Wanting a light sleeping bag
RockyRoad
year with it open lying next to me because its too warm. Also, I have
just downsized my Pack from an 85L Macpac to a 60L Osprey, so I'm keen
to pack smaller when I can.
It has me wondering if I could use a smaller, lighter bag outside of
winter.
I remembered that there was a lighter version of the Neve called the
Pinnacle (both have down only on the top) but Macpac seem to have
dropped all their old bags and have a complete new line - I couldn't
find anything similar to a Pinnacle.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Can you still get a Pinnacle? I sleep
with clothes on - even a fleece jacket - would rather use the clothes i
have with me anyway for warmth at night than have to carry more down.
PS: I read the "down bags for snow thread" but I'm keen to consider
first bags available in Australia so I can check them out.
Thanks.
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Rocky Road - in Oz
RockyRoad
Guess I'll check out the Mont Nitro, though I hope they still make it -
couldn't see anything less that 1000g on the Mont site.
Denny
I have the mont hotwire, which is also a good bag, about 700 grams.
I also recently bought the "Nest" underquilt from
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/
for my hennessy hammock. It's about 560grams, with 1.5 inches loft,
but the down can be shaken to provide about 2.5 inches.
The quilt can also be used as a top quilt with a foot box. The quilt
is so light because of the down fill (750) and the 1.1 oz ripstop
nylon. It's worth a look anyway...
Jeelan
Why dont you look at something like Snugpak??
I have a Snugpak Softie 3 and Softie 6. The softie 3 weighs just under
1000g and the Softie 6 just under 1100g. I'm quite a warm sleeper so
the Softie 6 has been adequate for almost all of my winter
experiences. The Softie 3 is used only in summer.
Mind you if i'm trekking in alpine environment like highlands of
Nepal/Tibet or Chile/Argentina i use a Kathmandu moonraker which
weighs in around 1.7 - 1.8kg
The snugpak range is made in UK and the finish is of fairly high
quality. They are NOT a down bag but their product is almost as fine
as down and certainly a high quality product. THe ones i have are the
military range (they are olive drab with reinforced footwells for
sleeping with boots on) but i'm fairly certain they have a civilian
range that you may be able to pick up.
While i didn't have to buy mine, i've heard that they aren't cheap so
you may have to consider that.
cheers
Jeelan
Roger Caffin
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Can you still get a Pinnacle? I sleep
> with clothes on - even a fleece jacket - would rather use the clothes i
> have with me anyway for warmth at night than have to carry more down.
Check out the UL section of the FAQ.
The Mont Nitro and Hotwire work fine.
Cheers
Roger Caffin
www.bushwalking.org.au/FAQ
David Springthorpe
>The Mont Nitro and Hotwire work fine.
For some only in seasons other than summer.....
DS
David
weighs about 520 grams, and packs down very small. I have used it
camping under the stars on a zero degree celsius night (wearing
thermals) and I was comfortable. I have also used it camping in the
snow during blizzard like conditions. Wearing thermals and a Mont down
jacket (which I carry anyway), I was as snug as a bug in rug. So
unless I plan to climb K2, I will never go back back to bags such as
those commonly sold in outdoor shops here in Australia. Total
overkill.
Dave.
yihang bmc-unsw
buy stuff overseas at tag prices but 40-60% sales are irresistible.
and its checking the tracking numbers. My package is as of now being
checked by custom at the Republic of Korea! im abit copncerned now
actually. this is suppose to be the express service, atleast its ont
he right half of the globe.
I know...........its probably just saying te plane itself is in
customs.
anyway, i suggest you try out backcountrygear.com they have a
wishlist service which informs you when the items u want goes on sale.
resonable shipping rates (EMS mail starts at 17 though) and excellent
service, REI and other places charge 40 bucks in processing,
backcountrygear charges EXACTLY what the postage is, to the dollar.
Very good example of an established online shop
Huxley
Spookiness? Aborted first post ran something like ((compare with Rocky
Road's below)) -
"My Mont Bridabella is great and not that heavy but I spend most the
year with it open on top of me because its too warm. Am also thinking
seriously of downsizing my Pack from an 85L Macpac to a 60L Osprey, so I'm
keen to pack smaller when I can.
Wondering if I could use a smaller, lighter bag outside of winter....."
Well, it seemed a bit spooky to me.
RockyRoad, you *can* find a Pinnacle on Macpac's site here
http://www.macpac.co.nz/products/display/catalogue/do,displayitem-view/mid,74/miid,2338/diid,398/ -
but alas I'm 98% sure this is a redundant page that they've left up, and is
not current product.
I've emailed them to advise yes or no.
Some good suggestions from other posters, though can pretty confidently
advise that the Macpac Firefly is in the same category as the Pinnacle above
and is now unavail.
Mont Nitro also discontinued.
Me - still looking.
Seems like a good tip from yihang re backcountrygear.com *if* buying
overseas - looks an excellent site.
RR, would love to know your experience of switching to the Osprey pack -
wasn't an Aether60 by any chance ?
best
huxley.
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The current Macpac range of sleeping bags is: Escapade (3), Epic (3),
Sanctuary (7) & Latitude (4).
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Peter Hains
> I think you'll find the Pinnacle is no more.
> The current Macpac range of sleeping bags is: Escapade (3), Epic (3),
> Sanctuary (7) & Latitude (4).
>
>
this group does seem to be very MacPac focused. I agree they make good
stuff, but there are other brands on the market. My favourite
Australian sleeping bag manufacturer One Planet has recently released
booster bags that would suit the weight conscious walker. They have 2
bags the Booster 200 and 150. They have either 150 or 200g of 700 loft
white goose down and weigh in at 800g and 850g respectively.
See this link for more info:
http://esvc000694.wic012u.server-web.com/OP%20Web/level2sbags/boost.htm
Regards,
Peter
David Springthorpe
>this group does seem to be very MacPac focused. I agree they make good
>stuff, but there are other brands on the market. My favourite
>Australian sleeping bag manufacturer One Planet has recently released
>booster bags that would suit the weight conscious walker. They have 2
>bags the Booster 200 and 150. They have either 150 or 200g of 700 loft
>white goose down and weigh in at 800g and 850g respectively
Mont are arguably better.....
DS
Andre
> I just saw a good little list in the FAQ.
>
> Guess I'll check out the Mont Nitro, though I hope they still make it -
> couldn't see anything less that 1000g on the Mont site.
Rocky you could have a look at the Fairydown Supernova or the
Supernova mummy at
http://www.fairydown.co.nz/Products/down-sleeping-bags/micro-series.asp#supernova-mummy
if you cant get a Mont nitro, I have the Superlite SL and I love it
(I sleep cold and I dont use a tent)
Andre
Denny
My Mont hotwire uses 250 grams of 750+ down and a taffeta shell. It
weighs 700 grams.
The One Planet bags seem to use less down and a heavier shell...
My homemade ultralight quilt uses 0.8oz nylon for the shell- this
stuff is the lightest fabric you will ever see, but it's strong
enough. Why do companies use heavier fabrics? You don't go bushbashing
in a sleeping bag, you just lie there...
RockyRoad
"Huxley" <ds...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Delayed 1st post to this newsgroup due to spookiness until now.
> Spookiness? Aborted first post ran something like ((compare with Rocky
> Road's below)) -
>
> "My Mont Bridabella is great and not that heavy but I spend most the
> year with it open on top of me because its too warm. Am also thinking
> seriously of downsizing my Pack from an 85L Macpac to a 60L Osprey, so I'm
> keen to pack smaller when I can.
> Wondering if I could use a smaller, lighter bag outside of winter....."
>
> Well, it seemed a bit spooky to me.
Yes that is spooky.
You didn't recently switch to a titanium saucepan did you!?
PS: The Osprey Aether is good. And sold in Aust now.
RockyRoad
>
> RR, would love to know your experience of switching to the Osprey pack -
> wasn't an Aether60 by any chance ?
Yes it was an Aether 60 i got.
Its light and comfortable and fits all I really need. Holds two water
bottles in mesh on the sides which is handy also.
Huxley
>Yes that is spooky.
>You didn't recently switch to a titanium saucepan did you!?
Uh..., considered it!
Only baulked when someone suggested that the titanium is *so* thermally
efficient
that you have a hard time trying to *avoid* burning dinner
...And told myself that investing money in a weight saving of *under* 200 gm
is getting
a bit obssesive. Fine for those that want to go there, but.....
Mind you, I never could understand the old one about saving the pennies and
the
pounds taking care of themselves.
best,
Huxley
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Huxley
last week
(from the 20% off, "no one wants this stuff"
bargain box at Paddy's).
Have just taken it out for a couple of days staggering along Cathedral Range
to
prove my almost suicidal level of unfitness.
I'd agree with your summary - light, comfortable & big enough.
Have a feeling that all that exterior meshing (beloved of Americans) may not
last the distance
vs Antipodean scrub, but time will tell...
Water bottle pockets great I agree, but for the right size bottles only -
using 1 litre
'fat' Nalgene bottles that I have involves agonising contortions to replace
bottle
(without taking pack off).
All in all, happy so far.
Now for that titanium saucepan........
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> Bought this too! (Aether60)
> last week
> (from the 20% off, "no one wants this stuff"
> bargain box at Paddy's).
> Have just taken it out for a couple of days staggering along Cathedral Range
> to
> prove my almost suicidal level of unfitness.
> I'd agree with your summary - light, comfortable & big enough.
> Have a feeling that all that exterior meshing (beloved of Americans) may not
> last the distance
> vs Antipodean scrub, but time will tell...
> Water bottle pockets great I agree, but for the right size bottles only -
> using 1 litre
> 'fat' Nalgene bottles that I have involves agonising contortions to replace
> bottle
After finding out that 1L Nalgene bottles weighed 140g when empty I
switched to 600ml Schweppes lemonaide PET bottles which fit perfectly
and weigh 30g (1.25L are only 40g too).