Graham Farmer Freeway / Northbridge WA Tunnel?
G!
Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
Does the tunnel have permanent speed cameras as previously thought? If so,
where exaclty in the tunnel are they situated, and what levels of speed are
they triggered at? I am guessing they are a video-camera type seting, not
requiring a flash..
Any comments?
G!
Rob
theres anywhere in the tunnel they cant see. like a camera every 50 meters
or something!
Im told that the police cant sit in the emergency lane and ping people with
handhelds.. Be interesting to know if they have permenant ones in there. Im
sure if people start hooning thru at 180 there will be soon!
Rob
G! <sen...@it.net.au> wrote in message news:8ekh84$tri$1...@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
Braegan
>Gday all,
>
>Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
>and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
I went for a drive along there on the Tuesday or Wednesday after it
opened... and I was quite impressed... been thinking what a waste of
money before that!
>
>Does the tunnel have permanent speed cameras as previously thought? If so,
>where exaclty in the tunnel are they situated, and what levels of speed are
>they triggered at? I am guessing they are a video-camera type seting, not
>requiring a flash..
>
The tunnel/fwy website at www.mrwa.gov.au says it not only has speed
cameras but also ones for surveillance too.... A mate off IRC went
thru on his bike.. and said he'd seen no evidence of any cameras. as
for myself I was too busy watching the road :)
Sounds pretty spiffy the surveillance and other systems they have in
place. The tunnel even has its own tow trucks! so if you break down
they can pulll you out of the tunnel for free! Also if there is a
problem, they can break into you car radio (they rebroadcast all
channels) or put announcements over the loud speaker.
That exercise they did in there a while ago. The group Im in was
invited to that to partake in it, pity I had to work.
As a matter of interest, the emergency fans they had in there, were
being operated that day, and were pulling 'toxic gas' (theatrical type
smoke) and were only turned on on one side and so was pulling the
smoke out straight into the easterly wind.
Bystanders witnessed the smoke come out of the tunnel, hesitate, and U
turn back into the other side!
Brendan
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Brendan
twi...@cygnus.uwa.edu.au
Western Australia
Warren Duff
exist of the tunnel, just before the new bridge. A couple of bikes, with a
few handhelds. Getting drivers as they accelerated out of the tunnel. This
was about 1:00pm-ish.
All radio stations work correctly in there, as do mobiles (Optus actually
comes up with CELL ID, which is the first one that I am aware of in WA). I
have been told that all the stations are rebroadcasting on leaky coaxial
thourghout the tunnel, with micocells being used for the mobiles.
Warren Duff
"G!" <sen...@it.net.au> wrote in message
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> Gday all,
>
> Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
> and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
>
> Does the tunnel have permanent speed cameras as previously thought? If
so,
> where exaclty in the tunnel are they situated, and what levels of speed
are
> they triggered at? I am guessing they are a video-camera type seting, not
> requiring a flash..
>
> Any comments?
>
> G!
>
>
Kieron Murphy
>Gday all,
>
>Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
>and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
>
>Does the tunnel have permanent speed cameras as previously thought? If so,
>where exaclty in the tunnel are they situated, and what levels of speed are
>they triggered at? I am guessing they are a video-camera type seting, not
>requiring a flash..
Don't know about sppeds cameras, but a friend took his family through
it a few times in succession on Saturday and he was pulled over by
security and asked what he was doing !!!
As for general comments, I think it has increased traffic on the North
bound lanes on the Mitchel, since its been open the Lake Monger
freeway entrance has been backed up to Cambridge St, before the 'Poly
Pipe' it was a breeze.
Kieron
Matt Jurkans
cameras I'm sure they could time how long it takes you to get through
the tunnel if they really wanted to, like 1.6km divided by 5secs =
320km/h :)
Matt
"G!" wrote:
>
> Gday all,
>
> Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
> and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
>
> Does the tunnel have permanent speed cameras as previously thought? If so,
> where exaclty in the tunnel are they situated, and what levels of speed are
> they triggered at? I am guessing they are a video-camera type seting, not
> requiring a flash..
>
> Any comments?
>
> G!
Graham Minchin
Orrong Rd seems a lot busier now, which is no surprise really. Probably
full of people like me - just driving through the tunnel for the hell of
it :)
Graham
Travis Morien
: Money well spent if you ask me.
: Orrong Rd seems a lot busier now, which is no surprise really. Probably
: full of people like me - just driving through the tunnel for the hell of
: it :)
: Graham
I took it homw the other day, I don't know how busy Orrong used to be, but
it seemed way overloaded. they also had the traffic light synchronisation
all wrong, it was a disaster. i hear they are fixing this now.
At any rate, GFF isn't really the most convenient route for me where I
live, so I just take Albany Highway instead.... but now the traffic on AH
is much lighter, I am arriving home 20 minutes earlier than I ever did and
I don't really get anywhere near GFF... so I like it!
Does anyone know, btw, if Roe Hwy (eventually0 will intersect with GFF?
if so that would suit me well, since Albany Hwy, while the most direct
route for me is a 60kmh all the way shooting gallery for multanova
cameras.
Travis
Shaun Norman
down through Rockingham and intersect with Rae Rd. But now it's got a faint
outline that its going to cross with Stock Rd (the northern side of Stock Rd
Markets) now.... as you've most probably noticed the work their doing to
Roe Hwy as you travel down albany Hwy, one day it might be connected to
there.
Shaun
> Does anyone know, btw, if Roe Hwy (eventually0 will intersect with GFF?
> if so that would suit me well, since Albany Hwy, while the most direct
> route for me is a 60kmh all the way shooting gallery for multanova
> cameras.
>
> Travis
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Braegan
<duffwh@SPAM_SUXSpop.ses.curtin.edu.au> wrote:
>When I drove throught it on Saturday, there was a radar trap on the east
>exist of the tunnel, just before the new bridge. A couple of bikes, with a
>few handhelds. Getting drivers as they accelerated out of the tunnel. This
>was about 1:00pm-ish.
Forgot to mention that, there was a cop on the side heading to perth
at the West entrance when i went thru, just with a handheld etc
>
>All radio stations work correctly in there, as do mobiles (Optus actually
>comes up with CELL ID, which is the first one that I am aware of in WA). I
>have been told that all the stations are rebroadcasting on leaky coaxial
>thourghout the tunnel, with micocells being used for the mobiles.
Yup I had perfect reception on PMFM going thru, by rebroadcasting they
can tell you what to do over your car radio no matter what freq. ur on
in an emergency...
Said something on the website about how ur mobile would work (and they
made a big point about handsfree kits!) as the providers had put
repeaters or something in?
Braegan
>it seemed way overloaded.
When I went thru, cnr orrong and leach was pretty packed, took me
about 3 or 4 cycles to turn right onto Leach hwy...
Brendan
Matt Jurkans
do though, they are both very busy roads. Orrong has always been busy
but yeah it's probably worse now.
Matt
Martin Pot
>Gday all,
>
>Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
>and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
>
>Does the tunnel have permanent speed cameras as previously thought? If so,
>where exaclty in the tunnel are they situated, and what levels of speed are
>they triggered at? I am guessing they are a video-camera type seting, not
>requiring a flash..
I read somewhere that they couldn't install speed cameras in the
tunnel because the lighting would mean the photos weren't clear
enough.
Cheers,
Martin.
m.t.pot at ieee dot org
Matt Jurkans
beam/signal/whatever gets reflected around.
Matt
Phil L
> On Tue, 2 May 2000 02:15:22 +0800, "G!" <sen...@it.net.au> wrote:
>
> >Gday all,
> >
> >Just wondering whether anyone has any opinions of the Northbridge Tunnel,
> >and the new Graham Farmer Freeway in general?
> I went for a drive along there on the Tuesday or Wednesday after it
> opened... and I was quite impressed... been thinking what a waste of
> money before that!
I'm not that impressed.......
First time I went thru was about 3 or 4 days after it opened...... I could not
do more than 60km's thru there due to traffic.....
It's not been too bad lately as I've been using it when the traffic is fairly
low.....
The government loves to tell us that it is "on time, on budget, and toll free",
which is all good.... but my problem with it is this:
"Who the hell builds a 2 lane freeway in the year 2000?????????"
In a couple of years time every cent that was spent on the feeway and tunnel
will be wasted, as you can't widen a tunnel that easily......
--
Phil L.
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Phil L
>
> >
> >All radio stations work correctly in there,
> as do mobiles (Optus actually
> >comes up with CELL ID, which is the first one that I am aware of in WA).
Optus have been running Cell ID for a while now.... tho it only appears to work
for me when I am in the wrong cell.... ie. sitting at home in Cottesloe,
sometimes it will tell me I am on Rotto...... and I was sitting in the bar at the
Last Drop (Kalamunda) last night, while my mobile was apparently in Noranda.....
:-)
Also found out yesterday that Telstra have recently (ie. last couple of days)
started broadcasting Cell Info on their network too.... and theirs is displaying
location all the time..... (not sure if this is a discrepency between phones or
networks.... I have a lowly Nokia 5110, while the bloke who told me about
Telstra's one had a more up-spec 7110)
> I
> >have been told that all the stations are rebroadcasting on leaky coaxial
> >thourghout the tunnel, with micocells being used for the mobiles.
>
> Yup I had perfect reception on PMFM going thru, by rebroadcasting they
> can tell you what to do over your car radio no matter what freq. ur on
> in an emergency...
Can't really confirm or deny that...... and I don't expect I'll be hearing too
many emergency broadcasts over the 10 stacker :-)
>
> Said something on the website about how ur mobile would work (and they
> made a big point about handsfree kits!) as the providers had put
> repeaters or something in?
yeah... most (all?) networks have provided repeaters for the tunnel.... tho leaky
co-ax would probly have done the job (and may be what they've really used....)
Phil
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Brendan
> twi...@cygnus.uwa.edu.au
> Western Australia
Franz Esterbauer
tunnel. After all the Northbridge tunnel isn't the first tunnel in the
world.
Franz
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Matt Jurkans
in there so they can just time how long it takes to go through and get
an average speed if they really wanted.
Matt