Old Ford paint codes

[Jeßus]

Having a bit of trouble tracking down info on the XM's paint code.

There is info online but nothing that really matches what's on the
car's plate - 'A22'. I'm really just chasing the name and actual
sample of the colour... I know it's a light-ish blue but there are
quite a few different Ford blues from that era from what I've seen.
TIA for any help.

Actually, here is all the info on the plate:

Serial Prefix
XM RHD

Serial Number
129291

SIDO Number
155959

***BTW, what is a 'SIDO' number?

Model
32144

Paint
A22

Trim
3215

Any info on the above or handy sites out there appreciated!

[D Walford]

On 6/04/2016 7:28 AM, Je�us wrote:
> Having a bit of trouble tracking down info on the XM's paint code.
>
> There is info online but nothing that really matches what's on the
> car's plate - 'A22'. I'm really just chasing the name and actual
> sample of the colour... I know it's a light-ish blue but there are
> quite a few different Ford blues from that era from what I've seen.
> TIA for any help.
>
> Actually, here is all the info on the plate:
>
> Serial Prefix
> XM RHD
>
> Serial Number
> 129291
>
> SIDO Number

> 155959
>
> ***BTW, what is a 'SIDO' number?

"Single Item Dealer Order".

>
> Model
> 32144
>
> Paint
> A22
>
> Trim
> 3215
>
> Any info on the above or handy sites out there appreciated!
>

--
Daryl

[Noddy]

Decoding Ford VIN plate info can be tough at times, as they chopped and
changed their "standards" almost with each new model. But in your case
it's fortunately not too bad and the car decodes as such:

XMRHD breaks down into five different descriptors:

"X" - Indicates built in Australia.

"M" - Indicates the model series Ie: "XM" Falcon.

"R" - Indicates Broadmeadows as the assembly plant.

(other options in the day were "S" or Sydney, "B" for Brisbane and "F"
for Freemantle. Jeez, I bet Ford wishes they were building Falcons out
of 4 different plants today :)

"H" - Indicates the month of production, which in this case is August.

"D" - indicates the year of production, which in this case was 1964.

--

The serial number of 129291 doesn't indicate anything other than it
being that car's individual sequence number on that line for that year.
There were only 47,039 XM Falcons of all varieties made in total, and
the number in and of itself doesn't make any sense. But each assembly
plant started it's numbering sequence off at different points (such as
35000 rather than zero for example), and they made other things on the
various lines at time such as Cortinas and Compact Fairlanes which were
all numbered according to what order they were spat out.

--

The SIDO number stands for "Single Item Dealer Order" and is an internal
order number that relates specifically to the dealership that placed the
order to have the car built. Back in those days of non computerised
business, dealerships used to have "order books" that had pages with
sequenced order numbers, and when a buyer walked in and ordered a new
car that book was filled out (in triplicate with carbon paper. Remember
that?) and a copy of the order sent off to the factory as the "official"
order to build the car. The VIN plate carried that order number to
identify the car and make sure it was shipped off to the right dealer
when it was completed.

--

The model number is a bit like the serial prefix in that it breaks down
to list the vehicle's particular body and mechanical configuration from
the range of options that were available. In the XM range you could
choose from a sedan, a wagon, a panel van, a ute or a coupe, and in
either standard, Deluxe, Squire (wagon only) or Futura levels of
"luxury". You also had mechanical options in the form of a 144, 170 and
200 cubic inch engine coupled with either a manual or automatic
transmission (apart from the 200 "Super Persuit" engine which was only
available with an auto.

In this particular case model number 32144 decodes as an XM "Deluxe"
sedan (body type "54B") fitted with a 170 cubic inch engine and
"cruisomatic" automatic transmission.

--

Paint codes:

Paint codes cause the most confusion amongst early Falcon owners as Ford
used a 3 digit code that referred to "top" (first digit), "Middle"
(second digit) and "Lower" (third digit). People often think that the
number is read as a "whole" which refers to a single colour, when in
actual fact Ford used a single letter or number to refer to each
individual colour in their range, and each digit in the paint code
refers to an individual colour that was applied to the relevant section
of the car.

In Ford paint terminology of the day, the "top" part of the paint code
referred to the exterior roof, the "middle" referred to the interior
painted steel components (such as the dash and door tops) and the
"Lower" to the exterior body.

For example, you could order a new XM Sedan with an Arctic white
exterior and red trim, and have the "middle" (interior metal parts) of
the car painted in red to match the trim coverings. Like this one:
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Falcon_%28XM%29#/media/File:1964_Ford_XM_Futura_Super_Pursuit_%2810323243454%29.jpg

A great many early Falcons were factory two-toned with a coloured body
and a white roof, while others were just all one colour inside and out.
For example, my XP coupe has a paint code of DDD which is "Sunlit Beige"
for the roof, inside and body.

As far as your car is concerned, the paint code of "A22" decodes as
"Arctic white" (A) for the roof, "Bermuda Blue" (2) for the middle (or
interior) and "Bermuda Blue" for the lower body.

--

Interior trim is pretty easy as the number refers to a specific option.
They had a number of options in those days, with some of them being
fairly way out. Your trim code of 3215 indicates the interior was a
"light blue metallic vinyl with blue body cloth" option.

--

So, after all that bullshit, to summarise your car is an XM Deluxe sedan
fitted with a 170 engine and automatic transmission, finished in Arctic
white and Bermuda Blue with a blue cloth and vinyl interior, and which
was built in August of 1964 on the Broadmeadows assembly line.

And, as it happens, I think this is exactly what your car would have
looked like in it's day:

> http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=54169

For some reason they list that car as being "Velvet green and Polar
white" but it's clearly not a green car and I'm pretty sure that it's
wearing Bermuda Blue and Arctic white paint. The interior trim also
looks to be what yours was 50 years ago.

Hope this helps.


--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Jacko]

"Noddy" wrote in message news:ne1rfq$a2k$1...@dont-email.me...

On 06/04/16 7:28 AM, Je�us wrote:

> SNIP

>Hope this helps.
--
>Regards,
>Noddy.

Very informative, thanks Noddy.

Jacko.

[Clocky]

This is a handy guide: http://falconccwa.stormloader.com/colourhint.htm

[Noddy]

On 06/04/16 2:28 PM, Jacko wrote:

>> SNIP
>
>> Hope this helps.
> --
>> Regards,
>> Noddy.
>
> Very informative, thanks Noddy.
>
> Jacko.

Welcome.

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--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 08:30:48 +1000, D Walford
<dwal...@internode.on.net> wrote:

>On 6/04/2016 7:28 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>> ***BTW, what is a 'SIDO' number?
>
>"Single Item Dealer Order".

Thanks Daryl

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:20:27 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

Fark. It sure did Noddy, many thanks indeed. Detailed and well
explained :)

I don't mind that colour actually and I'll probably stick with it when
it's time to do the paint. Glad it was two tone also, I really like
these Falcons with a white roof. I'm leaning towards keeping it
original now (aside from things like brakes and steering). Any mods
I'll try to make reversible. Mainly for cost reasons really, because
if I go the V8 etc. route I'll end up spending a small fortune before
I would be satisfied with it.

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:42:50 +0800, Clocky <notg...@happen.com> wrote:

>This is a handy guide: http://falconccwa.stormloader.com/colourhint.htm

I came across that site early on in my research but it confused me
more than anything else :)

[Clocky]

Yeah I can see why it would but it should make sense now ;-)

[Noddy]

On 07/04/16 6:09 AM, Je�us wrote:

> Fark. It sure did Noddy, many thanks indeed. Detailed and well
> explained :)
>
> I don't mind that colour actually and I'll probably stick with it when
> it's time to do the paint. Glad it was two tone also, I really like
> these Falcons with a white roof. I'm leaning towards keeping it
> original now (aside from things like brakes and steering). Any mods
> I'll try to make reversible. Mainly for cost reasons really, because
> if I go the V8 etc. route I'll end up spending a small fortune before
> I would be satisfied with it.

Yep. Pretty easy to do.

The cars were available with a front disc brake option from new which
used a remote booster and set of 4 stud rotors and callipers. They
generally work okay and can sometimes be had fairly cheaply on places
like ebay, but if you end up with a set you also need to get the
matching 4 stud 14 inch wheels that are required for calliper clearance.
I'm fucked if I know why, but Ford used 13 inch 4 stud wheels on their
drum brake early Falcons and 14n inch on anything with Disc brakes.

[Noddy]

On 07/04/16 9:09 PM, Blue Peeler wrote:

> Here's a bizarre piece of useless crap I remember
>
> The 4-stud wheels from a Toyota corolla MkII will fit a XM/XP falcon.
>
> I know this because my father had a home made trailer that used 1964
> Falcon rims, because he built the blasted thing in 1964 when he owned a
> brand new Falcon Futura 4-door (and to mildly contradict Noddy, it was
> a three on the tree manual, but was a 200cid "super pursuit" engine -
> special order maybe?
>
>
> Anyway, I digress. some years later and the trailer had not been used
> for a long period of time and th ewheels had gone walkies - I think
> that my father's brother, who was attendign the local teacher's college
> might hav "borrowed" them when the tyres on his old 1982 wagon wore
> through the canvas. Anyway it needed to be moved and had no wheels.
>
>
> My old man had a pretty finely calibrated eyebrow and reckoned that my
> toyota's rim would go close - I derided him.
>
>
> The bloody things did fit though.
>
>
> Now I can't comment as to offset etc, but I do recall they bolted up to
> the trailer hubs a treat.

Most jap 4 stud stuff has the same PCD as an early Falcon in the XK to
XP range. Ford moved to the standard 5 stud arrangement from the XR
Falcon onwards (1966) but up until then Falcons were 4 stud with either
13 inch wheels for poverty pack models with drum brakes, and 14 inch for
disc brake XP versions.

Just to spice things up a little, XK, L, M and P model Falcons ordered
with a "taxi" or Police pack" option came with 5 stud wheels, as did the
commercial ute and van. All the early 5 stud wheels were 13 inch, and
they ran a 10 inch brake drum compared to the regular 9 inch drum on the
4 stud cars. First generation 6 cylinder Mustangs also ran 4 stud wheels
with the same brakes.

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 08:44:33 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

The mysteries of car manufacturing :)

Thanks again for the great info Noddy. In your opinion, is the
original factory XM disc brake set up equal in performance to later
models such as the XT? I'm told XT and possibly XY/W disc brakes and
front ends will go into an XM? I'm a big fan of better brakes, so even
though they might not be original, I'd be inclined to use later model
brakes if they actually perform better. Just exploring my options,
thanks.

[Noddy]

On 09/04/16 7:02 AM, Je�us wrote:

> The mysteries of car manufacturing :)

Indeed :)

> Thanks again for the great info Noddy. In your opinion, is the
> original factory XM disc brake set up equal in performance to later
> models such as the XT? I'm told XT and possibly XY/W disc brakes and
> front ends will go into an XM? I'm a big fan of better brakes, so even
> though they might not be original, I'd be inclined to use later model
> brakes if they actually perform better. Just exploring my options,
> thanks.

Sorry Jebus but I think I've mislead you a bit here. There was only a
factory disc brake option on the XP model (standard on the Fairmont and
optional on everything else), but they are backward compatible to the XM
and other earlybirds and a lot of cars had them retrofitted by
dealerships back in the day. It wasn't uncommon to see something like an
XM Futura that appeared to have "factory" disk brakes but which in fact
were dealer (or after-market) fitted after the car was sold new.

As for the performance of the original disc brakes, they were adequate
but not brilliant and I'm sure anyone used to a modern car would think
they were utterly appalling today. They were significantly better than
the factory drum brake setup, but then so was chucking a large rock tied
to a piece of rope out of your window like an anchor :)

However, there is good news.

One of the really cool things about Ford being a miserable tight-arse
car company is that a *lot* of their parts are backward compatible. For
example, a starter motor from a 2003 BA Falcon is a bolt in fit into a
1960 144 cubic inch XK :)

Brakes are a similar deal. With early Falcon front ends, any stub axle
up to XF will fit onto the XM & XP ball joints, with the only difference
being the standard XM/P tie rod taper is too small for the later
steering arm. To get around that most brake outlets who specialise in
these kinds of upgrades sell tapered sleeves that are designed to fit
the early tie rod ends into the later steering arms for around 40 bucks
or so and that will give you a complete XF front stub axle, rotor and
calliper on the standard front suspension and steering for not a lot of
money.

I've done this conversion myself for less than 150 bucks using good
quality used XF Falcon front brakes and the performance was excellent.
Some people have complained of a slight bump steer issue, but I've never
noticed it and if it were evident it would be minor as the difference in
steering arm length is very small indeed.

For a brake master cylinder there are a few options. A few people like
using a Master Cylinder/Booster combo from a late 90's Suzuki Swift
which is a compact size and has a 7/8" bore master cylinder which works
well. An easy option is an XB Falcon master cylinder which is the
correct bore size for XF front callipers and bolts into the original
master cylinder opening in the firewall. Using one means you'll need to
run a remote booster like a VH-40 or so, but if you've got no problem
with that then they work well.

Another option is an after-market "package" which in some cases can be
had for reasonable money and will literally transform the car. places
like Hoppers Stoppers have a lot of useful information on hand, as well
as a bunch of parts choices to deal with.

> http://www.hoppers.com.au/falconbrakes.htm

I'd also recommend that if you're not already a member that you join
Ford Forums, as there are a *heap* of people that have been through the
journey that you're starting on and are a wealth of information with
detailed stories and photos of their particular builds.

Finally, all of your decent brake upgrades mean converting the front
axle to 5 stud configuration, which will mean that your next problem
will be what to do about the rear axle.

It's a can of worms. Everything is connected to everything else :)

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:59:39 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

Excellent.

Thanks, I'll do that. I'll look into both XF and aftermarket brakes
too.

>Finally, all of your decent brake upgrades mean converting the front
>axle to 5 stud configuration, which will mean that your next problem
>will be what to do about the rear axle.
>
>It's a can of worms. Everything is connected to everything else :)

Oh well, no big drama, I can throw in a another rear end with LSD :)

[Noddy]

On 10/04/16 6:53 AM, Je�us wrote:

>> I'd also recommend that if you're not already a member that you join
>> Ford Forums, as there are a *heap* of people that have been through the
>> journey that you're starting on and are a wealth of information with
>> detailed stories and photos of their particular builds.
>
> Thanks, I'll do that. I'll look into both XF and aftermarket brakes
> too.

The XF setup is a good swap. They're great brakes that work very well
indeed in an early lightweight Falcon, and the best part is that they
can be had for nix.

>> It's a can of worms. Everything is connected to everything else :)
>
> Oh well, no big drama, I can throw in a another rear end with LSD :)

As far as rear ends go the two easiest options are an "8 inch" rear axle
out of an early Mustang which is exactly the right size, or a "tin hat"
out of a Chrysler Centura which is slightly long but will comfortably
fit with the adaptation of the appropriate spring hanger plates. Either
one will give you a "Ford" 5 stud rear axle.

There are other "after-market" options of course, and there is always an
original Taxi or Police rear end if you can find one.

One thing you might like to avoid is a ute or panel van differential.
They're easier to find that a Taxi or Police rear end, and they are
indeed a 5 stud affair, but they have a couple of issues that will cause
you hassles in that they're a 4.0:1 ratio centre which means that the
engine will scream it's nuts off at cruising speed, and the housing is
arranged in such a way that adapting the more user friendly 3.2:1 sedan
ratio isn't really feasible.

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 09:46:01 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

>On 10/04/16 6:53 AM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>> I'd also recommend that if you're not already a member that you join
>>> Ford Forums, as there are a *heap* of people that have been through the
>>> journey that you're starting on and are a wealth of information with
>>> detailed stories and photos of their particular builds.
>>
>> Thanks, I'll do that. I'll look into both XF and aftermarket brakes
>> too.
>
>The XF setup is a good swap. They're great brakes that work very well
>indeed in an early lightweight Falcon, and the best part is that they
>can be had for nix.

Yeah, all things considered, this would be the best route to go as
I've decided to keep costs down on this project (where possible).

>>> It's a can of worms. Everything is connected to everything else :)
>>
>> Oh well, no big drama, I can throw in a another rear end with LSD :)
>
>As far as rear ends go the two easiest options are an "8 inch" rear axle
>out of an early Mustang which is exactly the right size, or a "tin hat"
>out of a Chrysler Centura which is slightly long but will comfortably
>fit with the adaptation of the appropriate spring hanger plates. Either
>one will give you a "Ford" 5 stud rear axle.

Cheers for that. I recently came across a thread on some forum that
suggested an 8" from a Maverick would also suit - can't recall the
stud pattern though.

>There are other "after-market" options of course, and there is always an
>original Taxi or Police rear end if you can find one.
>
>One thing you might like to avoid is a ute or panel van differential.
>They're easier to find that a Taxi or Police rear end, and they are
>indeed a 5 stud affair, but they have a couple of issues that will cause
>you hassles in that they're a 4.0:1 ratio centre which means that the
>engine will scream it's nuts off at cruising speed, and the housing is
>arranged in such a way that adapting the more user friendly 3.2:1 sedan
>ratio isn't really feasible.

Thanks, I'll avoid those diffs then.

[Noddy]

On 11/04/16 6:48 AM, Je�us wrote:

> Cheers for that. I recently came across a thread on some forum that
> suggested an 8" from a Maverick would also suit - can't recall the
> stud pattern though.

Normal "Ford" as far as I'm aware.

The Maverick swap is fairly new here but has been around for a while.
The Ford Explorer is also a common one in the US, but that requires
shortening.

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:21:55 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

>On 11/04/16 6:48 AM, Je?us wrote:
>
>> Cheers for that. I recently came across a thread on some forum that
>> suggested an 8" from a Maverick would also suit - can't recall the
>> stud pattern though.
>
>Normal "Ford" as far as I'm aware.
>
>The Maverick swap is fairly new here but has been around for a while.
>The Ford Explorer is also a common one in the US, but that requires
>shortening.

I might keep an eye out for a Maverick diff, probably a lot easier to
find than a Mustange diff I'd imagine.

[Noddy]

On 14/04/16 6:53 AM, Je�us wrote:

>> The Maverick swap is fairly new here but has been around for a while.
>> The Ford Explorer is also a common one in the US, but that requires
>> shortening.
>
> I might keep an eye out for a Maverick diff, probably a lot easier to
> find than a Mustange diff I'd imagine.

Probably, although I haven't looked into one. If you can find one out of
a Chrysler Centura that's the easiest of the lot.

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 07:43:48 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

>On 14/04/16 6:53 AM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>> The Maverick swap is fairly new here but has been around for a while.
>>> The Ford Explorer is also a common one in the US, but that requires
>>> shortening.
>>
>> I might keep an eye out for a Maverick diff, probably a lot easier to
>> find than a Mustange diff I'd imagine.
>
>Probably, although I haven't looked into one. If you can find one out of
>a Chrysler Centura that's the easiest of the lot.

Righto... a mate claims he might be able to find one for me so I'll
look into that.

Another quick question, if I may?
I think we went over this previously, but are XW disc brakes in any
way inferior to XF brakes? I've been given complete a XW front brake
set up, but they need a lot of cleaning up and general work.

[Noddy]

On 14/04/16 7:52 AM, Je�us wrote:

> Righto... a mate claims he might be able to find one for me so I'll
> look into that.
>
> Another quick question, if I may?
> I think we went over this previously, but are XW disc brakes in any
> way inferior to XF brakes? I've been given complete a XW front brake
> set up, but they need a lot of cleaning up and general work.

XF brakes were better, but that's not to say that the XW ones are bad.
The Rotors are much the same, and in fact I believe the two callipers
use the same mounting points and are interchangeable, but the XF runs a
better calliper and a better pad. They're also easier to buy rebuild
parts for.

Still, in having said all that, XW brakes would work well and I don't
think you'd be disappointed with them. They were a fairly popular swap
back in the day and the few that I've driven worked well indeed.

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:12:26 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
wrote:

Thanks again Noddy, sounds like they'll be okay.

[Noddy]

On 14/04/16 4:39 PM, Je�us wrote:

>> Still, in having said all that, XW brakes would work well and I don't
>> think you'd be disappointed with them. They were a fairly popular swap
>> back in the day and the few that I've driven worked well indeed.
>
> Thanks again Noddy, sounds like they'll be okay.

Yeah, I think they will.

I'll be using XF brakes on mine, but that's only because I have three
complete sets here to choose from. If I had XW/Y brakes I'd happily use
those without bothering to look for something else.

[John McKenzie]

On 14/04/2016 7:52 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 07:43:48 +1000, Noddy <m...@wardengineering.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 14/04/16 6:53 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>>>> The Maverick swap is fairly new here but has been around for a while.
>>>> The Ford Explorer is also a common one in the US, but that requires
>>>> shortening.
>>>
>>> I might keep an eye out for a Maverick diff, probably a lot easier to
>>> find than a Mustange diff I'd imagine.
>>
>> Probably, although I haven't looked into one. If you can find one out of
>> a Chrysler Centura that's the easiest of the lot.
>
> Righto... a mate claims he might be able to find one for me so I'll
> look into that.

I know of someone (I'll have to dig up their details but I do have em
somewhere) - maybe even look online - his name is Josh and he runs (or
used to, I haven't had a centy in about a decade) centura-wreck. He'd
probably want 3-400 for one, which is steep (and almost certainly more
than he pays for complete cars) but he should bloody have one.

They'll be a 2.92:1 ratio almost exclusively (there's probably a few
floating around with 3.23:1 gears but I have never come across one, and
who knows what others have swapped in tehre over the years)

> Another quick question, if I may?
> I think we went over this previously, but are XW disc brakes in any
> way inferior to XF brakes? I've been given complete a XW front brake
> set up, but they need a lot of cleaning up and general work.

IIRC, stud sizing and hub diameter aside, they are the same brakes as
used on teh holdens and valiants of the era (possibly with revised
calipers on the latter, vh calipers are different from vj-vk ones but
the discs are the same). If this is the case, matched with a decent set
of pads, they would do quite nicely on an xm-xp or car of that era,
which would be lighter still.

If you can take a pic of them I can tell you if they are the 'good'
calipers or the early type (well as compared to the vals that used the
same general setup, albeit with different bolt attachment points etc)
and you can go from there.



--
John McKenzie

[John McKenzie]

On 14/04/2016 4:39 PM, Je�us wrote:

>> Still, in having said all that, XW brakes would work well and I don't
>> think you'd be disappointed with them. They were a fairly popular swap
>> back in the day and the few that I've driven worked well indeed.
>
> Thanks again Noddy, sounds like they'll be okay.

If you go this way, I'll put in a big plug for QFM (queensland friction
materials) a1rm brake pads. They work good right from cold (whereas some
other pads need to be up to temp to work well negating their
practicality for a streeter that might only need hard braking once in a
blue moon) and have very good bite. They are a bit like the old metal
kings on steroids.

qfm do another compound (well thyey actually do a bunch of compounds,
but I mean that this one is specifically relevant), but I forget the
name of it (can find it if needed) which are in 'feel' almost identical
to metal kings, and are a semi popular swap for rear discs on cars using
the a1rm compound on the fronts. But if you wanted something a bit
milder they work well (I have used them on the front of my 1200 coupe
with stock discs and they work good, but not as good as a1rm pads.

--
John McKenzie

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 19:57:30 +1000, John McKenzie <j...@j.com> wrote:

>On 14/04/2016 4:39 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>> Still, in having said all that, XW brakes would work well and I don't
>>> think you'd be disappointed with them. They were a fairly popular swap
>>> back in the day and the few that I've driven worked well indeed.
>>
>> Thanks again Noddy, sounds like they'll be okay.
>
>If you go this way, I'll put in a big plug for QFM (queensland friction
>materials) a1rm brake pads. They work good right from cold (whereas some
>other pads need to be up to temp to work well negating their
>practicality for a streeter that might only need hard braking once in a
>blue moon) and have very good bite. They are a bit like the old metal
>kings on steroids.

Thanks, I'll have a look at those pads.

>qfm do another compound (well thyey actually do a bunch of compounds,
>but I mean that this one is specifically relevant), but I forget the
>name of it (can find it if needed) which are in 'feel' almost identical
>to metal kings, and are a semi popular swap for rear discs on cars using
>the a1rm compound on the fronts. But if you wanted something a bit
>milder they work well (I have used them on the front of my 1200 coupe
>with stock discs and they work good, but not as good as a1rm pads.

Cheers John.

[davi...@gmail.com]

Hello.
This discussion is marvellous stuff. I am giving a freshen up (saying restoration would be an exaggeration to my son's XP Falcon
And I'm having trouble figuring out the paint code
Its a 1964 XP sedan, from the ID plate, from which the anodising has mostly faded,
Serial prefix JG23EE
SERIlAL NO. 64016
SDO 088293
MODEL 32145
PAINT DDD
TRIM 526

The paint code makes no sense. The roof is white the interior is the same colour as the exterior which is reputed to be Champagne Gold.
There is no sign whatever that it has ever been resprayed, except badly in places after accident repair. (The trim is in keeping with Champagne Gold, as it's sort of gold too).
I love mysteries: but this has me baffled
Can anybody throw light on the paint code? I want to have it resprayed as original.

Thanks
David

[Clocky]

On 23/02/2019 3:34 pm, davi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello.
> This discussion is marvellous stuff. I am giving a freshen up (saying restoration would be an exaggeration to my son's XP Falcon
> And I'm having trouble figuring out the paint code
> Its a 1964 XP sedan, from the ID plate, from which the anodising has mostly faded,
> Serial prefix JG23EE
> SERIlAL NO. 64016
> SDO 088293
> MODEL 32145
> PAINT DDD
> TRIM 526
>
> The paint code makes no sense. The roof is white the interior is the same colour as the exterior which is reputed to be Champagne Gold.
> There is no sign whatever that it has ever been resprayed, except badly in places after accident repair. (The trim is in keeping with Champagne Gold, as it's sort of gold too).
> I love mysteries: but this has me baffled
> Can anybody throw light on the paint code? I want to have it resprayed as original.
>

I thought it should be Sunlit Beige for the interior, exterior and roof
according to that code.

--

[Noddy]

On 23/02/2019 6:34 pm, davi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello.
> This discussion is marvellous stuff. I am giving a freshen up (saying restoration would be an exaggeration to my son's XP Falcon
> And I'm having trouble figuring out the paint code
> Its a 1964 XP sedan, from the ID plate, from which the anodising has mostly faded,
> Serial prefix JG23EE
> SERIlAL NO. 64016
> SDO 088293
> MODEL 32145
> PAINT DDD
> TRIM 526
>
> The paint code makes no sense. The roof is white the interior is the same colour as the exterior which is reputed to be Champagne Gold.
> There is no sign whatever that it has ever been resprayed, except badly in places after accident repair. (The trim is in keeping with Champagne Gold, as it's sort of gold too).
> I love mysteries: but this has me baffled
> Can anybody throw light on the paint code? I want to have it resprayed as original.
>
> Thanks
> David

Hi David. You're replying to a *really* old post, but I'll help you out
as much as I can :)

Firstly let me state categorically that if your car is an XP Sedan then
it is most definitely *not* a 1964 model, as the XP series wasn't
introduced until February of 1965. In fact your serial prefix of
"JG23EE" suggests that the car is an XP Falcon sedan that was
manufactured at the Broadmeadows plant in December of 1965. Your rego
sticker/papers may say otherwise, but that's what the ID plate points to.

Secondly the paint code is fairly easy to understand if you understand
how Ford went about applying it, and you apply it to the right car.

Back in the day you could order one of these cars with three different
paint colours applied, and those colours were applied to the painted
interior parts such as the dash and internal door surfaces, the lower
exterior, and the roof. The paint codes for these cars always read in
order of Top, middle and Lower from left to right with "middle" being
the painted interior section, and you could order a new XP Sedan with a
black exterior, a white roof and red painted interior parts to match a
red trim combination. Such a car would have a paint code reading "ALB"
to indicate the three different colours used in those areas.

In your case, "DDD" represents "Sunlit Beige" as the colour for the top,
middle and lower, meaning the car was painted in the same colour inside
and out. I have an XP Futura hardtop that was exactly the same colour
when it left the factory in mid 1966. I understand that the paint on the
car looks "original", but you can rest assured that a *lot* of cars that
are over 50 years old today have had colour changes that are often hard
to pick just by looking at them.

In reference to your other supplied information:

Your trim code of "526" indicates that the trim colour was "Palomino",
which was a light tan colour that was a *very* common choice with Sunlit
Beige paint (mine is exactly the same).

Your model number of "32145" indicates that the car is a "Deluxe" model
with a front bench seat, and originally left the factory with a 170
cubic inch engine and a three speed column auto. The engine number
prefix should start with a letter "D", and if it's the original engine
it's number will match that which is stamped into the top of the
passenger's side front suspension tower in the engine bay.

The "SIDO" number (Single Item Dealer Order) is simply the order number
used by the dealer when ordering the car originally. It doesn't relate
to anything other than the number that was on the original paper order
that was sent from the dealership to the factory to place the order to
have the car built.

The Serial Number of "64016" indicates that it was the 64,016th vehicle
to go down the Broadmeadows assembly line in 1965. In case you're
wondering, a total of 7,832 XP Deluxe sedans with a 170/auto mechanical
combination were built in 1965. 400 of which were built in December, of
which yours was one of them.

Finally, with your car being a Sunlit Beige Deluxe sedan with a Palomino
interior, it would have looked like this in it's heyday:

> https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5615/15569935400_1b414c80a8_b.jpg

Hope you find some of this useful.

[Clocky]

https://xpfalcon.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/ford-vehicle-identification-xp-vin-only/

[Xeno]

On 23/2/19 11:01 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 23/02/2019 6:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 23/02/2019 6:34 pm, davi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> This discussion is marvellous stuff. I  am giving a freshen up
>>> (saying restoration would be an exaggeration to my son's XP Falcon
>>> And I'm having trouble figuring out the paint code
>>> Its a 1964 XP sedan, from the ID plate, from which the anodising has
>>> mostly faded,
>>> Serial prefix JG23EE
>>> SERIlAL NO. 64016
>>> SDO 088293
>>> MODEL 32145
>>> PAINT DDD
>>> TRIM 526
>>>
>>> The paint code makes no sense. The roof is white the interior is the
>>> same colour as the exterior which is reputed to be Champagne Gold.
>>> There is no sign whatever that it has ever been resprayed, except
>>> badly in places after accident repair. (The trim is in keeping with
>>> Champagne Gold, as it's sort of gold too).
>>> I love mysteries: but this has me baffled
>>> Can anybody throw light on the paint code? I want to have it
>>> resprayed as original.
>>>

through >>> Thanks

>>> David
>>
>> Hi David. You're replying to a *really* old post, but I'll help you
>> out as much as I can :)
>>
>> Firstly let me state categorically that if your car is an XP Sedan
>> then it is most definitely *not* a 1964 model, as the XP series wasn't
>> introduced until February of 1965. In fact your serial prefix of
>> "JG23EE" suggests that the car is an XP Falcon sedan that was
>> manufactured at the Broadmeadows plant in December of 1965. Your rego
>> sticker/papers may say otherwise, but that's what the ID plate points to.
>>
>> Secondly the paint code is fairly easy to understand if you understand
>> how Ford went about applying it, and you apply it to the right car.
>>
>> Back in the day you could order one of these cars with three different
>> paint colours applied, and those colours were applied to the painted
>> interior parts such as the dash and internal door surfaces, the lower
>> exterior, and the roof. The paint codes for these cars always read in
>> order of Top, middle and Lower from left to right with "middle" being
>> the painted interior section, and you could order a new XP Sedan with
>> a black exterior, a white roof and red painted interior parts to match
>> a red trim combination. Such a car would have a paint code reading
>> "ALB" to indicate the three different colours used in those areas.
>>
>> In your case, "DDD" represents "Sunlit Beige" as the colour for the
>> top, middle and lower, meaning the car was painted in the same colour
>> inside
>
>
>
> https://xpfalcon.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/ford-vehicle-identification-xp-vin-only/
>
>

Gee, Noddy wasn't trying to make himself look knowledgeable through Dr
Google again, was he?


--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

[lindsay]

"A clue Noddy, if you want to big note yourself, stick to topics about
which you have a clue or can Google sufficient info to make yourself
look knowledgeable." 28/06/15

The voice of experience talking, transferred or otherwise... :-D

--
"If his story wasn't total and utter bullshit, it would be a doddle for
him to get the info. Trouble is, he was never involved in the incident.
He knows that, I know that and you had best wake up to it. xeno 24/08/14

"I was never in doubt that the accident took place." xeno 12/08/18

[Noddy]

On 24/02/2019 7:34 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 23/02/2019 11:54 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 23/2/19 11:01 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> In your case, "DDD" represents "Sunlit Beige" as the colour for the
>>>> top, middle and lower, meaning the car was painted in the same
>>>> colour inside
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://xpfalcon.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/ford-vehicle-identification-xp-vin-only/
>>>
>>>
>> Gee, Noddy wasn't trying to make himself look knowledgeable through Dr
>> Google again, was he?
>>
>>
>
> "A clue Noddy, if you want to big note yourself, stick to topics about
> which you have a clue or can Google sufficient info to make yourself
> look knowledgeable." 28/06/15
>
> The voice of experience talking, transferred or otherwise... :-D

An odd comment coming from a bloke who hasn't put a finger on a car in
almost 40 years, yet knows everything there is to know about them up to
and including the current models. There is clearly only one way he's
capable of doing that, and it requires an internet connection :)

As for me I'm a little bit lucky when it comes to early Ford stuff, as I
bought a pallet of shit from an auction years ago which came from a
country Ford dealer and it includes parts manuals, workshop manuals,
accessory brochures, price lists, service bulletins, sales brochures,
production figures and just about any other piece of documentation that
ever come from the factory relating to models from XK to XY. There was
also promotional items like cuff links, ties, pens, badges and other
trinkets, as well as some very nice new old stock parts.

I paid a lot of money for it, and some of that has been recovered in
flogging some of it I have no interest in, but then you can count on the
fingers of one hand how often this shit comes up and it's invaluable
information when you spend time restoring these old tubs.

The really cool thing about it as well is that if your internet stops
working your reference material doesn't suddenly evaporate :)

[Xeno]

On 24/2/19 9:55 am, Noddy wrote:

>
> An odd comment coming from a bloke who hasn't put a finger on a car in
> almost 40 years, yet knows everything there is to know about them up to
> and including the current models. There is clearly only one way he's
> capable of doing that, and it requires an internet connection :)
>
> As for me I'm a little bit lucky when it comes to early Ford stuff, as I
> bought a pallet of shit from an auction years ago which came from a
> country Ford dealer and it includes parts manuals, workshop manuals,
> accessory brochures, price lists, service bulletins, sales brochures,
> production figures and just about any other piece of documentation that
> ever come from the factory relating to models from XK to XY. There was
> also promotional items like cuff links, ties, pens, badges and other
> trinkets, as well as some very nice new old stock parts.
>
> I paid a lot of money for it, and some of that has been recovered in
> flogging some of it I have no interest in, but then you can count on the
> fingers of one hand how often this shit comes up and it's invaluable
> information when you spend time restoring these old tubs.

Invaluable information comes from Ford clubs.

>
> The really cool thing about it as well is that if your internet stops
> working your reference material doesn't suddenly evaporate :)

Pity there's not a lot of early Fords around nowadays, most having gone
to scrap, just like your ex-army Fairlane should have done.

[alvey]

lol. It's impossible to not say; "What a blithering idiot!" at this load of
codswallop.

Ignoring minor lies like; "I paid a lot of money for it..." (Course you did
Knobbo. I believe you. Honest.), the idiot doesn't realise that his history
of sneering at people for being "Googlemeisters" and then stating that it's
"really cool" for him to get info from dusty and inefficient printed
manuals makes him look an utter bonehead. Give that idiot the blue ribbon
for Best in Breed.



alvey

[jonz@ nothere.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeez, the other contenders musta been a bunch of saddo`s.
>
>
>
> alvey

[Clocky]

On 24/02/2019 6:55 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 24/02/2019 7:34 am, lindsay wrote:
>> On 23/02/2019 11:54 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 23/2/19 11:01 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In your case, "DDD" represents "Sunlit Beige" as the colour for the
>>>>> top, middle and lower, meaning the car was painted in the same
>>>>> colour inside
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://xpfalcon.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/ford-vehicle-identification-xp-vin-only/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Gee, Noddy wasn't trying to make himself look knowledgeable through
>>> Dr Google again, was he?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "A clue Noddy, if you want to big note yourself, stick to topics about
>> which you have a clue or can Google sufficient info to make yourself
>> look knowledgeable." 28/06/15
>>
>> The voice of experience talking, transferred or otherwise... :-D
>
> An odd comment coming from a bloke who hasn't put a finger on a car in
> almost 40 years, yet knows everything there is to know about them up to
> and including the current models. There is clearly only one way he's
> capable of doing that, and it requires an internet connection :)
>
> As for me I'm a little bit lucky when it comes to early Ford stuff

<snip bullshit>

You Googled it like I did and came up with the same information, hours
after I did.

[Xeno]

Don't you just love how he made a *story* out of his Google enterprise?
At least there is *truth* in this story in so much as the facts came
straight out of Google. The pallet of old Ford shit, well maybe that
springs from his fertile imagination. ;-)

[alvey]

You could try asking for a pix of this expensive reference library...



alvey

[Lindsay]

Like DNA? London Smog? Outboards?

> At least there is *truth* in this story in so much as the facts came
> straight out of Google. The pallet of old Ford shit, well maybe that
> springs from his fertile imagination.   ;-)

Like newspapers, weight from photos, Oceanography in geography class in
primary and secondary school....

HTH. :-D




--
First xeno says "They were deleted. Noddy deleted them".
Then he was asked to show the threads the deleted posts were in.
"I know where the threads are. The posts are no longer there." he said.
So show us the threads, we asked. This is where he goes real quiet..
Then we laughed at the liar who snookered himself with his own lies :-D
"I have redressed it and it's no longer an issue. Simple as that."

[Noddy]

--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Noddy]

On 24/02/2019 5:12 pm, Lindsay wrote:

> On 24/02/2019 3:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

>> Don't you just love how he made a *story* out of his Google enterprise?
>
> Like DNA? London Smog? Outboards?

Lol :)

Don't you just *love* how he is compelled to cut down anything I say as
if his life depends on it? It's all part of his personality disorder
where I represent *such* a threat to him that he has to belittle
anything I say in order to make his *own* little piss poor excuse for a
life easier to deal with.

It's *sad*, but ridiculously funny at the same time :)

[jonz@ nothere.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As usual, noddy said *nothing*.....This time, literally. <FBG>

[Xeno]

You've forgotten his (fake) excuse not to respond to you or I - that
mighty killfail of his. Besides, the expensive and *physical* old Ford
reference library exists only in his mind.

[Xeno]

On 24/2/19 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:

>
> Lol :)
>
> Don't you just *love* how he is compelled to cut down anything I say as
> if his life depends on it? It's all part of his personality disorder
> where I represent *such* a threat to him that he has to belittle
> anything I say in order to make his *own* little piss poor excuse for a
> life easier to deal with.
>
> It's *sad*, but ridiculously funny at the same time :)
>

There's Noddy's mirror again.

[alvey]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 18:44:01 +1100, Noddy wrote:









alvey

[baden.m...@gmail.com]

Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594. .sido 170395. . Model 32144. . Paint a55. Trim 3214. Can u help me as well noddy u r the man

[Clocky]

On 26/04/2020 8:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594. .sido 170395. . Model 32144. . Paint a55. Trim 3214. Can u help me as well noddy u r the man
>

Just use Google like he does.

[Xeno]

On 26/4/20 10:33 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 26/04/2020 8:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594.  .sido 170395. . Model
>> 32144.   . Paint a55.   Trim 3214.   Can u help me as well noddy u r
>> the man
>>
>

It's a purpose made email created for this one post.

>
> Just use Google like he does.
>

For sure, and if Noddy replies, it will be a reply to himself. LOL

[Clocky]

On 26/04/2020 9:05 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 26/4/20 10:33 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 26/04/2020 8:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594.  .sido 170395. . Model
>>> 32144.   . Paint a55.   Trim 3214.   Can u help me as well noddy u r
>>> the man
>>>
>>
> It's a purpose made email created for this one post.

Even Ray Charles can see that.

>>
>> Just use Google like he does.
>>
> For sure, and if Noddy replies, it will be a reply to himself.  LOL
>
>

Be nice, he's reading this you know!

[Noddy]

On 26/04/2020 10:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594. .sido 170395. . Model 32144. . Paint a55. Trim 3214. Can u help me as well noddy u r the man

Wow. Where did this come from? :)

Don't know how old this is, or whether it's even still relevant, but
I'll help you out as much as I can.

From what you've listed, both the serial number and SIDO number don't
really tell you anything about the car. The Serial number is simply the
car's numerical place on the line during manufacuring, and the SIDO
number, which stands for "Singe Item Dealer Order", is simply the order
number the dealer used when placing the order for the car originally.

Back in the day of this XM Falcon there was no computer link to head
office. Rather, dealers had an order book (with carbon paper for anyone
who remembers what that is :), and each book had it's own series of
unique numbers that became the official order number when the order was
placed. Each dealer had such a book, and the numbers were as much a case
of being random as if each dealer went down to their local newsagent and
bought themselves a generic receipt book.

There is no way of tracking SIDO numbers to dealers.

As for the rest of your information, it is as follows:

Serial Prefix "XMBOD" indicates that you have an "XM" series Ford Falcon
built at the Brisbane plant in October of 1964.

"32144" indicates that it was built as a "Deluxe Sedan" (body type 54B)
with a 170 cubic inch 6 and an automatic transmission.

As for the paint code, Ford always listed a 3 digit code which was used
to describe the colours listed on the roof, the middle and the lower
body sections (in that order). This was a hang-over from the 1950's
where cars like Customlines could be ordered in 2 and 3 tone colour
combinations, but by the time of the Falcon's arrival in 1960 3 tone
paint schemes had been discontinued. However the factory maintained the
3 digit paint code system up until the release of the XR Falcon in 1966.

In your case, a paint code of "a55" suggests that the car left the
factory with am Arctic White roof (the "a" part of the code) and a
Powder Blue" body (the "55" part). "5" was the paint code for Powder
Blue, and it's shown as "55" on your tag to indicate "middle and lower"
colours.

As for your interior trim, it was a two tone affair of "Light Blue
Metallic Vinyl" and "Blue Metallic Vinyl". Hey, it was the 1960's pal :)

All "Deluxe" sedans where a bench seat affair, and while this image
doesn't show you the exact colour it'll give you an idea of the layout.
It's from the original factory sales brochure:

> https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/brochures/_Ford_AUS_NZ/1964%20Ford%20XM%20Falcon%20DeLuxe/1964%20Ford%20Falcon%20Deluxe%20Brochure-13-14.jpg

And finally, when it was new your car looked exactly like this one here:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Falcon_(XM)#/media/File:Ford_Falcon_XM_Sedan.jpg

Which is taken from the Wiki "XM" page, and which also happens to be a
Powder Blue XM Deluxe sedan with an Arctic White roof. The spats and
whitewalls were optional extras :)

Hope that helps.

[Xeno]

On 26/4/20 11:41 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 26/04/2020 9:05 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 26/4/20 10:33 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 26/04/2020 8:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594.  .sido 170395. . Model
>>>> 32144.   . Paint a55.   Trim 3214.   Can u help me as well noddy u r
>>>> the man
>>>>
>>>
>> It's a purpose made email created for this one post.
>
> Even Ray Charles can see that.
>

For sure. So bloody obvious.

>>>
>>> Just use Google like he does.
>>>
>> For sure, and if Noddy replies, it will be a reply to himself.  LOL
>>
>>
>
> Be nice, he's reading this you know!

Of course. ;-)

He's desperately seeking relevance to anything trade related.

[Xeno]

On 26/4/20 12:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/04/2020 10:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594.  .sido 170395. . Model
>> 32144.   . Paint a55.   Trim 3214.   Can u help me as well noddy u r
>> the man
>
> Wow. Where did this come from? :)

Just look on your computer Noddy. I'm sure you'll find it.

>
> Don't know how old this is, or whether it's even still relevant, but

Only as old as this morning.

And only relevant to your relevance deprivation

> I'll help you out as much as I can.

As much as Google can.

Feel better now Noddy?

Now run along and feed your unicorn, it's feeling a little lonely.

Lockdown, you know!

[Clocky]

On 26/04/2020 10:22 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/04/2020 10:01 am, baden.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Serial prefix xmbod. , serial nu. 105594.  .sido 170395. . Model
>> 32144.   . Paint a55.   Trim 3214.   Can u help me as well noddy u r
>> the man
>
> Wow. Where did this come from? :)
>

Feigns surprise and asks where that came from?
LOL, now there is a giveaway.

<snip crap that any genuine poster would have found in minutes using
Google, as you did>

[kar...@optusnet.com.au]

Having a bit of trouble tracking down info on the XM

There is limited info online but nothing that really matches what's on the
car's plate -

Actually, here is all the info on the plate:

Serial Prefix
XM RXD

Model
32564

Paint
EEE

Trim
3133

Any info on the above or handy sites out there appreciated!
kar...@optusnet.com.au

[Noddy]

On 9/05/2020 10:22 am, kar...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
>
> Having a bit of trouble tracking down info on the XM
>
> There is limited info online but nothing that really matches what's on the
> car's plate -

Online information is difficult for some of the older models.
Fortunately I have a lot of factory literature.

> Actually, here is all the info on the plate:
>
> Serial Prefix
> XM RXD

XM RXD refers to an XM model Falcon built at Broadmeadows in November 1964.

> Model
> 32564

32564 is the code for a Deluxe Hardtop. Body type "63M"

> Paint
> EEE

A paint code of "EEE" indicates that the car left the factory in an
allover coat of "Koala Beige".

Yep. As the name suggests, it's horribly cardigan. I have exactly the
same thing here in an XP Futura hardtop. Fortunately, I've stripped mine
long ago :)

> Trim
> 3133

A trim code of 3133 indicates that the car originally had a trim colour
combination of of Pearl Beige metallic vinyl with Light Beige metallic
vinyl highlights.

Nice :)

> Any info on the above or handy sites out there appreciated!
> kar...@optusnet.com.au

There's an XM-XP coupe site on Facebook you might want to try, but
outside of that there is little information around dealing with XM's
specifically. XP's are catered for in a far greater way, and while
they're similar cars that share a lot of parts decoding information like
this on XP sites is next to impossible as the two cars used a completely
different VIN numbering system.

[Noddy]

On 9/05/2020 10:22 am, kar...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
>

Almost forgot. Don't know what your car looks like now, but in it's day
it looked like this:

> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSLPSu3g_o18WKnnRYI2xLyM8bypzCA--hAgOb8Y-hzvFBbNhsb&usqp=CAU

That's the best pic I could find, as Koala Beige XM Coupe's aren't
exactly common.

[Xeno]

On 9/5/20 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/05/2020 10:22 am, kar...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>>
>> Having a bit of trouble tracking down info on the XM
>>
>> There is limited info online but nothing that really matches what's on
>> the
>> car's plate -
>
> Online information is difficult for some of the older models.
> Fortunately I have a lot of factory literature.

Yet more Dorothy Dixers Noddy? You must really be relevance deprived!

>
>> Actually, here is all the info on the plate:
>>
>> Serial Prefix
>> XM RXD
>
> XM RXD refers to an XM model Falcon built at Broadmeadows in November 1964.
>
>> Model
>> 32564
>
> 32564 is the code for a Deluxe Hardtop. Body type "63M"
>
>> Paint
>> EEE
>
> A paint code of "EEE" indicates that the car left the factory in an
> allover coat of "Koala Beige".
>
> Yep. As the name suggests, it's horribly cardigan. I have exactly the
> same thing here in an XP Futura hardtop. Fortunately, I've stripped mine
> long ago :)

Naturally you had one almost identical. Who could have predicted that! LOL

>
>> Trim
>> 3133
>
> A trim code of 3133 indicates that the car originally had a trim colour
> combination of of Pearl Beige metallic vinyl with Light Beige metallic
> vinyl highlights.
>
> Nice :)
>
>
>> Any info on the above or handy sites out there appreciated!
>> kar...@optusnet.com.au
>
> There's an XM-XP coupe site on Facebook you might want to try, but
> outside of that there is little information around dealing with XM's
> specifically. XP's are catered for in a far greater way, and while
> they're similar cars that share a lot of parts decoding information like
> this on XP sites is next to impossible as the two cars used a completely
> different VIN numbering system.

How many more fake email addresses are you going to create in your never
ending quest for trade relevance?

[Daryl]

An example in the condition of the one in the pic would be worth a
dollar or 2.


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[Noddy]

They're getting up there.

Anything with a chrome bumper is bringing decent money these days, and
Falcon coupes are no exception. They're not quite up there compared to
other things which, in my opinion, is due entirely to the lack of a
factory V8 option, but they can bring big coin.

"Futura's" are the prize in the early Falcon coupe range, as they're
incredibly rare today. They were never a big seller back in their day
thanks to their hefty price tag, with only 430 XM and around 650 XP
Futura coupes being made originally, and a great many of them didn't
survive the custom car era of the 1980's.

Exactly how many of each survive today is unknown, but numbers would be
low and that reflects in today's prices. I know personally of an XP
Futura coupe that changed hands for 60 grand a couple of years ago, and
while I can't remember the last time an original XM Futura coupe in
decent condition came up for sale, but I watched a guy pay 5 thousand
bucks for a complete set of Xm Futura coupe stainless body moldings
because they're that hard to come by, and he was happy to pay it as he
had a genuine Futura coupe that had been "customised" in the 80's and he
didn't have a single one of them.

[Daryl]

When I was at Prorepair in BM buying the new battery for the Benz I was
telling Glen about the battery in my HK Kingswood V8 that lasted 13yrs,
he said "bet you wish you still owned it", he wasn't wrong:-(

--
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[alvey]

Well, 'none'. He's still got a shedload from the 'Merrimu Residents Action
Group' that he faked up on Facie.



alvey

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[Xeno]

Oh, yeah, forgot about that. I suppose you need an action group when
your residential area turns into an industrial estate. Nice high fence
they have around the wrecking yard if I must say so. Helps keep the
residents unaware of the true purpose but I guess the trucks hauling in
the wrecked cars would be a bit of a dead giveaway as would the scrap
metal trucks carting away the dross.

Such a lovely place to live - not. No wonder the estates are taking
decades to fill up.

[Noddy]

Yep.

[alvey]

> residents unaware of the true purpose...

Another reason is so that the truckies delivering the wrecks don't confuse
the wrecking yard with Knobbo's place.

> but I guess the trucks hauling in
> the wrecked cars would be a bit of a dead giveaway as would the scrap
> metal trucks carting away the dross.
>
> Such a lovely place to live - not. No wonder the estates are taking
> decades to fill up.

Maybe it's the threat of the toxic waste dump that's slowing down sales?
It's a mystery allright, especially when the weather there is; “I remember
looking up the average annual weather info between Coffs and
here once, and in just about every way imaginable it was a worse place
to be. On average it was wetter, windier and colder than here.” Knobb,
12Mar20

Hahahahahahahaha

[Xeno]

It was rather funny, wasn't it. Take today for instance,
Merrimu partly cloudy, high 15, overnight low 5.
Here at Red Hill Sunny high 22, overnight low 15.

Even Dorrigo, up on the top of the Divide, manages better than Merrimu:
high of 17, overnight low of 10.

Noddy will have the heater on this evening! We won't need it.

We had a nice bit of rain from 6PM until 10PM last night, watered the
garden for me.

Hmm, I guess the weather is why this place here is full of refugee
Victorians and why they aren't rushing to buy in the Merrimu Mesa. The
Victorians flee the cold winters and come up here for holidays, like the
climate, and stay.

[Lindsay]

Why haven't you mentioned the rainfall, Tomas? So fucking soggy earlier
this year, your zimmer frames now need a tow hitch.. conveniently forgot
about that, eh? lets see what the BOM says, not your gay little
cheaparse app on you gay little Apple piece of shit (did you ever stump
up with the proof of your lies re wind speeds at Merrimu? Of course not.
You ran away.... as you do.)

Details from BOM:

Coffs Harbour: Rainfall 2020
Jan 151
Feb 711
Mar 225

1100mm in three months. 1.1 metre of rainfall at the airport. Of course,
you, "up on the ridge" would get more.... if you knew about meteorology,
rather than oceanography in geography class, you'd know why...

And then it blows.... and blows...

Jan 20 3 days with wind speed under 30 kmh
Feb 20 6 days with wind speed under 30 Kmh
Mar 20 2 days with wind speed under 30 kmh.

Windy cunt of a joint just like your gob, Tommy. Doesnt know when to
close......

And of course, who could forget your Xmas Day of 2017, 96 km/h winds are
enough to blow the salad into next week....

11 days out of 91 where the wind has *NOT* blown up to a *minimum* of 30
km/h "up on the ridge", all 33m above sea level, next door to your
neighbors dunny. "We live on a ridge, the house facing north west, so we
have 270 degree views from our deck." Except Google Earth has a
different "view" of William Sharp drive... :-D What a desirable
shithole (giggle) you eek out your existence in, Tomas. You think it a
palace, I think it's a toilet.

Lets not forget the odd severe weather events every year, which you seem
remiss to mention. like 96km/h winds on xmas day 2017, 113km/h winds in
Oct 2016, 570mm of rain in March 2017 on top of those mentioned above...

What a cunt of a place your pathetic retirement village is, out in the
boonies of Cough's . You seem proud of it. I wouldnt go near it with a
zimmer frame. There arent too many better places like Coffs to wither
away and die.

Me? You could enjoy your retirement years at places like Narooma and
Jervis Bay in NSW, Lakes Entrance in Vic, and Ocean Reef and surrounds
in WA, and no doubt other places with better weather than your shithole
with its 'micro-climate" that seems to be all over the shop. :-D

> Even Dorrigo, up on the top of the Divide, manages better than Merrimu:
> high of 17, overnight low of 10.

Did you expect more from somewhere thats 2000k north of here?, You
simple dumb retard...

> Noddy will have the heater on this evening! We won't need it.

No, you'll be still repairing the damage from 1100mm of rain in 3
months, once the wind dies down so you dont fall off the fucking ladder...

> We had a nice bit of rain from 6PM until 10PM last night, watered the
> garden for me.

Yet you failed to mention the rainfall and continuous winds in your
previous posts.. what a surprise... But thats you....

>
> Hmm, I guess the weather is why this place here is full of refugee
> Victorians

You being one of those refugees that were suckered by the real estate
agents spiels, and bought in the shithole you're in.... Heaps better
places to live outside the cities, than remote outback coughs...

> and why they aren't rushing to buy in the Merrimu Mesa. The
> Victorians flee the cold winters and come up here for holidays, like the
> climate, and stay.

Like you, sucker? Bwahahahahahahahaha

Not me. I wouldnt stay in your shithole for $$$$. Plenty of better
places to retire to than damp old moldy wet and windy Coffs Harbour.

Pass.
>


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First xeno says "They were deleted. Noddy deleted them".
Then he was asked to show the threads the deleted posts were in.
"I know where the threads are. The posts are no longer there." he said.
So show us the threads, we asked. This is where he goes real quiet..
Then we laughed at the liar who snookered himself with his own lies
"I have redressed it and it's no longer an issue. Simple as that."

[Noddy]

Lol :)

What a cunt of a place. No wonder no one seems to want to stay there for
long :)

Yep. Me too. Wouldn't live in the shitty little retirement community if
you held a gun to my fucking head, but then we all know why Tommy bought
there, and that's because it was cheap.

And it was cheap because it's a little dingy shithole that has changed
hands, what, 4 times in 7 years wasn't it?

What a prize :)

[kar...@optusnet.com.au]

Thanks for all the info guys...
Please stop with the replies, I have been inendated with responses, with over 100 replies, I have all the info I need.
Special thanks to Noddy...

[Xeno]

On 10/5/20 5:52 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
Why Noddy, got your balls back again?

Take care they don't drop off in the cold tonight! Ramp that heater up.

> Yep. Me too. Wouldn't live in the shitty little retirement community if

Your overinflated ego wouldn't let that happen Noddy. Find the valve and
deflate it a bit.

But wait until your arthritis gets a bit worse, then you will understand
the concept of the cold getting into your bones. It's why retirees move
north Noddy, the warmer weather.

> you held a gun to my fucking head, but then we all know why Tommy bought
> there, and that's because it was cheap.

Actually, not all that cheap. House and land packages in Bacchus Marsh,
Werribee and similar are all cheaper - and you only get a block of
260-270 square metres. *How* do they fit a house on that sized block and
get *living space*? Up here, 400 sq metres minimum is the go and it was
like that in Victoria until Kennett changed the rules back in the 90s.
It's Victoria that has postage stamp blocks with postage stamp houses.
Our house is 198 sq metres on a 460 sq metre block, plenty of outdoor
living area.

>
> And it was cheap because it's a little dingy shithole that has changed
> hands, what, 4 times in 7 years wasn't it?
>
> What a prize :)

It is. Climate as good or better than the Gold Coast because it doesn't
have extremes, the extremes like you get in Melbourne of cold and heat.
It's a macro climate here. Ask yourself why Victorians are moving here
literally in their hundreds and not always in their retirement years
either. The Bacchus Marsh couples down the hill, they moved here because
of the weather, the work, and the fact that Bacchus Marsh was turning
into a shithole, another dormitory suburb like Melton. The neighbour
over the road - moved here in their 30s. My mate out at Corindi moved
here from Eltham, saw what he liked when working on the Pacific Highway
realignment, bought a farm and has lived here ever since. The lady who
lives behind us, moved here in her 30s. Our suburb of Red Hill has a
good mix of locals and blow ins.

And you, well, you have scenic views of the high fence around the
wrecking yard over the way. And here you were thinking you were moving
into rural residential and now you find out it's actually an industrial
estate. Dead flat land Noddy, perfect for an industrial estate, and
you're right in the middle of one. Poetic justice!

[Xeno]

Your ego knows no bounds Noddy.

[Lindsay]

I guess once you learn "how good" the place is, you either die of old
age, or simply move/go elsewhere... going on my simple observations of
the BOM website, there's not an ice cube's chance in hell of me wasting
time in a senior citizens parking lot waiting room like Coughs. I'd
rather have some fun before I get planted. And It seems thats not
offering at the moment at Coffs. Unless you call cleaning out your
guttering, and reminding your neighbor that "Thats Amore" is not the
national album to be played every 2nd day, after inhaling a fair dose of
garlic, that was either in last nights dinner, or this mornings dunny......

Tommy, why didnt you just buy a two bedroom unit in a block of flats in
Camabramtta? Litghow?

Lakemba is a great place.!! :-)

And a real estate agent and/or his doctor told him it so. Makes it
correct, eh? Bwahahahahahahahhaha.. Sucker #5....

>
> And it was cheap because it's a little dingy shithole that has changed
> hands, what, 4 times in 7 years wasn't it?
>
> What a prize :)

My pissy little factory(!) in SE Melburg is worth more than his prized
shithole in outback Coughs... :-D And the big noting bullshit artist,
liar, hypocrite and plagiarist businessman wont understand why. :-)

But expect a reply to you, via this post, in 10 mins...

Tomas Clasener is as soft as a whelk. A shellfish with a conical shell,
no spine, that simply hides until the tide goes out. (aus.cars goes quiet)

Then struggles without his friend, the tide. Until it's all too late.

Tomas Clasener is what he is. A failure looking for love. Phtooey.

[Lindsay]

[Lindsay]

On 10/05/2020 6:59 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 10/5/20 5:52 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
> Why Noddy, got your balls back again?

You actually have some to claim as balls, running half man?

>
> Take care they don't drop off in the cold tonight! Ramp that heater up.

Wheras your " mans splittee" couldnt stop a lettuce leaf going limp in
48 hours.. but keep your lies and dribble going tomas.. more for the
Tomas Clasener Tome of lies...._

>
>> Yep. Me too. Wouldn't live in the shitty little retirement community if
>
> Your overinflated ego wouldn't let that happen Noddy. Find the valve and
> deflate it a bit.

Shoot yourself.

>
> But wait until your arthritis gets a bit worse, then you will understand
> the concept of the cold getting into your bones. It's why retirees move
> north Noddy, the warmer weather.

Hows the cancer going , Tomas?

>> you held a gun to my fucking head, but then we all know why Tommy
>> bought there, and that's because it was cheap.
>
> Actually, not all that cheap.

Cheap. Dirt cheap. How many times has it sold tomas?

House and land packages in Bacchus Marsh,
> Werribee and similar are all cheaper - and you only get a block of
> 260-270 square metres. *How* do they fit a house on that sized block and
> get *living space*? Up here, 400 sq metres minimum is the go and it was
> like that in Victoria until Kennett changed the rules back in the 90s.

> It's Victoria that has postage stamp blocks with postage stamp houses.
> Our house is 198 sq metres on a 460 sq metre block, plenty of outdoor
> living area.

So after typing all that self loving dribble out, why do people by it
and move on not long after? Coz they died?

Face it princess, it's a unit, on a corner block, with no gardens of any
worth. 460 m2 . Wow. And someone put what you call a "house" on that?
I guess that why you can smell the garlic from next door, eh?

Bwahahahahahahahhha You eek out an existence in a unit, on a corner
block, 5 kilometers from the town centre, and pretend it's a really
nice choice of a place to live. To see yourself out... Fuck me. :-)

I could go on, but its Mothers Day, and my Sons 21st birthday.
You stick to worrying about your crates in the "garage" of your
"house"... :-)

[Lindsay]

On 10/05/2020 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 10/5/20 6:33 pm, kar...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>> Thanks for all the info guys...
>> Please stop with the replies, I have been inendated with responses,
>> with over 100 replies, I have all the info I need.
>> Special thanks to Noddy...
>>
> Your ego knows no bounds Noddy.

Hows the deleted posts search going, shit for brains, Tomas Clasener?..?

Nothing but silence from you and your little butt puppies..

Maybe show where your magnificent enlightenment of DNA came from, or
perhaps your knowledge of London Smog? Or even your *knowledge* of
outboards with no oil injection?

C'mon Tomas Clasener: Dont look like the fucking idiot you are. You
purport to know all, as Google is your home page....

Grow a spine. Your Nemesis answered the question, You didnt. Just get
used to the idea . You've failed, (as usual) yet again. You dont have
the knowledge. Google has let you down again, DNA man.

Enjoy your failure, Tomas Clasener. Again. As usual.

[Noddy]

On 10/05/2020 7:24 pm, Lindsay wrote:
> On 10/05/2020 5:52 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> Windy cunt of a joint  just like your gob, Tommy. Doesnt know when to
>>> close......
>>>
>>> And of course, who could forget your Xmas Day of 2017, 96 km/h winds are
>>> enough to blow the salad into next week....
>>
>> Lol :)
>>
>> What a cunt of a place. No wonder no one seems to want to stay there
>> for long :)
>
> I guess once you learn "how good" the place is, you either die of old
> age, or simply move/go elsewhere... going on my simple observations of
> the BOM website, there's not an ice cube's chance in hell of me wasting
> time in a senior citizens parking lot  waiting room like Coughs. I'd
> rather have some fun before I get planted. And It seems thats not
> offering at the moment at Coffs. Unless you call cleaning out your
> guttering, and reminding your neighbor that "Thats Amore" is not the
> national album to be played every 2nd day, after inhaling a fair dose of
> garlic, that was either in last nights dinner, or this mornings dunny......

Yep. That seems to sum it up nicely :)

> Tommy, why didnt you just buy a two bedroom unit in a block of flats in
> Camabramtta? Litghow?
>
> Lakemba is a great place.!! :-)

Lol :)

>>>> and why they aren't rushing to buy in the Merrimu Mesa. The
>>>> Victorians flee the cold winters and come up here for holidays, like
>>>> the climate, and stay.
>>>
>>> Like you, sucker? Bwahahahahahahahaha

Lol :)

There is nothing to buy in the "Merrimu Mesa". The place is fully
populated. There is no vacant land for sale, and there is *certainly*
nothing someone the likes of Clasener could ever afford.

>>> Not me. I wouldnt stay in your shithole for $$$$. Plenty of better
>>> places to retire to than damp old moldy wet and windy  Coffs Harbour.
>>>
>>> Pass.
>>
>> Yep. Me too. Wouldn't live in the shitty little retirement community
>> if you held a gun to my fucking head, but then we all know why Tommy
>> bought there, and that's because it was cheap.
>
> And a real estate agent and/or his doctor told him it so. Makes it
> correct, eh?  Bwahahahahahahahhaha.. Sucker #5....

Hahahahahaha :)

He's got "Come in Spinner" tattooed into his forehead :)

>> And it was cheap because it's a little dingy shithole that has changed
>> hands, what, 4 times in 7 years wasn't it?
>>
>> What a prize :)
>
> My pissy little factory(!) in SE Melburg is worth more than his prized
> shithole in outback Coughs... :-D And the big noting bullshit artist,
> liar, hypocrite and plagiarist businessman wont understand why. :-)

Yep :)

> But expect a reply to you, via this post, in 10 mins...

No doubt. It's what he lives for. I give him a secret boner.

> Tomas Clasener is as soft as a whelk. A shellfish with a conical shell,
> no spine, that simply hides until the tide goes out. (aus.cars goes quiet)
>
> Then struggles without his friend, the tide. Until it's all too late.
>
> Tomas Clasener is what he is. A failure looking for love. Phtooey.

What a miserable fucking life he must have had. Any self respecting
person would have topped themselves *long* before now.

[Clocky]

Why do you bother responding? His joint, downwind from a sand mine is
only suitable for wrecking yards and scrap collectors which is why it's
been earmarked as a toxic waste dump site.

The munted little bogan has nothing over anyone here FFS.

[Clocky]

Hi Noddy :-)

[alvey]

On Sun, 10 May 2020 17:52:35 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 10/05/2020 5:13 pm, Lindsay wrote:

snip hilarity

It wouldn't be much of a stretch to imagine that this pair of chuckleheads
also believe that 5G towers are responsible for the novel virus.



alvey
"The Flat Earth Society are more worried than most about this virus. They
think that social distancing may push people over the edge". anon

[alvey]

Indeedy. But it's good to see the "munted little bogan" trying to 'stretch'
himself. Although moving up from mundane lies about his non-achievements to
attempting to bend nature is quite a step, I would have suggested something
simpler. Like building a better rat trap. But nevermind. Of course, like
everything else in his miserable and bitter life, he'll fail, but bravo for
trying I say.

[Xeno]

On 11/5/20 6:17 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 10 May 2020 17:52:35 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 10/05/2020 5:13 pm, Lindsay wrote:
>
> snip hilarity
>
> It wouldn't be much of a stretch to imagine that this pair of chuckleheads
> also believe that 5G towers are responsible for the novel virus.
>
>
>
> alvey
> "The Flat Earth Society are more worried than most about this virus. They
> think that social distancing may push people over the edge". anon
>

Social distancing, as in everyone keeping their distance from the lying
fraud, pushed Noddy over the edge years ago. That's why he, and he
alone, thinks the Merrimu Mesa is paradise.

[Xeno]

You know, I doubt the lying fraud has ever seen anything north of the
Vic border. Certainly he has no understanding of sub tropical weather.

[Xeno]

Bending nature, nah, he's just *lying* about something he has no
experience or knowledge of - as with his claims of apprentice training
and qualifications.

> simpler. Like building a better rat trap. But nevermind. Of course, like
> everything else in his miserable and bitter life, he'll fail, but bravo for
> trying I say.
>

Certainly a legend in his own lunchbox!
>
>
> alvey

[Xeno]

Isn't it amazing how Noddy just has to pat himself on the back - all the
time. That's narcissism and sociopathy writ large right there.

Oh, and you have to laugh at the 100+ replies - but *not a single one*
posted to aus cars where the original post was made.

[Noddy]

On 10/05/2020 9:01 pm, Lindsay wrote:
> On 10/05/2020 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 10/5/20 6:33 pm, kar...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the info guys...
>>> Please stop with the replies, I have been inendated with responses,
>>> with over 100 replies, I have all the info I need.
>>> Special thanks to Noddy...
>>>
>> Your ego knows no bounds Noddy.
>
> Hows the deleted posts search going, shit for brains, Tomas Clasener?..?
>
> Nothing but silence from you and your little butt puppies..
>
> Maybe show where your magnificent enlightenment of DNA came from, or
> perhaps your knowledge of London Smog? Or even your *knowledge* of
> outboards with no oil injection?
>
> C'mon Tomas Clasener: Dont look like the fucking idiot you are. You
> purport to know all, as Google is your home page....
>
> Grow a spine. Your Nemesis answered the question, You didnt. Just get
> used to the idea . You've failed, (as usual)  yet again. You dont have
> the knowledge. Google has let you down again, DNA man.
>
> Enjoy your failure, Tomas Clasener. Again. As usual.

This is funny. So, he's *now* claiming that these early Falcon posts are
"fake", and that *I* make them in an effort to pat myself on the back
and look knowledgeable.

To who? A bunch of retards in a dead newsgroup who couldn't give a fuck
about anything I have to say other than to turn it into fabricated shit
to suit themselves?

Bwahahahahahahahaha :) :) :) Methinks these fixated fucktards pull their
little plonkers too much :)

If they had any fucking brains at all they could check the message
sources and see that the only posts in this or any other thread that
have ever come from me are the ones that I put my name to, but it
doesn't surprise me that these mental midgets are stupid enough to come
up with a nonsensical idea like this.

I mean, these are the fucking morons who believe their leader Krypsis's
claims that I deleted posts despite me using Eternal September as my
posting source for this group which gives me no control whatsoever over
anything other than what appears on *their* server, and makes it
physically impossible for me to prevent anything appearing on or
deleting anything that does appear on Google Groups.

It doesn't get any funnier than this, and the best bit is that Clasener
*still* maintains to this day that it's true. And this bloke reckons he
was the "network administrator" at the trade school he taught welding
at, in a non existent welding shop?

The trade school where he had no idea where the cafeteria was which
would have been an extremely difficult thing for any "mechanic teacher"
to have achieved given that you had to stare at the fucking place every
single time you walked out of the mechanic's room :)

It's hard to imagine people this fucking stupid without full time carers :)



What a completely clueless, shallow ego void this useless cunt is, huh?

[alvey]

On Mon, 11 May 2020 15:14:08 +1000, Noddy wrote:


> This is funny. So, he's *now* claiming that these early Falcon posts are
> "fake", and that *I* make them in an effort to pat myself on the back
> and look knowledgeable.

Given that you've repeatedly lied about owning a business *and* having
multiple qualifications then people could, quite reasonably, make any
allegation against you they liked.

>
> To who? A bunch of retards in a dead newsgroup who couldn't give a fuck
> about anything I have to say other than to turn it into fabricated shit
> to suit themselves?

I won't speak for anyone else Knobbo, but *exactly* what "shit" have I
"fabricated" about you? Come on hero! Step out and step up!


snip whiney

[Xeno]

On 11/5/20 3:14 pm, Noddy wrote:

> This is funny. So, he's *now* claiming that these early Falcon posts are
> "fake", and that *I* make them in an effort to pat myself on the back
> and look knowledgeable.

If you went to the effort of faking an entire career in the automotive
industry, to whit, three apprenticeships and two trade qualifications
that you never signed on for, then yes, you would go to that effort.

>
> To who? A bunch of retards in a dead newsgroup who couldn't give a fuck
> about anything I have to say other than to turn it into fabricated shit
> to suit themselves?

Sociopathy, it's all you have in your reality deprived universe..

>
> Bwahahahahahahahaha :) :) :) Methinks these fixated fucktards pull their
> little plonkers too much :)

There's a puller in your shed but it isn't in a toolbox. ;-)

>
> If they had any fucking brains at all they could check the message
> sources and see that the only posts in this or any other thread that
> have ever come from me are the ones that I put my name to, but it
> doesn't surprise me that these mental midgets are stupid enough to come
> up with a nonsensical idea like this.
>
> I mean, these are the fucking morons who believe their leader Krypsis's
> claims that I deleted posts despite me using Eternal September as my
> posting source for this group which gives me no control whatsoever over
> anything other than what appears on *their* server, and makes it
> physically impossible for me to prevent anything appearing on or
> deleting anything that does appear on Google Groups.
>
> It doesn't get any funnier than this, and the best bit is that Clasener
> *still* maintains to this day that it's true. And this bloke reckons he
> was the "network administrator" at the trade school he taught welding
> at, in a non existent welding shop?

Better tell that to Daryl. He actually did an apprenticeship and he did
do welding as part of his motor mechanics apprenticeship syllabus.
What's more, he did it at the other campus of my college.

>
> The trade school where he had no idea where the cafeteria was which
> would have been an extremely difficult thing for any "mechanic teacher"
> to have achieved given that you had to stare at the fucking place every
> single time you walked out of the mechanic's room :)

Mechanic's room?

>
> It's hard to imagine people this fucking stupid without full time carers :)
>

You need a full time carer.

>
>
> What a completely clueless, shallow ego void this useless cunt is, huh?

Clueless, shallow ego void would be you because *you* were the one who
felt the need to fake your trade qualifications. Now that's shallow!

[Xeno]

On 11/5/20 3:56 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2020 15:14:08 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>> This is funny. So, he's *now* claiming that these early Falcon posts are
>> "fake", and that *I* make them in an effort to pat myself on the back
>> and look knowledgeable.
>
> Given that you've repeatedly lied about owning a business *and* having
> multiple qualifications then people could, quite reasonably, make any
> allegation against you they liked.

The giveaway in the fake poster saga is the fact that not a single one
of the 100+ responses supposedly received by the (fake) OP was ever made
here, the most logical place to respond. After all, that is what public
forums are all about. Noddy just didn't happen to have a handy 100+ fake
email aliases ready to hand. LOL

>>
>> To who? A bunch of retards in a dead newsgroup who couldn't give a fuck
>> about anything I have to say other than to turn it into fabricated shit
>> to suit themselves?
>
> I won't speak for anyone else Knobbo, but *exactly* what "shit" have I
> "fabricated" about you? Come on hero! Step out and step up!
>

There is only one *fabricator* here and that's Noddy himself.

Small wonder he's made this a dead newsgroup.

[Clocky]

On 11/05/2020 1:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 10/05/2020 9:01 pm, Lindsay wrote:
>> On 10/05/2020 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 10/5/20 6:33 pm, kar...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> Thanks for all the info guys...
>>>> Please stop with the replies, I have been inendated with responses,
>>>> with over 100 replies, I have all the info I need.
>>>> Special thanks to Noddy...
>>>>
>>> Your ego knows no bounds Noddy.
>>
>> Hows the deleted posts search going, shit for brains, Tomas Clasener?..?
>>
>> Nothing but silence from you and your little butt puppies..
>>
>> Maybe show where your magnificent enlightenment of DNA came from, or
>> perhaps your knowledge of London Smog? Or even your *knowledge* of
>> outboards with no oil injection?
>>
>> C'mon Tomas Clasener: Dont look like the fucking idiot you are. You
>> purport to know all, as Google is your home page....
>>
>> Grow a spine. Your Nemesis answered the question, You didnt. Just get
>> used to the idea . You've failed, (as usual)  yet again. You dont have
>> the knowledge. Google has let you down again, DNA man.
>>
>> Enjoy your failure, Tomas Clasener. Again. As usual.
>
> This is funny. So, he's *now* claiming that these early Falcon posts are
> "fake", and that *I* make them in an effort to pat myself on the back
> and look knowledgeable.

<snigger>

You're such a dumb ass.

[Clocky]

On 11/05/2020 1:14 pm, Noddy wrote:

Ah fabrication... funny you should bring that up. About those multiple
qualifications you claim to possess for which no evidence exists.

Proof please!

[jonz@ nothere.com]

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