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KSH

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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I know in a Street Machine Mag years ago there was someone who put a VN 5lt
in a R31 Skyline wagon. So obviously it can be done.

Kyle

Marco Spaccavento wrote in message <88ikj0$17m7$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>...
>Does anyone know of a V8 conversion having been done into one of there
>R31-series cars? Given that it shares the 6-cyl engine with the VL, it
>would not be inconcievable for a Holden 5.0 to fit in there?
>
>Marco...having some more thoughts about sleepers he'd like to build
>--


Conn

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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but it shouldn't be done, IMHO... same way people shouldn't put 350 Chevs or
even 5 litre holden or ford engines into those early model toranas... they
actually jump out of their lane at the drags, if you've noticed.

Conn
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make sure there's something interesting to watch.
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KSH

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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You could always just bolt on the turbo gear from a vl. Cheaper, easier,
less weight and more power.

Kyle

Matt Jurkans

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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Personally I'd drop an RB25DET in it, RB26DETT if you can afford it.
Will have better performance and fuel economy and likely to actually be
legal :)

Matt

Paulmac

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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In article <38ACE8DC...@wantree.com.au>,

Matt Jurkans <jur...@wantree.com.au> wrote:
> Personally I'd drop an RB25DET in it, RB26DETT if you can afford it.

You obviously know your engine options Matt, I was looking at a Suby
turbo Q/cam front cut yesterday [for our VW] and saw some awsome Nissan
motor deals. Our friend would be well served to do as you suggest and
bolt in 300+ easy 6cyl HP AND be legal! See Mick Kent, get
address/phone at http://www.justjap.com.au he was very helpful to me
yesterday and also 'Street Heat Technical Tips #8' has a good section
on Nissan transplant options.
Paul McIlwraith
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Conn

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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fair enough... but a pintara? i know a skyline had the RB30, and i know all
the rest, but really, a sleeper could be better built with an '82 model
honda civic, and the front half of a taurus (if you remember, we were going
to do that with grant's car <g>)

really, though... go the mods with the VP... parts will be about a thousand
times cheaper, and alot less hassle re: engine bays and mounts.

i can think up all sorts of fun things to do with that VP... ahh, fresh
meat.

Conn
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make sure there's something interesting to watch.
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Marco Spaccavento <obe...@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> John Mackesy wrote in message <88j532$29o$1...@possum.melbpc.org.au>...
> >I must be missing something here - Skyline and Pintara are IMHO
++ordinary
> >4-door family barges, esp the Pintara. Surely it would be better to save
> >your pennies and *invest* in something a little less unsporting? Or are
we
> >talking the dead hand of conservatism and convention here?
>
>
> The "ordinary 4 door family barge" thing is exactly the point you're
> missing - I really really like the idea of the sleeper - possibly even
more
> than I like the idea of the overtly sporting car. And if people can do
> insane things to ordinary Falcons and Commodes, no reason why I shouldn't
do
> something similarly insane to a Pintara :-)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> M a r c o S p a c c a v e n t o
> obe...@netspace.net.au - ICQ #20196867
> "Water into wine? No problem. Just a vineyard and a hosepipe...and let a
> few seasons pass.
> You need to think in terms of months and years, not days and weeks. Is
> that bad news?
> Only if what you're after is not worth waiting for."
>
> *** The RB Gemini Web Page:
> http://www.netspace.net.au/~oberhst/RBGemini.html ***
>
>
>
>

Marco Spaccavento

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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Conn wrote in message <88l85c$ptl$1...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>...

>fair enough... but a pintara? i know a skyline had the RB30, and i know all
>the rest, but really, a sleeper could be better built with an '82 model
>honda civic, and the front half of a taurus (if you remember, we were going
>to do that with grant's car <g>)

Nah, it'd still be FWD and torque steer all over the place :-)

>really, though... go the mods with the VP... parts will be about a thousand
>times cheaper, and alot less hassle re: engine bays and mounts.


Yeah...I don't really intend to play with the VP all that much initially,
but I see your point there. This "V8 Pintara" thing was just another of
those madman ideas that I think up and look into every now and again. Of
course, no reason I couldn't build both, I intend to own more than one car
at a time in future.

Marco Spaccavento

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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John Mackesy wrote in message <88jdak$2u5$1...@possum.melbpc.org.au>...
>I'd suggest there's more to motoring than power-to-weight ratio - a V8
>powered (any V8) Skyline/Pintara is a blunt instrument any way you look at
>it. By the time you turn it into a finely honed instrument, you will have
>spent more than the cost of a REAL sporting car.


That's probably true - I guess it all depends on where your priorities lay.

>Anyway, who cares about thing like Pintaras and their ilk? They were
>designed to be as inoffensive as possible to as many people as possible -
>something like a Hyundai Excel.

Certainly, I'm no diehard fan of the Pintara, least of all in R31 form. The
Skyline I could probably happily own. But the more inoffensive a fast car
is, the more it's likely that everyone else would be stunned when they are
beaten by one, and the less likely it is to be stolen from your average
shopping centre carpark if it looks innocent enough.

Marco Spaccavento

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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Stan Marsh wrote in message <88jfdg$5ot$1...@news1.mpx.com.au>...
>What about dropping a VR6 into an early model VW golf? Its a bit of a
>squeeze, but it would be a great sleeper - who thinks a golf's gunna beat
>them at the stop lights? Aparantly they get a bit nose heavy and tend to
>understeer. What about a 1.8T motor with upgraded chip? Same as that used
>in the TT. Sorry about the vw suggestions - I just dont like nissans hehe.
>Pete


That's okay, I like Nissans but I don't like VWs :-) More to the point, if
I'm going to consider a quick FWD car then I'll stick a Lotus Elan engine in
my RB Gemini.

jokev

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Well, school's back now I s'pose, with a bit of luck we won't hear from
Forg!
"Forg" <fo...@zip.com.au> wrote in message
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> Paulmac wrote:
> >
> > In article <38ACE8DC...@wantree.com.au>,
> > Matt Jurkans <jur...@wantree.com.au> wrote:
> > > Personally I'd drop an RB25DET in it, RB26DETT if you can afford it.
> >
> > You obviously know your engine options Matt, I was looking at a Suby
> > turbo Q/cam front cut yesterday [for our VW]
> ...
>
> Beware! Don't buy ann EJ20T from before about 1995 ... the '94 and older
> Liberties had some head problems, and if you get one that's got the
> problem, it may not be obvious until after the engine's out of warranty.
>
>
> --
> Forg! -DUH#6=- (Y1)
>
> "Flamin' heck; another Volvo Driver!"
>
> "...
> Another Turnip Boy;
> A Forg stuck in the road
> ..."
> [Greenday]

Charlie

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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jokev wrote:

> Well, school's back now I s'pose, with a bit of luck we won't hear from
> Forg!

Do you have this problem since forg told you to piss off about your car bra?
or is there a slightly less laughable reason for this ongoing stupidity?

Marco Spaccavento

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Forg wrote in message <38AE8FCA...@zip.com.au>...
>Marco Spaccavento wrote:
>...

>> More to the point, if
>> I'm going to consider a quick FWD car then I'll stick a Lotus Elan engine
in
>> my RB Gemini.

>
>Froody!! That never occurred to me; what a great idea!! :-)


It occurred to me because I'm a really together guy. A really, amazingly
together guy :-)

Seriously, though, both the RB's 1.5 and the Elan engine are from the same
family, so there's a lot more going for it than the casual observer might
immediately assume. I once put the data for the Elan engine into CarTest in
the RB body and although I don't remember the exact figures it came up with,
it was somewhere around WRX times in a straight line.

Marco Spaccavento

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Greg Stewart wrote in message <38AF3F61...@bigpond.com>...
>Who is this guy and what's his problem???


I'd say Forg had a (deserved) go at him for his weekly posting of his bloody
car-bra ad....

Forg

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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Marco Spaccavento wrote:
>
> Greg Stewart wrote in message <38AF3F61...@bigpond.com>...
> >Who is this guy and what's his problem???
>
> I'd say Forg had a (deserved) go at him for his weekly posting of his bloody
> car-bra ad....
...

Well actually, I hinted about it not having any effect the first two
weeks, then said please don't do it as it's getting annoying the next
week or two, then dropped the please, then replied "piss off" to every
post ... apparently he couldn't take it. Oh well, if you can't stand the
heat, stop cookin' the spam, I say! :-)

Neil Fisher

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:25:02 +1100, "Marco Spaccavento"
<obe...@netspace.net.au>, with a thumbnail dipped in tar, wrote:

>
>Conn wrote in message <88l85c$ptl$1...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>...
>>fair enough... but a pintara? i know a skyline had the RB30, and i know all
>>the rest, but really, a sleeper could be better built with an '82 model
>>honda civic, and the front half of a taurus (if you remember, we were going
>>to do that with grant's car <g>)
>
>Nah, it'd still be FWD and torque steer all over the place :-)
>
>>really, though... go the mods with the VP... parts will be about a thousand
>>times cheaper, and alot less hassle re: engine bays and mounts.
>
>
>Yeah...I don't really intend to play with the VP all that much initially,
>but I see your point there. This "V8 Pintara" thing was just another of
>those madman ideas that I think up and look into every now and again. Of
>course, no reason I couldn't build both, I intend to own more than one car
>at a time in future.
>

If you eventually do this, and you start with a Skyline, I hope you
intend to fit Pintara badges to it and a stealth exhaust (ie dump pipe
invisible, drinking straw tip plainly visible). Te he - a *good*
sleeper.

Neil
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Marco Spaccavento

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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Neil Fisher wrote in message <38b1b46c...@news.zeta.org.au>...

>If you eventually do this, and you start with a Skyline, I hope you
>intend to fit Pintara badges to it and a stealth exhaust (ie dump pipe
>invisible, drinking straw tip plainly visible). Te he - a *good*
>sleeper.


Absolutely - I'll even try to find one in a bodgy colour, like beige or
brown or maybe that lovely aqua-turquoise colour I've seen Pintaras in :-)

Neil Fisher

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:08:13 +1100, "Marco Spaccavento"

<obe...@netspace.net.au>, with a thumbnail dipped in tar, wrote:

>
>Neil Fisher wrote in message <38b1b46c...@news.zeta.org.au>...
>>If you eventually do this, and you start with a Skyline, I hope you
>>intend to fit Pintara badges to it and a stealth exhaust (ie dump pipe
>>invisible, drinking straw tip plainly visible). Te he - a *good*
>>sleeper.
>
>
>Absolutely - I'll even try to find one in a bodgy colour, like beige or
>brown or maybe that lovely aqua-turquoise colour I've seen Pintaras in :-)
>

All three! (various parts) And you forgot primer grey and matt black
as possabilities ;-)

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