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Amhir Sohail

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May 11, 2004, 9:49:49 PM5/11/04
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Hi all,

The clear coat on the roof and bonnet of my car is starting to flake
off in multiple spots with all this rain. It peals of so easily it
makes me think I can almost scrap the whole clear coat off.

I'm sure it won't be that easy but could I hire a buffer and remove
the clear without damaging the paint underneath?

I think it'd be safer to get a pro to respray the clear back on but
I'd like to save some labour and remove the old coat myself.

Appreciate any hints

jac

atec

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May 11, 2004, 10:44:48 PM5/11/04
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Amhir Sohail wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The clear coat on the roof and bonnet of my car is starting to flake
> off in multiple spots with all this rain. It peals of so easily it
> makes me think I can almost scrap the whole clear coat off.


it wont work

>
> I'm sure it won't be that easy but could I hire a buffer and remove
> the clear without damaging the paint underneath?

very doubtful


>
> I think it'd be safer to get a pro to respray the clear back on but
> I'd like to save some labour and remove the old coat myself.

ask some one who can see it up close and is professional .
>
> Appreciate any hints
>
> jac

Jagwire

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May 12, 2004, 1:01:05 AM5/12/04
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atec <"atec77(notspam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in news:40A18FA0.37AACC98
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Brake fluid comes to mind :-)

Amhir Sohail

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May 12, 2004, 1:34:04 AM5/12/04
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"atec" <"atec77(notspam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ask some one who can see it up close and is professional .

Ok will do, does this mean that they need to respray paint as well then?

If that's the case, I might as well do the whole car as I expect the rest to
do the same.

Thanks

Jac


Fraser Johnston

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May 12, 2004, 2:23:37 AM5/12/04
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"Amhir Sohail" <amhir...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Yep.

Fraser


atec

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May 12, 2004, 2:26:42 AM5/12/04
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you really are a vicious old bastard :P

atec

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May 12, 2004, 2:29:45 AM5/12/04
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cant see it so cant comment , its a possibility

John_H

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May 12, 2004, 3:42:14 AM5/12/04
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It would be very unusual for an original factory clear coat to behave
as you describe. OTOH if it's the result of a repair job then nothing
would be a surprise.

Depending on which it is would probably make a lot of difference as to
how it ought be approached. As too would the exact type of material
you're dealing with -- which might also depend on the age, make and
model of car.

You've told us SFA so far.

--
John H

Hotmail is a spam trap, wbuau...@ovtcbaq.pbz will reach me if you apply ROT13.

Amhir Sohail

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May 12, 2004, 3:59:21 AM5/12/04
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"atec" <"atec77(notspam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> cant see it so cant comment , its a possibility

If you don't mind, I'll take some photos tonight and post a link...

Thanks
Jac


atec

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May 12, 2004, 4:13:06 AM5/12/04
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now your going to get some sensible answers .

Amhir Sohail

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May 12, 2004, 4:15:38 AM5/12/04
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"John_H" <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You've told us SFA so far.

Yeah I find short questions normally get replies :-)

Its a 96 Morrocan Sands Series II commodore and it had the rear right panel
near boot fade first. Rest of car was ok so I thought just that panel was
resprayed (did show signs of a ding). One of my customers offered to spray
that panel for 100 bucks and he got the car looking good again.

He did say however that paint code was listed only as a full respray. I'm
guessing now the rest of the car was resprayed and is catching up. Only the
top of the car is suffering and I guess thats because it gets most sun. I
have seen other commodores of same colour fade (all on bonnet IIRC) so maybe
there is a bad batch of paint.

The rest of the car has no dings so I was hoping there is good paint
everywhere else and that can be brought back up through the shit.

She's getting on now (200k) so thousands of dollars for paint would be
better left aside for mechanical work as its "a commodore on gas so its got
fuck all life left" (as quoted by wise and all-knowing Nodster :-))

I will do it though if there is no other option as it's been a great car.
So...whats a decent full respray going to set me back?

Thanks

Jac

Jagwire

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May 12, 2004, 5:19:47 AM5/12/04
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"Amhir Sohail" <amhir...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
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>
> I will do it though if there is no other option as it's been a great
> car. So...whats a decent full respray going to set me back?
>

Anything from 3 grand to 10.

All depends on how good you want it.

Jagwire

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May 12, 2004, 5:17:40 AM5/12/04
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atec <"atec77(notspam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>> >> I think it'd be safer to get a pro to respray the clear back on but
>> >> I'd like to save some labour and remove the old coat myself.
>> > ask some one who can see it up close and is professional .
>> >>
>> >> Appreciate any hints
>> >>
>> >> jac
>> >
>>
>> Brake fluid comes to mind :-)
>
>
> you really are a vicious old bastard :P

And some :-)

Jagwire

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May 12, 2004, 5:20:29 AM5/12/04
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"Fraser Johnston" <fra...@jcis.com.au> wrote in
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> Yep.
>
> Fraser

Top answer!!

Anything else to add?

Amhir Sohail

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May 12, 2004, 8:27:10 AM5/12/04
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> cant see it so cant comment , its a possibility

I took a couple of pics but its so hard to get a clear shot with the
sky reflection. if these are no good, I'll park undercover and take
some more...

http://www.omega.iinet.net.au/car_pictures.htm

Thanks atec

Jac

atec

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May 12, 2004, 8:53:52 AM5/12/04
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Ill reserve judgment but from what I see I suspect your better off
doing a one coat over all as it looks to my eye like the car has a touch
up or two.. those patches may well fail to restore correctly

Patrick Young

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May 12, 2004, 9:25:23 AM5/12/04
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Amhir Sohail wrote:

> http://www.omega.iinet.net.au/car_pictures.htm

Looks cloudy - I predict rain :-) Seriously though on
that topic, nothing nasty has dripped on it while
it was parked *way* too long out in the sun?

Roof and bonnet are hot places. I've seen some real
shockers, even with enamel.

2 Pak is really the only way to go in .AU climates,
and a thick coating of it too.

You will need to strip the existing paint as *nothing*
will stick (as you have found out) to that s**t if
you end up repainting it.

Fraser Johnston

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May 12, 2004, 10:39:32 AM5/12/04
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"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
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Nope.

Fraser


Fraser Johnston

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May 12, 2004, 10:40:54 AM5/12/04
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"Amhir Sohail" <amhir...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Looks like it's respray o'clock to me. No painter will ever colour match
those spots. It's easier just to repaint the whole thing.

Fraser


Fraser Johnston

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May 12, 2004, 10:42:46 AM5/12/04
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"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
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It depends. My painter mate will respray a car for me for $500 in direct
gloss 2 pack. He also did a show car for $15000. It all depends on the
colour and the painter. Get quotes. If they don't have a booth forget it.

Fraser


Jagwire

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May 12, 2004, 5:01:58 PM5/12/04
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amhir...@yahoo.com.au (Amhir Sohail) wrote in
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The paint is fucked!

Noddy

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May 12, 2004, 7:18:20 PM5/12/04
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"Amhir Sohail" <amhir...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

> I think it'd be safer to get a pro to respray the clear back on but
> I'd like to save some labour and remove the old coat myself.

Short answer: No.

Longer answer:

The clearcoat will more than likely not be able to be cleanly removed like a
glove from the entire car, and you're probably going to find areas where it
has bonded very well. In these areas, you're probably going to damage the
paint layer underneath if you try to remove it yourself.

I'd also suggest that it would be next to impossible to simply remove the
clear layer and have the paint colour underneath remain in good enough
condition to have another layer of clear painted over the top of it.

Second short answer: You need a complete respray if you don't want it to
look "patched up"

Regards,
Noddy.


Amhir Sohail

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May 12, 2004, 8:34:01 PM5/12/04
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"Amhir Sohail" <amhir...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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The spots have a layer of shit on it as its beeen raining in Perth quite
heavily last week or so. The paint underneath is all the same colour.

I'll get some quotes for full respray.

Thanks guys

Jac


Fraser Johnston

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May 12, 2004, 9:49:59 PM5/12/04
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"Amhir Sohail" <amhir...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Send me an email and I'll give you my painter mates number. He does great
work and is really reasonable.

Fraser


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