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Damien

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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Hi All,

x-posted to aus.radio.amateur.misc, aus.cars.offroad

I noticed there's been several of these advertised over the last few
weeks at pretty good prices. Despite a very extensive web search and
usenet search I found no opinions except that the display often fails.
Any opinions in regard to competition such as GME TX* and Uniden UH* in
terms of features and reliability?

All the best,

Damien

Steve

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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Damien wrote:

Hi Damian.
Personally I dont know about the FM620 - if its a 40 channel job its just a
regular CB. I am quite a fan of the phillips radios however and I use a
PRM8030 (I know this is going to piss off the amatures out here but I dont
care) primarily because of the extra power output, other features are
remote head and self tuning. I would look into a commecial grade radio and
having it programmed for the CB frequencies (this is definitely pissing of
the amatures) and have police frequencies in there too (receive only of
course) If your friends also have a juicy radio such as this you can have
your own private channels put in so that you dont get anoyed with all the
idiots out there. A gentleman by the name of Lee Norrish 0419 140 020
handles the communications for the racing cars out at eastern creek and for
bathurst 1000 race, he can tell you anything you need to know about any
radio for communications out there and he can even sell you a good set at a
reasonable price. I suggest you dont buy anything before at least speaking
with him, there is nothing more anoying than going out on a track with some
other cars and seeing somone elses rig which absolutley kicks ass and then
finding out they paid the same ammount as you did.

Have fun and enjoy
10-4 rubber ducky.
steve.

Matt

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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the FM620 is an older radio - must be in the vicinity of ten or more years
old. I am not overly fussed with the radio and much prefer the
ElectrophoneTX4000 with it's additional features. It is very easy to use
and offers some good features. For a CB it is a radio with very good
receive and nice audio, the only problem I ave with it is that the
microphone insert picks up to much noise when I am mobile (OK maybe I should
wind my window up). With 27 MHz radios I really like the unidens but I not
at all impressed with what is in my opinion some very crappy attempts at
making UHF CB radios. Hope that this helps you with your decision on what
you purchase

--


Matt

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Gonz

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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this is the follow up to the FM320, basicaly the same style radio with a few
small changes..

looks old, works well..

If you were looking at buying one I would look at paying 100-150 tops

andrew barnes

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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So what type of radio is the best for calling in the troops if you get in
the shit, say........over the hills and far away , about 200 k's nth west of
Townsville between Greenvale and Ingham, for example? I know that there's
repeater stations on top of the hills, and the SES use them.......
Barnsey

Matt

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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If the repeater is a UHF CB one (and I cannot remember any being in that
area - been a couple of years since I was there though) and not an SES
repeater then you should be able to access it with most setups - although
there are to many factors to discuss covering accessing repeaters. The
difference between the different radios is not all that much, the antenna is
the critical component of the system. If the antenna is useless then it
doesn't matter what your radio is, your system will work pox.
If you want a radio to rely on in damn near all parts of the country then
you are looking at spending a lot more money (about 3 grand for a new one)
and getting a RFDS radio. It is a lot of money but the performance is way
superior in terms of range (depending on different factors - but good
coverage of Australia) and reliability in case of needing help if you break
down in remote areas. I could write all night on this topic and still not
cover it but I hope there is enough in this to help you.


Cheers


Matt

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Peter Davidson

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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Be careful of using commercial radios for UHF CB. Philips sets are
programmed to reduce the TX output power to 5 W when a CB channel is in
operation and are thus perfectly legal on CB frequencies. Some people
modify them by removing the output power regulation - this causes them
to run with OP in excess of 25 W on all frequencies and causes
overheating of the OP stages. It is also an offence against the Radio
Communications Act and is likely to provide a government holiday (max
penalty two years!!) There is no advantage with an overpowered output -
the other party might be able to hear you a little further but you will
not here them.

Many of the dedicated UHF CB sets have as good a performance as the
commercial two way radios.

regards
PeterD

Steve wrote:


>
> Damien wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > x-posted to aus.radio.amateur.misc, aus.cars.offroad
> >
> > I noticed there's been several of these advertised over the last few
> > weeks at pretty good prices. Despite a very extensive web search and
> > usenet search I found no opinions except that the display often fails.
> > Any opinions in regard to competition such as GME TX* and Uniden UH* in
> > terms of features and reliability?
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Damien
>

Damien

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Hi Steve,

I only really need it for car to car communication when offroading. If
I had that much money I'd probably spend it on a rear locker, new tyres
or other car-related upgrades. At the moment I use a Uniden PC122 AM CB
which I'm perfectly happy with. Unfortunately, the club I'm joining
uses UHF. I have a budget of $100-$200; what would you recommend in
that S/H price range?

All the best,

Damien

Damien

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Thanks Matt (and Gonz above),

I currently have a Uniden PC122 AM set and am happy with it. What would
you recommend in the $100-$200 second hand UHF CB market. Someone
emailed me with a recommendation on Uniden UH-011 but from what I've
seen everyone seems to favour the GME (Electrophones). The 4wd mags are
very careful not to "brand judge" in their reviews but end up fitting
GME's in their "how-to" articles (probably get them free, useless
bastards).

For example, here are some current s/h prices from the trading post:
GME TX4200: $400
GME TX4000: $290
GME TX3200: $320
GME TX470: $180
Philips FM620: $140
Philips FM92: $320
UHF 12DB High Gain base station???: $100
Uniden UHF 40 ch: $150 (very useful)
Uniden UH099: $320

You can see why the philips FM620 appeals if it's any good at all. What
should I look for in the second hand market at up to $200 with antenna?

Thanks again,

Damien

Matt wrote:
>
> the FM620 is an older radio - must be in the vicinity of ten or more years
> old. I am not overly fussed with the radio and much prefer the
> ElectrophoneTX4000 with it's additional features. It is very easy to use
> and offers some good features. For a CB it is a radio with very good
> receive and nice audio, the only problem I ave with it is that the
> microphone insert picks up to much noise when I am mobile (OK maybe I should
> wind my window up). With 27 MHz radios I really like the unidens but I not
> at all impressed with what is in my opinion some very crappy attempts at
> making UHF CB radios. Hope that this helps you with your decision on what
> you purchase
>
> --
>
> Matt

<snip>

David and Cherie

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Well Barnsey, as the SES uses UHF radios it would be worth while finding out
if the repeaters are UHF CB or not.
The SES although on UHF they operate on a different frequency.
Worth while also mentioning that the repeater system although being very
usefull is not the be all and end all of communications.
In my association with the emergency services and motorsport, I have found
that no matter what type of system I have in my vehicles I also carry a
handheld so as if the car stops I can walk to the top of the hill to access
the repeater etc etc.
Also carry a spare antenna, 1/4 wave would do just as a back up in case the
original gets snapped off when the car rolls or something.
Dave,
VK6KDS
Western Radio 513
CAMS Official E4, O4, C4, U4, T4, F4.

Steve

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Peter Davidson wrote:

> Be careful of using commercial radios for UHF CB. Philips sets are
> programmed to reduce the TX output power to 5 W when a CB channel is in
> operation and are thus perfectly legal on CB frequencies.

Keyword here is *programmed

> Some people
> modify them by removing the output power regulation

Never heard of it myself I was under the impression that the power output was
controlled by the software.

> - this causes them
> to run with OP in excess of 25 W on all frequencies and causes
> overheating of the OP stages.

what is OP - the final amp?

> It is also an offence against the Radio
> Communications Act and is likely to provide a government holiday (max
> penalty two years!!)

Personally I have never heard of anyone being charged let alone fined for
excessive power output - but I guess I dont know everyone.

> There is no advantage with an overpowered output -

I beg to differ, extra power output can be the difference between getting into a
repeater that you can hear but cant reach on a measly 5watts.

>
> the other party might be able to hear you a little further but you will
> not here them.

This can happen.

>
>
> Many of the dedicated UHF CB sets have as good a performance as the
> commercial two way radios.

How about an example of a CB radio as good as say even a sintrex - which I would
say is pretty crappy for a commercial rig.


Ralph J. Giles

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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The Philips FM620 is a dedicated UHF CB transceiver sold by Philips and to
my knowledge cannot be modified to 25watts output like the Philips FM900
series can, which is a commercial w1/w2 band uhf transceiver and not a
dedicated UHF transceiver. So he never has been talking about other than a
dedicated UHF CB tranmsceiver.
Peter Davidson <pet...@pcug.org.au> wrote in message
news:3908019C...@pcug.org.au...

> Be careful of using commercial radios for UHF CB. Philips sets are
> programmed to reduce the TX output power to 5 W when a CB channel is in
> operation and are thus perfectly legal on CB frequencies. Some people
> modify them by removing the output power regulation - this causes them

> to run with OP in excess of 25 W on all frequencies and causes
> overheating of the OP stages. It is also an offence against the Radio

> Communications Act and is likely to provide a government holiday (max
> penalty two years!!) There is no advantage with an overpowered output -

> the other party might be able to hear you a little further but you will
> not here them.
>
> Many of the dedicated UHF CB sets have as good a performance as the
> commercial two way radios.
>
> regards
> PeterD

Matt

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Apr 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/29/00
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Responses below - snipped as necessary

Matt

>
> For example, here are some current s/h prices from the trading post:
> GME TX4200: $400

Good radio - but this one is badly overpriced for a secondhand radio - from
memory my one cost about $440. The fella selling this one has to be on
drugs to be asking for that price!!

> GME TX4000: $290
Good radio - more reasonably priced

> GME TX3200: $320
Haven't had much to do with this model, but considering they sell for about
$350 this is way overpriced for a secondhand model.

> GME TX470: $180
don't waste your time with this one

> Philips FM620: $140
nice price but you pay for what you get

> Philips FM92: $320
commercial radio programmed for CB. Usually about 25 watts output, they are
a good radio but there are drawbacks as have been mentioned in other posts.
Probably not what you want.

> UHF 12DB High Gain base station???: $100

Not a radio - it is an antenna about 5 metres long - for base use obviously

> Uniden UHF 40 ch: $150 (very useful)

hmm, nice model description - could be anything - 27 megs or UHF

> Uniden UH099: $320
Overpriced for an inferior radio.

Unlike 27 MHz CB's UHF radios are more expensive - a much smaller market -
only Aust and I believe NZ so you will pay more, both for a new one and a
seconhand one. Don't touch the Electrophone TX470 or the TX472, they are
both old and very very deaf, I had a 472 about ten years ago and it was with
the greatest joy that I got rid of it.

>
> You can see why the philips FM620 appeals if it's any good at all. What
> should I look for in the second hand market at up to $200 with antenna?
>

Like I said up the page a bit, you pay for what you get, the FM620 at $140
sounds nice but I would be suspicious of a UHF CB going this cheap - the
previous owner may well have had problems with it and is offloading it. The
benefits of the TX 4000 and TX 4200 radios are many, including the ability
to selcall other people (antisocial but effective if you don't want to
listen to other people all the time). I like my 4200 and whilst I would
like more power a decent antenna certainly makes up for it.
I have a Col 6 (6 Db gain antenna - about 6 foot long) which mounts on my
bullbar and it is an excellent antenna, the major drawback is that this
antenna is easy to break when you are in dense brush (particularly painful
given that it retails for between $160-$200). In this situation (and in the
city) I normally remove it and switch to a quarter wave antenna, it is
nowhere as effective but stops my pocket being hurt to much. There are a
variety of good antennas around, for your uses I reckon a good choice is a
4.5 Db gain antenna. They are made in several different configurations, the
mosts common are ones that are metal only (no fibreglass core) and have a
coil in the antenna about one third of the way up it. They offer a
reasonable performance and are damn near indestructible - I haven't even
come near breaking one yet, and they are reasonably cheap - I think I have
seen them from about $20 upwards.
One option would be to have a look at the trading post online, that way you
can search the country with all of the various trading posts, you will find
particularly with the Melbourne edition good priced radios and a large
variety. Don't despair if you find nothing in the first week, just keep on
looking, sooner or later you will have success. If you have any other
questions please feel free to email me - just remove the nospam.

Peter Davidson

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"I am quite a fan of the phillips radios however and I use a
PRM8030 (I know this is going to piss off the amatures out here but I
dont
care) primarily because of the extra power output, other features are
remote head and self tuning" - This quote is definitely saying he is
using Steve is using a commercial radio programmed to UHF CB channels
and has possibly been modified to run with the OP power regulation
disabled.

It is quite legal to use commercial two way radios on the CB band
providing the radios are built so that the OP power is limited to 5 W
when one of these channels is in use (all Philips radios are.) Radios
built to the required standard are capable of complying to the standard
for UHF CB radio sets. Oh and by the way Steve the SMA have taken
action against users of overpowered radios - I know. They have also
taken action against those who use unlicensed "private channels". Note
the quote:


> > > If your friends also have a juicy radio such as this you can
> have
> > > your own private channels put in so that you dont get anoyed with all
> the
> > > idiots out there.

regards
PeterD

Tim

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Apr 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/29/00
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Peter Davidson wrote:
>
> "I am quite a fan of the phillips radios however and I use a
> PRM8030 (I know this is going to piss off the amatures out here but I
> dont
> care)

Why would the fact you like Philips radios "piss off amateurs" ? Philips
are a commercial radio, apart from being cheap VHF & UHF radios, the
Amateurs have Icom, Yeasu, Kenwood and the Alino radio companies, to
name a few.. Just a pity Philips radio's suffer from instable
VCO's...... Hmm my nice little Icom IC2WA handheld covers the UHF cb
range as well as the allocated amateur bands in the VHF/UHF range. Oh
and that has 5 watts output for under $300 on the 2nd hand market.

<SNIP>


> It is quite legal to use commercial two way radios on the CB band
> providing the radios are built so that the OP power is limited to 5 W
> when one of these channels is in use (all Philips radios are.) Radios
> built to the required standard are capable of complying to the standard
> for UHF CB radio sets. Oh and by the way Steve the SMA have taken
> action against users of overpowered radios - I know.

How much you do know is questionable, seeing as the SMA NO LONGER EXIST
!!!!!!
They were replaced by the ACA (Australian Communications Authority)

>They have also
> taken action against those who use unlicensed "private channels". Note
> the quote:
> > > > If your friends also have a juicy radio such as this you can
> > have
> > > > your own private channels put in so that you dont get anoyed with all
> > the
> > > > idiots out there.
>

<SNIP>

If you are looking into a UHF radio consider that there is no longer a
need to approach the ACA for a licence for such a radio as they are
covered by a Class Licence. If you are interested in Philips radios I
know of a local source here in Perth that can help you out, like Philips
FM900 remote units for LESS that $200 which would include shipping to
your door, where ever you are in Australia. For details just email me
direct.

My 2cents worth.

Tim.

mike

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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If anyone pays more than $120 for a fm620 then i would say it is too
expensive. I had one for some time and it worked well. They do not like to
be modified like i found out. A friend who borrowed mine decided to modify
it to 7watts by turning up the pots inside. It lasted for about 3 months
then it simply died in transmit. I could not get the part for it so i gave
it away as a listening set.
Don't play with it if you get one.

Look in the second hand shops and cash converter shops. I have picked up
uhf sets for less than $50 on 2 accasions. They simple thought they were am
27mhz radios.
I now run commercial grade radios for uhf, but then i also run different
freqs other then cd band.
Good luck hunting down a good cb. Most of them are ok as long as they have
not been tampered with.

cheers Mike vk4vzk


Graeme Willox

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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Damien wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> x-posted to aus.radio.amateur.misc, aus.cars.offroad
>
> I noticed there's been several of these advertised over the last few
> weeks at pretty good prices. Despite a very extensive web search and
> usenet search I found no opinions except that the display often fails.
> Any opinions in regard to competition such as GME TX* and Uniden UH* in
> terms of features and reliability?
>
> All the best,
>
> Damien

I think they're a good, sound, basic radio. They have repeater capability
and a fairly basic scanning mode.

They are a lightweight radio.

I don't know the exact timeframe, but I don't think they've been made for a
while.

Kev

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May 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/1/00
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The GME TX4000 and TX4200 are good radios
they are also available as a remote head unit
(the GME TX3400 is also a remote radio)
and have the speaker mounted in the front panel
I think also the Uniden UH100 has this feature
much better for mounting the radio in or under the dash
and no need for an extension speaker


>
> It is quite legal to use commercial two way radios on the CB band
> providing the radios are built so that the OP power is limited to 5 W

UMMMM
if you read the regulations for CB you will find that it is not legal to
use these radios on CB, even at 5watts
because they are not type approved for CB as they are capable of
transmitting outside the UHF CB band
In fact it is illegal for an Amateur operator to use Amateur gear on UHF
or HF CB also

But
if you use them properly
and don't carry on like a goose annoying everyone
then who's gonna know or care
BTW I use a Philips FM92 remote
anyone interested in buying a Tait T700 16 channel VHF programmed for
VHF marine band
they are remote radios??


> when one of these channels is in use (all Philips radios are.) Radios
> built to the required standard are capable of complying to the standard
> for UHF CB radio sets. Oh and by the way Steve the SMA have taken

> action against users of overpowered radios - I know. They have also


> taken action against those who use unlicensed "private channels". Note
> the quote:
> > > > If your friends also have a juicy radio such as this you can
> > have
> > > > your own private channels put in so that you dont get anoyed with all
> > the idiots out there.

I'm sure a commecial user will be very impressed when someone sarts
using the freq
they pay big money to use
you may find your self in deep sh!t quite fast

Kev

Glen O'Riley

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They are actually a very good radio, I started off with one of them.
Unfortunately they are slightly deaf (which can be fixed) but apart from the
different options, there is minimal (if any) difference in transmit and
receive to a Uniden UH-100 which is a well overpriced shithouse radio. I
only wish I had have brought a Kenwood instead. I did however have a FM92
and it wasn't worth the case it was in. The VCOs fall over all the time
apparently in them. My 620 is extremely light, I have had it for over
18months and in that time it has had a hell of a belting including being
dropped a number of times and everything (including the display) still
works. Overall, I would still pay up to $150 for one. The equivelant in it's
time would be the Uniden UH007 which is not even any good for an anchor but
some people like them and the TX472/TX472s. The TX472 is similar but without
the scan facilities but the scanning version has better scanning than the
Phillips considering that it has programmable scan. The 620 has scanning but
is either All 8 repeater channels or all 40 standard channels with or
without priority channel. I would not pay over $150 for one though. When and
if you do get one, turn the FM deviation so that there is more audio to the
signal, that is the only thing that mine was laking when I got it.

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sg1

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Tim wrote:

> Peter Davidson wrote:
> >
> > "I am quite a fan of the phillips radios however and I use a
> > PRM8030 (I know this is going to piss off the amatures out here but I
> > dont
> > care)
>
> Why would the fact you like Philips radios "piss off amateurs" ?

I should have been more specific, I was referring to the *extra power output.
Let me explain why.

9 years ago a handful of amateurs developed a gripe against the regulars on
476.425 sydney. This was becuase they were using the CB repeater and told to "go
elsewhere" (in not so friendly terms) by the regular users who didnt like the
amateurs using CB frequencies when they had many others to choose from. Then
began the power struggle, several users who absolutely (powerhouse) mudded
everyone got in over them because of several reasons, one being co-phased beams
but mainly power output. Everyone was pretty egotestical at the time and they
were bragging bout how much power they were transmitting and one of the amatures
recorded all transmissions on the channel to report back to DOTAC as it was known
then. The recordings were secret, so what happened was the regulars began to
spruce up stories and make up crimes - the channel became chaotic to say the
least. Carriers were dropped for days at a time whilst the imaginary crimes
became more and more exotic. Eventually when enough intelligence was gathered
the crackdown commenced. What eventuated were raids on the base stations.
Primarily the ones with the greatest imagination for creating the most tempting
bust - such as hundreds of stolen radios, illegal brothels, drug trafficking and
even prohibited weapons (I dont think they believed the murders and conspiracies
to nuke parliament house).
Forgive me for getting carried away back to my cheeky days, but seriously - many
advancements have been made in communications because of amateurs doing their own
research. My hat off to them.

> Philips
> are a commercial radio, apart from being cheap VHF & UHF radios, the
> Amateurs have Icom, Yeasu, Kenwood and the Alino radio companies, to
> name a few.. Just a pity Philips radio's suffer from instable
> VCO's...... Hmm my nice little Icom IC2WA handheld covers the UHF cb
> range as well as the allocated amateur bands in the VHF/UHF range. Oh
> and that has 5 watts output for under $300 on the 2nd hand market.
>
> <SNIP>

> > It is quite legal to use commercial two way radios on the CB band
> > providing the radios are built so that the OP power is limited to 5 W

> > when one of these channels is in use (all Philips radios are.) Radios
> > built to the required standard are capable of complying to the standard
> > for UHF CB radio sets. Oh and by the way Steve the SMA have taken
> > action against users of overpowered radios - I know.
>

> How much you do know is questionable, seeing as the SMA NO LONGER EXIST
> !!!!!!
> They were replaced by the ACA (Australian Communications Authority)
>
>

> >They have also
> > taken action against those who use unlicensed "private channels". Note
> > the quote:
> > > > > If your friends also have a juicy radio such as this you can
> > > have
> > > > > your own private channels put in so that you dont get anoyed with all
> > > the
> > > > > idiots out there.
> >

> <SNIP>
>
> If you are looking into a UHF radio consider that there is no longer a
> need to approach the ACA for a licence for such a radio as they are
> covered by a Class Licence. If you are interested in Philips radios I
> know of a local source here in Perth that can help you out, like Philips
> FM900 remote units for LESS that $200 which would include shipping to
> your door, where ever you are in Australia. For details just email me
> direct.
>
> My 2cents worth.
>
> Tim.

My apologies to the users of the aus.cars.offoad n/g as this is getting really
OT.
but is has been fun to remenis.

Regards,

Steve.


sg1

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Peter Davidson wrote:

> "I am quite a fan of the phillips radios however and I use a
> PRM8030 (I know this is going to piss off the amatures out here but I
> dont

> care) primarily because of the extra power output, other features are
> remote head and self tuning" - This quote is definitely saying he is
> using Steve is using a commercial radio programmed to UHF CB channels
> and has possibly been modified to run with the OP power regulation
> disabled.

Shut up peter and stop analyzing what I'm saying you idiot.

>
>
> It is quite legal to use commercial two way radios on the CB band
> providing the radios are built so that the OP power is limited to 5 W
> when one of these channels is in use (all Philips radios are.) Radios
> built to the required standard are capable of complying to the standard
> for UHF CB radio sets. Oh and by the way Steve the SMA have taken
> action against users of overpowered radios - I know.

Well go and report me - everything is hearsay, in legal terms "bullshit"

> They have also
> taken action against those who use unlicensed "private channels". Note
> the quote:
> > > > If your friends also have a juicy radio such as this you can
> > have
> > > > your own private channels put in so that you dont get anoyed with all
> > the
> > > > idiots out there.
>

> regards
> PeterD

<sniping the irrelevant data>

BTW learn to post a reply.

steve.


sg1

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May 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/2/00
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>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I only really need it for car to car communication when offroading. If
> I had that much money I'd probably spend it on a rear locker, new tyres
> or other car-related upgrades. At the moment I use a Uniden PC122 AM CB
> which I'm perfectly happy with. Unfortunately, the club I'm joining
> uses UHF. I have a budget of $100-$200; what would you recommend in
> that S/H price range?
>
> All the best,
>
> Damien

Honestly I dont know all that much about the regular CB's, I stopped using them
years ago.
From what I know about the regular CB's I think Matt is pretty much on the money.

Good luck.
I still suggest you call that number I posted earlier and probe him for
information even if you dont buy from him. Radio communication is his business.

regards,

Steve.


Damien

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May 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/2/00
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Damien wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> x-posted to aus.radio.amateur.misc, aus.cars.offroad
>
> I noticed there's been several of these advertised over the last few
> weeks at pretty good prices. Despite a very extensive web search and
> usenet search I found no opinions except that the display often fails.
> Any opinions in regard to competition such as GME TX* and Uniden UH* in
> terms of features and reliability?
>
> All the best,
>
> Damien
Hi All,

Thanks to everyone for clearing the somewhat muddy waters of UHF CB. I
found it very interesting and helpful. Some disagreement but that's the
fun of Usenet. I'm going second hand shopping this weekend ;-)

Damien

andrew barnes

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Same for me. Thanks everyone.

Peter Davidson

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May 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/3/00
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For further reading on the legality of operating commercial two war
radios on CB read:

http://www.aca.gov.au/legal/licence/class/cbrs.htm
http://www.aca.gov.au/publications/info/cbrcl.htm

The second reference contains the section on equipment permitted to be
operated on UHF CB
"UHF (477 MHz) equipment manufactured in Australia, or imported into
Australia after 13
December 1996 should have a label attached referring
to Australia and New Zealand
Standard AS/NZS 4365:1996 which was mandated by the
ACA through the making of
Radiocommunications Standard (UHF CB Radio
Transmitters) No. 1 of 1996, or one of
the following earlier specifications - Ministerial
Standard (MS) 250, RB250, RB234,
DOC234 (up to 5 watts allowed), RB234A, DOC234A,
RB234B or DOC234B; and "

MS 234 was the standard in place when most of your second hand equipment
was manufactured and note the section in parenthesis "(up to 5 watts
allowed)"

PeterD

>
> >
> > It is quite legal to use commercial two way radios on the CB band
> > providing the radios are built so that the OP power is limited to 5 W
>

Camper

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May 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/6/00
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On Wed, 03 May 2000 23:14:18 +1000, Peter Davidson
<pet...@pcug.org.au> wrote:

>For further reading on the legality of operating commercial two war
>radios on CB read:
>
>http://www.aca.gov.au/legal/licence/class/cbrs.htm
>http://www.aca.gov.au/publications/info/cbrcl.htm
>
>The second reference contains the section on equipment permitted to be
>operated on UHF CB
>"UHF (477 MHz) equipment manufactured in Australia, or imported into
>Australia after 13
> December 1996 should have a label attached referring
>to Australia and New Zealand
> Standard AS/NZS 4365:1996 which was mandated by the
>ACA through the making of
> Radiocommunications Standard (UHF CB Radio
>Transmitters) No. 1 of 1996, or one of
> the following earlier specifications - Ministerial
>Standard (MS) 250, RB250, RB234,
> DOC234 (up to 5 watts allowed), RB234A, DOC234A,
>RB234B or DOC234B; and "
>
>MS 234 was the standard in place when most of your second hand equipment
>was manufactured and note the section in parenthesis "(up to 5 watts
>allowed)"

Yep, as long as the Radios aren't modified to operate outside the
manufactures design frequency range. If you get in there and start
rewinding coils because the sensitivity is stuffed etc then you better
make sure it still conforms to MS234...cost more than the radios
worth.

camper


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