Haltech aftermarket ECU

[Daryl]

Just installed a Haltec on my sons little Daihatsu 1995 Mira into which
I also installed a later model engine out of a 2005 Charade.
Power increase is about 48% if the replacement engine has stock output,
hoping to get more with the Haltech :-)
Had a few problems sorting out the "trigger" but after they connected to
the ECU via my laptop they sorted it out and the engine now starts and
idles.
Still needs more work such as fitting an exhaust then it can go off to a
dyno to be tuned, I'm mentioning this because I found Haltech tech
support to be excellent, highly recommend them if for nothing else other
than their excellent support.


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Daryl

[Clocky]

On 2/06/2021 12:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
> Just installed a Haltec on my sons little Daihatsu 1995 Mira into which
> I also installed a later model engine out of a 2005 Charade.
> Power increase is about 48% if the replacement engine has stock output,
> hoping to get more with the Haltech :-)

I worked for Daihatsu. The 2005 Charade is a 3 cylinder 1L engine and
48% faster still makes it as slow as a wet week.
The engine to go for would be the Copen engine which has a turbo. If
you're talking about the 4 cylinder Charade then it wasn't a 2005 model.

> Had a few problems sorting out the "trigger" but after they connected to
> the ECU via my laptop they sorted it out and the engine now starts and
> idles.
> Still needs more work such as fitting an exhaust then it can go off to a
> dyno to be tuned, I'm mentioning this because I found Haltech tech
> support to be excellent, highly recommend them if for nothing else other
> than their excellent support.
>
>

LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's completely
wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.

[Falscher Bruce]

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
> >
> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's completely
> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.

On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss

[Noddy]

Sounds cool.




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Regards,
Noddy.

[Xeno]

Sounds like the correct way to go. That said, fuel injection is way
above your pay grade Darren. Stick with carburettors - lawnmower
carburettors, they are all you're qualified for.


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Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

[Daryl]

On 2/6/21 9:17 pm, Noddy wrote:

> Thanks, I'm looking forward to driving it.
The Haltech is probably worth more than the car but its not my money:-)
Just when I think I can relax oldest son wants me to look at his M3
which is doing some weird shit, the check engine light appears and it
run like crap, clear the code and it runs fine till the code comes back?
At least I have something to use my new scan tool on:-)

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Daryl

[Noddy]

On 2/06/2021 10:35 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 2/6/21 9:17 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> Still needs more work such as fitting an exhaust then it can go off
>>> to a dyno to be tuned, I'm mentioning this because I found Haltech
>>> tech support to be excellent, highly recommend them if for nothing
>>> else other than their excellent support.
>>
>> Sounds cool.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, I'm looking forward to driving it.
> The Haltech is probably worth more than the car but its not my money:-)

That always makes it fun :)

> Just when I think I can relax oldest son wants me to look at his M3
> which is doing some weird shit, the check engine light appears and it
> run like crap, clear the code and it runs fine till the code comes back?
> At least I have something to use my new scan tool on:-)

You know you want to :)

[Clocky]

The tool is only as good as the operator.

Interesting to note that had an enemy posted this it wouldn't be "cool"
and he would be on the attack.

[Clocky]

That's true but OTOH you could do the same on an old Buick powered
Commodore and actually see and feel a difference and actually have
something fun to drive instead of that horrible little shit box.

[Noddy]

You'd have to come up with some utterly insane settings to blow up an
engine. Make it run like shit? sure. Blow it up? highly unlikely.

[Clocky]

Still much more likely than you being a qualified mechanic.

[Daryl]

Especially when its a stock engine and you can connect to Haltech
remotely and they can do a basic tune.
I just changed the engine oil and filter and flushed the old coolant,
bleed the cooling system and got it hot enough for the thermostat to
open, we were told that the car that the engine can out of sat for about
15yrs, car was only a couple of years old new when it had a big hit up
the rear, only done 33,000km.
I got it started before I removed it from the wreck and it ran well, the
AC even worked.
Needs tuning to get it to 100% but so far so good.

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Daryl

[Noddy]

On 3/06/2021 11:59 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 3/6/21 11:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 2/06/2021 8:19 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's
>>>> completely
>>>> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.
>>
>>> On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a
>>> 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss
>>
>> You'd have to come up with some utterly insane settings to blow up an
>> engine. Make it run like shit? sure. Blow it up? highly unlikely.
>>
>>
> Especially when its a stock engine and you can connect to Haltech
> remotely and they can do a basic tune.

Yeah, that's one of their really cool features. I had a *little* bit of
experience with that last year just before Covid hit, and the blokes at
Haltech were pretty cool. Unfortunately they couldn't solve the
particular problem at the time, but it wasn't their fault.

> I just changed the engine oil and filter and flushed the old coolant,
> bleed the cooling system and got it hot enough for the thermostat to
> open, we were told that the car that the engine can out of sat for about
> 15yrs, car was only a couple of years old new when it had a big hit up
> the rear, only done 33,000km.
> I got it started before I removed it from the wreck and it ran well, the
> AC even worked.
> Needs tuning to get it to 100% but so far so good.

Excellent. Should be a fun project.

[Xeno]

On 3/6/21 11:11 am, Noddy wrote:

You managed it with Les' engine. Quite easily too. Amazing what a lack
of knowledge can do.

[Xeno]

On 3/6/21 1:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/06/2021 11:59 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 3/6/21 11:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 2/06/2021 8:19 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's
>>>>> completely
>>>>> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a
>>>> 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss
>>>
>>> You'd have to come up with some utterly insane settings to blow up an
>>> engine. Make it run like shit? sure. Blow it up? highly unlikely.
>>>
>>>
>> Especially when its a stock engine and you can connect to Haltech
>> remotely and they can do a basic tune.
>
> Yeah, that's one of their really cool features. I had a *little* bit of
> experience with that last year just before Covid hit, and the blokes at

Read: *no experience*, story just invented it *on the fly*.

> Haltech were pretty cool. Unfortunately they couldn't solve the
> particular problem at the time, but it wasn't their fault.
>
>> I just changed the engine oil and filter and flushed the old coolant,
>> bleed the cooling system and got it hot enough for the thermostat to
>> open, we were told that the car that the engine can out of sat for
>> about 15yrs, car was only a couple of years old new when it had a big
>> hit up the rear, only done 33,000km.
>> I got it started before I removed it from the wreck and it ran well,
>> the AC even worked.
>> Needs tuning to get it to 100% but so far so good.
>
> Excellent. Should be a fun project.
>
>
>


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[Xeno]

Or you could just go out and buy one of these;

https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_daihatsu_charade_turbo

They were very fast, beaten only by the Nissan Pulsar EXA. I have driven
plenty of the NA 3 cylinder 1 litre Charades and they were quite
reasonable. The Nissan EXA is one early turbo beast I have had
experience with back in 1984, it was near new and it was damn fast,
scary fast. Apparently the turbo charade wasn't all that far behind in
the performance stakes. That said, the EXA had a 1.5 litre 4 cylinder
engine so one could expect it to be faster, especially given the power
to weight advantage.

[Clocky]

On 3/06/2021 2:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/6/21 12:00 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 2/06/2021 6:19 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's
>>>> completely
>>>> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.
>>> On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a
>>> 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss
>>>
>>
>> That's true but OTOH you could do the same on an old Buick powered
>> Commodore and actually see and feel a difference and actually have
>> something fun to drive instead of that horrible little shit box.
>
> Or you could just go out and buy one of these;
>
> https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_daihatsu_charade_turbo
>
> They were very fast, beaten only by the Nissan Pulsar EXA. I have driven
> plenty of the NA 3 cylinder 1 litre Charades and they were quite
> reasonable.

NA ones were dog slow and suffered from premature clutch failure en
masse at 40-60,000km. I would line them up - drive (or pushed) onto the
hoist, pull shafts, R/R gearbox, replace clutch and back together back
in the parking lot ready for the next one in 25 minutes flat.
Cleaned up big on bonuses.

They also had an idle issue caused by a faulty idle solenoid. That was
an easy fix though.

The Nissan EXA is one early turbo beast I have had
> experience with back in 1984, it was near new and it was damn fast,
> scary fast. Apparently the turbo charade wasn't all that far behind in
> the performance stakes. That said, the EXA had a 1.5 litre 4 cylinder
> engine so one could expect it to be faster, especially given the power
> to weight advantage.
>

The four cylinder Charades were a pretty good little bus.

[Clocky]

On 3/06/2021 11:05 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/06/2021 11:59 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 3/6/21 11:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 2/06/2021 8:19 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's
>>>>> completely
>>>>> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a
>>>> 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss
>>>
>>> You'd have to come up with some utterly insane settings to blow up an
>>> engine. Make it run like shit? sure. Blow it up? highly unlikely.
>>>
>>>
>> Especially when its a stock engine and you can connect to Haltech
>> remotely and they can do a basic tune.
>
> Yeah, that's one of their really cool features. I had a *little* bit of
> experience with that last year

99.87% chance that is a lie.

[Yosemite Sam]

On 3/06/2021 4:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/6/21 1:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 3/06/2021 11:59 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 3/6/21 11:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 2/06/2021 8:19 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a
>>>>> 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss
>>>>
>>>> You'd have to come up with some utterly insane settings to blow up
>>>> an engine. Make it run like shit? sure. Blow it up? highly unlikely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Especially when its a stock engine and you can connect to Haltech
>>> remotely and they can do a basic tune.
>>
>> Yeah, that's one of their really cool features. I had a *little* bit
>> of experience with that last year just before Covid hit, and the
>> blokes at
>
> Read: *no experience*, story just invented it *on the fly*.

yep

>
>> Haltech were pretty cool. Unfortunately they couldn't solve the
>> particular problem at the time, but it wasn't their fault.
>>
>>> I just changed the engine oil and filter and flushed the old
>>> coolant, bleed the cooling system and got it hot enough for the
>>> thermostat to open, we were told that the car that the engine can
>>> out of sat for about 15yrs, car was only a couple of years old new
>>> when it had a big hit up the rear, only done 33,000km.
>>> I got it started before I removed it from the wreck and it ran well,
>>> the AC even worked.
>>> Needs tuning to get it to 100% but so far so good.
>>
>> Excellent. Should be a fun project.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

[Clocky]

On 3/06/2021 1:59 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/6/21 11:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 2/06/2021 8:19 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+8, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> LOL, yeah but the Haltech is the only thing of value and it's
>>>> completely
>>>> wasted on a 95 Mira in any event.
>>
>>> On the other hand, if you want to learn ECU tweaking, put it on a
>>> 3-cylinder shitbox. If you blow up the powertrain, it's no great loss
>>
>> You'd have to come up with some utterly insane settings to blow up an
>> engine. Make it run like shit? sure. Blow it up? highly unlikely.
>
> You managed it with Les' engine. Quite easily too. Amazing what a lack
> of knowledge can do.
>
>

What else would you expect from a faker that thinks the bearing assembly
aids as there to lock the bearing in place and stop it spinning?

Anyone with such a fundamental lack of understanding should never be let
anywhere near any engine.

[Xeno]

Yep, had one in the family, went very well. 1.3 litre, IIRC.

[Xeno]

99.99999999999%

[Xeno]

But putting a *shim* head gasket on an engine that was already a
*performance beast* and expecting the valves not to hit the piston on
overshoot at high RPM was just plain incompetent. At a bare minimum, a
check for piston to valve clearance is warranted under the
circumstances. Another check on those is *valve to valve clearance,
another critical measurement. In both cases, insufficient clearance will
cause issues at extremely high RPM. Where did it blow up? On Con Rod
Straight at extremely high RPM. Says it all really. And the Noddy clown
tried to pass it off as a faulty valve! Hahahahaha

Yep, he has a fundamental lack of understanding, no doubt about it.