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Bramante M Perkasa

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
good as home cinema system.

Where can I find such system for my car?

Regards,
Bramante M Perkasa

Matthew McDonald

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:36:06 +0000, Bramante M Perkasa
<per...@upnaway.com> wrote:

>Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
>good as home cinema system.
>
>Where can I find such system for my car?

EF and EL Fairmont Ghia.


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Chris G

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Bramante M Perkasa wrote in message <38111F...@upnaway.com>...

>Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
>good as home cinema system.
>
>Where can I find such system for my car?

hehe Those stocko speakers in the back of my Silvia are supposed to be
Dolby Surround or something. I know they're made of carbon fibre, but I
have never used them - they're still there to let thieves think my stereo is
still standard.

Chris

>
>Regards,
>Bramante M Perkasa


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Matthew McDonald

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:06:58 +1000, "Chris G" <ga...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>
>Bramante M Perkasa wrote in message <38111F...@upnaway.com>...
>>Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
>>good as home cinema system.
>>
>>Where can I find such system for my car?
>
>hehe Those stocko speakers in the back of my Silvia are supposed to be
>Dolby Surround or something. I know they're made of carbon fibre, but I
>have never used them - they're still there to let thieves think my stereo is
>still standard.

How can speakers be Dolby Surround? Dolby Labs license their
technology for use in amps etc.

Cameron Bell

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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Matt,

Are you sure its actually pro-logic? Or are you getting confused with Dolby
NR (noise reduction - type B, C etc.. used on tape decks)?
Just wondering, as if it were pro-logic it would require a center channel
speaker, which I havent seen myself in this particular model. And why would
you listen to music in pro-logic anyway?

Cheers,
Cameron

Matthew McDonald <mat...@matthewREMOVEmcdonald.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:36:06 +0000, Bramante M Perkasa
> <per...@upnaway.com> wrote:
>

> >Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
> >good as home cinema system.
> >
> >Where can I find such system for my car?
>

> EF and EL Fairmont Ghia.
>
>

Michael Hansen

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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Cameron Bell wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> Are you sure its actually pro-logic? Or are you getting confused with Dolby
> NR (noise reduction - type B, C etc.. used on tape decks)?
> Just wondering, as if it were pro-logic it would require a center channel
> speaker, which I havent seen myself in this particular model. And why would
> you listen to music in pro-logic anyway?
>
> Cheers,
> Cameron
>

Yep, housemates EF2 Ghia has no mention of Pro-Logic, as in Dolby. It's
got some fancy "surround" type decoding though, with all the different
types of "sound field" like stadium, studio, and my favourite, space ;-)

-- Mike (EL2XR8 - 6th floor, appliances. Going up!)

Chris G

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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>Yep, housemates EF2 Ghia has no mention of Pro-Logic, as in Dolby. It's
>got some fancy "surround" type decoding though, with all the different
>types of "sound field" like stadium, studio, and my favourite, space ;-)

LOL, good old DSP (kind of)? :)

Chris

>
>-- Mike (EL2XR8 - 6th floor, appliances. Going up!)

Cameron Bell

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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Ah okay, so its just a form of DSP then, not genuine Pro-Logic surround? I
can see DSP being of much more use for music listening in a car than Dolby
surround!!

Cheers
Cameron

Michael Hansen <el...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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> Cameron Bell wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > Are you sure its actually pro-logic? Or are you getting confused with
Dolby
> > NR (noise reduction - type B, C etc.. used on tape decks)?
> > Just wondering, as if it were pro-logic it would require a center
channel
> > speaker, which I havent seen myself in this particular model. And why
would
> > you listen to music in pro-logic anyway?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Cameron
> >
>

> Yep, housemates EF2 Ghia has no mention of Pro-Logic, as in Dolby. It's
> got some fancy "surround" type decoding though, with all the different
> types of "sound field" like stadium, studio, and my favourite, space ;-)
>

Djinn

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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Try a PXA-H510 which has both DD and DPL

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:36:06 +0000, Bramante M Perkasa
<per...@upnaway.com> wrote:

>Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
>good as home cinema system.
>
>Where can I find such system for my car?
>

>Regards,
>Bramante M Perkasa


Greg Stewart

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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CD's and cassettes are not recorded with pro-logic, so a decoder in you
car would be totally useless.

Unless you recorded the music programs off tv, which are dolby pro-logic
encoded!!!

You probably mean sound field correction, or DSP!!

Bramante M Perkasa wrote:
>
> Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
> good as home cinema system.
>
> Where can I find such system for my car?
>
> Regards,
> Bramante M Perkasa

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Matthew McDonald

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Oct 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/27/99
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On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:33:23 +1000, "Cameron Bell"
<cb2...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>Matt,
>
>Are you sure its actually pro-logic? Or are you getting confused with Dolby
>NR (noise reduction - type B, C etc.. used on tape decks)?
>Just wondering, as if it were pro-logic it would require a center channel
>speaker, which I havent seen myself in this particular model. And why would
>you listen to music in pro-logic anyway?

It's actually Digital Sound Processing as what the Volvo has. There
are no cars out there with Pro Logic setups. For a start you're
limited to five speakers one if which is a centre channel and
pro-logic as you said is really only good for movies.

PsYcHo

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Oct 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/27/99
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>>Are you sure its actually pro-logic? Or are you getting confused with Dolby
>>NR (noise reduction - type B, C etc.. used on tape decks)?
>>Just wondering, as if it were pro-logic it would require a center channel
>>speaker, which I havent seen myself in this particular model. And why would
>>you listen to music in pro-logic anyway?
>
>It's actually Digital Sound Processing as what the Volvo has. There
>are no cars out there with Pro Logic setups. For a start you're
>limited to five speakers one if which is a centre channel and
>pro-logic as you said is really only good for movies.
>
>
>Regards
>Matthew


Better tell Volvo to take the DPL logo off their stereo's then...

Djinn

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On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:42:06 +1000, mat...@matthewREMOVEmcdonald.com
(Matthew McDonald) wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:33:23 +1000, "Cameron Bell"
><cb2...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>>Matt,
>>

There are cars out there with DPL/DD setups. You know they
incorporated DVD/VCD into cars now don't u. They have A/V setups with
full 5.1 discrete channels for DD. Although I have no idea why u
would want one for a car, since home audio kicks car audio's butt.
What I need is a HDCD player for the car, even nakamichi don't have
one (or so i think)

Cameron Bell

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Oct 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/28/99
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Yep,

Actually we sell the Pioneer displays, in car TV / DVD etc at work. I was
referring to the Fairmont which I knew did not contain a video source of any
kind, thats all. The new Pioneer in-car screens are *very* nice too, 7",
flat, bright, vivid.. *Mmmmmm*, hehehe. Not that I'd buy one, I want to
complete my home theater first (pffft, it will never be complete, I should
stop kidding myself :)
As far as HDCD for car goes, I'll have a look for you, and see what I can
find. I'll be seeing the Pioneer & Sony rep sometime in the next month or
so, so I'll see if anything is happening in that regard....

Cheers,
Cameron

Bramante M Perkasa

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Oct 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/28/99
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Greg Stewart wrote:
>
> CD's and cassettes are not recorded with pro-logic, so a decoder in you
> car would be totally useless.
>
> Unless you recorded the music programs off tv, which are dolby pro-logic
> encoded!!!
>
> You probably mean sound field correction, or DSP!!

Nope, it's definitely Dolby Pro-Logic.

I use Pro-Logic to listen to music with this effect:
1. main vocal always comes from the center speaker.
2. Main musical instuments come from the front side speakers
3. Backing vocals come from the rear speakers
4. Instruments that give ambient sounds come from the rear speakers.

That's why I want to get such system

By the way, yes, it's Pro-Logic. Try to visit your nearest Volvo dealer
to see the C70's sound system.


Regards,
Bramante M Perkasa

Bramante M Perkasa

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Matthew McDonald wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:33:23 +1000, "Cameron Bell"
> <cb2...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> >Matt,
> >
> >Are you sure its actually pro-logic? Or are you getting confused with Dolby
> >NR (noise reduction - type B, C etc.. used on tape decks)?
> >Just wondering, as if it were pro-logic it would require a center channel
> >speaker, which I havent seen myself in this particular model. And why would
> >you listen to music in pro-logic anyway?
>
> It's actually Digital Sound Processing as what the Volvo has. There
> are no cars out there with Pro Logic setups. For a start you're
> limited to five speakers one if which is a centre channel and
> pro-logic as you said is really only good for movies.
>

Sorry, Matthew,
but this particular Volvo (C70), and this model only does have the
Pro-Logic set-up, and yes, it has FIVE speakers.

I wonder if you can spare some time to visit a Volvo dealer to verify
this.


Regards,
Bramante M Perkasa

Greg Stewart

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Oct 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/28/99
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> Nope, it's definitely Dolby Pro-Logic.
>
> I use Pro-Logic to listen to music with this effect:
> 1. main vocal always comes from the center speaker.
> 2. Main musical instuments come from the front side speakers
> 3. Backing vocals come from the rear speakers
> 4. Instruments that give ambient sounds come from the rear speakers.
>
> That's why I want to get such system
>
> By the way, yes, it's Pro-Logic. Try to visit your nearest Volvo dealer
> to see the C70's sound system.
>
> Regards,
> Bramante M Perkasa

But music is not dolby pro-logic encoded!!!, except video clips, so the
best you could do is an artificial surround effect, created by the
player. To get pro-logic you would have to record the music audio off
tv or a music video!!

Unless you had a video monitor, DVD player ect.. in you car then you
could make much better use of pro-logic. If not, then a Pro-logic
decoder in a car is a waste of time!!
It would be cheaper and easier to have a simple DSP deck to create the
surround effect.

BTW I don't dispute that the Volvo has a pro-logic decoder since I
haven't seen one yet!!
But remember the salesman may have a cd recorded in Pro-logic for demo
purposes, but this won't be the way it sounds when you put your fav.
music cd in there!!!

Matthew McDonald

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Ok, I will when I get a chance, it doesn't make any sense to have this
in a car at all.

Bramante M Perkasa

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Thanks for your prompt reply, Gregg.

anyway, getting curious, I just tried to listen to "normal" Music CDs at
home using my Dolby Pro-Logic Home Theatre System.

I found that the result I mentioned above (in the previous message) is
still obtained. I am not sure whether CDs are recorded in Dolby
Surround OR Dolby Pro-Logic does not require CDs to be recorded in Dolby
Surround format (maybe that's why they call it "Logic"), but it works,
try it for yourself.

I cannot try the cassettes, though, as I haven't got any, nor the
player.

Regards,
Bramante M Perkasa

Richard Fay

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Oct 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/28/99
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> >
> >Sorry, Matthew,
> >but this particular Volvo (C70), and this model only does have the
> >Pro-Logic set-up, and yes, it has FIVE speakers.


My 1994 Mazda astina had a 5 speaker stereo. One speaker slapbang in
the middle of the dash.

The fad didn't last long did it.....


Richard

Matt Cremer

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Matthew McDonald wrote in message ...

>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:03:14 +0000, Bramante M Perkasa
><per...@upnaway.com> wrote:

...


>>this particular Volvo (C70), and this model only does have the
>>Pro-Logic set-up, and yes, it has FIVE speakers.
>>

>>I wonder if you can spare some time to visit a Volvo dealer to verify
>>this.
>
>Ok, I will when I get a chance, it doesn't make any sense to have this
>in a car at all.

...

Doesn't make any sense to have a TV in a car either, and they
are there ... so why not, as a marketing gimmick if nothing else?
The electronics are worth nothing, it probably costs them $3
extra per car to have Pro-Logic and they decided it was worth it.


-Forg (Elsewhere)

Matthew McDonald

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Whereas a DSP would be a much better idea and cheaper as they have to
license the Pro Logic from Dolby.

Sounds like a wank from Volve to me.

Jared Watson

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Anyone heard of DSP (Digital Sound Processing). It is a form of this that
changes the sounds from your typical stereo setup to the dolby pro-logic. Some
CD's although very rare are recorded in pro logic I have a few. Very cool.

Jared

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Cameron Bell

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Music is usually recorded in stereo. A good stereo system should create a
soundstage, and you should be able to position instruments/vocals anyway.
Pro-Logic ruins this completely.


Bramante M Perkasa <per...@upnaway.com> wrote in message
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> Greg Stewart wrote:
> >
> > CD's and cassettes are not recorded with pro-logic, so a decoder in you
> > car would be totally useless.
> >
> > Unless you recorded the music programs off tv, which are dolby pro-logic
> > encoded!!!
> >
> > You probably mean sound field correction, or DSP!!
>

Greg Stewart

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> Thanks for your prompt reply, Gregg.
>
> anyway, getting curious, I just tried to listen to "normal" Music CDs at
> home using my Dolby Pro-Logic Home Theatre System.
>
> I found that the result I mentioned above (in the previous message) is
> still obtained. I am not sure whether CDs are recorded in Dolby
> Surround OR Dolby Pro-Logic does not require CDs to be recorded in Dolby
> Surround format (maybe that's why they call it "Logic"), but it works,
> try it for yourself.
>
> I cannot try the cassettes, though, as I haven't got any, nor the
> player.
>
> Regards,
> Bramante M Perkasa

This is interesting, since researching this topic recently I did not
find any music CD's or cassettes that were recorded using dolby
pro-logic. And yes, they do need to be recorded in Pro-logic for your
receiver to decode it.

All the CD's I used were recorded only in stereo, but most pro-logic
receivers can do a 'pseudo' pro-logic were the 'mono' portion of the
sound (vocals. ect) are sent to the center channel, and stereo effect is
created using the other front speakers. They also use the rear speakers
to create a 'surround effect' by delaying the audio, to give a slight
echo, giving the impression of being in a theater sized room. But this
is not true pro-logic, since it doesn't have separate sounds coming from
the rears.

To this date I have never seen or know anyone who has seen a music CD
recorded in pro-logic, this of course does not mean they don't exist,
but if they do, they are very rare.

Dolby surround is similar to dolby pro-logic, except it doesn't have a
separate center channel!!

Guy Donald

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According to jaguar's press release about their 2000 range. DSP adjusts the
listening environment between who is listening. eg. u set it for driver
only, front passenger only or front passenger and driver, rear passengers
only or everyone. However i'm unsure if it actually delays the time of the
sound coming out the (for the driver) right speaker so that it arrives at
the driver's ears at the same time as the left, or if it is not as advanced
as this and just works of volume (fade) and balance. I know what i described
is available and wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the DSP system.

This is also fitted on the statesman/caprice.

Guy.

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Bramante M Perkasa

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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Greg Stewart wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your prompt reply, Gregg.
> >
> > anyway, getting curious, I just tried to listen to "normal" Music CDs at
> > home using my Dolby Pro-Logic Home Theatre System.
> >
> > I found that the result I mentioned above (in the previous message) is
> > still obtained. I am not sure whether CDs are recorded in Dolby
> > Surround OR Dolby Pro-Logic does not require CDs to be recorded in Dolby
> > Surround format (maybe that's why they call it "Logic"), but it works,
> > try it for yourself.
> >
> > I cannot try the cassettes, though, as I haven't got any, nor the
> > player.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bramante M Perkasa
>
> This is interesting, since researching this topic recently I did not
> find any music CD's or cassettes that were recorded using dolby
> pro-logic. And yes, they do need to be recorded in Pro-logic for your
> receiver to decode it.
>

No luck with my research either, Greg.

All I found from http://www.dolby.com is the statement:
"Dolby Pro-Logic makes listening to CD music more entertaining"

Regards,
Bramante M Perkasa

fu...@powerup.com.au

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Is the silvia the 200sx?

Chris G wrote:

> Bramante M Perkasa wrote in message <38111F...@upnaway.com>...

> >Just tried the Volvo C70's Dolby Pro Logic stereo, and it's almost as
> >good as home cinema system.
> >
> >Where can I find such system for my car?
>

> hehe Those stocko speakers in the back of my Silvia are supposed to be
> Dolby Surround or something. I know they're made of carbon fibre, but I
> have never used them - they're still there to let thieves think my stereo is
> still standard.
>

> Chris
>
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bramante M Perkasa
>

Chris G

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fu...@powerup.com.au wrote in message <3836479E...@powerup.com.au>...

>Is the silvia the 200sx?
>


The old 200sx (is the Silvia I am talking about)... 89-94, mine's a 1992
model. They're all imports and were never sold here brand new. They've
always been called Silvias in Japan (they like girl names for their cars I
guess), and 200sx out here... I suppose we like numbers better?

Chris

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Pro logic uses stereo to develop a soundstage. “Dolby Surround” is a format that encoded surround sound channels into stereo.

Today’s pro logic II doesn’t need anything special and translates all stereo sources into a surround stage.
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