Chrysler Valiant Hemi 245 265 Starter motor same?

[cmre...@yahoo.com.au]

Hello All,

I have a 1979 CM Regal SE with 265 Hemi with stuffed Starter Motor, I
was offered a Starter Motor from 245 Hemi 1976 CL ute Cheap. Are they
the same or did Chrysler change the Starter Motor somewhere between
the CL to CM
Series as I was told years ago. I really need your help. Thanks in
advance, Merv Stent

[TT]

<cmre...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Providing that they came out of a vehicle with the *same* gearbox yes they
are.

Chrysler/Valiant had a nasty habit of changing the number of teeth on the
ring gear. Easy solution is to count the teeth on your starter motor (IIRC
9 or 10) if they are the same number then it will fit.

Cheers TT

[Albm&ctd]

In article <8a643439-539d-46a2-b3ad-
3831a1...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, cmre...@yahoo.com.au
says...

I can't say 100% but for what it's worth most will interchange, bearing
in mind the starter drive (pinion). You may be able to interchange parts
with the good starter to the stuffed one depending on what is wrong with
it. They are not hard to work on, pull apart. You can get new solenoid
kits even now as far as I know. Brushes are cheap. They normally are a
Bosch reduction starter and some of the early ones broke the pinion
shaft. A bit more info of the symptoms of the starter might be helpful.

Al
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[Jason James]

<cmre...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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I put a 265 into a 245 CM. The starters was not changed. IIRC there is a
hole in the automatic gearbox housing which supports the starter front
bush-housing. Both engines were driving thru a BW auto. You'll have no
problem.

Jason

[RogerM]

"TT" <TTence...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Yes, TT's suggestion is probably the easiest way to check. I'm fairly
confident the ring gear on the CM WAS changed during it's lifetime so they
had two versions. If I remember correctly there was a prefix code letter in
the parts book where the change took place. They had quite a bit of trouble
with the starters on most of their later models thus the changes.
If all else fails, would the guy let you try it first as I wouldn't imagine
he'd want too much for it as the demand wouldn't be too great?

Roger

[John_H]

cmre...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>
>I have a 1979 CM Regal SE with 265 Hemi with stuffed Starter Motor, I
>was offered a Starter Motor from 245 Hemi 1976 CL ute Cheap. Are they
>the same or did Chrysler change the Starter Motor somewhere between
>the CL to CM

As others have mentioned, the only part that might be different is the
pinion (count the teeth). If the pinion and its clutch (they come as
a unit) in your original starter is still OK it's no big deal to swap
them over if you needed to.

--
John H

[John McKenzie]

I'm not sure what the pinion count is, but you can _easily_ pick the
early and late starters by the _length_ of the pinion, one is a good
4-5mm longer than the other. If they both _look_ identical you're fine.

If that's sounding vague, let me know, I'll upload a picture of each to
some webspace.

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John McKenzie

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