Don't forget: Despite Trump's attempts, the DoJ and
> the FBI found Hillary Clinton guilty of nothing. OTOH, Trump is facing
> NINETY ONE trials and more to come. Trump is rotten to the core. Hillary
> Clinton is (VERY) intelligent, articulate, caring and, most importantly,
> cares about Democracy itself.
>
> https://www.thoughtco.com/hillary-clinton-s-accomplishments-4101811

If you're generally interested in her "achievements", then I'd suggest
you read with an open mind. Try here:

> https://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/article/2016/07/16-hillary-clintons-most-controversial-statements

And here:

> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41244474

I particularly like the last one, as it's a perfect example of her
blaming everyone else for her failures *but* herself :)