Hypoxia! What Hypoxia ?
Pits
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - A Palestinian man managed to stow away
in a wheel well of an airplane flying from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore,
prompting Malaysian officials to order a probe into how he breached
security, reports said Sunday.
Osama R.M. Shublaq stunned the ground crew at Changi Airport when he
fell out from the wheel well of the Singapore Airlines aircraft, a
Boeing 777-200, shortly after it landed late Thursday, The Star, a
Malaysian daily, reported in its online edition.
It said Shublaq was dizzy from a lack of oxygen after the 55-minute
flight, but was otherwise unhurt. Shublaq was detained by Singaporean
police and charged with entering the island illegally.
Malaysian Transport Minister Chan Kong Choy expressed dismay at the
breach of security at Malaysia's main airport.
"I am very unhappy," Chan was quoted by The Star as saying. "Such an
incident should not occur, as the airport area has tight security."
The government has ordered an investigation, Malaysian national news
agency Bernama said. Chan and other transport ministry officials
couldn't be reached for comment Sunday.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hNmUIwCG9V1-w5Geh6iTOVA4FzIAD8S8SJ1G0
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Sylvia Else
Sadly, this incident, and another that recently occurred, are probably
serving to obscure the general rule that people cannot survive such
experiences. Expect to see many more people dying in future misguided
attempts to stow away in wheel wells.
Sylvia.
Pits
Natural selection at work
Mal
No problem if your brainless.
"Craig Welch" <cr...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
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> Pits <spaml...@gmail.com> said:
>
>>It said Shublaq was dizzy from a lack of oxygen after the 55-minute
>>flight, but was otherwise unhurt. Shublaq was detained by Singaporean
>>police and charged with entering the island illegally.
>
> It's worth noting that that sector is often flown at 18,000 ft.
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Gordon Beaman
wrote:
>Pits <spaml...@gmail.com> said:
>
>>It said Shublaq was dizzy from a lack of oxygen after the 55-minute
>>flight, but was otherwise unhurt. Shublaq was detained by Singaporean
>>police and charged with entering the island illegally.
>
>It's worth noting that that sector is often flown at 18,000 ft.
Depending on the leg length it's more likely that he froze to death
than died of hypoxia I'd say...lying still at 18k is no big feat...
Pits
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:50:07 GMT, Craig Welch <cr...@pacific.net.sg>
> wrote:
>
>
> >>It said Shublaq was dizzy from a lack of oxygen after the 55-minute
> >>flight, but was otherwise unhurt. Shublaq was detained by Singaporean
> >>police and charged with entering the island illegally.
>
> >It's worth noting that that sector is often flown at 18,000 ft.
>
> Depending on the leg length it's more likely that he froze to death
> than died of hypoxia I'd say...lying still at 18k is no big feat...
G'Day Gord --the thing is the chap is alive -------- not dead as CW
mentioned it is flown at 18000Feet and given time to top of climb then
descent
and probably a bit of the old hypothermia which until you cark it can
slow your system down and live a tad longer before you cark it (or
fall out of a wheel well and hit your bonce ) Thereby scaring the
daylights out of the groundies who were probably a bit sleepy any way
during the Ramadan fasting bizzo .
Still one lucky chap indeed
Gordon Beaman
I see...I thought that he had died, thanks for info.
Pits
> Pits <spamlis...@gmail.com> said:
>
> >G'Day Gord --the thing is the chap is alive -------- not dead as CW
> >mentioned it is flown at 18000Feet and given time to top of climb then
> >descent
>
> that sector almost weekly for many years) is about 5 minutes.
As did I craig some nice thunderstorms at Certain times Eh -----and
the smog from the Fires about August (yuk)
RMK
>
...and often flown at 28000' and sometimes flown at 33000'.
He was a very lucky stowaway!
Gordon Beaman
wrote:
Damned right!...I doubt that he'd have lasted long at 33 or 28k
either...
Ad absurdum per aspera
A few survive. Several years ago a wheelwell stowaway survived the
trip from Tahiti to LAX, though if memory serves he was in no
condition for a getaway and was sent back (in the cabin this time)
after four days in the hospital.
A total of several dozen people over the postwar years are known to
have stowed away in wheelwells, according to a newspaper article after
they found a dead one at SFO a few months back. He'd come in from
Shanghai nonstop and was probably quite frozen, as had their previous
one, nonstop from Gatwick several years earlier.
In naive statistics it offers about the odds of Russian roulette with
four or five bullets, and the survivors tend to be quite a bit the
worse for wear. Though you're sheltered from the wind and not
exerting yourself, it is otherwise often and very aptly likened to the
summit of Everest -- or worse. You can die directly of that, among
several unpleasant sounding ways to go to your reward in there.
Unconsciousness is a given.
I'm guessing that the few survivors are mostly on shorter flights at
lower altitudes, though some people are just unusually well adapted,
physiologically, to survive such abuse. Probably dressed as warmly
as allowed by their circumstances, and the need to stealthily approach
the plane and climb into it. Youth seems to be a common denominator
in both the ability to make it and the willingness to entertain the
thought.
See for instance
http://www.flightsafety.org/hf/hf_may-jun97.pdf (based on FAA AM96-25)
which, among other interesting things, points out that we may not know
about all of them; perhaps a few survivors (especially with friends
waiting) might make good their escape, and who knows how many of the
fatalities fall to earth or sea unnoticed. Also
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/20/BAGKBR3VPK1.DTL&hw=wheel+well+SFO&sn=011&sc=616
and
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/57676799.html?dids=57676799:57676799&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Aug+8%2C+2000&author=GINA+PICCALO&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&edition=&startpage=4&desc=SOUTHERN+CALIFORNIA+%2F+A+news+summary%3B+Immigration+Officials+Take+Custody+of+Jet+Stowaway
Most are thought, sensibly enough, to be political or economic
refugees who are quite desperate or don't quite understand what
conditions are like up where jets fly, or both.
--Joe
Coop
<jtc...@california.com> wrote:
>
>the plane and climb into it. Youth seems to be a common denominator
>in both the ability to make it and the willingness to entertain the
>thought.
Younger neurones can tolerate oxygen deprivation better- either that,
or they can afford to lose more without obvious damage.
Coop