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Rob Logie

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Feb 8, 2002, 12:06:53 AM2/8/02
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I am currently wiring up a dual battery system in my 4x4. I am try
to get hold of some good quality "Cigarette Lighter" type sockets to
mount in the rear of the vehicle. Preferably, I would like one that
have a cover like the factory auxiliary socket in the back of a lot of
4x4's. The only sockets I can find in shops here are el-cheapo's that
do not have the cover. I have seen a "Hansa" brand one in a catalogue
(Part Num 11152) that looked ideal, but they are not available in
Brisbane (As far as I know !). I want to stick with the "Cigarette
Lighter" type sockets as most 12 Volt accessories use these.

Does anyone have any suggestions where I could source a suitable
socket from ? (Or other ideas how to solve the problem)



Thanks


Rob L

Steve Pickering

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Feb 8, 2002, 12:18:32 AM2/8/02
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I think that Hella sell decent cigarette lighter style sockets so you could
try a Hella retailer like Repco. I also think I saw some in the TJM 4WD
Warehouse - whatever it is now - at Rocklea, Shettleston (?) Street from
memory. I would also consider looking at some of the available power
outlets from Whitworths marine near the gabba, don't think they've got
cigarette style ones but they do have positive locking units with covers and
it is quite easy to replace the plugs on most accessories to suit. I only
have power for my Engel at the back of the car and have the Engel posi-lock
fitting for that which is great 'cos it won't work loose on rough roads,
cigarette style sockets will. I also have a bank of 4 cigarette style
sockets attached to the centre console for running little things like GPS,
video, etc. etc. which you generally want up the front of the car. I have
much heavier wiring running to the back to minimise voltage loss to the
fridge.

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Steve Pickering

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Feb 8, 2002, 12:20:42 AM2/8/02
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Also try calling a few auto-electricians - they might have a catalogue with
some of the sockets you want even if you aren't getting them to install them

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Scott R-C

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Feb 8, 2002, 1:35:04 AM2/8/02
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Good info thanks Steve, as I was after more or less the same thing.
Cheers
SR-C

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Rainbow Warrior

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:13:01 AM2/8/02
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Rob Logie <r...@NOSPAMlogie.tv> wrote in message
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Put 2 sockets in, one cigarette and one proper one if you want to plug a
fridge in, you can get 240v 10A rated house sockets and plugs with round
pins instead of slots or vertical slots, mates have been using them for
fridges for years. Cigarette sockets can't handle the amps of some
equipment.

Pat
Brisbane, Australia

Who needs a locker when you've got secondaries.

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Dave

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Feb 8, 2002, 6:05:55 AM2/8/02
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> Put 2 sockets in, one cigarette and one proper one if you want to plug a
> fridge in, you can get 240v 10A rated house sockets and plugs with round
> pins instead of slots or vertical slots, mates have been using them for
> fridges for years. Cigarette sockets can't handle the amps of some
> equipment.
I seem to remember at a tafe course i went to years ago (and i mean
years ago!) the teacher was talking about household switches, which
could be on the sockets your talking about and DC voltages. I can't
remember what voltage he was talking about (think it was only 12v) but
he hooked DC volts up to the switch and switched it and it blew up!. had
something to do with the AC current alternating. (duh)
so just take care if you use em.
if there's no switches on em i think your safe.

Rainbow Warrior

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Feb 8, 2002, 6:07:17 AM2/8/02
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Dave <i...@te.spam.com> wrote in message
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Yeah switches are only good for half as much DC as AC, I've found them weld
on rather than blow up.

Daryl Walford

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Feb 8, 2002, 6:56:39 AM2/8/02
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I got one with a cover from Autobahn.
I'm in Melton Vic but I don't see why other Autobahns couldn't get them.


Daryl

Rob2

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Feb 8, 2002, 8:45:16 AM2/8/02
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ARB have the things you're after.

Rob

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bristan

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:20:43 PM2/8/02
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Whitworths marine have a good range of these sockets and other auxilliary
12v power items as used in boating

Bristan

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Rob2

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:59:04 AM2/9/02
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The trouble with standard cig lighter sockets (especially the Marlows
cheap & nasties) is that the contacts aren't that flash for a decent
current, and they're not a very secure connection. They're fine for
low current items such as GPS or walkman, but not too good for things
like fridges.

If you can get hold of the latest Farnell catalogue (any electronics
repair shop will have one), have a look on page 312 at the DIN ISO
4165 plugs & sockets. They're the current standard connector for car,
boat & caravan equipment. There are two types of plug - one is the
standard 4165 plug, the other is a "universal" plug which will plug
into either the 4165 socket or a cig lighter socket. The Farnell std
4165 socket comes with a dust & splash proof hinged rubber cover. ARB
also sell a version of the DIN ISO 4165 plug & sockets. Their sockets
come with a hinged metal cover. I'm sure most electrical supply shops
will sell a version of them - try RS Components or even Dick Smith
Electronics.

If you have a look at aftermarket 12V accessories, you'll find that
many of them have the universal plug on them (especially the better
quality stuff).

The Farnell prices are:
$5.10 for the std plug
$9.83 for an 8A unfused universal plug
$10.43 for an 8A fused universal plug
$12.04 for a 16A unfused universal plug
$12.26 for the socket outlet

They also sell a range of various universal plug to socket connectors.

Rob2


Bushy

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:06:01 PM2/9/02
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Use the cheap ones that have heavier contacts and stick in an old wine
bottle cork.

Even gives you an excuse to get on the the piss! Or at least get one
bottle for the missus and a slab for yourself for each socket!

Hope this helps,
Peter

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