Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Macpac Reflex Rainwear

996 views
Skip to first unread message

Peter Franklin

unread,
Apr 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/10/97
to

Has anyone used Macpac rainparkas made from Reflex? If so how did it
perform and how much of the used in wet conditions such as is often
found in Tasmania and New Zealand.

I notice Macpac are now making raincoats in Gore-Tex as well as in
Reflex. I didn't think they made them in Gore-Tex previously.

Darren Wilkinson

unread,
Apr 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/10/97
to

I have been pretty happy with my reflex jacket. It kept me dry during a solid
day's rain at Lamington Nat. Park. It also seemed to cope with some pretty
heavy rain duing a 6 month backpacking trip in Europe.

The one I have has lots of pockets, a non-fold away hood and rolls up into
quite a large bundle. If I had my time over, I would probably get the one
with fewer pockets and a hood that folds into the collar (it looks like a ski
jacket), but that is with backpacking in mind.


Darren

Darren Wilkinson
D.Wil...@medicine.herston.uq.edu.au

"Life is a problem. Living is solving the problem"
Raymond Feist, 'Silverthorn'

Roger Caffin

unread,
Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
to

Daniel Hayes <dan...@cliffhanger.com> wrote in article
<3352F0...@cliffhanger.com>...
> Macpac used Gore-Tex many years ago, before Gore had ironed out all of
> the problems with delamination etc. At that stage Reflex was a more
> reliable fabric, less returns etc, so Macpac decided to switch.
> Now that Gore has improved the quality of Gore-Tex, Macpac decided to go
> back to it...
Actually, brand recognition also played a major role in the decision. After
all, "everyone" has heard of Gore-Tex, even if some dispute its merits, but
relatively few have heard of Reflex.
--
Roger Caffin
Berrilee Consulting Services P/L
5 Charltons Ck Rd
Berrilee NSW 2159
Australia
All the usual disclaimers apply....

Daniel Hayes

unread,
Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
to

Peter Franklin wrote:
>
> Has anyone used Macpac rainparkas made from Reflex? If so how did it
> perform and how much of the used in wet conditions such as is often
> found in Tasmania and New Zealand.
>
> I notice Macpac are now making raincoats in Gore-Tex as well as in
> Reflex. I didn't think they made them in Gore-Tex previously.

Macpac used Gore-Tex many years ago, before Gore had ironed out all of


the problems with delamination etc. At that stage Reflex was a more
reliable fabric, less returns etc, so Macpac decided to switch.
Now that Gore has improved the quality of Gore-Tex, Macpac decided to go
back to it...

In a laboratory Gore-Tex would perform better, but the reality is that
in the field very few people would ever notice the difference. Reflex
is a lighter weight fabric, not as stiff, and not as noisy to wear.
In wet conditions it would perform very well, it relies less on the
humidity differential than Gore-Tex does, because it is constructed
slightly differently.
Basically: difference minimal. Gore-Tex is a tougher fabric.
dan.
--
*********************************************************************
** live life on the edge, just don't slip... **
*********************************************************************

Mark Hanna

unread,
Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
to

Daniel Hayes <dan...@cliffhanger.com> wrote:

>(snip)


>Macpac used Gore-Tex many years ago, before Gore had ironed out all of
>the problems with delamination etc. At that stage Reflex was a more
>reliable fabric, less returns etc, so Macpac decided to switch.
>Now that Gore has improved the quality of Gore-Tex, Macpac decided to go
>back to it...
>In a laboratory Gore-Tex would perform better, but the reality is that
>in the field very few people would ever notice the difference. Reflex
>is a lighter weight fabric, not as stiff, and not as noisy to wear.
>In wet conditions it would perform very well, it relies less on the
>humidity differential than Gore-Tex does, because it is constructed
>slightly differently.
>Basically: difference minimal. Gore-Tex is a tougher fabric.
>dan.

So how is Reflex made, and from what? Is it microporous or a coating?


Mark
Huonville Tas Oz


Daniel Hayes

unread,
Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
to

Mark Hanna wrote:
>
> Daniel Hayes <dan...@cliffhanger.com> wrote:
>
> >(snip)
>
> So how is Reflex made, and from what? Is it microporous or a coating?
>
> Mark
> Huonville Tas Oz
Reflex is a material - non porous. So it can't clog like dirty Gore-Tex
does. It is not a coating either though. One side of the membrane
attracts water (the inside), the outside repels water. So the water is
pulled out from you to the outside world. (This is a basic explanation,
and not technically complete)
dan'l.

Marcus Loane

unread,
Apr 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/28/97
to Daniel Hayes

Daniel Hayes wrote:

> Reflex is a material - non porous. So it can't clog like dirty Gore-Tex
> does. It is not a coating either though. One side of the membrane
> attracts water (the inside), the outside repels water. So the water is
> pulled out from you to the outside world.

I am interested to know where you got your information about Reflex or
if you just made it up. I was under the impression that it was an
expanded Polyurethane COATING on the inside surface of the outermost
fabric but I could be wrong.
--
888b d888
8888b d8888
88888b.d88888
888Y88888P888 8888b. 888d888 .d8888b 888 888 .d8888b
888 Y888P 888 "88b 888P" d88P" 888 888 88K
888 Y8P 888 .d888888 888 888 888 888 "Y8888b.
888 " 888 888 888 888 Y88b. Y88b 888 X88
888 888 "Y888888 888 "Y8888P "Y88888 88888P'
s217...@cse.unsw.edu.au

0 new messages