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Murray

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Nov 21, 2000, 8:11:33 PM11/21/00
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I have been putting together an index and photographic record
of the huts of Namadgi & Kosciuszko national Parks (in the ACT & NSW).
At present it contains pictures of 36 Kosciuszko huts and 15 Namadgi
huts.
The URL is
http://anusf.anu.edu.au/~mld900/huts/

Also on my home page are photographs of native orchids,
and some miscellaneous ones including aboriginal axe grinding grooves
on the Shoalhaven river.

http://anusf.anu.edu.au/~mld900/photos.html

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Murray Dow
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m....@anu.edu.au

Corbett, Eddy [WOLL:4009:EXCH]

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Nov 21, 2000, 10:38:58 PM11/21/00
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Murray wrote:
>
> I have been putting together an index and photographic record
> of the huts of Namadgi & Kosciuszko national Parks (in the ACT & NSW).
> At present it contains pictures of 36 Kosciuszko huts and 15 Namadgi
> huts.
> The URL is http://anusf.anu.edu.au/~mld900/huts/
>

The GR for Schlink Hut (aka the Schlink Hilton) is 243844 (Kosc 1:50,000
topo map). I also have photos of Schlink, Disappointment, Seamans,
Cootapatamba, Mawsons, Tin, Valentines, Whites Rives, and Horse Camp
Huts, interiors and exteriors in most cases. Email me if you are
interested in any of them for your site.

Eddy.

Graeme Cameron

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Nov 22, 2000, 1:47:16 AM11/22/00
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Murray
I've been to a couple you don't have snaps for (ie Horse Gully Hut) which
is quite habitable. Walked through there from the MtClear campground
(about 8km?). There is another hut just off the track about halfway to
Horse gully (I've forgotten the name of it). It is poorly marked on most
maps. It has a rainwater tank that can be relied upon.
Horse Gully Hut, as you could gleen from the name, is in a lovely grassy
little flat. Has a water tank, one room with a fireplace, Parks toilet.
Pretty standard really.
Heard that the bushrats are a liitle active in this area and saw evidence
of that (droppings). I didn't take a picky (of the hut, not the
droppings!) but if you want a snap of the huts you don't yet have, what
format do you want them in (eg a print in the mail, jpeg file,).
Have you tried the Namadgi rangers (at the Visitors Centre) to see if they
can help with this and some other details.
There is some interesting history associated with this area.
I admire what you're doing.
Cheers
Graeme

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Tintin

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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"Murray" <m....@anu.edu.au> wrote in message
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> I have been putting together an index and photographic record
> of the huts of Namadgi & Kosciuszko national Parks (in the ACT & NSW).
> At present it contains pictures of 36 Kosciuszko huts and 15 Namadgi
> huts.
> The URL is
> http://anusf.anu.edu.au/~mld900/huts/

You can also see some huts at:

http://www.ginini.com/wilderness/huts/all.html

David Noble

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Tintin wrote:
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snipped

>
> You can also see some huts at:
>
> http://www.ginini.com/wilderness/huts/all.html

Hmmm... a strange URL....wilderness and huts?

Dave ;-)
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Gra-gra

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:02:17 +1300, "Tintin"
<you.will.always.find.him.in.the.kitchen@parties> wrote:

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>"Murray" <m....@anu.edu.au> wrote in message
>news:3A1B1D...@anu.edu.au...

>> I have been putting together an index and photographic record
>> of the huts of Namadgi & Kosciuszko national Parks (in the ACT & NSW).
>> At present it contains pictures of 36 Kosciuszko huts and 15 Namadgi
>> huts.
>> The URL is
>> http://anusf.anu.edu.au/~mld900/huts/
>

>You can also see some huts at:
>
>http://www.ginini.com/wilderness/huts/all.html

It must have been snowing when you took those photos.

>
>
>
>


Gra-gra

Are you sure? (Thich Nhat Hanh)

Roger Caffin

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Nov 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/23/00
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Murray wrote:
>
> I have been putting together an index and photographic record
> of the huts of Namadgi & Kosciuszko national Parks (in the ACT & NSW).
> At present it contains pictures of 36 Kosciuszko huts and 15 Namadgi
> huts.
> The URL is
> http://anusf.anu.edu.au/~mld900/huts/

I trust you are aware of the KHA: Kosciusko (no z) Huts Association,
and the book "Huts of the High Country"?

Cheers
Roger Caffin

Corbett, Eddy [WOLL:4009:EXCH]

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Nov 23, 2000, 6:28:02 PM11/23/00
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Roger Caffin wrote:
>
> I trust you are aware of the KHA: Kosciusko (no z) Huts Association,
> and the book "Huts of the High Country"?
>

Actually the correct spelling is "Kosciuszko" with the 'z'. The mountain
was named by Paul Strzelecki in 1840 after the Polish national hero
Tadeusz "Kosciuszko". The name was transcribed incorrectly by early
surveyors as "Kosciusko" and that is the spelling that has been taught
in schools, used on maps, etc. In 1996 after the mistake was confirmed
by Poland's surveyor general, the New South Wales Geographical Names
Board renamed the mountain "Kosciuszko".

Having commented on that, Murphy's law states that there will be at
least on spelling mistake in this post :-)

cheers,

Eddy.

Alan Vidler

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Nov 23, 2000, 10:44:46 PM11/23/00
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>> I trust you are aware of the KHA: Kosciusko (no z) Huts Association,
>> and the book "Huts of the High Country"?
>>
>
>Actually the correct spelling is "Kosciuszko" with the 'z'. The mountain
>was named by Paul Strzelecki in 1840 after the Polish national hero
>Tadeusz "Kosciuszko". The name was transcribed incorrectly by early
>surveyors as "Kosciusko" and that is the spelling that has been taught
>in schools, used on maps, etc. In 1996 after the mistake was confirmed
>by Poland's surveyor general, the New South Wales Geographical Names
>Board renamed the mountain "Kosciuszko".

You are correct regarding the name of the mountain.

As far as the name of KHA is concerned you may or may not be, though
the way Roger has worded his posting I suspect you are wrong:

At the time of the renaming of the mountain there was a bunfight in
KHA with words like "political correctness" and "tradition" etc being
thrown around.

I was not interested enough to follow argument and note outcome.
(English like most natural languages has multiply redundant fault
tolerant gramma & spelling. I doubt anyone would fail to recognise
both spellings as referring to same entity)

Main point to emphasise is that currently correct spelling of
mountain's name is irrelevant to currently correct spelling of KHA's
name.

Can anyone active in KHA tell us how name is now spelt?

Cheers,

Alan Vidler
[Inactive KHA member, if haven't lapsed]

Roger Caffin

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Nov 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/24/00
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"Corbett, Eddy [WOLL:4009:EXCH]" wrote:
> Actually the correct spelling is "Kosciuszko" with the 'z'. The mountain
> was named by Paul Strzelecki in 1840 after the Polish national hero
> Tadeusz "Kosciuszko". The name was transcribed incorrectly by early
> surveyors as "Kosciusko"
So what should we call Moscow? Clearly, that name is wrong: that is
not how the Russians spell it. For a start, they use the Cyrillic
alphabet, not the Roman one.
Anyhow, it's named AFTER him. That does NOT mean we have to slavishly
follow all politically correct gyrations of spelling hereafter.
And then consider the pronunciation. I can assure you that our
pronunciation of the name of our mountain sounds nothing like how a
Pole would pronounce the Polish version. So?

> and that is the spelling that has been taught
> in schools, used on maps, etc.

Kosciusko is the name used in Australia for the last 150 years.
All the rest is "political correctness".

> In 1996 after the mistake was confirmed
> by Poland's surveyor general, the New South Wales Geographical Names
> Board renamed the mountain "Kosciuszko".

"Mistake"?
Look, in 1840 you could probably have found half a dozen spelling of
the name - among the small fraction of the population which could
spell or write. And no, I am not having a go at Poland. Exactly the
same applies to the UK.

Maybe we should go around renaming all our mountains and other areas
which have aboriginal names, just because someone thinks we have the
spelling or pronunciation wrong?

Cheers
Roger Caffin
(My turn for a while to stir. Sit down, DS!)

Roger Caffin

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Nov 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/24/00
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Alan Vidler wrote:
<snip re Kosci name>

> As far as the name of KHA is concerned you may or may not be, though
> the way Roger has worded his posting I suspect you are wrong:
>
> Can anyone active in KHA tell us how name is now spelt?

Well, the Newsletter doesn't have a <z> in sight.

Cheers
Roger Caffin

Brian

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Nov 24, 2000, 6:12:39 PM11/24/00
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(snip)

> Kosciusko is the name used in Australia for the last 150 years.
> All the rest is "political correctness".
> Maybe we should go around renaming all our mountains and other areas
> which have aboriginal names, just because someone thinks we have the
> spelling or pronunciation wrong?
>

I have to agree with you Roger.
There are many examples where we have adapted and used foreign words and
names and not stuck to the native spelling (although I can't think of one
right now}.
We Australians love to do what we are told and accept unquestioningly this
sort of action.
Regards
Brian

Tintin

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Nov 24, 2000, 7:08:30 PM11/24/00
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"Corbett, Eddy [WOLL:4009:EXCH]" <ecor...@asiapacificm01.nt.com> wrote in
message news:3A1DA802...@asiapacificm01.nt.com...

> Roger Caffin wrote:
> >
> > I trust you are aware of the KHA: Kosciusko (no z) Huts Association,
> > and the book "Huts of the High Country"?
> >
>
> Actually the correct spelling is "Kosciuszko" with the 'z'. The mountain
> was named by Paul Strzelecki in 1840 after the Polish national hero
> Tadeusz "Kosciuszko". The name was transcribed incorrectly by early
> surveyors as "Kosciusko" and that is the spelling that has been taught
> in schools, used on maps, etc. In 1996 after the mistake was confirmed
> by Poland's surveyor general, the New South Wales Geographical Names
> Board renamed the mountain "Kosciuszko".

Actually, the correct spelling is Kosciusko in the KHA. Not all
organisations decided to updated their spelling.


Paul and Noelene Davis - PROJECT X

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Nov 24, 2000, 7:42:57 PM11/24/00
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> Maybe we should go around renaming all our mountains and other areas....


For what it is worth I believe that the nearby Crackenback (Range) was
originally Crack 'em back, referring to mustering. I think I prefer that -
lets change it.

Cheers Paul

bushywoo

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Nov 24, 2000, 9:56:34 PM11/24/00
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Members of the Kosciusko Huts Association (KHA) have voted unanimously to keep the original spelling
(without a "Z") identical to the spelling the association was incorporated under in 1970.
Discussion to this effect can be seen in the association newsletters.

Frank Pirchmoser (a member)
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In article you wrote:

oRoger Caffin wrote:
o>
o> I trust you are aware of the KHA: Kosciusko (no z) Huts Association,
o> and the book "Huts of the High Country"?
o>
o
oActually the correct spelling is "Kosciuszko" with the 'z'. The mountain
owas named by Paul Strzelecki in 1840 after the Polish national hero
oTadeusz "Kosciuszko". The name was transcribed incorrectly by early
osurveyors as "Kosciusko" and that is the spelling that has been taught
oin schools, used on maps, etc. In 1996 after the mistake was confirmed
oby Poland's surveyor general, the New South Wales Geographical Names
oBoard renamed the mountain "Kosciuszko".
o
oHaving commented on that, Murphy's law states that there will be at
oleast on spelling mistake in this post :-)
o
ocheers,
o
oEddy.

bushywoo

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Nov 24, 2000, 10:00:28 PM11/24/00
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See my other post re spelling of KHA - Kosciusko Huts Association
Frank Pirchmoser (member since 1971)
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In article you wrote:

o
o>> I trust you are aware of the KHA: Kosciusko (no z) Huts Association,
o>> and the book "Huts of the High Country"?
o>>
o>
o>Actually the correct spelling is "Kosciuszko" with the 'z'. The mountain
o>was named by Paul Strzelecki in 1840 after the Polish national hero
o>Tadeusz "Kosciuszko". The name was transcribed incorrectly by early
o>surveyors as "Kosciusko" and that is the spelling that has been taught
o>in schools, used on maps, etc. In 1996 after the mistake was confirmed
o>by Poland's surveyor general, the New South Wales Geographical Names
o>Board renamed the mountain "Kosciuszko".
o
oYou are correct regarding the name of the mountain.
o
oAs far as the name of KHA is concerned you may or may not be, though
othe way Roger has worded his posting I suspect you are wrong:
o
oAt the time of the renaming of the mountain there was a bunfight in
oKHA with words like "political correctness" and "tradition" etc being
othrown around.
o
oI was not interested enough to follow argument and note outcome.
o(English like most natural languages has multiply redundant fault
otolerant gramma & spelling. I doubt anyone would fail to recognise
oboth spellings as referring to same entity)
o
oMain point to emphasise is that currently correct spelling of
omountain's name is irrelevant to currently correct spelling of KHA's
oname.
o
oCan anyone active in KHA tell us how name is now spelt?
o
oCheers,
o
oAlan Vidler
o[Inactive KHA member, if haven't lapsed]
o

Greg Hutchison

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Nov 25, 2000, 1:09:25 AM11/25/00
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Thanks Frank
One member researched things fairly well and even quoted the explorer's
letter that spells K without a Z.
See http://www.tip.net.au/~ghutch/kosci/nozinkos.htm
This may then mean that the NSW GNB may have got it wrong. ie the Aust use
of the spelling was in fact without a z. Note that there are many other
Kosis around the world without a z. Check a search engine.
Greg H

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Roger Caffin

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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Greg Hutchison wrote:
>
> Thanks Frank
> One member researched things fairly well and even quoted the explorer's
> letter that spells K without a Z.
> See http://www.tip.net.au/~ghutch/kosci/nozinkos.htm
> This may then mean that the NSW GNB may have got it wrong. ie the Aust use
> of the spelling was in fact without a z. Note that there are many other
> Kosis around the world without a z. Check a search engine.
Amusing.
As I said, the whole idea of a "correct" spelling is historically
ridiculous. This simply confirms it for this case.

I have found that PC decisions like this often mean that someone new
has taken office and wishes to make his mark on the system. Logic then
has little significance. Ah well. This Australian does NOT do as he is
told.

Cheers
Roger Caffin

Allan Mikkelsen

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Nov 25, 2000, 8:03:26 AM11/25/00
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:23:57 +1100, Roger Caffin <r.ca...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

> Maybe we should go around renaming all our mountains and other areas
> which have aboriginal names, just because someone thinks we have the
> spelling or pronunciation wrong?

The local aboriginal people in the ACT are the Ngunnawal - or at least that
is the spelling they gave the local administration when they decided to
name a suburb. It now seems that some of the locals think the spelling is
wrong. There is perhaps some basis for this, as in another suburb we have
Ngunawal Avenue.

I wonder how long before the PC insist that one or other be changed.

Cheers, Allan

kosciusz...@gmail.com

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Aug 22, 2018, 12:11:10 PM8/22/18
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If you want to find interesting information about Kosciuszko Mountain and its discoverers - Polish explorer P. E. Strzelecki check the material of the website mtkosciuszko.org.au
It's worth checking the entire English version of the page.
Cheers,
Zdzislaw

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