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Snapper

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Oct 30, 2008, 10:31:44 PM10/30/08
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It didn't take them long, did it?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/qantas-passengers-plan-compo-cases/2008/10/30/1224956240711.html

I wonder how many of these people were either wandering around the cabin or were
in their seats but not buckled in. This is despite being advised to remain
seated and buckled in unless you need to go to the loo or whatever.

Further, I wonder what basis that they have to make such extraordinary claims,
in one case, $500k.

RT

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Oct 31, 2008, 7:58:28 AM10/31/08
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"Snapper" <snap...@y7mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Win or lose, they are obviously an unacceptably high financial risk and
should no longer be accepted as a passenger on any flight.


Sr20goer

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Oct 31, 2008, 5:19:42 PM10/31/08
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"Snapper" <snap...@y7mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Perhaps I'm on the wrong tack but I reckon the company via the captain takes
on a certain responsibility via the "Fasten Seat Belts" sign.

When it is turned on, there is no doubt in the pax minds.
When turned off, one could argue that the other warning of 'keep seatbelts
on except when wanting to move' is not prominent in the mind of the
reasonable person who, rather, believes that authority has indicated 'all
clear'.

As an aside, has anyone seen or heard from SAM? I want to get him some
corro.
cheers
Brian


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JB

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Oct 31, 2008, 8:43:20 PM10/31/08
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Sr20goer wrote:
>
> Perhaps I'm on the wrong tack but I reckon the company via the captain takes
> on a certain responsibility via the "Fasten Seat Belts" sign.
>
> When it is turned on, there is no doubt in the pax minds.
> When turned off, one could argue that the other warning of 'keep seatbelts
> on except when wanting to move' is not prominent in the mind of the
> reasonable person who, rather, believes that authority has indicated 'all
> clear'.
>

Of course he does. But, as I say in all of my PAs, it is quite possible to
hit some turbulence without any warning at all. We aren't psychic...and
radar doesn't show everything. I never even undo the 5 point harness
unless I need to get out of the seat.

There is no such thing as 'all clear'. Just 'I don't think the risk is
high right now'.


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Sr20goer

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Oct 31, 2008, 8:51:17 PM10/31/08
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"JB" <bXJkZXV4QGludGVybm9kZS5vbi5uZXQ=@aviationusenet.com> wrote in message
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JB
Rest assured I'm in agreement; I am one who never unfastens the seat belt
except to depart after landing or a (rare) STP.

I should have stressed I'm thinking in the classic legal "after the event
apportioning of blame" by the silks and stuffs performing in front of their
scotch drinking ex silk master at the bench :) Not in any practical sense!
cheers
Brian


Sylvia Else

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Oct 31, 2008, 8:58:26 PM10/31/08
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JB wrote:
> I never even undo the 5 point harness
> unless I need to get out of the seat.

I'm glad to hear it. But that seems to imply that it's not a
requirement, which surprises me.

Sylvia.

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Graeme Hogan

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Nov 1, 2008, 4:50:04 PM11/1/08
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"JB" <bXJkZXV4QGludGVybm9kZS5vbi5uZXQ=@aviationusenet.com> wrote in message
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> Sr20goer wrote:
>>
I never even undo the 5 point harness
> unless I need to get out of the seat.
>

And he kids us not
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1200930302032241858GZGtLI


Kwyjibo

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Nov 3, 2008, 1:14:12 AM11/3/08
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"Yagu" <nospam4...@office.net> wrote in message
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> It's an interesting argument in as much as I was on a QF flight from
> Broome on Sunday and had 13a and empty seat and 13c another chappy. My
> neighbour decided after take off, to remove his seat belt despite the
> announcement that for their comfort and safety passengers should leave it
> on.
> I normally loosen it a bit and am quite comfortable with it on, having
> learned my lesson on a Kenya Airways 707 on approach to Nairobi some 30
> years ago.
>
> I suggested, quietly and politely to the gent next to me, that "in light
> of the recent events on a QF Airbus and the Crew's suggestion, "he might
> be well advised to keep the belt on" and demonstrated to him how I had
> mine on.
> He looked at me as if I had just landed from mars and said " Look mate,
> when you pay for my ticket you can tell me how and when to buckle it!"

And you should have replied "look mate, if we hit turbulance and you come
flying towards me I'm going to smash you in the face with some carry on
luggage that will also probably be flying around the cabin. Nothing
personal - Just self defence."

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