Holdens VIN decoding
Morpheus
Does anyone know where I can get the info so I can decode the Vehicle
Identification Number off Holdens? particularly looking for HQ HX and HJ.
Cheers
Morph
MacSlog
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know where I can get the info so I can decode the Vehicle
> Identification Number off Holdens? particularly looking for HQ HX and HJ.
If you can get your hands on an old owners manual for one of those models it should indicate what's what in it. Off course, there
was no such thing as 17 digit VIN's back then, so the numbering may be different to what they use today.
-McS-
Marco Spaccavento
>
> Does anyone know where I can get the info so I can decode the Vehicle
> Identification Number off Holdens? particularly looking for HQ HX and HJ.
I have the HQ Holden manual here with the section on how to decode it.
There's quite a lot of possible combinations, so if you have a specific one
you want decoded, post it here or email it and I'll do it for you. Else, I
may be forced to type out the whole lot :)
The example it gives in the book is 80169QH500025, where 80169 is the model
number, Q means its a HQ, H5 is the assembly plant code and 00025 is the
serial number.
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John Harvey
>Does anyone know where I can get the info so I can decode the Vehicle
>Identification Number off Holdens? particularly looking for HQ HX and HJ.
It's in the General Information section of the respective factory
service manuals. I don't which model first used VIN though -- early
models only had an ID plate.
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Marco Spaccavento
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>
> It's in the General Information section of the respective factory
> service manuals. I don't which model first used VIN though -- early
> models only had an ID plate.
VN was the first with the 17-character VIN.
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frankle
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>
> That's enough for today's lesson. :-p
I hope that was copy and pasted. If you bashed that out from memory I'd be very
concerned!
Ruley
> Now are you concerned? :-p
Not so much concerned. Disturbed, perhaps :-)
Morpheus
8N8ORGL370290X
8N8O =
R = 253 4.2 litre
G = 1977
L3 = ADELAIDE
70290 = BUILD NUMBER
X = HX
8N8OLSH481754Z
8N8O =
L =
J = 1979
H4 = BRISBANE
81754 = BUILD NUMBER
Z = HZ
8S69TEH841736J
8S69 =
T = 308 5 litre
E = 1975
H8 = SYDNEY
41736 = BUILD NUMBER
J = HJ
Graham
> That is the coding used for HK to part way through HQ.
.....
> bb = body style. 35 = wagon, 37 = coupe, 60 = cab/chassis
> 69 = sedan, 70 = panel van, 80 = ute
These body design codes are derived from the Fisher Body codes for GM
products in the US, and are still used today.
69 indicates a 4 door sedan with 4 side windows, such as Kingswoods, VB,
VC, VH, VT and VX Commodores and HQ, HJ, HX and HZ Statesmans
A 4 door sedan with windows in the rear pillars, is considered to have 6
side windows and has a different code. I don't remember what that code
is though. Examples include WB, VQ, VR, VS Statesman, VK, VL, VN, VP,
VR, VS Commodore sedans. I can't remember if current Statesmans have the
extra windows.
> J1-J9 = Dandenong, L1-L5 = Adelaide, L6-L9 = Perth
I think they still use L for Elizabeth.
> Later on, they replaced the trim code with _one_ letter,
> M = belmont, N = kingswood, P = premier, Q = GTS,
> S = statesman deville, T = statesman caprice
There are 5 Commodore trim codes:
K = Base model, Exec, Acclaim. Many HSV cars start as K, so thats whats
in the VIN.
L = Intermediate, Berlina. Some HSV cars are based on L level cars.
X = Calais.
Y = Statesman.
Z = Caprice.
> Another useful thing is the chassis number structure, with
> AHQ12345S being a 1971 HQ, serial 12345, assembled in
> Sydney. The letter at the start tells you how many times
> the ADR list on the compliance plate has changed since the
> model came out (AHQ = 1971, BHQ = 1972, AHJ = 1974)
> This works up to VL, and without the ADR prefix letter,
> goes back to FE. Last letter is capital city of assembly.
As I mentioned above, the factory is still coded in modern VINs, but I'm
not sure which character it is nowdays. Since everything comes out of
Elizabeth, it's always L.
Graham
> Heres the Vehicle IDS I want to identify:
> 8N8ORGL370290X
> 8N8O =
Ute?
> 8N8OLSH481754Z
> 8N8O =
Another ute?
> 8S69TEH841736J
> 8S69 =
4 door sedan?
Marco Spaccavento
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>
> A 4 door sedan with windows in the rear pillars, is considered to have 6
> side windows and has a different code. I don't remember what that code
> is though.
19.
>
> I think they still use L for Elizabeth.
Yep.
> There are 5 Commodore trim codes:
> K = Base model, Exec, Acclaim. Many HSV cars start as K, so thats whats
> in the VIN.
K also applies to S and SS, and most probably SV8 too.
> As I mentioned above, the factory is still coded in modern VINs, but I'm
> not sure which character it is nowdays. Since everything comes out of
> Elizabeth, it's always L.
It is the letter before the last set of numbers, eg. in our VP the VIN is
6H8VPK19UNL5xxxxx.
While we're on the subject of VINs, the N in the above example means it is a
1992 built car. Since they got to Z in 2000 though, from 2001 onwards it
has been replaced by a number, eg 1 for 2001, 2 for 2002 etc. Not sure what
will happen in 2010. This number/letter code by the way is universal, not
just applicable to Holdens.
And for that matter, the 6H8 indicates it is a vehicle built by Holden, and
its country of origin is Australia, indicated by the 6. This number seems
to apply more to the origin of the manufacturer rather than the car itself,
as for example my Astra was built in Belgium but its VIN starts with WOL, W
being Germany. 1 is USA and Canada, 2 in Mexico, J is Japan, K=Korea,
V=France, Z=Italy, and so on. Seeing as every country in the world has a
unique code, it gets a bit drawn out, but you get the idea. It's a little
more complex than that (some countries only get half a letter, if you really
want to know I'll explain...).
There are some things I know too much about.
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Marco Spaccavento
> Heres the Vehicle IDS I want to identify:
>
> 8N8ORGL370290X
> 8N8O =
Kingswood Ute, if Athol's list is anything to go by.
> 8S69TEH841736J
> 8S69 =
Statesman Deville.
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athol
Would you like a break-down of the codes for earlier models?
How to tell from the body plates whether an EH was auto or manual?
(The easy way for customers who don't know the difference between
manual and auto floors.)
Don't be too disturbed... I'm full of it and I know it. :-p
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Athol
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Linux Registered User # 254000
athol
> As I mentioned above, the factory is still coded in modern VINs, but I'm
> not sure which character it is nowdays. Since everything comes out of
> Elizabeth, it's always L.
Much like the Geminis all having a B at the end of the chassis
number because they were all assembled at Acacia Ridge, QLD.
athol
> Heres the Vehicle IDS I want to identify:
> 8N8ORGL370290X
> 8N8O =
Kingswood ute
> 8N8OLSH481754Z
> 8N8O =
Kingswood Ute
> L =
L engine = High compression (normal) 202
> 8S69TEH841736J
> 8S69 =
Statesman deVille
Marco Spaccavento
>
> Almost. Each country has a range of WMIs (World Manufacturer's
> Index), and WOL is probably within the Belgium range. They may
> have been allocated a few codes out of the German range...
Actually no. The range for Germany is WA-W0 and also SN-ST, but Belgium is
YA-YE.
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Marco Spaccavento
> Graham <zeb...@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
>
> > As I mentioned above, the factory is still coded in modern VINs, but I'm
> > not sure which character it is nowdays. Since everything comes out of
> > Elizabeth, it's always L.
>
> Much like the Geminis all having a B at the end of the chassis
> number because they were all assembled at Acacia Ridge, QLD.
Except for my Gemini, ARB006716A :)
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athol
> Actually no. The range for Germany is WA-W0 and also SN-ST, but Belgium is
> YA-YE.
Then your car was assembled in Germany or there is something
*very* wrong with their VIN allocations...
Marco Spaccavento
> Marco Spaccavento <rbge...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Actually no. The range for Germany is WA-W0 and also SN-ST, but Belgium
is
> > YA-YE.
>
> Then your car was assembled in Germany or there is something
> *very* wrong with their VIN allocations...
Next time I see a Spanish-made Barina I'll see what its VIN says. 99% sure
my car was built in Belgium.
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