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cocking my lovegun
Sep 27, 2005, 4:39:05 AM9/27/05
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Hi.... I recently purchased a vehicle with a toilet paper oil filter.
Though, the cannister was empty there is an website on the filter that
says i can order the paper elements from there. Does anyone know
anything about these types of filters? Do they actually work?
Though, the cannister was empty there is an website on the filter that
says i can order the paper elements from there. Does anyone know
anything about these types of filters? Do they actually work?
Scotty
Sep 27, 2005, 5:01:53 AM9/27/05
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"cocking my lovegun" <geoffh...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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loss he did actually use fresh toilet rolls from the loo supply. I saw em
come out balck as and they never degraded to what I thought that they would.
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cocking my lovegun
Sep 27, 2005, 6:24:10 AM9/27/05
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What i've been reading about them everyone seems to agree that they
really do do the trick. I'm going to see about getting a filter for it
and trying it out. the site is www.by-passfilter.com for those
interested, oh and it's Australian. I read on the American filter site
'Franz" that you can use 'Sott 1000 toilet paper' as an excellent
replacement for the filters they sell. The only thing that concerns me
is if the toilet paper fall to pieces... then i would definately need
all the paper i could get cause that would give me the shits...I might
wait and get what the filter company recommends.
really do do the trick. I'm going to see about getting a filter for it
and trying it out. the site is www.by-passfilter.com for those
interested, oh and it's Australian. I read on the American filter site
'Franz" that you can use 'Sott 1000 toilet paper' as an excellent
replacement for the filters they sell. The only thing that concerns me
is if the toilet paper fall to pieces... then i would definately need
all the paper i could get cause that would give me the shits...I might
wait and get what the filter company recommends.
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cocking my lovegun
Sep 27, 2005, 9:06:56 AM9/27/05
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OK..this has got me intrigued so i went looking around and found this
gem.
Mobil Oil Technical Bulletin #863; "Oil does not wear out, breakdown or
otherwise deteriorate to such an extent that it needs to be changed. It
becomes contaminated with water, acids, carbon particles and sludge.
The engine's oil filter(s) can only remove solid particles above a
certain size. It (they) cannot remove water, acids, carbon particles or
sludge all of which pass through the filter(s) just as readily as the
oil.(quoted from.. http://www.machinecare.com/lube.html)
What i believe 4M are saying is, that because their filters are so good
at filtering these contaminates out, there is very little work for the
additives to do...and what is depleted is topped up when new oil is
added on replacement of the filter element.
Must of hurt Mobil to release a statement like that...especially with
these sorts of filters on the market.
Anyways...I'm going to do some more research..Thanks for your imput
Tony. I'm starting to get right into this (gawd...i need a life)
gem.
Mobil Oil Technical Bulletin #863; "Oil does not wear out, breakdown or
otherwise deteriorate to such an extent that it needs to be changed. It
becomes contaminated with water, acids, carbon particles and sludge.
The engine's oil filter(s) can only remove solid particles above a
certain size. It (they) cannot remove water, acids, carbon particles or
sludge all of which pass through the filter(s) just as readily as the
oil.(quoted from.. http://www.machinecare.com/lube.html)
What i believe 4M are saying is, that because their filters are so good
at filtering these contaminates out, there is very little work for the
additives to do...and what is depleted is topped up when new oil is
added on replacement of the filter element.
Must of hurt Mobil to release a statement like that...especially with
these sorts of filters on the market.
Anyways...I'm going to do some more research..Thanks for your imput
Tony. I'm starting to get right into this (gawd...i need a life)
Rheilly Phoull
Sep 27, 2005, 9:14:22 AM9/27/05
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news:1127826416.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...I had one on an HQ and it sure filtered out some crap. This was using a
toilet roll, which was the deal to save money. Think about it, the oil goes
through it from end to end which is 100mm of filter element. The original
user info came with photos to discern any contaminants like water etc. from
the pattern observed on the end of the filter roll. I would put one on my
vehicle without a second thought if I could get one :-)
toilet roll, which was the deal to save money. Think about it, the oil goes
through it from end to end which is 100mm of filter element. The original
user info came with photos to discern any contaminants like water etc. from
the pattern observed on the end of the filter roll. I would put one on my
vehicle without a second thought if I could get one :-)
--
Regards ......... Rheilly Phoull
cocking my lovegun
Sep 27, 2005, 10:06:14 AM9/27/05
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Hey Rheilly, Like i was saying to Tony... the more i get into reading
about these filters the more i like what i'm reading. I hate to think
of the price of one but apparently it pays for itself in a few oil
changes (200 bucks?). it's just accurred to me....since It'll last
foreva, i plan to take this filter from one car to the next upon
selling the vehicle (might even be a good selling point perhaps).
Actually something else has just come to mind also... since you only
add like a litre everytime you change the dunny roll (5 thousand k's) i
can actually afford to go out and buy some decent oil for a
change..,maybe some of that right fancy city slicker stuff called
'synthetic oil' ;) lol. there web site is www.by-passfilter.com if ya
interested Rheilly.
about these filters the more i like what i'm reading. I hate to think
of the price of one but apparently it pays for itself in a few oil
changes (200 bucks?). it's just accurred to me....since It'll last
foreva, i plan to take this filter from one car to the next upon
selling the vehicle (might even be a good selling point perhaps).
Actually something else has just come to mind also... since you only
add like a litre everytime you change the dunny roll (5 thousand k's) i
can actually afford to go out and buy some decent oil for a
change..,maybe some of that right fancy city slicker stuff called
'synthetic oil' ;) lol. there web site is www.by-passfilter.com if ya
interested Rheilly.
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D Walford
Oct 2, 2005, 3:31:33 AM10/2/05
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cocking my lovegun wrote:
> And how do we know if Bob the Lube Dude runs a 'truthful' site?.
> There's plenty of web sites and forums putting up some of the most
> convincing auguments that 1 micron filtration totally eliminates 100%
> of the water ( the 'bad boy' of oil contamination) keeping the oil
> chemically balanced, 1 micron particles of course( normal full flow
> filters are allowing somewhere between 50 to 90 microns to cycle and
> recycle around the engine) and keeps the oil in your motor 100%
> analytically 100% of the time. I'm convinced enough to give it a whirl
> and see whats what. I've purchased a pre paid oil analysis kit that i
> simply send a sample off after a certain amount of k's for a full
> report. I guess the proof will be in the pudding. Bob doesnt actually
> imply that he commutes each lunchtime between the Lizard Mothership and
> Earth in a black chopper for a green cheese sandwich.... but he
> certainly hasn't proven to me that he doesn't. His full name isn't Bob
> Tail is it??
>
> And how do we know if Bob the Lube Dude runs a 'truthful' site?.
> There's plenty of web sites and forums putting up some of the most
> convincing auguments that 1 micron filtration totally eliminates 100%
> of the water ( the 'bad boy' of oil contamination) keeping the oil
> chemically balanced, 1 micron particles of course( normal full flow
> filters are allowing somewhere between 50 to 90 microns to cycle and
> recycle around the engine) and keeps the oil in your motor 100%
> analytically 100% of the time. I'm convinced enough to give it a whirl
> and see whats what. I've purchased a pre paid oil analysis kit that i
> simply send a sample off after a certain amount of k's for a full
> report. I guess the proof will be in the pudding. Bob doesnt actually
> imply that he commutes each lunchtime between the Lizard Mothership and
> Earth in a black chopper for a green cheese sandwich.... but he
> certainly hasn't proven to me that he doesn't. His full name isn't Bob
> Tail is it??
>
Didn't the car you purchased already have the by pass filter fitted?
If so its costing stuff all to use it so what does it matter if the
claims are only partly true?
Most engines last a long time with regular oil and filter changes so
extra filtration may not make a huge amount of difference to engine life
and the by pass filter may only make a difference if you intend to keep
the vehicle for a very long time.
If you intend to use synthetic oil and go for extended oil change
intervals then the extra filtration and the testing kit is very necessary.
Daryl
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