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Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:01:24 AM9/29/09
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Despite the protestations of the exulted Know nothing knowall,
commonly referred to as Noddy, an 8 port cast iron mini head WAS made,
and was indeed homologated

Yes Nod...I did need to search around to find a document that proved
what I knew....unlke you who preferred to just bullshit!

Part No. C/AEG 612

http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/pdf/1970%20FIA%20HOMOLOGATION%20-%20MINI.pdf

Here you'll find an homologated 8 port CAST IRON cylinder head
Part No. C/AEG 612

Of course you'll need to scroll down to find it. (Page 31)

Nod, I can already hear your protest that you don't go to links,
However I believe that enough people will follow the link and scroll
down to PAGE 31 in the PDF document to realise that once again you've
tried to bullshit your way into a percieved position of knowall!

Many will now realise that you are indeed a know nothing
knowall....others of course will not believe their eyes and continue
to hold you in awe!

Now go fuck yourself!


OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

Jason James

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:37:48 AM9/29/09
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Yeah,..but was it available in Australia?

Jason


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>

and this has exactly what to do with YOUR claim that you had an Alloy 8 port
cross flow head Ozone ??
so now you go fuck yourself, trying to divert the argument AWAY from one of
your claims isn't going to work this time.
though it is fun to watch you try and wriggle and squirm :-)
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Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:42:08 AM9/29/09
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You forgot the smiley!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:42:58 AM9/29/09
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You are of course a follower....

Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Despite the protestations of the exulted Know nothing knowall,


> commonly referred to as Noddy, an 8 port cast iron mini head WAS made,
> and was indeed homologated

There were a number of crossflow heads made Oz, in both aluminium and cast
iron. I *did* say this a number of times. My only contention was that the
Arden head is the *only* crossflow head that ever appeared in the Special
Tuning catalog, and you eventually shifted ground to agree, so why you're
going to extreme lengths here isn't exactly clear.

> Yes Nod...I did need to search around to find a document that proved
> what I knew....unlke you who preferred to just bullshit!

Is that right?

I've been sitting here waiting for you to show me where *BMC* made an iron 8
port head that was available as a special tuning part, and was the
predecessor of the Arden 8 port that you claimed existsed "only for a short
time before being superseded".

I presume you're now going to show me that. Right?

> Part No. C/AEG 612
>
> http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/pdf/1970%20FIA%20HOMOLOGATION%20-%20MINI.pdf
>
> Here you'll find an homologated 8 port CAST IRON cylinder head
> Part No. C/AEG 612
>
> Of course you'll need to scroll down to find it. (Page 31)

Nice work Oz. *Shit* you must have been busy :)

> Nod, I can already hear your protest that you don't go to links,
> However I believe that enough people will follow the link and scroll
> down to PAGE 31 in the PDF document to realise that once again you've
> tried to bullshit your way into a percieved position of knowall!

On the contrary Oz, I followed that link because I was prepared to give you
the benefit of the doubt and assumed you'd post a link to something that
actually confirmed what you said earlier, but alas I was disappointed yet
*again* :)

> Many will now realise that you are indeed a know nothing
> knowall....others of course will not believe their eyes and continue
> to hold you in awe!

Will they?

I'd doubt it myself, but while they're pondering that they might like to
cast their minds back to your previous comments that the cast iron head you
were talking about was the precursor of the Arden aluminium head and that it
only existed for a short time before being taken out of service and replaced
with the Arden unit. They might also like to consider that while this
document you've linked to shows that a cast iron crossflow head carries a
BMC part number there is no mention of it being a "Special Tuning" part (and
you yourself said the head you were talking about never appeared as such).
They also might consider that if your comments about the "original MoWoG"
crossflow head being the short lived forerunner to the Arden head were true
then it would be highly unlikely for it to be included in a Homologation
list dated January 1970 (according to the date stamp in the document you
cited) when the Arden unit was already a factory works item some 2 full
years prior. The document doesn't give any indication as to who made the
head, and though the picture quality is very poor the the distinctive top
port design looks remarkably like a Westlake unit (which, if you recall, I
discussed previously).

That was a *really* nice try Oz, and it sure as shit must have kept you busy
for *ages*, but it doesn't square with any of your previous comments in the
slightest. Of course, why you should be so hung up about this particular
subject is baffling, as you never used a cast iron head, and it has nothing
whatsoever to do with your *own* Mini racing experiences, right?

More attention shifting scenery for the audience Oz?

> Now go fuck yourself!

Lol :)

A bit testy are we? Maybe you can *really* rub my nose in it by showing us
the pictures of your car with your "unique manifold and carb setup", or name
that class you raced in?

Everybody was over this and moved on, but you just can't help yourself, can
you? :)

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Atheist Chaplain

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you have of course avoided the question :-)

Clocky

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:14:22 AM9/29/09
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It would really help your cause if you posted some pics of your setup,
surely you have one or two you can show?

John_H

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Sep 29, 2009, 3:10:48 AM9/29/09
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Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>
>and this has exactly what to do with YOUR claim that you had an Alloy 8 port
>cross flow head Ozone ??

You dead shit!

>so now you go fuck yourself, trying to divert the argument AWAY from one of
>your claims isn't going to work this time.

The poor sod's been googling for a solid week (or is it longer), and
you're not impressed!

>though it is fun to watch you try and wriggle and squirm :-)

Obsessive-compulsive disorder isn't funny!

(Well, probably not for thems that's afflicted) :))

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the_dawggie

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_ANY_ mental illness is not a walk in the park.

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Noddy

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> _ANY_ mental illness is not a walk in the park.

And yet it seems to be enjoyable for you. Go figure :)

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the_dawggie

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On Sep 29, 5:51 pm, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

I never typed that. It is not enjoyable. What is any joy
from it is I don't now have to go to work. Work is what
started depression -> alcohol.

Thank god (yeah there isn't one) that I didn't get into
Droogs or ciggies.

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John_H

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the_dawggie wrote:
>On Sep 29, 5:10�pm, John_H <john4...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Obsessive-compulsive disorder isn't funny!
>
>_ANY_ mental illness is not a walk in the park.

You're agreeing he's got a problem then?

(As seems obvious to most of the rest of us.) :)

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the_dawggie

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:20:46 AM9/29/09
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Yes I do, a number of them, and am not afraid to say so.

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jonz

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worse for you.....you don`t/won`t acknowledge....*you* go figure.....
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>


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Clocky

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John_H wrote:
> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>
>> and this has exactly what to do with YOUR claim that you had an
>> Alloy 8 port cross flow head Ozone ??
>
> You dead shit!
>
>> so now you go fuck yourself, trying to divert the argument AWAY from
>> one of your claims isn't going to work this time.
>
> The poor sod's been googling for a solid week (or is it longer), and
> you're not impressed!

Unlikely since I posted a link to that website back in the other thread.


Noddy

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"Athol" <athol_S...@idl.net.au> wrote in message
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> Interesting. Does this mean that, to try to deny his own mental
> illness, oz will have to try to claim that dawg is sane, or
> alternately have to claim that dawg is so insane that his
> assessment of oz being also mentally ill is untenable? :-)

Hmmm...

That sounds like a corner surrounded by paint that's never going to dry :)

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Noddy

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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> worse for you.....you don`t/won`t acknowledge....*you* go figure.....

Go figure *what*?

What the fuck are you on about you blithering fucking moron?

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jonz

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Sep 29, 2009, 5:27:04 AM9/29/09
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heheheh......

Noddy

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"Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
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> Unlikely since I posted a link to that website back in the other thread.

It's probably taken him that long to plough through that website and the
best he can come up with is something that is so far removed from what he
was talking about it makes Dubya's justification for going to war against
Iraq look rock solid.

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Noddy.


jonz

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perzackily where *you* reside.............

Noddy

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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> heheheh......

I'll bet when you were a kid your mum had to tip a can of Pal down your
Y-fronts just so the dog would play with you.

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Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:00:46 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:

>
><Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>news:pk43c5dq2drd2gmkb...@4ax.com...
>
>> Despite the protestations of the exulted Know nothing knowall,
>> commonly referred to as Noddy, an 8 port cast iron mini head WAS made,
>> and was indeed homologated
>
>There were a number of crossflow heads made Oz, in both aluminium and cast
>iron. I *did* say this a number of times. My only contention was that the
>Arden head is the *only* crossflow head that ever appeared in the Special
>Tuning catalog, and you eventually shifted ground to agree, so why you're
>going to extreme lengths here isn't exactly clear.

Actually Nod, You said that a cast iron 8 port head was NEVER made!

You constantly claimed that the only 8 port available from ST was an
Arden ally one.

That's all!

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Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:13:33 +1000, "Atheist Chaplain"
<abu...@cia.gov> wrote:

You will of course avoid any contention that your leader is full of
shit, a know nothing knowall.

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:22 +0800, "Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote:


>It would really help your cause if you posted some pics of your setup,
>surely you have one or two you can show?
>
>

Nah...I've clearly shown that Nod despite all his Googling and bluff,
had absolutely no clue about a cast iron head.

Yet he managaed to convince his follower that he knew it all.

Ya see Clocky...I was there...He got lost in the Google!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:23:04 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:


>
>That sounds like a corner surrounded by paint that's never going to dry :)

You're in the corner Nod...I was there, I handed you the brush.

Just took a while to find the right paint!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:42:09 +1000, "Blue Heeler" <wo...@bark.net>
wrote:

>Noddy wrote:
>
>> It's probably taken him that long to plough through that website and
>> the best he can come up with is something that is so far removed from
>> what he was talking about it makes Dubya's justification for going to
>> war against Iraq look rock solid.
>

>I've been away since Saturday morning riding a bicycle from Cairns to
>Cooktown with 190 other people to raise money for the local cardiac
>foundation.
>
>To my very great pleasure I survived and made it to Cooktown although
>the two mountain ranges presented a bit of fun and the second one
>resulted in me spending a couple of hours in the sag wagon.
>
>Anyway, to save me searching through 1000 posts, has OzLiar resurfaced
>yet? What about his socks? Have they been quiet too?
>
>
>PS this is not an Oz-style post "I've been off flying/saving the
>world/causing global financial crises etc."
>
>But it was a lot of fun and it is amazing that there are no strangers
>after 2 and a half days of fairly solid gut bust.
>
>The party at the Cooktown RSL was a blast and after the neurofen kicked
>in this morning the trip back on the bus was fun, everyone pointing out
>the bits they remembered (usually steep bits).
>
>We raised about $60k for the local cardiac ward so it was a worthwhile
>investment for those of us over 50.....

Good for you Dog.
A friend is riding around Pt Philip Bay in a day for The Smith Family
on 18th.

BTW I have been off flying UK and US as well as a few hours private

Jason James

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"Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote in message
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Fruit of GW's loins,....Lol !!

Jason


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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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Why would I do that Ozone, after all Noddy has soundly trounced you with
such authority that only someone with a sick pathological need to have
people believe his lies would try and keep this dead horse whipped :-)
And again avoidance noted.
the only one here that seems to believe you is jonz, the news groups pet
moron and wannabe halfwit, I suppose it is true then, YOU can judge a man by
the company he keeps.

Atheist Chaplain

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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projecting again Ozone. Just because you say it, doesn't make it true,
actually around here if you said it most would instantly think it was yet
another of your lies, must suck to be held in such low regard.

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:49:54 +1000, "Atheist Chaplain"
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Yeah trounced I was...especially with the proof he showed.
You know the bit about the 8 port cast head never being made
Oh and the bit about me needing a bulge to fit the carbs under the
bonnet because they wouldn't fit any other way. then telling me that I
didn't need the bulge .... I think he realised that after I'd told him
a dozen times that it was the purpose of the exercise..
The the one about the weber manifold that wasn't needed with the 8
port....can't understand why Special Tuning went to the trouble of
making one then.....

The list goes on Chappie.....yet I've been trounced!?

Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
I do admire your loyalty though.

Noddy

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> Actually Nod, You said that a cast iron 8 port head was NEVER made!

Er, um, care to cite that post?

I've said a *number* of times now that there have been *many* crossflow
heads made for the A series engine, but only *one* ever appeared in the BMC
Special Tuning catalogs which was the Arden alloy 8 port. *You* claim that a
cast iron precursor to this head was made in limited numbers for a short
time, yet details of it are incredibly scant and seemingly known only to
you.

> You constantly claimed that the only 8 port available from ST was an
> Arden ally one.

Indeed.

> That's all!

Pretty much, and I fail to see what point it is your mindless ramblings on
this subject are trying to highlight.

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Noddy

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"Blue Heeler" <wo...@bark.net> wrote in message
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> We raised about $60k for the local cardiac ward so it was a worthwhile
> investment for those of us over 50.....

Well done.

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Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> BTW I have been off flying UK and US as well as a few hours private

UK and US as well as a few hours "private" all in the space of a week?

Holy fuck Batman! Where did you find the time to do all that googling about
heads that have absolutely nothing to do with what *you* claim to have used?
:)

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Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah trounced I was...especially with the proof he showed.
> You know the bit about the 8 port cast head never being made

Er, um, can you cite a reference to where I said that please?

> Oh and the bit about me needing a bulge to fit the carbs under the
> bonnet because they wouldn't fit any other way. then telling me that I
> didn't need the bulge .... I think he realised that after I'd told him
> a dozen times that it was the purpose of the exercise..

Ah, no Oz. You get a "D" for comprehension here I'm afraid :)

What I told you was that I couldn't understand *why* you needed to run a
manifold for a pair of Weber DCOE's when the head came *standard* with a
manifold bolt pattern that would take the two carbs without needing a
manifold *and* fit under a standard bonnet. Your problem was in bullshitting
about using a manifold at all, as one you committed yourself to that hokey a
standard bonnet was no longer an option. Once you realised this you "had a
bulge", then "didn't have a bulge" and couldn't make up your silly fucking
mind until you'd mentally sussed how it would or wouldn't work :)

Still, in all of this nonsensical ranting you've managed to completely avoid
any detailed explanation of *why* you needed to run a manifold with a "split
Weber" setup, provide a picture to "prove it" as you claimed you would or
even "remembered" the name of the class you ran in.

> The the one about the weber manifold that wasn't needed with the 8
> port....can't understand why Special Tuning went to the trouble of
> making one then.....

Of course you can't, because you're a clueless fuckwit who despite claims to
the contrary knows absolutely *nothing* about tuning enignes. See if you can
guess why there is around 67 different types of inlet manifolds to suit
small block Chev engines all with a standard Holley four barrel carb flange?

Fucking idiot.....

> The list goes on Chappie.....yet I've been trounced!?

Comprehensively, and the only one who believes any different is you and your
love child Jonz :)

> Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
> I do admire your loyalty though.

I'm in awe of your complete lack of self respect, and I'd bet pretty good
money that I'm not on my own there pal :)

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Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Nah...I've clearly shown that Nod despite all his Googling and bluff,
> had absolutely no clue about a cast iron head.

Have you?

Fuck, I must have blinked and missed the bit were you provided conclusive
proof that a "MoWoG" cast iron crossflow head existed like you claimed :)

> Yet he managaed to convince his follower that he knew it all.
>
> Ya see Clocky...I was there...He got lost in the Google!

Yeah, *sure* you were Oz. We all believe you :)

Of course, this is the *perfect* oportunity for you to present your
photographic evidence, like you've threatened to do, and shut everyone up
for good. The minute you do, you win hands down.

We're waiting.....

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Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> You're in the corner Nod...I was there, I handed you the brush.
>
> Just took a while to find the right paint!

Lol :)

You remind me of a weakling with a blood nose laughing at the school bully
because he hurt his hand on your face :)

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Noddy.


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Jason James

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:22 +0800, "Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>It would really help your cause if you posted some pics of your setup,
>>surely you have one or two you can show?
>>
>>
> Nah...I've clearly shown that Nod despite all his Googling and bluff,
> had absolutely no clue about a cast iron head.
>
> Yet he managaed to convince his follower that he knew it all.
>
> Ya see Clocky...I was there...He got lost in the Google!

If as you are apparently crowing about that you've 'won',...why not show the
pictures of your Mini and Its underbonnet shot, plus the class you raced the
car in?

Jason


Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 5:38:51 PM9/29/09
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Hey Jace..not crowing that I've won anything.

Just showing again that Nod is a know nothing expert on everything.

And pictures?
Nah...can't be bothered searching them out and scanning
them...besides...I'd then be accused of bragging...

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Nod you have that look of the kid with his hand in the cookie jar.

The "oh shit I've been caught out" look...the one where you realise
that you've been caught by your bullshit.

Meanwhile you're building a trolley for your goalpost.

Jeßus

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In article <4ac26d24$0$29346$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
a...@ass.com said...
<snip>
:
:If as you are apparently crowing about that you've 'won',...why not show the
:pictures of your Mini and Its underbonnet shot, plus the class you raced the
:car in?

"The dog at the photo shop ate my roll of film"

Clocky

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If he has won a class in a particular vehicle and posted that he could be
easily identified so I don't blame him for not divulging such information,
however, there is no reason not to post a couple of photos of the car
itself.


Clocky

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Blue Heeler wrote:

> Noddy wrote:
>
>> It's probably taken him that long to plough through that website and
>> the best he can come up with is something that is so far removed from
>> what he was talking about it makes Dubya's justification for going to
>> war against Iraq look rock solid.
>
> I've been away since Saturday morning riding a bicycle from Cairns to
> Cooktown with 190 other people to raise money for the local cardiac
> foundation.
>
> To my very great pleasure I survived and made it to Cooktown although
> the two mountain ranges presented a bit of fun and the second one
> resulted in me spending a couple of hours in the sag wagon.
>
> Anyway, to save me searching through 1000 posts, has OzLiar resurfaced
> yet? What about his socks? Have they been quiet too?
>
>
> PS this is not an Oz-style post "I've been off flying/saving the
> world/causing global financial crises etc."

Sure...

> But it was a lot of fun and it is amazing that there are no strangers
> after 2 and a half days of fairly solid gut bust.
>
> The party at the Cooktown RSL was a blast and after the neurofen
> kicked in this morning the trip back on the bus was fun, everyone
> pointing out the bits they remembered (usually steep bits).
>

> We raised about $60k for the local cardiac ward so it was a worthwhile
> investment for those of us over 50.....

It ain't true unless you provide photographic evidence...


PS well done ;-)


Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 5:56:13 PM9/29/09
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I know you don't fit much into a day...I was gone for 10.

Oh and the Googling I really didn't need to, called in and saw an old
motor racing friend in UK who just like you has a library on Mini
memorabillia...he pointed me to the link.

And Nod...what I used is of little consequence...

You got firmly caught in the mire of your bluff and bullshit.

and unlike your accusations about me...You have been PROVEN to be full
of shit!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:14:07 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:

>
><Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>news:s9s3c5t28um3m9gt1...@4ax.com...
>
>> Actually Nod, You said that a cast iron 8 port head was NEVER made!
>
>Er, um, care to cite that post?
>
>I've said a *number* of times now that there have been *many* crossflow
>heads made for the A series engine, but only *one* ever appeared in the BMC
>Special Tuning catalogs which was the Arden alloy 8 port. *You* claim that a
>cast iron precursor to this head was made in limited numbers for a short
>time, yet details of it are incredibly scant and seemingly known only to
>you.

What you've said is a number of things.
They keep changing!

Critical ones were that ST never built an 8 port CI head...they
did....well, they had one cast.

Second wsas that it was never offered by ST...It was and needed a C/
part no. to be catalogued.

Another variation on your theme is NOW, that it never appeared in an
ST catalogue (goal posts where have you gone)....

>> You constantly claimed that the only 8 port available from ST was an
>> Arden ally one.
>
>Indeed.

You're wrong....and without access to every ST booklet and price list,
YOU REMAIN WRONG!


>
>> That's all!
>
>Pretty much, and I fail to see what point it is your mindless ramblings on
>this subject are trying to highlight.

Highlight?

Nod they show just how FOS you are!

Take your little diversion about the 8 port having a non std valve
sequence.....

Tell me Nod, what controls the valves?
What makes you think that changing the number of ports in a head
changes the valve sequence?

Yes Nod..it's the camshaft and the engine will run very happily with a
'normal' cam.

Clocky

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That's weak Oz, because you and me both know that you would like nothing
more then to rub Noddy's nose in it...


Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:26:59 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:


>standard bonnet was no longer an option. Once you realised this you "had a
>bulge", then "didn't have a bulge" and couldn't make up your silly fucking
>mind until you'd mentally sussed how it would or wouldn't work :)

Sorry Nod,,,,but I NEVER said I had the bulge...I didn't need it,
couldn't have one because the Mini Series wouldn't allow one.

That was the whole point of using only one throat of each weber!

How's the memory?

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:17:48 +1000, "Blue Heeler" <wo...@bark.net>
wrote:

>Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>
>> The list goes on Chappie.....yet I've been trounced!?
>>
>

>Actually "owned" would be more accurate Ozliar.

Yeah.
Like I care................

BTW wanna tell Nod about short field landings?

Better not eh....

Noddy

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"Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote in message
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> If as you are apparently crowing about that you've 'won',...why not show
> the pictures of your Mini and Its underbonnet shot, plus the class you
> raced the car in?

He can't, despite threatening to do so, because his entire story was nothing
other than a figment of his vivid imagination.

Oz's biggest problem is that he thinks everyone is dumber than he is, or at
the very least as equally dumb as he is, so when he "invents" this crap and
thinks it'll fly by his logic he gets his knickers in a twist when people
who do actually know better point out that the things he's claimed to have
done simply wouldn't work, are completely impractical or make absolutely no
sense whatsoever.

Like his class requirements that "forced" him to run a pair of split Webers
and him being capable of fabricating a manifold system that fed 4 ports from
two barrels and making that work well enough to win the odd race (while
fitting it all under a standard bonnet mind you), but *not* being smart
enough to do something as basic as sort out mixture issues on a set of four
Mikuni carbs.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Hey Jace..not crowing that I've won anything.

So, you're now saying that you *didn't* win any races in your split weber
"all under a standard bonnet" Mini?

> Just showing again that Nod is a know nothing expert on everything.

Let us know when you plan to start, won't you? You have a fairly large
audience here who'd just love to see you drive home the fatal blow.

> And pictures?
> Nah...can't be bothered searching them out and scanning
> them...besides...I'd then be accused of bragging...

Yeah, of course. Why didn't we see that coming? :)

I can assure you Oz, if you ever posted a picture of *anything* that proved
the slightest thing you've ever had to say, all you'd hear from me would be
an apology for calling you a liar. I imagine that would be something you'd
find incredibly satisfying, but then we all *know* why it's never going to
happen, don't we Oz?

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Regards,
Noddy.


Noddy

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"Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
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> That's weak Oz, because you and me both know that you would like nothing
> more then to rub Noddy's nose in it...

Of course he would, and if he did I'd be the first to apologise to him for
calling him a bullshit artist. The trouble for Oz is that he *can't* because
it never happened, and he hasn't been able to find a picture of anything on
the internet that he can palm off as "his" and not get caught.

Sad really.

Noddy

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"Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
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> If he has won a class in a particular vehicle and posted that he could be
> easily identified so I don't blame him for not divulging such information,

Agreed.

I've told him before I don't care about who he is, I have no desire to ever
know and even if I was to discover his "true identity" it would be by
accident and I wouldn't be interested in revealing it to anyone. I'm happy
to state that right here on the public record as not being my bag. As much
as a useless lying prick as I believe Oz to be only *he* has the authority
to reveal anything personal about himself in my opinion.

> however, there is no reason not to post a couple of photos of the car
> itself.

Absolutely.

This is his one and only chance to afford himself a shred of credibility or
forever be held in the contempt that he's brought upon himself.

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Noddy.


John McKenzie

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HOw ridiculous is it - he disappears for a week to google, and to led
dust settle so he can bluff some half truth and use out of context (or
outright false) quotes to try and prove his point? - He can google for a
week (and notice how quiet the sock puppets got?) and come up with fuck
all, but 'can't be bothered' digging up photographic proof he claims to
have. Goodness gracious no contradiction there whatsoever.

What a loser. It's like some 4 year old in kindergarten

"I have a million dollar diamond in my pocket I found in my backyard"
"sure you have, show it to us then"
"don't have to, nyer, I proved you all fuckwits, you said the sky is
green, bwahahahaha"

Not ONE legitimate forum member thinks Oz is anything other than a
moron, and that all his claims are complete fabrications.

Here is a tip Oz, you might actually get some friends one day if you
stopped being such a wanker. You aren't a con man, or a smooth talker -
people can see straight through your bullshit. Here is the problem - you
are dumb, dumb enough to be unaware of your own limitations, so you
_THINK_ you are winning the arguments, but in fact you are just showing
yourself to be more and more of an imbecile.

Here is a question Oz, if you have achieved so much, why not even one
photo? Why can't you name the class you raced and won in, if not because
it never happened, and you know that the results could be cross checked
and your deceit would be uncovered? But more importantly - if all those
achievements are real, why are you so insecure that you have to try and
prop yourself up with the constant bragging? Don't you feel humiliated
to know that everyone is laughing their arses off at you when you come
up with pre-pubescent excuses for not posting pics? Multi-millionaire,
posts through anonymous servers, but can't manage to upload a picture.
Sure, that makes about as much sense as christianity.

--
John McKenzie

John McKenzie

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:57:11 PM9/29/09
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Clocky wrote:
>
>
> If he has won a class in a particular vehicle and posted that he could be
> easily identified so I don't blame him for not divulging such information,
> however, there is no reason not to post a couple of photos of the car
> itself.

There isn't and haven't been, that many classes where minis race, let
alone win championships, so that info alone would be enough to narrow it
down to at most a handful of possibilities. Therefore his claim that it
would identify him if he got more specific is weak. Of course he has no
choice but to go with that piss-weak excuse, because the reality is he
never won a championship, and naming one would open him up to definitive
proof that it's all bullshit on his part.

He hasn't just painted himself into a corner, he's put landmines in
under the carpet, so if he moves, he's a goner. Now he has to just
'accept' life in the corner, and suffer along with it.

--
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Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> The "oh shit I've been caught out" look...the one where you realise
> that you've been caught by your bullshit.

"Caught out" at what Oz? What is it that I've said to you on this subject
that you think you've somehow "proved" to be untrue?

All I've seen from you so far is to post a link to some obscure mention of a
"Mowog style" head, and then a homologation list showing a cast iron
crossflow head that looked very much like a Westlake casting, yet you're
carrying on as if you're holding a genuine "Mowog" stamped cast iron
crossflow head in your hand :)

You know that head you claimed actually existed, but haven't been able to
link to directly?

> Meanwhile you're building a trolley for your goalpost.

I've become quite convinced with this thread that your IQ is so low that
there's no way you could have ever qualified as a copper, and I've met some
pretty God-damned fucking *dumb* policemen.....

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Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> I know you don't fit much into a day...I was gone for 10.

We missed you, but suspected you'd disappear. Just like you do every other
time the heat in the kitchen gets a little warm.

> Oh and the Googling I really didn't need to, called in and saw an old
> motor racing friend in UK who just like you has a library on Mini
> memorabillia...he pointed me to the link.

Ah. So you flew all the way to England to look up an old friend who is an
"Expert", and that link showing some "homologation list" is the best you
could do in defending your claims that there was a factory cast iron "Mowog"
crossflow head made prior to the Arden head?

Jesus.... :)

> And Nod...what I used is of little consequence...

Whoa :) See that folks? That was the *almost* complete attempt to shift away
from his own personal account of his experiences and concentrate on
something completely irrelevant :)

Sorry to burst your bubble here Ozwald, but despite your irrelevant
ramblings what you used is the very topic of this thread coming into being,
and you've done *nothing* but try and move away from your original claims by
inventing completely irrelevant bullshit in a feeble attempt at avoiding any
detailed conversation about your own car and racing experiences. I mean, it
was *you*, after all, who first mentioned cast iron heads and went off into
some bizarre triad about them even though you never used one (according to
you) and the subject having nothing to do whatsoever with your own
experiences.

All of which, I might add, has been carefully crafted to keep focus away
from your own personal claims about racing minis and winning championships.

What class did you race in again Oz?

> You got firmly caught in the mire of your bluff and bullshit.

Did I?

Well, coat me in honey and throw me to the fucking Lesbians :)

> and unlike your accusations about me...You have been PROVEN to be full
> of shit!

Uh-huh.

Like I've said to you before a number of times now Oz. If you're considering
a career in law, I'd give some *serious* thought to something a little less
challenging as your idea of "proof" is ad extreme odds to that of the rest
of the world.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> What you've said is a number of things.
> They keep changing!

Feel free to show where :)

> Critical ones were that ST never built an 8 port CI head...they
> did....well, they had one cast.

So you claim, but you've yet to show that to anyone.

All I've ever said was that the only crossflow head shown in the ST catalogs
was the Arden alloy unit, and if such a cast iron head ever existed details
about it are non existant. You apparently seem to know all about it but
can't show anything relating to it directly.

> Second wsas that it was never offered by ST...It was and needed a C/
> part no. to be catalogued.

Oh. *Now* you're saying that it was *going* to be part of the catalog, yet
previously you claimed it was never offered in the catalog and only existed
for a very brief time before being replaced by the Arden head.

Presumably you remember saying this, or would you like me to remind you?

> Another variation on your theme is NOW, that it never appeared in an
> ST catalogue (goal posts where have you gone)....

I've said that from the beginning Oz, so I fail to see how me continuing to
say it now is a "variation".

> You're wrong....and without access to every ST booklet and price list,
> YOU REMAIN WRONG!

As I said to you some time ago now I have all the ST catalogs between 1967
ad 1971, and there is no cast iron crossflow head in any of them. If any did
appear it would have been after that time, and given that Leyland had taken
over in 1971 and significantly scaled down the "Special Tuning" side of
things from about the middle of 1971 it would seem unlikely as most of the
"serious" hard parts were on the decline before Leyland took over.

Of course, given that you claimed that the ffactory iron head existed only
briefly *before* the Arden head was offered as a ST part I wouldn't expect
it to be offered *after* the Arden head was discontinued. Still, if you have
information to the contrary, you're more than welcome to share it.

> Take your little diversion about the 8 port having a non std valve
> sequence.....

Do tell?

> Tell me Nod, what controls the valves?
> What makes you think that changing the number of ports in a head
> changes the valve sequence?

It doesn't specifically in and of itself.

> Yes Nod..it's the camshaft and the engine will run very happily with a
> 'normal' cam.

Will it now? And I suppose your engine ran just peachy with a normal A
series cam, right?

Here's the rub Oz.

The valve sequence doesn't *have* to be altered to make an 8 port head, but
it was on the Arden head as that's the way Jim Whithouse *made* it, and
that's precisely why Special Tuning had cams made specifically to suit the
head. I know this isn't registering for you, so I'll explain it even more
fully.

On a standard 5 port head, the inlet ports are siamesed which means the 4
inlet valves share a pair of ports, and to do so they need to be positioned
in a certain way in the head. As such, the valve arrangement on a standard 5
port head (from left to right) is ex-in-in-ex-ex-in-in-ex. Whitehouse
designed a cylinder head with a separate inlet and exhaust port for each
cylinder, and as such wasn't bound by any port sharing peculiarities that
limited the valves to any particular arrangement. As a result, he arranged
the valves (for whatever reason) differently to the regular 5 port with the
configuration being (again from left to right) in-ex-in-ex-in-ex-in-ex. What
that mean to you, me and the guy up the street was that if you fitted one of
these Arden heads to a standard engine and didn't change the factory
camshaft, then the cam timing would be incorrect for the head with number 1
and 4 inlet and exhaust valves running on the wrong lobes. The inlet valves
would be opening when the exhausts were supposed to be and visa versa.

You *had* to run a specific 8 port cam with the lobes positioned in sequence
to match the valve sequence in the head, and if you'd actually used an Arden
head as you claimed then you'd be *well* aware of this little "gotcha". The
fact that you aren't only confirms what we already know :)

Well done Oz. In your mad panic to dig yourself out of your hole with even
*more* imaginative bullshit you've managed to do nothing other than shoot
yourself right in the arse :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 9:01:59 PM9/29/09
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Sure Nod.....Just like the pics of my family in the snow...You know
the generic ones I just pinched from the net.

Maybe the couple I posted of the Dodge Magnum with the trim strips
missing...that weren't mine either..according to you and your clowns.

Sure Nod...Sure!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:53:34 GMT, John McKenzie
<jmac_me...@bigpond.com> wrote:


>
>Here is a tip Oz, you might actually get some friends one day if you
>stopped being such a wanker.

Jeez John...would you be my friend?

I really need a buffoon to play off!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:44:51 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:

>
><Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>news:6ev4c5llb99uldjm7...@4ax.com...
>
>> Hey Jace..not crowing that I've won anything.
>
>So, you're now saying that you *didn't* win any races in your split weber
>"all under a standard bonnet" Mini?

Nod...the word WAS championship.

Now where was that goalpost you just moved!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:52:08 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:

>
>"Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
>news:02d27088$0$22120$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>
>> If he has won a class in a particular vehicle and posted that he could be
>> easily identified so I don't blame him for not divulging such information,
>
>Agreed.
>
>I've told him before I don't care about who he is, I have no desire to ever
>know


Good for you Nod.....and as the great leader that you are, I'm sure
that you could command all your followers to be good little boys.

Sure Nod...Sure!

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:12:14 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:

>
><Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>news:hsv4c59i1ec5isn4r...@4ax.com...
>
>> I know you don't fit much into a day...I was gone for 10.
>
>We missed you, but suspected you'd disappear. Just like you do every other
>time the heat in the kitchen gets a little warm.
>

Yes of course you would....

Tell ya what, Next time I'm going on a holiday, I'll let you know in
advance.

Remember now...I don't want you starting in about me bragging about
having a holiday!

Next trip is in a week or so, to Melb and Hobart to visit friends.
I'll let you know when I confirm the dates..just in case you think I
don't care about your feelings and have left you.

Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry Nod,,,,but I NEVER said I had the bulge...I didn't need it,
> couldn't have one because the Mini Series wouldn't allow one.

Which series was that Oz?

> That was the whole point of using only one throat of each weber!

Yeah, I'll bet, but I still haven't worked out how cutting the *side* off
them made any difference to the length. Perhaps you'd like to share a photo
or two? :)

> How's the memory?

Mine's fine, but yours seems to have more holes than a chunk of Swiss
cheese. What was that class again? :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.


Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 9:16:22 PM9/29/09
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On that point Nod.....I'm off now.

Having a new SS exhaust system fitted to one of the cars.
Might be a little busy for a couple of days with that....Yes Nod..a
couple of days.

Miss me!

Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Sure Nod.....Just like the pics of my family in the snow...You know
> the generic ones I just pinched from the net.

They were well could have been pictures of your family Oz (I only ever saw
one), but the point at the time was that no one *but* you could possiby know
who they were, so it was a little baffling as to why you offered them up.

What what I recall, it was three people heavily dressed in snow gear
standing a *long* way from the lens. What that was supposed to "prove" to
anyone God only knows. It'd be no different to me taking a picture of myself
standing outside my house saying "This is me outside my palace". Unless you
know me, you'd have no idea if it was me or someone else.

> Maybe the couple I posted of the Dodge Magnum with the trim strips
> missing...that weren't mine either..according to you and your clowns.
>
> Sure Nod...Sure!

Maybe you could show a photo of your Lancia parked next to your supercharged
Mitsubishi, or a picture of your Mini engine showing your intricate manifold
and cut down carb arrangement. You know, something *detailed* that ties in
with some of your claims that isn't easily faked :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

Oz...@crackerbox-palace.com

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Sep 29, 2009, 9:32:44 PM9/29/09
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:59:19 +1000, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:

>
><Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>news:2425c5ds1mbtq6qrh...@4ax.com...
>
>> What you've said is a number of things.
>> They keep changing!
>
>Feel free to show where :)

Can't be bothered...much like you and your 380AWD story


>
>> Critical ones were that ST never built an 8 port CI head...they
>> did....well, they had one cast.
>
>So you claim, but you've yet to show that to anyone.

Ahhhh Nod...they couldn't homologate something they didn't build at
least 100 of!


>
>All I've ever said was that the only crossflow head shown in the ST catalogs
>was the Arden alloy unit, and if such a cast iron head ever existed details
>about it are non existant. You apparently seem to know all about it but
>can't show anything relating to it directly.
>
>> Second wsas that it was never offered by ST...It was and needed a C/
>> part no. to be catalogued.
>
>Oh. *Now* you're saying that it was *going* to be part of the catalog,

No...I'm not


>> You're wrong....and without access to every ST booklet and price list,
>> YOU REMAIN WRONG!
>
>As I said to you some time ago now I have all the ST catalogs between 1967
>ad 1971, and there is no cast iron crossflow head in any of them.

Ahhhhh PROVE IT...
While you're at it, maybe you could get a few copies of the ones for
UK, Canada, USA etc etc...and check ALL of them for heads.

BTW do your copies have Australia on them?
My one has!


>
>Of course, given that you claimed that the ffactory iron head existed only
>briefly *before* the Arden head was offered as a ST part I wouldn't expect
>it to be offered *after* the Arden head was discontinued. Still, if you have
>information to the contrary, you're more than welcome to share it.

Hey I said "briefly" and "before" didn't I...1970 was homologation
date IIRC


>
>> Take your little diversion about the 8 port having a non std valve
>> sequence.....
>
>Do tell?
>
>> Tell me Nod, what controls the valves?
>> What makes you think that changing the number of ports in a head
>> changes the valve sequence?
>
>It doesn't specifically in and of itself.
>
>> Yes Nod..it's the camshaft and the engine will run very happily with a
>> 'normal' cam.
>
>Will it now? And I suppose your engine ran just peachy with a normal A
>series cam, right?


Ahhh Nod, you've got me!
Damn and here I was forgetting one thing.
Glad you reminded me...........

Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Tell ya what, Next time I'm going on a holiday, I'll let you know in
> advance.

There's no need. We can tell :)

> Remember now...I don't want you starting in about me bragging about
> having a holiday!

Rest assured.

> Next trip is in a week or so, to Melb and Hobart to visit friends.
> I'll let you know when I confirm the dates..just in case you think I
> don't care about your feelings and have left you.

Nice.

Call into my place and bring your mini pictures with you. I give you my word
that if they're what you say they are I'll be on here within minutes making
a public apology.

That'll save you the trouble of scanning them :)

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Regards,
Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> On that point Nod.....I'm off now.

Good-o.

> Having a new SS exhaust system fitted to one of the cars.
> Might be a little busy for a couple of days with that....Yes Nod..a
> couple of days.

A couple of days for an exhaust system? Fuck me! No wonder you couldn't get
those Mikuni mixtures sorted :)

> Miss me!

Bye Oz. Mind you don't fall over that huge mound of bullshit you've left
behind :)

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Regards,
Noddy.


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You know Nod...I could....

jonz

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Noddy wrote:
> <Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> news:k9b5c5t87l84fprih...@4ax.com...
>
>> Sure Nod.....Just like the pics of my family in the snow...You know
>> the generic ones I just pinched from the net.
>
> They were well could have been pictures of your family Oz (I only ever saw
> one), but the point at the time was that no one *but* you could possiby know
> who they were, so it was a little baffling as to why you offered them up.
>
> What what I recall, it was three people heavily dressed in snow gear
> standing a *long* way from the lens. What that was supposed to "prove" to
> anyone God only knows. It'd be no different to me taking a picture of myself
> standing outside my house saying "This is me outside my palace". Unless you
> know me, you'd have no idea if it was me or someone else.
~~~~~~~~~~
i have this mental image of u........if i saw said pic., i would
know....heheheh..........

>
>> Maybe the couple I posted of the Dodge Magnum with the trim strips
>> missing...that weren't mine either..according to you and your clowns.
>>
>> Sure Nod...Sure!
>
> Maybe you could show a photo of your Lancia parked next to your supercharged
> Mitsubishi, or a picture of your Mini engine showing your intricate manifold
> and cut down carb arrangement. You know, something *detailed* that ties in
> with some of your claims that isn't easily faked :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>
>


--
jonz
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
- boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene
Spafford,1992

Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> Can't be bothered...much like you and your 380AWD story

You "can't be bothered", yet you have enough enery to continue with your
bullshit and reply anyway?

That's just another way of saying "You're right, you never said that", isn't
it?

> Ahhhh Nod...they couldn't homologate something they didn't build at
> least 100 of!

Correction Oz, they couldn't homologate something that *someone* didn't
build at least 100 of.

I'm sorry that you fail to realise this point Oz, but in citing that
homologation list earlier all you managed to show was that a cast iron
Crossflow head existed and BMC planned to use one, and I never said such a
thing never happened. In fact, I said in another post that they did indeed
use some iron heads on their works cars. What you *didn't* show was who made
it, and assuming that because it carried a BMC part number that they had
anything to do with it's manufacture is stretching things even for you. The
Arden head carried a BMC part number, was available as an "official" BMC
part through their "Special Tuning" department and was "homologated" for
racing, but BMC had absolutely fuck nothing to do with it's manufacture.

Have a peek at this link here:
http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/homologation_papers.htm

It's a link to a site offering a few pages of Mini parts homologation lists
for a few different models, and if you scroll down to the second item from
the bottom you'll see it's a copy of the same page from the PDF you linked
to earlier claiming "proof" of the existence of a genuine BMC made cast iron
crossflow head. You'll notice that hey show this image as proof of the
homologation of the *Weslake* head as submitted to the FIA in April 1970.

In case you're wondering, Weslake was a private company who made their own
components, much like Jim Whitehouse did at Arden Engineering. Clearly, BMC
had nothing whatsoever to do with the manufacture of the Weslake head, and
you're citing of this particular document as "proof" that they "made a cast
iron head" proves nothing other than that the works cars used speciality
parts made by other people which we already knew.

That pretty much sinks your boat well and truly for me :)

>>Oh. *Now* you're saying that it was *going* to be part of the catalog,
>
> No...I'm not

So what exactly *are* you saying? As in right at this moment? You seem to be
*way* out of your depth here.....

> Ahhhhh PROVE IT...

I've given you the part numbers for the head assembly and various components
relating to the Arden head. If they offered a cast iron head I'd be only too
happy to supply those numbers as well, as it's no skin off my knob if they
did or didn't. To be perfectly honest I couldn't care less if BMC or anyone
else made one, as I never used one and apparently neither did you, so why
you're making all this fuss over such an irrelevant point is a mystery to
me. But anyway, you mentioned that such a head *was* made by BMC and was
stamped with the "Mowog" foundry mark, but then later claimed that it "never
appeared" in any special tuning catalog and was only ever available in
limited numbers and for a very short time. Presumably, you've now shifted
the complete 180 degrees and are now claiming the exact opposite?

I mean, these are *your* words I'm quoting here Oz. I'm not making this shit
up, but I don't think that holds true on both sides of the fence.

> While you're at it, maybe you could get a few copies of the ones for
> UK, Canada, USA etc etc...and check ALL of them for heads.

If you've got a link to a US specific special tuning catalog I'd be
genuinely delighted to see it.

> BTW do your copies have Australia on them?
> My one has!

I've mentioned to you before Oz (Boy your memory is tragically bad) that I
have hard copies of *both* the English and Australian versions of the
Special Tuning catalogs for the years 1967 to 1971 (actually, the last
English one I have is for December 1971, but the last Australian one is
dated June 1972 with both being branded "Leyland"). The English copy varies
quite a bit through that period with parts appearing and disappearing as the
demand/stocks change, but the Australian catalog remains remarkably
unchanged through those years.

The English catalog offered a *far* vider variety of hard parts than the
Australian one ever did, and to the point of there not being any cylinder
heads listed in the Australian catalog at *all*. Not just crossflows, but no
cylinder heads *period*. By coparison, the Australian catalog was more like
an "accessory" list rather than a dedicated hard parts list.

> Hey I said "briefly" and "before" didn't I...1970 was homologation
> date IIRC

It was for 1970, sure, but it would be more than a little odd that they'd be
attempting to homologate a head that was replaced by the Arden head that was
homologated 2 years earlier wouldn't you think?

> Ahhh Nod, you've got me!
> Damn and here I was forgetting one thing.
> Glad you reminded me...........

You mean drawing your attention to the fact that you're totally unfamiliar
with them, don't you? :)

Grow up and leave it alone Oz. It's obvious to *anyone* that you're
"experiences" with Mini's nothing but fiction.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

Noddy

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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> i have this mental image of u........if i saw said pic., i would
> know....heheheh..........

I'm sure you *think* you would know, but then I'm also sure you wouldn't
know if I was up you until I spat on your back and asked for my 20 bucks.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


Noddy

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<Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
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> You know Nod...I could....

I don't know any such thing Oz, and I suspect that if you indeed could you
would have done so *long* before now :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.


the_dawggie

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On Sep 30, 8:33 am, "Clocky" <nice...@migo.com> wrote:
> Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:25:06 +1000, "Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote:
>
> >> <Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> >>news:rls3c5htkfvitpbja...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:22 +0800, "Clocky" <nice...@migo.com>

> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> It would really help your cause if you posted some pics of your
> >>>> setup, surely you have one or two you can show?
>
> >>> Nah...I've clearly shown that Nod despite all his Googling and
> >>> bluff, had absolutely no clue about a cast iron head.
>
> >>> Yet he managaed to convince his follower that he knew it all.
>
> >>> Ya see Clocky...I was there...He got lost in the Google!
>
> >> If as you are apparently crowing about that you've 'won',...why not
> >> show the pictures of your Mini and Its underbonnet shot, plus the
> >> class you raced the car in?
>
> >> Jason
>
> > Hey Jace..not crowing that I've won anything.
>
> > Just showing again that Nod is a know nothing expert on everything.
>
> > And pictures?
> > Nah...can't be bothered searching them out and scanning
> > them...besides...I'd then be accused of bragging...
>
> That's weak Oz, because you and me both know that you would like nothing
> more then to rub Noddy's nose in it...

But Node is _ALWAYS_ right because he says so.

--
Kipland.

jonz

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
uh-uh,i`d smell you from a mile off.............

Simon Clarkson

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>
> Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
> I do admire your loyalty though.

>
>
>
>
> OzOne of the three twins
>
> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
--

What does Bwaaaha etc etc mean? Sounds very much like a childish rant to me
OzOne. I thought you put up a fairly logical case until I read that. Keep
your argument on track and leave those silly rants alone.


Dr S J Clarkson

"Eat healthy
exercise healthy
stay healthy"


Jason James

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"Simon Clarkson" <simon.c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
>> I do admire your loyalty though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OzOne of the three twins
>>
>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
> --
>
> What does Bwaaaha etc etc mean? Sounds very much like a childish rant to
> me OzOne. I thought you put up a fairly logical case until I read that.
> Keep your argument on track and leave those silly rants alone.

It is a moron's way of indicating mirth.....and I love the original KFC. Too
greasy today dont you think?

Jason


Noddy

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"Simon Clarkson" <simon.c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What does Bwaaaha etc etc mean? Sounds very much like a childish rant to

> me OzOne. I thought you put up a fairly logical case until I read that.
> Keep your argument on track and leave those silly rants alone.

Fuck off Woger.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


the_dawggie

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On Sep 30, 4:03 pm, "Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote:
> "Simon Clarkson" <simon.clark...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Yep, certainly is, and gives you man boobs. I prefer a Maccas
Grand Angus.

--
Kipland.

jonz

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
macca`s, kfc.....will both contribute to yer demise...rather stay
hungry. and kark it thru cirrhosis....what say u al?
>
> --
> Kipland.

the_dawggie

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Maccas is not for every day - KFC will kill a person. That Morgan
Spurlock
show "Supersize Me" seemed to make Make Maccas think a bit.

My cirrhosis likely won't kill me - been dead twice over internal
bleeding.
My liver just gives it to my kidneys now.

--
Kipland.

jonz

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Jason James wrote:
> "Simon Clarkson" <simon.c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8BBwm.44114$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
>>> I do admire your loyalty though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OzOne of the three twins
>>>
>>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>> --
>>
>> What does Bwaaaha etc etc mean? Sounds very much like a childish rant to
>> me OzOne. I thought you put up a fairly logical case until I read that.
>> Keep your argument on track and leave those silly rants alone.
>
> It is a moron's way of indicating mirth.....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ok, well here`s some more ahh, moronics?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA :)

If anyone's doing any "dancing" around here pal, it ain't me :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.
~~~~~~~~~~~
from a poast on the pommie car
thread......whoodathunkit?......<chuckle>

and I love the original KFC. Too
> greasy today dont you think?
>
> Jason
>
>

Jason James

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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the_dawggie wrote:
> On Sep 30, 4:03�pm, "Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote:
>> "Simon Clarkson" <simon.clark...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8BBwm.44114$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
>>>> I do admire your loyalty though.
>>>> OzOne of the three twins
>>>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>>> --
>>> What does Bwaaaha etc etc mean? Sounds very much like a childish rant to
>>> me OzOne. I thought you put up a fairly logical case until I read that.
>>> Keep your argument on track and leave those silly rants alone.
>> It is a moron's way of indicating mirth.....and I love the original KFC.
>> Too
>> greasy today dont you think?
>>
>> Jason
>
> Yep, certainly is, and gives you man boobs. I prefer a Maccas
> Grand Angus.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
macca`s, kfc.....will both contribute to yer demise...rather stay
hungry. and kark it thru cirrhosis....what say u al?

We already know you imbibe,...just check your later in the day posts.

Jason


Jason James

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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"Swinging on the gallow's pole",....guess which group I'm youtubing?

Jason


jonz

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Jason James wrote:
> "jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
> news:4ac2fcf3$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> the_dawggie wrote:
>> On Sep 30, 4:03Üpm, "Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote:
>>> "Simon Clarkson" <simon.clark...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:8BBwm.44114$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaha!
>>>>> I do admire your loyalty though.
>>>>> OzOne of the three twins
>>>>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>>>> --
>>>> What does Bwaaaha etc etc mean? Sounds very much like a childish rant to
>>>> me OzOne. I thought you put up a fairly logical case until I read that.
>>>> Keep your argument on track and leave those silly rants alone.
>>> It is a moron's way of indicating mirth.....and I love the original KFC.
>>> Too
>>> greasy today dont you think?
>>>
>>> Jason
>> Yep, certainly is, and gives you man boobs. I prefer a Maccas
>> Grand Angus.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> macca`s, kfc.....will both contribute to yer demise...rather stay
> hungry. and kark it thru cirrhosis....what say u al?
>
> We already know you imbibe,...just check your later in the day posts.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PKB jason....
>
> Jason

jonz

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
don`t have to guess.....significance???????.......

Jason James

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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That is just the point.....

Jason


jonz

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~~~~~~~~~~~
whatever yer tokin' keep it to yerself...but then yer welsh...no helping
the helpless.

Jason James

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message
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Tell me Jonz,..do you spell phonetically on purpose? Or did you just not go
to school? Enquiring minds want to know.

Jason


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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
they may well do.................but "what the fuck has that to do with
you".......
Message has been deleted

Noddy

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"Blue Heeler" <wo...@bark.net> wrote in message
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> I know I should be holding a sign that says "Fuck you OzLiar" but it
> just didn't occur to me at the time.

ROTFL :)

Smarten things up a bit, will you? :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.


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jonz

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Noddy wrote:
> <Oz...@Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> news:hss3c5ht7e2agufo6...@4ax.com...
>
>> You're in the corner Nod...I was there, I handed you the brush.
>>
>> Just took a while to find the right paint!
>
> Lol :)
>
> You remind me of a weakling with a blood nose laughing at the school bully
> because he hurt his hand on your face :)
~~~~~
hmmmm, reckon u would be *very* cognisant with that.....
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

Jason James

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"jonz" <fj...@diesel.com> wrote in message news:4ac3...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Just a question,..a bit sensitive there? No need,..there are adult education
facilities etc.

Jason


John_H

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Clocky wrote:
>
>If he has won a class in a particular vehicle and posted that he could be
>easily identified so I don't blame him for not divulging such information,
>however, there is no reason not to post a couple of photos of the car
>itself.

If all he's claimed in the past were the truth he'd have been
identified long ago. For example... how many Lancia 037's do you
think there are in Australia (not including electric scale models)?

So who is he then?

And here's another conundrum for you....

Consider a 4 cylinder, 8-port cross flow head. According to my
reckoning the valve configuration will be... EI EI EI EI

So, how do you make that valve layout fit in with a five port head?

Which tells you what about the camshaft?

--
John H

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